Half of Generation Z men ‘think feminism has gone too far’

Radikost · 2020-08-04T21:44:21+00:00

Am gen Z, can confirm.

dontpet · 2020-08-04T23:20:26+00:00

My personal belief as to why feminism comes in waves is because after a few years of feminism, people are generally fed the fuck up with feminism.

The first, second, third, and now fourth (?) waves of feminism have had clearly-defined goals, but when closely examined you see that those goals are usually on the back burner. Every time there is a resurgence of the movement, it inevitably turns out to be nothing more than an outrage machine of huffing, puffing, foot stomping, and shouting. I grew up in the 1990s, and at that time feminism was incredibly unpopular, primarily because people were just sick of the 1970s and 1980s movements. As it is inevitable, they pushed too far, got obnoxious, and turned the public opinion against them. They went back to their safe spaces in academia where they moaned and whined in "academic" journals and classroom discussions.

I think we're hitting the breaking point of feminism again. It is popular--it's everywhere. But its ugly head is rearing again, where it's complaining for the sake of complaining. When they get louder, their message becomes clearer, and the message they're sending now is in no way ambiguous: they loathe men, and they want to say it. It's little surprise that Gen Z men are checking out.

taoofmojo · 2020-08-04T22:07:35+00:00

I think that feminism has taken shit over the goal line.

Pokechu2876 · 2020-08-04T22:23:11+00:00

Well yeah Feminists have protested and tried to shut down mens mental health groups before, they were only trying to help out the boys going through tough times and then feminists got offended over that like what the actual fuck is wrong with them?

MyFatThumb · 2020-08-04T19:58:16+00:00

I don't trust a survey conducted by Hope Not Hate. I think that if an impartial organisation conducted a survey of generation Z that more than 50% of males would consider feminism has gone too far.

Generation Z is very red pilled and they have rebelled against their school propaganda and millennial beliefs.

BlackHawk_1993 · 2020-08-04T22:56:51+00:00

As a 14 year old boy, I whole heartedly agree that feminism has gone wrong, the biggest reason for this so how they have changed the world against me and my peers. I have more to say so if anyone wants to hear my opinion just ask

alphastrike212 · 2020-08-04T19:20:06+00:00

Only half? What a simp gen.

BigRanga · 2020-08-04T19:40:17+00:00

I mean, if the feminist argument is that men have unfair institutional advantages, making it “harder for men to succeed” would be a desired measured effect, would it not?

Charles_Nojinson · 2020-08-05T03:00:17+00:00

Well, yeah.

I once accidentally bumped into someone, and then they immediately tried to call me out for raping them.

We deadass had to go to the cameras to prove I didn't do anything

IronJohnMRA · 2020-08-04T21:08:23+00:00

Now we're getting somewhere.

rabel111 · 2020-08-04T23:43:56+00:00

Half of Gen Z boys and young men think feminism has flaws, and these idiots think that means there's something wrong with Gen Z boys!

It is really hard for feminists to exhibit any insight into their own beliefs and behaviours.

theholdencaulfield_ · 2020-08-05T01:34:35+00:00

The truth is, feminism has definitely gone too far. It's only a matter of time before this bitter truth is accepted by all, especially by women themselves

dragonjock27 · 2020-08-04T22:38:21+00:00

This isn't good news. This means that half of Gen Z men think that feminism hasn't gone too far. And that's fucking terrifying.

prequellord420 · 2020-08-04T23:04:05+00:00

Gen-Z guy here, i think it’s probably more than half

museumsoul · 2020-08-05T03:00:51+00:00

Its no more about feminism, rather its about feminazi.

ZeroCO01 · 2020-08-05T06:25:09+00:00

Millennial here, I think they went to far years ago. I believe in complete equality & when I say that to a feminist, they become very upset to say the least.

JasHanz · 2020-08-05T02:33:06+00:00

Honestly, it's not feminism, it's straight pseudo feminists projecting their anger at their exes etc on the male population at large, and calling it feminism.

Fuck, being a men's rights activist has been gaslighted to mean incel virgin who needs therapy or worse.

