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Manspreading

Chucklebuck

June 17, 2017
9399 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Manspreading
Author

Chucklebuck

Upvotes 9399
Comments 466
Date June 17, 2017 6:19 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6huxd7/manspreading/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/manspreading.920189
https://theredarchive.com/post/920189
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Comments

[–]Peter_File 1689 points1690 points1691 points 9 years ago (116 children) | Copy Link

Apparently this is called "shebagging"

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 671 points672 points673 points 9 years ago (71 children) | Copy Link

It's difficult to tell from the perspective of the picture, but she's also using her entire leg to take up all the space between the seats. You can see her shoe just about touching my jeans.

[–]FisterRobotOh 125 points126 points127 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Why does she think she can just get in your car and do this?

[–][deleted] 163 points164 points165 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's a woman and that means she's oppressed, so she's fighting back, duh.

[–]baerz 29 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or maybe she doesn't give a shit about manspreading or shebagging

[–]PIG_CUNT 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Your joke went over a lot of people's heads, haha

[–]FisterRobotOh -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for catching my drift

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah unfortunately your choice of words fails because many places refer to train carriages as 'cars'.

It wasn't that it was 'over people's heads'.

Its that it just didn't work.

[–]FisterRobotOh 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which explains why so many people down voted it. Thank you for clarifying this for me.

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I say that as a British citizen, even though its in America where this is more common. But even I knew that... No offense, just saying. And I think generally there's more USA users than others here.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wut

[–]daten-shi 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a bus or a train, not a car.

[–]PIG_CUNT 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for clearing that up for him.

[–]tetroxid -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

car

It is called "train"

[–]OliveBoobs 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sections of trains are called cars.

[–]tetroxid -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

..and they don't belong to any one passenger

[–]OliveBoobs 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well..... I believe it was intended as a joke.

[–]tetroxid 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh. Now I understand.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Rub your knee against her foot - then she'll fucking move.

[–]fortyfiveACP 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Did that once and she uncrossed them and put them between mine. I wasn't sure what to do at that point, so I pretended like I didn't notice.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Trap her feet between yours - then it becomes a real struggle!

[–]fortyfiveACP 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Further background: As you can see from the pic her shin/foot/knee are all very close to my groin at that point. It was like reverse manspreading. She was mid twenties and cute. When I looked up from my phone she smirked; she knew what she was doing. I'm married and I was with my wife who is rather jealous anyway, so I just pretended I didn't notice. This is what actually caused me to learn about the term in the first place. I shit you not, while this girl is two inches away from playing footsie with my balls I looked up "train etiquette" on my phone and an article on Manspreading came up. I was kind of offended at the term/article as I was simply sitting in a comfortable manner, I wasn't even all that spread out! For what it's worth I don't think the girl was pissed and she was making a power play. I think she just saw an opportunity to try and get a 'rise' out of someone.

[–]rigatron1 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, maybe she was trying to be flirtatious or something?

[–]lakerswiz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you say something lmao

[+]chownowbowwow -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Omg ! You poor thing how did you survive?

[+]etherealembryo -62 points-61 points-60 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Was she hot?

[+]Dong_World_Order -27 points-26 points-25 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yeah if you have fat fucking legs that is going to happen

[+]sunxnes points 9 years ago* [recovered] (37 children) | Copy Link

And you were too pussy to say something?

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 190 points191 points192 points 9 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

I was already sat down. If I'd needed a seat, I'd have asked her to move her stuff.

[+]Subalpine points 9 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

so then what's the issue here? if there were enough seats to go around, why shouldn't people sit as comfortable as they want until there is reason not to?

[–]Newyauchcity 42 points43 points44 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There's no issue here. There never was any issue. Not when she or most other women did it, and not when most men had the audacity to encroach the area beyond their seating parameter. People just love to cry is all.

On that 1 in 10000 chance that you encounter some person doing this on crowded transportation at someone else's expense, they aren't being a pigheaded guy or a feminazi women, they've just being an unreasonable asshole. No need to make this about the sex of the person, they are an asshole and every reasonable person on the planet knows this.

[+]Subalpine points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

exactly. The woman wasn't making this a gender issue, we have no indication that the woman with the nike bag is being a hypocrite, because we have no evidence she is an outspoken believer in 'manspreading'.

[–]TheHammerHasLanded 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you own a pair of moon shoes, cause those are some serious leaps you got going there.

[–]Jah_Ith_Ber 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because OP was already seated doesn't mean there are enough seats to go around. Others could have been standing.

[+]sunxnes points 9 years ago* [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link

But it looks like your legs are completely on the right side of the seat, meaning you couldn't even sit properly. What's wrong with asking her if she can stop being a cunt so you can sit properly?

[–]_zxionix_ 50 points51 points52 points 9 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

What fucken legs?

Edit: So sorry for being agro. I now see the jeans, it was very small so I couldn't see it. Sorry once again.

[+]sunxnes points 9 years ago* [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link

His leg is right there in the shot

[–]Natsuzaki 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Do you really think that shoe on the left side is his? You think he laid down to the right to take this photo?

[–]itoucheditforacookie 29 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, his leg is under the paper. Light blue denim

[–]Natsuzaki 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My bad, I recognize my mistake.

[–]autumnwolf27 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why are comments negative? I agree with you.

[–]TheVineyard00 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Here's my guess: there's a "Nazi ID" RES tag list that includes everyone who's ever used /r/The_Donald. Sunxnes and I are both on it (which is funny because I haven't been in that sub in months) and often get followed around. Once we get to like -2 everyone else piles on.

Sad that people do this with their lives, but whatever.

[–]autumnwolf27 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Damn..that's brutal. It hurts a lot. I feel you bro. Yeah crowd mentality can blind us from reason. Ego is something we must keep an eye on. Anyone who's used the sub .. wow.. in Trump's words: it's a witch Hunt !(disclaimer: I don't support Trump)

[–]TheVineyard00 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the best part, I've never supported him. I've defended him against idiots who call him Hitler Reincarnate, but that's about it. It is absolutely a witch hunt.

[–]spclneeds 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because reddit

[–]HuntTheHunter12 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya I saw that and got a little ticked.

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points74 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Alternatively, Ma'amspreading.

[–]mathyu1010 38 points39 points40 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

m'spready.

[–]MajesticStallionJean 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The name's m'spready..

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was bagspreading.

[–]reaper88911 151 points152 points153 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My first thought was bitch bagging.. i like yours more.. lol

[–]RedditIsOverMan 114 points115 points116 points 9 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Are we really doing this? Is this not exactly the kind of thing we get upset with feminists for doing?

[–]HollaPenors 103 points104 points105 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

It's about calling out the hypocrisy.

[–]lanspread 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yes but by calling this out we are ourselves being hypocrites.

[+]tchollinginthedeep points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Unnecessarily taking up two seats is always cuntish when you only pay for one. I'm not sure this is what feminists are getting at though.

[–]lanspread -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well then spreading your legs too far is cuntish. either both are cuntish or both are not a big deal. I'm of the opinion that they are not a big deal, but it seems many people think they can cherry-pick what is not a big deal and what is "cuntish".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's what I just said? It's always cuntish

[–]lanspread -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well then i'm sure many many people here would disagree when you say that "manspreading" is a bad thing to do.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends on the context. If we're talking taking up space you didn't pay for of course it is. But if it should only be about something in the vein of "look how patriarchal he is", that would be just bollocks.

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Calling out hypocrisy is hypocrisy? Erm.... Think you need a dictionary.

[–]lanspread 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, but saying that it's wrong to photograph strangers in order to police how they sit and then going and doing exactly that is hypocrisy. If it's wrong for them to do it then it's wrong for us to do it, even if it is to point out hypocrisy. And saying it's ok to be a hypocrite when you are pointing out hypocrisy is double hypocrisy.

[–]Rethgil -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh dear.

No. It isn't. Because it was never about taking a photo or not and I find it hard to believe you aren't aware of that.

[–]lanspread 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh christ, cut the condescension. you really are just like the people you hate.

[–]TheLegionnaire 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're acting like all women are feminists. Maybe she had a rough day and was giving no fucks, or maybe she's rude. Either way you don't know if she cares about manspreading; most women think it's a stupid concept too.

If she were obviously a feminist I'd call it hypocrisy, otherwise it's just stooping to feminist levels of assumption.

