False flagging: If you can't find a hate movement, make your own

nicemod · 2015-01-09T00:53:56+00:00

Just a sample of the modmail we get.

There's some interesting analysis that could be done here.

Edit: On second thought, the user profile is a public document. It makes for interesting reading: http://www.reddit.com/user/MRAmandatory

Just don't try to doxx the person behind the account, or find any of their other reddit accounts. Attempting to do so would be an insta-ban.

Edit 2: I shouldn't have to say this, because redditors should already know the rules - but don't follow this user into other subreddits and downvote them. The admins will shadowban you for that. Don't even communicate with them. Just observe and learn.

SRSLovesGawker · 2015-01-09T01:23:22+00:00

I find it endlessly fascinating that, despite the countless TV channels, videogames, friends, family, communities online and off, the nigh limitless panopoly of options for interaction and entertainment available at their fingertips, on demand and at a moment's notice... that doing stupid shit like that is their very best choice of something to do.

How unimaginative and incurious must someone be to pick "trolling an online forum" as their prime option for entertainment? Just makes me feel bad for 'em, really. :-/

Vornnash · 2015-01-09T01:53:26+00:00

Good on you mods keeping this place clean of trolls.

Ransom_Stoddard · 2015-01-09T01:50:35+00:00

Liars to the core.

notnotnotfred · 2015-01-09T03:19:42+00:00

this exemplifies the primary reason I'm happy not to be modding this place anymore. Thank you and the other mods for taking on a tough, big job.

MattClark0995 · 2015-01-09T01:20:00+00:00

SRS are a bunch of losers if they are resorting to that in order to give da evil MRAs a bad name. Pathetic

atero · 2015-01-09T05:11:40+00:00

This is fucking hilarious, absolutely nuts those lot.

It defies basic logical principles.

1) Those goddamn MRAs have to be brought down! They're racist and misogynistic!

2) Better find some evidence to prove this claim.

3) Find no evidence.

4) Welp, better create some evidence.

5) Those goddamn MRAs have to be brought down! They're racist and misogynistic!

There comes a point where activism stops and a political agenda begins, and that line has been crossed miles back.

TheSouthernBelle · 2015-01-09T02:52:55+00:00

I think what's funny is that the account never took off. It was a bunch of crazy mixed with some logical comments that got upvotes. If anything this speaks to how great this sub is.

ExiledSenpai · 2015-01-09T04:59:54+00:00

I'd like to remind the people in this thread that the person banned is a troll who gets his/her jollies off by creating conflict. It is possible and likely that this is a lone actor who added in the "SRS" comment simply to do more of what they do best - troll. Everyone here seems to be falling for it too. Do we have any evidence this was part of a coordinated smear campaign? No? Then lets not make assumptions. Aren't we against making assumptions?

Greasier · 2015-01-09T02:13:26+00:00

This could be interpreted as false flagging SRS as well.

Not that I'd ever want to defend them. I'm just saying.

dejour · 2015-01-09T02:15:07+00:00

Did this troll really get thousands of upvotes for comments and submissions?

Gods_Left_Nut · 2015-01-09T05:31:32+00:00

I am pretty proud at how all us MRAs handled all their shit

counter345 · 2015-01-09T09:00:34+00:00

slightly confused, what exactly is SRS?

Nukgci · 2015-01-09T13:29:13+00:00

I don't get it. If we're so bad then why does that user have to put in so much work to make us look bad? :/

mycatatemyface · 2015-01-09T02:40:42+00:00

Why cover their username?

Psy-Kosh · 2015-01-09T02:57:50+00:00

I dearly hope you pass that (uncensored) on to the admins. Especially given intent of ban evasion, etc.

bboven86 · 2015-01-09T04:45:17+00:00

It's hilarious how many people tell me "Of course he's an MRA" after I say that all females are sluts.

Where would they get that impression? Certainly not from false flags, no sir.

mulerider · 2015-01-09T05:24:00+00:00

Good job spotting that!

Bukkake_Monster · 2015-01-09T09:35:35+00:00

I also love how we occasionally get posts like "Let's celebrate Mark Lepine's day" and they get xposted in r/againstsmrm within one minute

anonagent · 2015-01-09T14:05:24+00:00

Good, fuck that user

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2015-01-09T14:18:11+00:00

If it were capable of thought it would realize that the fact that it has to create bigotry to be offended over kinda proves that MR isn't full of bigots.

No one had to use false flags to make the klan look racist or rad fems sexist.

BlackMRA-edtastic · 2015-01-09T19:30:05+00:00

Thank you guys for standing up to the racists. It really means a lot to the PoC MRA's out there defending the white guys from people who think it's cool to ignore their issues and use them as scapegoats. We're all in this together along with the ladies who really stepped up to look out out for the fellas.