Sneakerkeeper123 · 2020-08-05T01:28:26+00:00

Gen x female. We wanted our rights. But you know, the important ones. My mom wasn't allowed a credit card in her name. I went car shopping at 25 and told to come back with my husband or boyfriend or dad because the salesman said he couldn't take me seriously. I wanted to be a paramedic and not get treated differently. I agree we've gone too far in the opposite direction. I hope the work I do with my daughter can help reel it back to equal respect and simple understanding. Also, how are you all holding up lately?

thomasangryatbull · 2020-08-04T22:14:36+00:00

Good should be more than 50 percent

musteatbrainz · 2020-08-04T21:41:27+00:00

And the other half are braindead or lying.

Dr_Papernipples · 2020-08-05T03:29:27+00:00

Idc what generation anyone is from. I think we can all agree, that shit BEEN taken too far.

MagnificentClock · 2020-08-04T23:40:41+00:00

Gen Z gives us hope.

Millennials are fucked up

jonny-p · 2020-08-04T22:39:34+00:00

Sad thing is I love feminism, at least what it used to be. I think it’s fantastic that women (and a lot of men) fought for the genders to be equal. It seems that many modern ‘feminists’ feel that they are owed something extra for past inequalities that they never personally lived through. There are a few areas where women are still at a disadvantage and those should be addressed but it should not be at the expense of men. I can’t stand when I read about girls doing so much better than boys at school for example, that should read ‘schools are failing boys’. If the vocal social media feminists really care about equality maybe take on Saudi Arabia where women actually are treated awfully rather than complaining men take up too much space on the tube or happen to be in their way at the gym. Women should be treated equally but that also means no special treatment.

tryintofly · 2020-08-05T01:15:10+00:00

And nearly all of Millennials and Boomers I would imagine.

OneAttentionPlease · 2020-08-05T08:14:31+00:00

Well what imagine do Gen Z People have of it?

I've been telling People that saying stuff like #kam #killallmen2020 #menincages2020 is antifeminist because it really Harms the Reputation of feminism and therefor the support for it. It turns away potential allies to. So it is Overall bad for Women's Rights.

When I Point it out. I get attacked with stuff like "The men who complain About it are the reason why we say it. - Don't be so sensitive - go cry about it - men have been doing the same for ages (two wrongs don't make a Right)" which is just such a stupid fallacy.

FakinUpCountryDegen · 2020-08-05T11:51:29+00:00

It's unfortunate that the other half were born blind and retarded.

LionHamster · 2020-08-04T22:11:31+00:00

And half just want to get laid

2020-08-04T22:39:19+00:00

I don't think this is really big news tbh half of the world does alot of things but you gotta remember the other half probably thinks the opposite.

Mikee14111 · 2020-08-05T00:52:40+00:00

Also can confirm

StrayPen13 · 2020-08-05T04:07:21+00:00

Not sure whether 1997 counts as millennial or gen Z or what, but hell yeah.

slidez_7000 · 2020-08-05T09:02:34+00:00

The issue comes hand in hand with identity politics. When you promote the interests of one subgroup, there is a point at which that will infringe on the interests of another. This is inevitable.

You see it all the time in mini squabbles between LGBTQ+ subgroups.

The trick is to find common ground where men's issues and women's issues can work together to bridge the gap and make it less acrimonious on the uncommon issues.

The problem with that is that misogyny and misandry is both rampant on either side and wrongly identified to shut down opponents and allows the accuser to blatantly ignore anything they don't like. It's a tough problem to solve and until people stop hurling abuse at anyone who doesn't agree, it will not be solved.

RubeNation · 2020-08-05T14:38:46+00:00

Only half? we're F*Cked

G18Curse · 2020-08-05T14:43:57+00:00

Forget just gen Z, millennials also think its too far.

AhsanSadaqat · 2020-08-05T16:11:54+00:00

Gen Z here. Can confirm.

derk702 · 2020-08-04T23:22:31+00:00

So glad gen Z guys are manning up, unlike many leftist millennial that gave feminists this power in the first place

Carlen67 · 2020-08-05T09:57:43+00:00

That's because the "feminist" activists has zero fucking clue what feminism is. They think hating men is feminism.

Feminism is a range of social movements, political movements, and ideologies that aim to define, establish, and achieve the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes. - Wikipedia

EQUALITY of the sexes. Not fucking "men are evil". Too bad the Karen Google Acadamy didn't include Wikipedia...