[–]LadyVimes 40 points41 points42 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Well, if feminists want to bitch and claim oppression about men spreading their legs because it takes up room then they need to ensure they are not taking up two seats.

[–]VannaBlight 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So a picture of legs + a purse = feminism to you?

"Are we really doing this? Is this not exactly the kind of thing we get upset with feminists for doing?"

[–]MordorsFinest 29 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Found a feminist mole.

We aren't the ones telling women to shut up and keep their knees together. They're telling us to do that. The only way to break through their cognitive dissonance is to ensure that their fascist agenda is imposed on them. Upon realising their error they may drop it just as they dropped the whole 'heterosexual sex is rape' angle from the 80s

[–]EduBA 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

heterosexual sex is rape

The no so pretty mother of this nonsense.

[–]WikiTextBot 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Andrea Dworkin

Andrea Rita Dworkin (September 26, 1946 – April 9, 2005) was an American radical feminist and writer best known for her criticism of pornography, which she argued was linked to rape and other forms of violence against women. Her views were widely criticized by liberal feminists and others. At the same time, she maintained a dialogue with political conservatives and wrote a topically-related book, Right-Wing Women. After suffering abuse from her first husband, she was introduced to radical feminist literature and began writing Woman Hating. Coming to New York, she became an activist on several issues and a writer, eventually publishing 10 books on feminism.


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[–]VannaBlight 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are such a fearful person i feel so bad for you.

[+]_Person_ -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Just a heads up, you're dangerously close to getting posted on r/cringepics and the like

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah no, you need to look at the guardian article about manspreading and the facebook comments on it. Majority of comments were about it being a societal rape apologetic behaviour. So yeah, cringepics, but not for the reason you think.

[–]_Person_ -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You guys need to get outside more. The number of women who actually believe that stuff is very small. I go to a very liberal university full of feminists and in my time here I've only come in contact with maybe 1 or 2 women who are that extreme, but none that would actually call you out in public for it.

Edit: This picture is retarded tho. We can't see the rest of the seats, there might be a ton of empty seats. And even if there aren't, weird guys will sit next to girls all the time on busses and grope them and shit. If I were a girl I could definitely see how becoming an "asshole" by taking up the seat next to me so freaks wouldn't constantly hit on me really wouldn't make me feel bad.

Like I said, get outside more and stop whining about every fucking thing.

[–]MordorsFinest 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fuck do I care? Go ahead and link me there if you want.

[–]Game_of_Jobrones 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But "all heterosexual sex is rape" was a totally mainstream feminist position!

[–]whyalwaysm3 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this is a bit pathetic. I also suspect OP is being dishonest hence why we don't see any orher seats. My guess is there were other seats open that's why she placed her bag there, it doesn't look busy. Having lived in NJ/NYC if it was busy there would be people standing in the picture crammed together.

Not to mention what you said, isn't this what feminists do? Create drama out of nothing. I don't want to be a part of that and I hope this isn't the direction this sub is taking.

We are men, we shouldn't whine over little petty things!

[–]TUKINDZ 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the point of the post isn't to complain that this woman was "bagspreading" or whatever (pretty sure most men/people don't care), but it's to poke fun at the absurdity and the double standard of the concept of manspreading being such a gendered issue.

Its amazing that such a ridiculous concept has somehow gained the traction it has.

[–]speedisavirus 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet, when "muh manspreading" there are almost always open seats so I don't understand what you are getting at.

[–]HiredMind 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I prefer "Hagspreading".

[–]heard_enough_crap 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

cunt splaying

[–]Kevin-96-AT 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i'm sure i heard that one before...oh no i think that was the tea one

[–]WolfyCat 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And so it shall be.

[–]photojoe 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nesting?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's called a cunt

[–]winterjam010 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bagspreading?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I though about womansbagging, but that has a nicer tone

[–]Knotknewtooreaddit -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Vaggbaggin

[–]Literally_A_Shill -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And apparently it's one of the biggest Men's Rights issues around these days.

[–][deleted] 626 points627 points628 points 9 years ago (69 children) | Copy Link

The fact that we have to have this kind of discussin 2017 is the main problem I have with this cultural / gender clash.

If a dude wants to sit with his legs somewhat apart, he should be allowed unless some chick wants to sit next to him, then he would close his legs.

If some chick wants to put her bag on a seat so that she is more comfortable, that's fine, so long as someone else isn't going to try to sit there. If asked, I'm sure she would move her bag.

Just ridiculous to me.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 224 points225 points226 points 9 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link

That's our whole point, alot of the women don't ask us to move and just rant on blogs about how we are oppressing them by sitting.

[–]unbuttoned 124 points125 points126 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

We could ignore the nonsense?

[–]Gandalfonk 60 points61 points62 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you ignore it than it will fester..

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points61 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure not ignoring it and taking screenshots of random teenage girls complaining on Tumblr and posting them all over Reddit is how it festered to begin with.

[–]ibbignerd 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes! We should fight back! We should complain about them!!!

/s

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's seeped into national newspapers though (well, the guardian)

[–]RanaktheGreen 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same way they ignore how we sit?

[–]l3dg3r 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Surprisingly no. Ignoring the nonsense is what got us in to this mess to begin with. These people are actually successfully getting laws passed to control this kind of behaviour. It's pretty fucked up that they actually are being taken seriously/obliged by law makers. The truth is that people in position of power actually hold these corrupt views and cause this ridiculousness​ because they aren't being challenged by their peers.

[+]b_alliterate points 9 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

These people are actually successfully getting laws passed to control this kind of behaviour.

Such as? Any examples?

[+]Inerthal points 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

In Madrid, they've banned "manspreading"

http://nypost.com/2017/06/08/madrid-bans-manspreading-on-all-public-transit-services/

[+]b_alliterate points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

In response, the EMT released a statement announcing the new signage this week. “The new information icon indicates the prohibition of taking a seating position that bothers other people,” it reads.

“It’s to remind transport users to maintain civic responsibility and respect the personal space of everyone on board.”

I find nothing objectionable here. Moreover, it seems just as easy to amend the law to highlight purses, too.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, sure. Any time now they'll extend the law appropriately to include women.

Anytime now.

crickets

[–]Meyright 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/28/manspreading-arrest-broken-windows-policing_n_7462944.html

[–]l3dg3r 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bill C16 of the Ontario human rights code. That one is particularly interesting. On campus, there's mandatory consent training which I find somewhat derogatory. There's implicit bias training, I think that's what it's called. It's basically that you don't know that you are racist but you are so you get to go to mandatory training held by some hack which doesn't have a firm grasp on the human psyche. It's people in various organizations, some more than others, such as campuses, being told what to think, not how to think. That's a problem.

[–]TerraOrdinem 35 points36 points37 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

OP didn't ask her to move and is ranting about it in an online forum, too.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

He isn't ranting, he pointed out women take up seats to.

[–]TerraOrdinem 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Then surely those women are just pointing out that men take up seats?

[–]AttilaTheBuns 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

In some cases sure, but I have never heard a man say that he intentionally takes up seats when women board the bus/train to "fight the matriarchy". I have heard some women say that they do the reverse of that though.

[+]TerraOrdinem points 9 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

https://np.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6huxd7/manspreading/dj1hwpj

[–]AttilaTheBuns 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Looks like an obvious joke to me, seeing as how the first comment says "Sit in her lap!"

[+]TerraOrdinem points 9 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

How are you so sure that those women aren't joking?

[–]AttilaTheBuns 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Because most jokes don't become chants at protests.

[–]lolinokami 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why did you post an NP link when it's literally linking to this post that we're participating on.

[–]freudianGrip 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Isn't that what OP is currently doing and you're participating in?

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does posting a picture count as a rant?

[–]MusicTheoryIsHard 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Lol, a very small whiney minority rants about that shit. You guys are often the male version of them. I support you're core message, but 90% of your front page level posts are just bashing feminism.

[–]PIG_CUNT 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Your last sentence is incorrect. 90% of the front page level posts are complaining about women being given more leniency than men, or about hypocrisy by women. But not bashing feminism.

Nowhere in this sub do I see people advocating that women shouldn't have equal rights or opportunities. I do see people advocating for men to have equal rights and opportunities as women.

"What? But I thought men had more rights, and women were behind!!"

Nope.