Smallpaul · 2015-01-09T04:38:33+00:00

So this person is a troll in the purest sense: they like to stir up trouble and cause anger. And yet when the person says that he or she is from SRS...we take them at their word?

aleksthepster · 2015-01-09T06:35:01+00:00

Slightly unrelated question but why is SRS still allowed by reddit to function? Reddit admins vigorously enforce anti-brigading rules across reddit, but SRS seems to be exempt from this. They regularly directly link threads in other subreddits without using the np tag even though this is generally a bannable offense.

Hopefully I don't get shadowbanned by the mysterious reddit elite for asking.

IgnatiusBSamson · 2015-01-09T02:31:04+00:00

What the fuck.

nicemod · 2015-01-09T04:30:22+00:00

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ghebert001 · 2015-01-09T15:20:24+00:00

Do you have the ability to ban someone's IP from posting to reddit or is that an admin level thing? Considering they admitted they are going to just do it again and again with new accounts, you would think either you mods or the admins would want to prevent shit like that from going on.

U_R_Shazbot · 2015-01-09T15:24:00+00:00

It's pathetic how much time people devote to trying to make someone else look bad. I can just laugh and be happy I have better things to do with my life.

Why can you not fwd this to admin for IP ban? Evading and false flagging are against the rules, no?

Madlibsluver · 2015-01-09T15:41:50+00:00

What's SRS

freemale101 · 2015-01-09T15:34:41+00:00

Well I got banned from /r/Feminism which surprised me b'cz it was so quick. I only posted there once, curious at the outcome. I think I highlighted a glaring irony. But no-one engaged me; or abused me. Just got a lifetime ban. Y'see they hate us from the get-go.

Zosimasie · 2015-01-09T08:40:41+00:00

Banning people from one sub for posting in a different sub is retarded, and should be against reddit's core rules.

Funcuz · 2015-01-09T12:49:25+00:00

I understand and generally agree with the principle of banning this user. However, one thing I've learned is that it's rather pointless for the reasons he/she cited.

I find it's better to simply let them do what they do unimpeded. At least we know who they are and we'll let the community make of them what it will. Just my 2 cents.

PM_ME_UR_PLANTS · 2015-01-09T05:19:13+00:00

I think someone has a crush on nicemod.

Ted8367 · 2015-01-09T06:02:41+00:00

Very educational. I especially liked the "tinfoil hat" comment in response to the accusation that it was a feminist shill account. I've got a theory about tinfoil hats, and this is another piece of evidence in support.

Akesgeroth · 2015-01-09T06:22:00+00:00

Report to admin.

Kelvin · 2015-01-09T08:51:06+00:00

If they need to lie about a group like this to make people hate us, maybe we're not the bad ones eh? At what point are trolls copying trolls, parroting the awful things some other pretenders say?

adventure_dog · 2015-01-09T18:51:38+00:00

thanks for taking the time to tell them why they were banned, I've been banned from hobby subs for no actual reason and have never been able to get a reason why from the mods.

AceGeister · 2015-01-09T19:30:52+00:00

I've openly disagreed with users here and exchanged some words, but I've never been banned solely because I disagree with sine things and got downvoted for it. I can't help but wonder what this user said to be banned.

thisbaseball17 · 2015-01-09T08:57:30+00:00

I don't agree with banning for activity on another subreddit. That's the only reason why I can stay an active member of SRS and the red pill.

SlothyGaming · 2015-01-09T15:08:10+00:00

Late to party, are you going to just ban people because they may partake in offensive things? I frequent /r/ImGoingToHellForThis and several others of similar comedy. Banning people because they're racist or messed up a little bit isn't going to help this sub or movement. Sure, hate mongering is wrong but a simple warning instead of a ban wouldn't make the mod team seem so tyrannical.

Jaykaykaykay · 2015-01-09T15:02:22+00:00

Well theyve got a point, feminism is crushing mens rights like a baws.

modern_rabbit · 2015-01-09T04:44:44+00:00

I seem to remember you refusing to publicly denounce nasty people who claim to be MRAs, what changed?

shoegazer666 · 2015-01-09T08:45:14+00:00

Please stickey this.

nicemod · 2015-01-09T13:07:06+00:00

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tksmase · 2015-01-09T10:42:18+00:00

I personally think about everything with this exact "modmail" is wrong. From restricting a human his/her right to free speech (you don't even allow community to make the choice of ignoring or discussing the content?) to banning someone because of what he said in another sub. Your job is to make /r/mensrights seem clean - do that.

US_Ranger · 2015-01-09T11:22:11+00:00

Meh, makes sense.

1) People are bored and when your life is worthless, trolling the internet full time might seem like a good idea.

2) Half the top comments in every thread on this sub-reddit are "Feminism is retarded, duuuur huuuuur" type shit instead of anything actually relating to a decent point.

Title	False flagging: If you can't find a hate movement, make your own
Author	nicemod
Upvotes	924
Comments	199
Date	January 9, 2015 12:53 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2rt09m/false_flagging_if_you_cant_find_a_hate_movement/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/false-flagging-if-you-cant-find-a-hate-movement.990976 https://theredarchive.com/post/990976

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