AceOfWildCards · 2020-08-05T00:05:07+00:00

Millennial here can confirm

kingjohn1919 · 2020-08-05T00:42:35+00:00

The real question is, who is letting the feminazi's run wild?

splagel · 2020-08-04T22:42:13+00:00

But they are afraid to push back because they are such pussies.

CertainCrow1 · 2020-08-05T01:30:22+00:00

The other half are white knights hoping she will take notice and get out of the friend zone

Redhood616 · 2020-08-05T03:42:46+00:00

Only half??

Neveah_Hope_Dreams · 2020-08-05T04:06:20+00:00

It's great to see that my generation are more open and has criticism for it.

MoistAssGamer · 2020-08-05T04:07:31+00:00

Based gen z.

2020-08-05T04:55:45+00:00

Also gen Z can confirm

psilorder · 2020-08-05T05:26:07+00:00

Unfortunately only "Half of generation Z men" or "31% of generation z".

pheuq · 2020-08-05T05:51:09+00:00

Also gen z can comfirm

Kontonkun · 2020-08-05T06:12:45+00:00

So only one quarter of Gen Z 'think feminism has gone too far'.

malemanjul1 · 2020-08-05T06:28:12+00:00

only half?

nishabs345 · 2020-08-05T07:17:01+00:00

Will 1996 born classify as gen z?

ikeabreakfast13569 · 2020-08-05T07:45:03+00:00

Explain what "too far" is

vaevictus75 · 2020-08-05T08:57:36+00:00

Half?

ConnorGracie · 2020-08-05T09:29:46+00:00

only half? There is work to be done.

painful-existance · 2020-08-05T09:33:03+00:00

Gen Z, can confirm

Cantkeepup123 · 2020-08-05T09:54:35+00:00

Only half? Would be all if we had respected ourselves

Shrimpipimp · 2020-08-05T09:56:04+00:00

It didn't go to far, it went in the wrong direction. The attention needs to shift from western women to women in third world countries.

SchrodingersRapist · 2020-08-05T10:42:33+00:00

Only half? Thats disappointing...

2020-08-05T11:14:36+00:00

Half of Gen Z men are right.

Roary93 · 2020-08-05T11:57:38+00:00

Maybe because it has?

Ralthooor · 2020-08-05T12:29:07+00:00

I think these Generation titles are gone too fucking far.

smith_72 · 2020-08-05T12:58:28+00:00

What's the year range of Gen z? I can never find a real answer

OneBadBoi · 2020-08-05T13:16:50+00:00

Based.

yxzerl · 2020-08-05T14:13:03+00:00

Which ages are gen z?

Gabrielbackstreet · 2020-08-05T14:23:13+00:00

weaponized_seal · 2020-08-05T14:29:56+00:00

As Gen Z, I can confirm

Maann1 · 2020-08-05T15:33:23+00:00

Am gen z(i think), can confirm

a_fricking_cunt · 2020-08-05T15:35:10+00:00

Well when you aren't able to do anything its the normal outcome (im Gen Z)

SnowySupreme · 2020-08-06T02:21:19+00:00

Its mainly the radical feminist that ruin that movement

Kythamis · 2020-08-06T08:13:03+00:00

Gen Z here. They really need to be a lot more carful on how they condition the youth in attempts to change the culture. They should honestly be doing tests, samples and trials like drug companies before introducing some possibly contradictory societal rules that leave half the population in a state of agonizing anomie.

For example, I was basically raised to think initiating flirting = sexual harassment (which legally it pretty much is.) Only when women advance is it ok to reciprocate flirting (sexist) but in practice women almost never initiate because they’ve been raised to expect men to, (or maybe I’m just unattractive, but that raises the question, what do unnatracrive people do?).

The media’s also drilled it in to be afraid of approaching women since they are depicted as being constantly being approached, and all the men approaching them as ass holes. I have to fight a stereotype threat to prove myself, which combined with the legal considerations is just way to much unnecessary pressure for simply walking up to and talking to a girl I’m interested in (let alone the typical anxieties of rejection).

Anyways incel because school system broke.

gaynessintheanjs · 2020-08-07T04:04:53+00:00

The hippies won and now they are the man you die a hero or live long enough to become the villen

lompattaja · 2020-08-07T04:20:13+00:00

Confirm

2020-08-10T17:42:43+00:00

I'm a gen-Z girl, also a feminist...but what happens to me when I bring up this issue to my feminist peers?