Women have had more rights under the law than men, since 1974 (or earlier, depending on whether you think the ECOA and/or Corning case count). Look it up.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

The subreddit doesn't reflect the actual movement because of the nature of the internet and more specifically Reddit. I downvote posts that aren't constructive but I feel like this post is constructive because it documents hypocrisy.

[–]TheLonelyPotato666 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We don't see anything in the picture. This is fine if nobody wanted to sit next to her and there were other empty seats

[–]UsernameAttempt 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

This post would only document hypocrisy if you know for a fact that this woman also complains about 'manspreading' online. Otherwise you're just taking the actions of very few and projecting them on an entire gender.

[–]livingdead191 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Which is what women do to men all the time. It's not a "few" either. It's the majority.

[–]Aloramother 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you honestly not the the hypocrisy in this comment?

To blatantly blanket state that the majority of women make blanket statements about men.

[–]livingdead191 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Irony doesn't make something incorrect.

[–]Aloramother -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I didn't call it irony I called it hypocrisy.

"The behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do "

[–]livingdead191 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's wildly important to be able to categorize and generalize, accurately. Now, as women tend to carry large, expensive bags everywhere they go, it stands to reason that they'd use additional seats on public transportation for these bags. They do it for two reasons: 1) to keep others from sitting near them and 2) because they think their bags are too nice for the floor.

[–]KingLi88 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol there are real topics like paternal leave, custody of children, and 2 drunk people having sex being rape but this is what makes yall look bad. Men's rights? Oh yeah aren't they the ppl that complain about women putting bags on seats? No one's gonna research what is real men's rights because it's already a foreign concept and guess what consistently makes the front page? Bashing women cuz they do stupid shit from time to time like all humans.

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]dedasdude 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And this post has been made in satirical sense to make fun of that.

[–]J011ninja 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the top posts on Imgur (by a feminist) addresses this perfectly

https://imgur.com/gallery/xicaj/comment/1057037095

[–]Alabastercrab 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're expecting reason from the unreasonable

[–]Flaktrack 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm definitely with you on this one. I understand that some people want to call out the hypocrisy and that's ok, but it's going to have to be in a more constructive format than this. This just looks petty and stupid (like most feminist subs)

[–]Kenny_log_n_s 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That this post is doing so well honestly demonstrates how much of a joke this subreddit is.

This is shit fucking teenagers care about. Not men.

[–]DisconcertedLiberal 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People who engage in this kind of gender war are nothing more than man-children and women-children. Just utterly pathetic.

[–]run_mochila 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are 2 or 3 women every morning on my over packed bus taking up an extra seat with their bags.

[–]tonykaram1993 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what annoys me about it is that they are usually the last people to give up their seat, potentially giving them a larger space for a longer journey or even the full journey if people don't have the guts to ask. What makes them better than everyone else? Also she could put her bag in the above head spaces or on the table in front of her.

This point only applies if the train is a commonly busy train. But we would need to know the context.

I get it on my train all the time, I get on when there's generally seats available but there's always the same people taking up tones of extra room.. At the next stop there's usually enough people getting on to take up the last of the seats and some people standing. I made a point for a little while of asking to sit in the seat I wanted to even if other seats were available. I'd even get some daggers about it. Takes a brass neck and I don't really like doing it.

[–]NapoleonHeckYes -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's a case of categorisation and perception. Rather than saying "men" are causing a problem, why don't they just say "inconsiderate people" are causing a problem? ANYONE can take up too much space on a subway, whether its spreading your legs or putting your bag on the seat or anything.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

No where in my message did I mention anything about sex. All people are capable of being assholes.

I was talking about the crime rather than the categorisation of the OP.

Think I'm trying to make a point to the wrong Sub Reddit. But any way, my point still stands.

Just read my comment back and in the context of the sub Reddit - I look sexist as fuck. Derp.

[–]NapoleonHeckYes 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you didn't realise I was agreeing with you

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see, Reddit is hard.

[–][deleted] 664 points665 points666 points 9 years ago (59 children) | Copy Link

Without fail more seats on the subway are taken up by people like this than guys airing out their balls.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 160 points161 points162 points 9 years ago (58 children) | Copy Link

Let's not forget that most Americans across every state are overweight, with bigger behinds than train seats are designed for. Admittedly, male obesity is at a higher percentage than female, but not by some huge amount.
http://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-overweightobesity-rate-by-gender/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22}

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 79 points80 points81 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Wait, male obesity is higher than female obesity? HEAS has mislead me!

[–]theycallmeponcho 27 points28 points29 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think it's HAES, Health At Every Size.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Like I said to the other person, "Damn it. I'm leaving it."

[–]theycallmeponcho 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn it! Shit. I think I left my smokes at the bar. Fuck, now I have to go back out. Oh, wait, they're on the table. Never mind.

[–]Notentirely-accurate 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Either will work. The people who it affects will be dead from heart failure before they have time to sue.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 44 points45 points46 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Hebrew Emigrant Aid Society?

[–]Slothmaster222 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oy vey the goyim knows

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does El Toro mean that god is a cow?

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Damn it. I'm leaving it.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

EL-O-EL

[–]noahwhygodwhy 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

EL-EM-EF-AY-OH

[–]iamnathandrake 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

are we not in the right place?

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That doesn't spell HEAS.
We can all go to your place, if... that;s.... uh ok?

[–]iamnathandrake 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can ;)

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

As an obese white male, I don't even use public transportation.

[–]notacrackheadofficer -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I could see how women the same size as you would be agry at you for being in their princess presence. I hope I did not offend you. I wasn't out to do that to anyone because of their weight.
I don't resent anyone on a train or bus doing whatever unless they are truly being an asshole, or blowing crack smoke in kids' faces..

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I was just making a joke but yeah, I have basically no shame so I don't care if random strangers get butthurt about my glorious bulk.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I support you, shamelessly in your shamelessness.
''strangers get butthurt '' best subway seating pun in the thread.

[–]billytheid -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm glad you're statistically going to vanish from the earth well before me

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would rather go at 63 literally doing whatever the fuck I want than trembling at mortality​ when I'm 90

[–]Kobayakawamiyuki 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

Learn how to interpret data. What you show is overweight and obese. Your statement is actually false. Women have higher obesity rates, but lower rates of being overweight.

[–]notacrackheadofficer -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I've linked dozens of sources , from numerous websites, across many topics today on reddit. I'm pretty happy I made one tiny mistake this month.
Your dismissive condescension reminded me of a right cunt I used to know back in the day. He was a real asshole in every way. I don't call people bad stuff directly anymore, but I do have quite robust thoughts about such things, and still remember when I called deserving people things like that.
I'd rather my thoughts on you remain a mystery for now, but you do remind me of that guy a whole lot.

[–]parkourcowboy 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

"I'm not calling you an asshole but u remind me of one." Lol

[–]notacrackheadofficer -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Are you a cop or a teacher? I never met any other kinds of people who would launch into obnoxiousness over an honest mistake.
Now I feel suddenly grateful for my proper upbringing, in comparison to others I encounter.

[–]parkourcowboy 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You write alot yet somehow say nothing take a chill pill dude

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[–]notacrackheadofficer -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your tween feminist shaming tactic from tumblr was very skillfully applied.
Everyone is impressed. You better get your uniform on, The Brownie meeting is in a half hour at the nursery school.

[–]threeseed 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Was that supposed to be a witty retort ? It's pathetic.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like your demeanor. It's challenging as fuck.

[–]PIG_CUNT 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Again with the brilliant comments. Sadly I have only one up boat to give.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks!

[+]Higgs_deGrasse_Boson points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

They called you out for being wrong. As someone who links dozens of sources, from numerous websites, across many topics today on Reddit the only thing you should be saying is "thank you." Way to fight fire with fire, you right cunt.

[–]notacrackheadofficer -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You and they are wrong because your attitudes are sub vermin levels of discourse. Many have toiled at the stream of sewage, holding up random shiny objects for passersby, eliciting excited murmurs of treasure. I , however, have never fell for such folly. The guy was a dick, and you are attracted to him, so get a room,and stop wasting time with me. I'm not getting involved in a casual relationship with you.

[–]Throwaway123465321 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone should post this to iamverysmart

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

said in a hold your nose tone

[–]PIG_CUNT -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

No, they rudely said "Learn how to interpret data." Big difference between that and politely and respectfully pointing out "Actually, you misread the chart."

If you made a mistake and someone treated you that way, we all know you would respond the same way you deride this guy for doing. I bet your comment history may even reveal that. Hypocrisy abounds in you

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't believe you got down voted for that. Have an up boat.

[–]PIG_CUNT 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for posting this! Sorry about that one commenter being extremely rude as well as ungrateful for your contribution.

Side note, look at the chart at year 2010. The percentage of overweight women went sharply downward. Did they get skinny or fatter? Mystery solved: The data show that the percentages of obese and extremely obese women shot up when the percentage of merely overweight women went down. They got fatter.

. Also interesting is the data show that women's weight is now more polarized: women tend to be either skinny, or obese/extremely obese.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

That is terrific statistical analysis. Thank you

[–]PIG_CUNT 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You're welcome.

Also noteworthy is how when the sugar industry got together in the 1970's and bribed researchers to blame fat for obesity instead of sugar (historical facts, not conspiracy theory!!! Crazy shit. Google it), that's when women's weight problems began.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

In 1973, I remember sugar tripling in price in the US, in 2 months.
I was there. All of us kids were very angry that our meager pennies became useless metal disks, when candy prices flew skyward.

[–]PIG_CUNT 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You know, I hadn't even thought of that. Brilliant insight.

And you are exactly right. Look:

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/sugar

Huge spike, peaking not long after you said.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You may not, under penalty of law, import processed white sugar into the US.
Certain companies had, have and will always have the contracts. This is gangster shit to make any cocaine cartel look like school girls making daisy chains.
Here's a pile of info https://www.google.com/search?q=sugar+cartel+us+sugar+processing

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/banana-land-blood-bullets-poison/

''Sugar prices in the United States are kept artificially high through a 3-part system of economic controls. First, the government imposes a rigid quota system on sugar production. Currently, 54.35% of US produced sugar must be beet sugar, while the remaining 45.65% is produced from sugar cane. Each state and sugar company is then assigned a production quota based on a complicated formula decided upon by the USDA. This cartel structure makes it illegal for producers to sell sugar that exceeds their given quota. The government further controls the sugar market through a two-tiered tariff system that allows US growers to provide about 85% of the market and keeps prices artificially high. Quotas are set for both beet and cane sugar imports, and those selling under that quota are charged a lower tariff than those selling above it. Finally, the federal government operates a complicated loan system to ensure sugar prices do not fall below a government-mandated price floor. The USDA loans money to sugar processors, with the sugar being counted as collateral for the loan. Processors in turn agree to pay sugar growers a minimum price. If the market price of sugar rises, processors can sell their sugar on the market in order to repay the government loan. If it falls however, processors can forfeit their sugar to the government rather than repaying the loan. In this manner, the price of sugar is guaranteed for both growers and processors.''
https://www.atr.org/sugar-policy-sweet-economy-a7127
....
http://sugarreform.org/unwrapthefacts/
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http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/?q=article/2014/05/07/american-sugar-cartel
Did I mention GANGSTER? As in lopping the heads off of children in a merry bloodbath?
Right after the 1973 sugar crisis, which linked right up with the ''coconut oil is the most cancerous substance on earth'' national mass media saturation, we got ...... drum roll...... red carpet ...... High fructose corn syrup, and partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.
Both in one year.
Did I happen to mention my feelings that it was all very gangster?

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You didn't mention that you felt it was at all gangster, but I'm very intuitive. I read between the lines. I'm sensing that the more you learn about the sugar cartel, the more you don't care for it.

All kidding aside, HOLY SHIT!

Did you just uncover all that or were you for some reason already aware of this??

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember being a child in 1973 and the sugar embargo being front page news, with full saturation. Every mom was freaking out in my lower middle class town about the prices shooting sky high on something that used to be very inexpensive. Everyone my age knows about it. If they don't remember, they were and probably still are in a deep TV minded, yay TV trance.
I've been conspiracy researching since 84. This is old news to me.
Let me see if I can find a good doc. There are many now that skirt the juicy details, and lounge about in ''humanitarian issues [pictures of sad kids]'' , and ''sugar is bad for you'' stuff. Those leftie docs are the worst. Pictures of crying people, but barely any names dates places, details. I hate the right as much as the left, but leftie emotional heart string docs suck big time. I want to know ''who did this?'' and certainly not ''How does it feel to suffer?'' 20 minutes of amputated orphans cryong, then, ''we have to do something!!'', and the crucial details never covered.
This one is ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHh5odELpi4
sorry, I'm giving up on looking for now.

[–]DarthTyekanik 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Apparently not in NYC. Bleh. Fucking fat-asses.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It looks like feminism is extremely upset about anyone bothered by fat asses in subways, taking up too much room. It's misogyny to be judgmental about how much space a person takes up in the subway, and misogynistic to take up too much space in the subway. Somehow the entire bulk of US urban populations are thus misogynists.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fat+shaming+and+subway+seats

[–]DarthTyekanik 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Feminism boiled down to this nonsense...

[+]throwaway_r9 points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

and you lot wonder why men's rights aren't taken seriously, because of comment chains like this...

[–]DarthTyekanik 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't. I know it's because women don't like when they're told the truth.

[–]pandagene 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh my god the other day this guy was taking up like 3 seats on the train during rush our!

[–]notacrackheadofficer 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When there were smoking cars on trains, it was more fun. Regular bartenders, clouds of polluting vapors, and a need to be able to stand without falling. in essentially, a rolling, lurching barroom.
Look at this party on wheels http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-york-city-1960s-gallery-1.1038782?pmSlide=1.1038733
Now trains are like jails, where boisterous speech and fun are considered a crime. There was daily gambling in the same seats on the same trains, back then, 5 days a week, with packs of revelers cheering them on, every rush hour, day and night..
Now the train is like a Stentorian trip to Dachau every dreary day, where eyes must remain front, conversation dimmed or squelched, and hands in lap. I said no talking. ''She should have followed the rules''. ''You have to leave the train now sir, for talking''.
I wish young people realized what is still not yet fully out of grasp.
http://media.nbcnewyork.com/images/1200*675/metro%20north%20bar%20car%20last%20ride.jpg That photo is of things deemed illegal now. We are all bad boys and girls now, in punishment. We're grounded indefinitely. I hope everyone is ashamed of themselves. I said no talking. Eyes front.

[+]WaffleBattle points 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm in Europe right now. I sit in those seats with no eye contact to the person. It's worked so far.

[–]paperairplanerace 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I might start doing this. In my city men and women are both pretty bad about this on public transport and when the bus/train isn't full at all it's whatever but past a point I just want to call them all out

[–]EduBA 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The same here but, when possible, I use some bicycle.

[–]Spurnout 33 points34 points35 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Sit on her lap!

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Better yet, start stretching daily out of spite till you can perform a full split. Manspread across the aisle and take up a whole row at once!

[–]gsingh1895 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If someone starts filming me "manspreading" then this is exactly what I'll do

[–]7777777e 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's intrusive.

[–]Spurnout 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why of course!

[–]RolfIsSonOfShepnard 138 points139 points140 points 9 years ago (63 children) | Copy Link

i always take either the bus or subway into NYC since i hate paying tolls. ive seen a lot more women with their purses or shopping bags in an extra seat then men with their legs folded or spread. its annoying when people complain about men trying to get a little bit comfortable on the small seats in the subway when in reality women put their shit everywhere. they either put it in an extra seat or in the fucking walking path part instead of the overhead bins things.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 245 points246 points247 points 9 years ago (54 children) | Copy Link

A female friend told me about manspreading and I sent this to her to show anybody can do it and she said 'very funny' before saying that it's about time women took up more space. She then called me a misogynist for pointing out the double standard, told me to educate myself by listening to feminist podcasts then stopped talking to me.

[–]Stripes1974 143 points144 points145 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're better off without her.

If your [so-called] friend can't listen to you (as s/he expects to be listened to), can't discuss things with you even when they might not agree with you, can't even keep an open mind with someone who is supposed to be a friend to them, then they are not your friend.

[–]lennoxonnell 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i just feel bad for the next poor sod who has to put up with her bullshit. Can't change stupid, unfortunately.