I get blamed of "internalized misogyny"

Yes men and women both have issues and problems of their own...but trying to cause men more issues is not the solution to equality.

But no, I'm just an "internalized misogynist" because I believe in equality.

Radical feminism has turned more and more into a cult. But not all feminists are like the radicals. Its because of them that feminism gets shamed.

vnnqua · 2020-08-12T05:01:06+00:00

haha. funny how they are males.

BalticProle · 2020-08-18T12:58:01+00:00

Gen Z, cannot confirm

2020-10-01T22:41:57+00:00

I'm a millennial woman, and most of my friends agree

possumwithtaser · 2021-01-08T07:56:10+00:00

Gen Z is based and it's fucking beautiful

sikwidit05 · 2020-08-05T00:00:57+00:00

Also confirm, can gen Z

facemoosh · 2020-08-05T00:09:51+00:00

Sure has.

SilverMarsupial · 2020-08-05T04:59:28+00:00

Hopefully "gone too far" will eventually lead them to "was shit right from the start."

epicness9000000 · 2020-08-05T09:09:51+00:00

yeah but half of gen z boys also like anime so we can’t be too sure

dorballom09 · 2020-08-05T10:41:04+00:00

Sometimes I feel weird. How does it feel knowing that we are fighting a losing battle. Feminism and other extremists will only get more popular and powerful over time. And even though we know how bad and dangerous it is, how it is destroying our society and values, we cant do anything against it. Our attempts are insignificant.

Lutrina · 2020-08-05T02:39:12+00:00

It’s because a lot of us have the wrong definition of feminism.

It’s not some ideology worshipped by psychopathic women cult believing they are the superior gender, though maybe .1% of feminists are actually like this. In reality, it’s literally just believing women should have the same rights as men.

Edit: before anyone sees this comment, let me clarify. I’m not saying that feminists going too far (which certainly happens) is just women trying to be “equal.” The point of my comment was that the actual definition of feminism is the belief that men and women are equal human beings.

Edit 2: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism

voxelexe · 2020-08-04T23:44:05+00:00

Who upvotes this shit? Get tf out of my feed lol.

derk702 · 2020-08-05T08:05:41+00:00

Holy shit this pity party subreddit still exist!?

rednut2 · 2020-08-05T07:43:07+00:00

Thought I’d find some new information here, turns out it’s just a bunch of bitter virgins. Shame.

AndrewFArtist · 2020-08-05T07:07:58+00:00

Wow, a lot of 13 year olds already practicing to become bitter 40 year olds on this sub. Future success stories all round.

The3liGator · 2020-08-04T20:50:37+00:00

I think "too far" is a stupid metric as that implies there is too much equality, when it is better to say whether or not it is adequately dealing with issues

goosentunes1234 · 2020-08-04T23:58:49+00:00

"Of the 2,076 participants, 49 per cent stated that their belief that it is a more dangerous time to be a woman than a man in Britain today." Title of the article should be: gen z boys mad they cant oppress women like their fathers could.

robert-5252 · 2020-08-04T21:32:59+00:00

I’m sure many people in the 60s, and 70s also thought that the civil rights movement had gone too far allowing people of color equal rights.....

ironmans_brother · 2020-08-04T22:18:50+00:00

Let me guess: the male half?

GyrosSnazzyJazzBand · 2020-08-05T05:09:12+00:00

From someone who's Gen Z I gotta disagree. Its judt the minority radicals who made femism look bad to the public. But

nunyour_business · 2020-08-05T00:40:02+00:00

That's what happens when you discover "Ben Shapiro destroys blue haired feminist with facts over feelings compilation" when your 14 and slowly get indoctrinated because nobody thought to have the conversation with you about minoritys and discrimination when you were younger

Billzilla54 · 2020-08-05T02:37:22+00:00

How the fuck did a men’s rights subreddit make it to the front page? Y’all are sad

Peeholepeter · 2020-08-04T22:29:03+00:00

How has it gone too far?

Title	Half of Generation Z men ‘think feminism has gone too far’
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Date	August 4, 2020 7:01 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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