[–]sparkykingheat 54 points55 points56 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Dude...wtf? I seriously can't believe people like that exist

[–]notacrackheadofficer 59 points60 points61 points 9 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link

By the millions. Teen Vogue, Seventeen, Cosmopolitan, and every other non Mom oriented publication geared towards females, demands that every reader take the men by the balls, control them in intricate ways, and take out the ''thousands of years of oppression'' on them. All US fashion magazines are extreme rad fem magazines now, because it is trendy and the young minds of those who are suckers for fashion programming are easy to program in other ways. Nearly every teen and college girl reads these magazines sometimes. Most have read several a month, from ages 10 to 25, over the last several decades of their feminist agendas.
The irony in this article is so thick, I can't see my fingers...
http://www.vogue.com/article/trump-women-hysteria-and-history
''Feminism, Femininity, and the "Beauty" Dilemma: How Advertising Co-opted the Women's Movement'' http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/fashion/The-Beauty-Dilemma.html

Feminism and Advertising in Traditional and Nontraditional Women's Magazines 1950s-1980s http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/107769909307000202 .
Seventeen has marketed itself to girls age ten to age seventeen, for decades. They know their demographic of preteens tweens and teens, very well. ''What should we write for the 10, 11 and 12 year olds, staff members? '' was the question in the board room of grown women, writing for children, and this is what they came up with:

http://www.seventeen.com/health/sex-health/advice/a96/sex-survey-results-hsp-0606/
Basically saying it's awesome to start sucking cocks before you are 15, and normal to get banged in Jr High. 99.9999% of dads have never glanced at these magazines to see what's in them, and would be taken back. Moms all approve of them in every way.
Inside Teen Vogue: 'Our readers consider themselves activists'
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/feb/25/teen-vogue-readers-consider-themselves-activists
http://www.teenvogue.com/wellness/sexual-health-identity
''How Teen Vogue got political I follow it online for its smart, ahead-of-the-curve, liberal and feminist coverage''
https://www.ft.com/content/973bd14a-e228-11e6-9645-c9357a75844a?mhq5j=e1
Every single US fashion magazine is anti men at this point, and refers to us as dogs that need leashing and heeling. No one can produce any fashion magazine that isn't extreme rad fem now. All girls from 10 to 25+ read them.

[–]sparkykingheat 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Bruh...I love me some sources. Goddamn

[–]notacrackheadofficer 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Slumber parties of young girls should be policed by parents for blow job advice magazines. It could anger some other parents to learn that their child was reading porno penis sucking tips from filth screeds at your home.
Life is getting tricky. You could be sued and lose your kids and home for allowing Teen Vogue or Seventeen to be at such a party.
Now for some more sources of horror. I'm an anarchist weed grower, for reference, and not a right winger or a prude.
''Talk to your child about sex (including oral sex) early and often. Don’t wait to have the conversation! Clearly, children are becoming aware of sex and oral sex at a young age ” make them hear about it from you. Parents are the most influential people in a child’s life. You need to have an active ongoing dialogue so that your child feels comfortable discussing this topic with you. Start the conversations early and repeat them often. ''
http://www.drphil.com/advice/talking-to-your-teen-about-sex/
''Dad can you tell me about blowjobs again as a bedtime story?'' WTF
....
''Oral sex. Blow jobs. Giving head. Mouth-petting the love bunny. (OK, I made that last one up.)

You've got questions about oral sex, and you deserve some straight answers. Find them here - and if you've still got questions, ask them in the Teen Advice forum'' http://teenadvice.about.com/od/sex/tp/all_about_blowjobs_and_oral_sex.htm
''Everyone suck a cock! It's hilarious to do as a teen!'' says Holly Ashworth, the apparent expert in the matter, chosen by hand by the big wigs at about.com and their srtiving for the most informed reporters on various subjects. ''Hey who should we get to advise children on blowjob techniques?''
''I heard Holly Ashworth is very intricately skilled in this artful science, let's choose her. She loves kids.''
.....
Millions of children read this in 6th to 8th grade:
''6 Things You Should Know Before Giving a Rim Job

If you don't know, now you know. By Lane Moore '' http://www.cosmopolitan.com/oral-sex/
.....

Teen Sex Trend: Blow Jobs Are The New Goodnight Kiss! http://www.thefrisky.com/2009-05-29/teen-sex-trend-blow-jobs-are-the-new-goodnight-kiss/
''Everyone suck a bag of dicks, so you are a cool teen!''
wow
......
''This Just In: Teen Girls Say Giving Oral Sex Is Like Homework (If You Need Me, You Can Find Me In the Bursar's Office)'' .... ''Researchers sat down with 98 teenagers (ages 12-17) in the San Francisco Bay area (maybe it's a regional thing?) and interviewed them on how they felt about performing oral sex.''
http://www.glamour.com/story/breaking-teen-girls-say-oral-s Is that legal? I find asking 12 year olds about how much they enjoy sucking cocks or pussies a little weird. I wouldn't do it, under any circumstances.
...
'' Teens engage in oral sex more often than sexual intercourse. Some view oral sex as casual and risk-free, while others use oral and anal sex as a way to technically preserve their virginity. ''
.... '' "It's not as bad now as it was when I was in junior high," says 17-year-old Tricia from Dallas. " *
Back then, everyone was giving blow jobs -- even at school ** .''
http://www.sheknows.com/parenting/articles/953393/teen-talk-does-oral-sex-count
.......
'' Tolman said that cultural attitudes about risky behaviors needed to be understood for prevention programs to work.

Non-Hispanic white females reported having oral sex more often (69 percent) than non-Hispanic black females (63 percent) or Hispanic females (59 percent). ''

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/cdc-40-percent-teens-oral-sex/story?id=17013130
Holy fucking racist. ''We heard you Puerto Rican girls like to suck cock, so we are targeting you with special blowjob advice.'' is that their plan?
''Black girls go in that classroom, and Hispanics over here, and Asians over there, and Whites over here. We'll be giving ethnically specialized blow job classes now for all the 12 year old girls'' /s
....
7 Real Girls Give Advice On How To Act When Receiving Oral Sex
... ''It’s okay to be a little nervous, especially if it’s your first time. But keep in mind that being eaten out is supposed to feel good! In fact, since oral sex usually stimulates your clitoris, this is a really popular way for young women to have orgasms… some even like it more than penetrative sex! So it’s not like your partner will grab some eating utensils and spoon out your insides for a meal. The best thing to do is just relax and take things slowly.

Check out what our Gurl readers had to say about getting someone to go down on you:'' http://www.gurl.com/2015/10/06/7-real-girls-share-how-to-enjoy-receiving-oral-sex/#1
Um... You go gurl?
...
''Perhaps watch some porn to get ideas, but do understand that you don't have to try to be perfect or do it like a pornstar. Just have fun with it, and as for your teeth, just try not to bite him. That's pretty much all there is to it.''
http://www.teenhelp.org/forums/f6-sex-puberty/t116251-advice-oral-sex-beginner/
The hundreds of grown ass women writing this shit would be arrested if they were male and drummed out of all journalism.
''Who wants to talk about 12 year old girls sucking on penises?'' would get every man a serious beat down, in every possible situation.
Every female journalist at every teen publication seems to LOVE talking about 12 year old girls giving blow jobs and rim jobs.

[–]The_Lupercal 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Im curious if there is a teenage boy equivalent for all this shit. I don't remember anything other than maxim magazine and that isn't geared towards teenagers.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They seem to just get twisted by the hypocrisy of sports. Adults pretending to be good sports while screaming at televisions, taunting friends and strangers about team alliances on the edge of fighting words in any other manlike context, raging at every mistake on the TV by any player,then pretending to be supportive of all mistakes on the field.
Son makes mistake during game: Parent tries to ''good try'' buffer, as some other moms/dads are enraged. Dad was yelling his face red at the guy on TV who did the same thing yesterday, but it's good try now to the confused kid. as ''YOU SUCK!'' comes flying out of some random's mouth.
It's a little different than ''You rule the world sweetheart princess, and here's how to fuck and suck your way through it all'' literally,
This here website is owned by the people doing this:
Allure, Brides, Glamour, Vogue, Teen Vogue, W, Self, Style.com.
They hate us here. They make bazillions off the bullshit narrative. If I knew how to build a reddit, and call it mendit, allowing only men, I would build it.

[–]paperairplanerace 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Okay wow I've been hanging with the movement for a minute and this is all shit I never considered. I stopped reading Girl's Life at like 12 and it was a really positive magazine then and I never got into the others idk. This is fascinating and important evidence about the true mainstreamness of this kind of rhetoric.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a full saturation main stream force. Some people watch some channels. Some people read some newspapers. All preteen females read fashion magazines. Very few teen males ever read them. No dads do.
''Jr High Blowjob advice on how to control your high school boyfriend'' is the tone, across the board.

[–]paperairplanerace 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's totally true, I just never thought about it. I heard girls casually talk about manipulating men with sex but I never really thought about how they were finding it encouraged outside of just other mean girls. I always avoided those types.

[–]threeseed -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The guy is deranged and it's all bullshit.

There is absolutely a concerted effort to encourage young women to be more assertive and care about issues that affect them. But that doesn't mean it has to come at the expense of men or that men are somehow the enemy.

Do you really think young women aren't interested in men anymore ? I mean really do you honestly think that is true ?

[–]paperairplanerace 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of them are only interested in using men and talk about them like they're pets. This happened a lot among girls my age and a few years younger, back ... not really as much when I was in high school (dropped out 2005) but a little later, when I was still hanging with some high school aged kids and was involved with some youth services shit. I heard many girls flippantly talk about sex as currency or false rape accusation as a legitimate threat to use to make men behave the way they wanted. Exposure to that in everyday conversations was a big part of my departure from feeling comfortable with the newest flavor of feminist rhetoric and my awakening to its consequences.

[–]Left_Brain_Train 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tfw immune to this metastasizing cancerous bullshit because I'm a five on the Kinsey Scale. I know this sounds awful, but reading these makes me feel sorry for modern straight men. I honestly do not comprehend how they deal with it. I am very grateful that female empowerment exists for the women in my life–but it sure as hell doesn't look like this.

Something in the back of my head always told me being picked on for being too gay in middle school would pay off someday.

[–]Munchykin 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

For curiosities sake, can you cite me some sources on "nearly every" teenager/young adult reading these magazines?

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you are including the males? I didn't.
I'd say that Mormon, Amish, and maybe Jehovah Witnesses do not ever read any fashion magazines, maybe some do. The rest of female society reads fashion magazines, in their modern digital forms and print forms , even if just bored in a waiting room.
''Do you think teens still read teen magazines in print? "It’s funny that everyone assumes that millennials and teens aren’t reading print mags, but all the research that I have seen shows that is not the case. Young people are reading the same, or even slightly more, print magazines than older folks — but they are also reading more of everything. More digital. More social. They are just rabid beasts consuming media! There really is something special about those teen years when it comes to their relationship with media. They are at a time in their lives where they are searching for answers to problems, desperate to connect to others going through the same thing, and hungry for inspiration and confidence to make the right decisions. Teen mags still fulfill those needs like no other medium.
.... I have watched tweens come to a magazine through the [title's] app, subscribe, then keep all the print issues and pore over them with friends. The print product isn't always their first stop, but one of many."
...."Those magazines helped form a sisterhood by creating a common narrative for so many of us, and now those girls are creating and sharing their own narratives every day. They have the ability to publish a mini-magazine daily on Snapchat or Instagram, and to giggle with their girlfriends in the comments sections — rather than passing on a well-battered copy of a magazine.""
http://www.refinery29.com/2016/08/119065/teen-magazines-nostalgia-seventeen-ym
All I can find is old stuff. According to a 2006 report by Magazine Publishers of America, 78% of teens read magazines. A 1999 study conducted by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that teens 15 to 18 spend an average of 13 minutes daily reading magazines. They also found that on a given day, about 6 in 10 of these teens will read a magazine, boys being 10% more likely to do so than girls.

Online surveys taken in 2001 by SmartGirl and Young Adult Library Services Association found that 31.3% of young people ages 11 to 18 reported that teen magazines were their favorite non-book reading material.
http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/fall07/Moorhouse/impact.html

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just found this http://www.magazine.org/sites/default/files/MPA-FACTbook201617-ff.pdf
Page 25. Almost 100%.

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's crazy wth

[–]notacrackheadofficer 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For about 40 years. Every mom knows. They shove these magazines at their kids.

[–]threeseed -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What a load of complete and utter bullshit.

If all girls from 10-25+ are rabidly "anti-men" and men are just dogs then why do they have boyfriends ? Why hasn't the birth rate collapsed ? Why aren't politicians and sociologists in a panic about the massive implications to future GDP and tax earnings ?

That's right. Because women are still very much interested in men.

They just aren't interested in assholes like you.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You made up some LSD + MDMA + psilocybin level stuff there.
Yep ''all girls from 10-25+ are rabidly "anti-men"'' /s . That's what you really said? That's some really funny word blending trickery you have going on there. Are you a juggler?
Do you call Mom wall, and Dad chair?

[–]L3tum 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always find this funny.

"Women are so poorly treated/Men always do X!"

"But look at Y"

"Nooooo screeching"

Society: "You misogynist! Womanhater! Uneducated bastard!"

[–]EndlessFantasyX 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Trust me, she's not your friend.

[–]JakeWasAlreadyTaken 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that bitch sounds like a moron not a friend

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Is she a daddy's girl type feminist? They tend to be the ones who expect the entire world to spoil them.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 43 points44 points45 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She genuinely believes she can't get jeans that fit her because of the patriarchy.

[–]tinsins 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do these jeans make me look fat? No, it's that big ass of yours.

[–]watisgoinon_ 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah and prison planet can't get good sponsors because of extra-dimensional machine elves and the Illuminati. As soon as someone starts blaming every single one of the worlds problems on the same amorphous conspiracy they're beyond reasoning with.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude I'm 6'6 and I have the same problem, does that mean I finally have someone to blame besides averages?

[–]sparkykingheat 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My girlfriend can't find jeans that fit her either...except that's because she's super skinny...but actually not crazy. Just healthy. A size zero doesn't fit her because of all the fuckinng beauty sizing to make fatter women feel better about their size. She hates it and blames other women...obviously. God love her.

[–]jay1441 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok ok we get it you have a girlfriend.

[–]gwarsh41 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Denial is a very scary thing.

[–]Left_Brain_Train 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was stuck in college with these Disney Princess types for years. They're immature and the absolute worst. Especially to one another. They're every bit as bad as the blank-palate douche-bros who make terrible life choices and think they have something to prove by shitting on other men.

If I sound harsh, that's because it's true.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I know the type. They're spoiled, therefore their feminism is spoiled. The more humble ones like "I do get undue, unwanted attention from men in public and online, so I have no mercy toward the pervs" I'm cool with.

[–]heard_enough_crap 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

feminist podcasts

autistic screeching

[–]threeseed 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/r/thatHappened

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have screenies, just don't fancy posting them.

[–]Boner-b-gone 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know what that is? Someone who just wants power and is bitchy they can't have it. Someone who thinks "equality" means "I should get to be just as big a thundercunt douchecanoe as I believe all men are. Yeah! Equality! I demand the right to be just as big an asshole as I believe men are!!"

Anyone like that of any race, color, gender, or creed can fuck right off.

[–]nosmokingbandit 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

then stopped talking to me.

So everybody wins.

[–]Llamada 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She female-splained you.

[–]angrybastards 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Friend"

[–]majortom22 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a psycho. That's delusional

[–]Griever114 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hoped that cunt is removed from your phone and life.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sounds like you nailed it.

[–]ElectroFlannelGore 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hilarious this reads like a Reddit joke reply but this exact thing has happened to me more times than I can count.....

[–]aptpupil79 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What podcasts?

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't ask.

[–]nobodyyoullremember 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's times like this I'm probably better off having schizoid personality disorder.

[–]l3linkTree_Horep -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Proof?

[–]sayyesplz 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've gotten bad looks taking the metro (DC) because my legs are aoread, but I'm tall enough that my legs are physically too long to fit in the seat unless I spread them to straddle the seat in front of me. I try to get a front seat when I can but that's not always an option and I don't always want to stand for a 30 min metro just because I'm tall.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

plus for every guy manspreading, there's another guy offering his seat to a woman during a commute. these people just want to be miserable.

[–]CaterpieLv99 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I will always get up without asking for an elderly, disabled, pregnant, etc person. Never for a healthy woman. That's sexist and anti-feminism

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I get up in packed trains because I'm not at armpit height. unless I'm really enjoying sitting down.

[–]CaterpieLv99 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see it as women's own fault for only liking guys that are 6'+ :P

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well if they need to use the overhead bins you'd be the one who shed ask to put it up there, equality and such.

[–]Rabid_Pink_Princess 182 points183 points184 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I believe that feminists will tell you something like: Yeah, but if a man wants to sit I offer him space!

But for them is different, they don't want to ask anything. I have a couple of female friends who tell me things that always end this way: and I'm the first female allowed to do it in that place!

So my questions is always: and what did you need to do to achieve it?

I had to ask it.

Yeah. A lot of women complain about the fact that women who don't ask for stuff don't get that stuff.

[–][deleted] 91 points92 points93 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well see, you don't understand. Women are afraid to ask for things because they're accustomed to having things provided for them they might LITERALLY be murdered for it, right there in the middle of the train in front of everyone. /s

[–]Yuo_cna_Raed_Tihs 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And also internalised misogyny and patriarchy

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always those things too, overarching all sin.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's what shits me about this inclusivity stuff now. Like people really don't get that life in general and openly accessible public spaces are participatory. As in everyone's invited. It is easier to exclude one or two things from something explicitly (and believe it or not, my dude, in 2017 it is really not at all allowed to have a "no blacks" sign anywhere or anything of the sort) than to have to think up the hundred categories of things that are allowed. So when someone has an LGBT group they don't need to state that it includes black LGBT people. You include yourself, by showing the fuck up and doing something.

But no we have to physically invite and beg every woman, black person, LGBTIQNGBBQ personally like they're some developmentally challenged child who cannot understand the concept that they can be addressed without outright saying their name every time.

[–]Rabid_Pink_Princess 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You include yourself, by showing the fuck up and doing something.

In a case I mentioned the situation was even worse. This girl was talking about her job (doctor in a hospital), she told: Only men did that particular task! And it's an important task, yet no woman wasn't doing it! Do you think is this ok?? I was the first one who did it! in 2016!

So I asked: Ow... and what did you do so that you could do it?

I just did it! Obviously!

This was her answer, and she didn't realize how stupid that was until I explained it. As a girl, I've listened to these bullshits from girls I know all my life.Truth is a lot of women are okay not doing stuff, they are happy when men do it for them, and yet they are always ready to complain that only men do it without even trying to do it. I talked about something even worse here.

[–]ckiemnstr345 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This phenomenon was started by feminists when they came up with the "default male" trope in the 60s. If media doesn't explicitly state what gender a person is then the reader can assume the author is talking about a man. This has been expanded to include gender/sexuality so that the "default" person being talked about in media is a straight white male. This is why every group needs to be invited individually.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Male here. You want something, just ask. Feminism and creepy scary men have taught me to generally keep my distance unless you approach me.

In the case of man spreading, I'm spreading for comfort (you try sitting for long periods of time with a sausage and two potatoes down there between your legs and tell me what is more comfortable. If I see you move towards a seat next to me, I'll make space without being asked. Gender is irrelevant in that case.

[–]Rabid_Pink_Princess 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tbh there shouldn't be the necessity of justifying anything. As you said gender is irrelevant.

Personally I always put my purse on the seat next to mine if it's empty, and when someone approaches I'll make space. That's how about everyone behaves. Rude people exist, obviously, but I've seen them in both genders.

And honestly, if I have to reach a conclusion, we are always ruder than you, looking at a girl who moves bags cause of you make you more uncomfortable than a man who closes his legs.

[+]HouseElfHaberdashery points 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Ma'amspreading.

[–]SRGTxTwinkie 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your name gives me joy.

[+]HouseElfHaberdashery points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That's​ the intent, so thank you for letting me know it's working.

[–]SRGTxTwinkie 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No probs

[+]Dwaynempj points 9 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Does this mean "don't sit next to me" or "say excuse me, may i sit next to you"

[–]paperairplanerace 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It really just usually means they aren't thinking about it, and "excuse me" should be fine. Once in a while if I'm finishing something on my phone as I board, I'll do that for a minute before I remember to get my shit gathered up on my lap. Unless it's crowded in which case fuck people who don't keep shit packed up compactly

[–]Brandwein 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Sitting down on a "free" seat next to a woman is always a gamble, especially the ones above student age. The ones just beginning their career to middle aged ones are the worst generally.

Last week the train i was on was almost full, i passed one row where a 30-something woman sat alone, other seat free and only minorly obstructed by her things. I passed her, other people searching for seats coming after, and perceived the following behind me:

Young man: "Excuse me" (Proceeds to move into the free seat, expecting her to move her stuff)

Woman: "I SIT HERE!"

Young man: "Huh? Oh."

Woman: "I SAID I SIT HERE!"

(Young man leaves her alone)

Now that just could have been a disturbed individual, but i EXPECT such reactions nowadays and rather avoid them.

[–]MyNameIsSushi 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why do you expect such reactions? This is ridiculous. Those reactions are the exception, not the norm.

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points74 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This whole 'manspreading' is bullshit. People want space (its an emotional safety thing) and women do it just as much as any man. Might just as well call it peoplespreading and be honest about it.

[+]goldmedalflower points 9 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

women do it just as much as any man

yes but when feminists hear the term 'manspreading', they come very close to achieving that elusive orgasm that's been eluding them for all these years

[–]TerraOrdinem 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As the comment below me is saying, this sub is just as guilty. This is supposed to be about men's rights, not women that just annoy men. This has nothing to do with men or women, it's just annoying people. If you think it's annoying for women to complain about men taking too much space, surely it's annoying to hear men complain about it, too.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the most underrated comments here.

[+][deleted] -10 points-9 points-8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Brilliant! You just summed up what this sub is actually about.

[–]IamJai 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That seat looks like ScotRail is it?

[–]GirlByTheRiver 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This was my question. Looks like one of the good trains too, the ones you can charge your phone on.

[–]IamJai 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have to be lucky to get them, or even a seat sometimes. The line is still a godsend though

[–]PotatoDonki 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That manner of leg-crossing takes up even more space than...godidontwanttotalkaboutthisanymore...

[–]unbuttoned 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Christ this is such a non-issue. The solution in all cases is just saying "excuse me, may I sit?" In society you have to communicate with other people. That's how it works.

And secondly, it's not men's genitalia in the way, it's bone structure. The Q angle of the femur makes it significantly more uncomfortable for men to sit with their knees together. Most of the time, it's physiology, not impoliteness. In those cases where it is rudeness, just calmly ask them to move.

[–]CowardlyLionel 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Just ask to sit.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Obviously but his point is Women could just as easily ask men to move their legs if it is somehow taking up another seat. Also OP has a seat he was just pointing out women take up seats they don't need to and in the comments he said in his personal experience women do this more than Men "manspread"

[–]CowardlyLionel 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

These are all assumptions, is my point.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes we would all get along better if we didn't assume things but it is impossible to stop that.

[–]CowardlyLionel 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Except, by addressing the assumptions.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm trying to say this stuff will never stop because Human Beings naturally assume things about people.

[–]CowardlyLionel 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. I'm saying the way to counter "nature" is with awareness. To be aware of one's own nature is to have the ability to question the usefulness of that nature. To question one's world is to interact with and change that world.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But we can't make everyone else aware if they don't listen. People don't want to have the most accurate beliefs and ideas they want the ones that make them feel the best or they don't want to be wrong and will dig in so they don't appear stupid. (Ironically making them appear stupid)

[–]CowardlyLionel 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't help everybody. I can help me. So, if she's sitting where I need to be, I ask to sit. That's the benefit of the doubt, and a lack of assumption. If she refuses the seat, it's on her. At that point, I decide whether to press the issue. This whole thread is offense taken as an assumption. There may have been no offense.

[–]megaassblaster 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that most men and women would either close their legs a bit or hold their bags if someone needed a seat, if someone asked. So I don't really see man spreading or she bagging as a big deal until the person doing so becomes a problem. I.e. When someone needs a seat but the man won't move his legs/ the woman won't move her bags. That's when it becomes a problem.

[–]boogswald 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it's not some gender rights issue. There are real issues like that. This is just an overreaction to someone being a very mild annoyance.

[–]Andpeggy123 38 points39 points40 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

We get annoyed by feminists complaining about man spreading how about we don't complain about this

[–]Copidosoma 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you are entirely missing the point.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

[–]TerraOrdinem 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But all that meninist subs do is compare themselves to feminism. How am I supposed to tell if the users are actually upset at a woman being annoying or if they're doing it tongue-in-cheek?

[–]Andpeggy123 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that's true

[–]Revoran 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can we not sink to the level of tumblr SJWs by taking photos of random people's legs on the train?

[+]tmone points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You are entirely missing the point.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

[–]threeseed 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But there is no context.

The train could be completely empty in which case anyone would sit like that.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This would be more irritating if we knew this woman was an active complainer about manspreading, but we don't, so OP is just fussing like the feminists he's complaining about.

Everyone fusses over everything.

[–]throwawayodd33 51 points52 points53 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Seriously? This is the shit you post on /r/MensRights???

I've never once heard a single person even mention "manspreading" but this sub would have you think they are just fucking attacked for sitting down.

No wonder people don't take this sub seriously.

[–]pupperiina 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. This is just circlejerking. You're making fools of yourselves by letting this kind of shit get into frontpage. Try discussing about actual men's problems and stop trying to prove the minority of radfems who actually think manspreading is a thing wrong.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I posted this as kind of a 'men's rants' kind of thing, never imagined it would get thousands of upvotes.

I have the same inkling as /u/Vanderchoz below.

[–]Vandechoz 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're making fools of yourselves by letting this kind of shit get into frontpage.

I'm not entirely convinced that these bullshit posts aren't getting to /r/all via an upvote brigade from opposition.

[+]curiouslyanonymous2 points 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

How about a major news outlet putting forth these articles? I think that counts as "a single person even mentioning it"

Toronto Star Madrid Manspreading

Toronto Star Manspreading

Toronto Star Attacks manspreading defenders

Maybe don't exaggerate to make an incorrect point next time

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Says the loser who supported Sanders for president.

[–]throwawayodd33 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep! Judging by the pathetic excuse we currently have for a president, I'll happily stand by that choice.

You, on the other hand, are salty enough about a post I made to go back through hundreds of posts to find something to attack me with. I haven't posted about Sanders in months.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sanders is as terrible as Trump. He endorses Linda Sarsour. Dumb fuck.

[+]tmone points 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you are entirely missing the point.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

If you don't like it, get the fuck out. Quit bitchn.

[–]throwawayodd33 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nope, I'm entirely entitled to an opinion to call this post shit. Instead of all the actual VALID issues men experience, such as workplace deaths, court bias, culture bias, expendability, and THIS is the shit that you all send to the front page?

That's not a men's right sub so much as an anti-feminist circlejerk, mate.

[–]threeseed 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not a men's right sub so much as an anti-feminist circlejerk, mate.

No shit. That's why any normal, well functioning man would/should stay clear of this sub.

[–]Hazzman 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Like so much of this bullshit none of it has anything to do with gender.

Its just called being inconsiderate and rude.

[–]Meyright 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mens bone structure is build the way that it needs constant muscle tension to hold legs together.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5601a1b2e4b0eaa138babe0c/5601a499e4b059089d7e33e3/56e030ef45bf21d060d0e609/1457533368670/1444775568437.gif?format=1000w

Womens hips are wider and legs are more pointed inwards.

That I even need to explain that to you is whats wrong with todays times. This whole issue is stupid to begin with.

[–]rocelot7 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Oddly I haven't too much of this, usual school kids actually, and I commute by transit. Hell I've done it a couple times with groceries or odd big item, but I'm ready to move it when people get on the bus.

I think what pisses me off about this is how much of a non issue this is. Just all the person nicely. Trying or succeeding this into some sorry a of bylaw infraction is absurd.

[–]pjpacattack 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not okay with anyone taking up more than one seat, but as a daily NYC commuter (and male) I ABSOLUTELY notice men doing this far more often than women. They regularly and purposefully take up two spaces (or one and a half) so that no one will touch them. The primary victim of manspreading isn't women. It's everyone and it's a shitty thing to do. Not a fan of hating men, obviously. But fuck yo, manspreading is real and it's shitty

[–]boogswald 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Hello, may I sit here?" should solve all of your problems

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Fucking whiners

[–]drylube 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The correct term is feminist

[–]TerraOrdinem 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, the correct term is people. Both feminists and meninists are being annoyed by annoying people.

[–]RightIntoMyNoose 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People are annoyed by annoying people 🙄

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah man, I'm calling the average poster in this subreddit a bunch of whiners. It's just nuts like 90% of the time.

[+]tmone points 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Lazy ass comment right here. Can't articulate a Well thought out point? I know! I'll just insult them. Lol.

I think you are entirely missing the point.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

[–]xyifer12 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are the 4th one I've seen post this.

Don't just copy and paste other people's posts, type your own stuff.

[–]TheHalfChubPrince 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lazy ass comment right here. Can't articulate a well thought out point? I know! I'll just copy and paste another user's comment. Lol.

[–]nodevon 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You know what might make the men's rights movement look like less of a joke? Dismissing "manspreading" as the silly non-issue it is rather than making a huge deal of anecdotal "girls do it too!!!!" hysteria

[–]tmone 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are entirely missing the point, idiot.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

Don't like it, get the fuck out.

[–]Meyright 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/06/12/madrid-introduces-campaign-to-combat-scourge-of-manspreading-on-city-buses.html

http://nypost.com/2015/01/14/subway-manspreading-ads-shame-bro-riders/

[–]nodevon -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, so just ignore it in your mind as a case of attempting to improve public transit etiquette. No big deal.

Using it as a perceived trump card to modern feminism just lowers the overall standard of discourse. If I were as concerned about men's "rights" as much as the people in this sub seems to be, I'd focus less on being anti-feminism and more on addressing specific, impactful miscarriages of justice like unfounded loss of custody or false rape accusations. I'd also acknowledge that it's possible for gender inequality to impact both genders without trying to shut the other side down, but what do I know.

[–]Meyright 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd focus less on being anti-feminism and more on addressing specific, impactful miscarriages of justice like unfounded loss of custody or false rape accusations.

You can focus on unequal custody laws AND mock unnecessarily, non-issue, sexist gendered transit "etiquette" pushed by feminist maniacs.

I'd also acknowledge that it's possible for gender inequality to impact both genders without trying to shut the other side down, but what do I know.

I don't know if you're being serious here, but there is only one gender discussion which is CONSTANTLY shut down and mischaracterized by feminists, and that is the discussion about mens rights and issues. There is no question about that. You have obviously no idea what you're talking about.

[–]nodevon 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but the mocking is making a caricature of yourselves. Done with this conversation.

[–]Chxo 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is also a microaggression as her crossed leg proudly proclaims my vagina is closed, and stop looking at it pervert! Even though in this situation most guys would be checking out her titties.

[–]Hayleycakes2009 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm so sorry that some women suck nowadays. Like I'm serious, I love this sub and pretty much agree with everything here and seeing this type of stuff pisses me off. It's okay for a woman, but if a man were to do it she'd ring him a new asshole for not "respecting space" or something ridiculous. Ugh..

[–]the_tolberone_lie 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They had no problem with manspreading when Bill Clinton did it.

[–]Ginkgopsida 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Just ask if you can sit there

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women can also just ask the men to give more space.

[–]Ginkgopsida 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course they can but it is also polite to be observant if somebody might want to sit there and is to shy to ask. Just show some mutuál respect.

[–]chambertlo -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No. Take your shit off the seat.

[–]Mac4491 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No.

It's more convenient for someone to have their shit right next to them where they can see it and it's safe rather than tucked away under their feet or whatever. This is a perfectly acceptable thing to do unless it becomes an inconvenience to someone else.

Just grow some fucking balls and ask "Excuse me, do you mind popping your stuff on the floor so I can sit there?"

If the person says anything other than something that doesn't mean "Yes, I'll do that for you." then they're an asshole.

If you presume that just because it's a woman doing it then they're a hypocrite because she's probably the first to complain of manspreading then you're the asshole.

This sub is getting worse and worse. It's less about men's rights and becoming more of a woman hating sub every day.

[–]snoopoopoop 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This has always been a woman hating sub.

[–]IAmCaptainDolphin -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly this. It saves space and is polite.

[–]Underwater_Karma 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So are men suddenly as terrified of talking to people on transit as women are?

If someone wants to sit down, I'm pretty sure they could just ask...no mater what gender they identify as.

[–]Fake_Credentials 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this how men want to fight for equality? With shitty posts like this. Let's take the high road.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't everyone do this? I don't want strangers sitting next to me...

[–]paperairplanerace 39 points40 points41 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Then don't take public transportation, like wtf

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

like, amagawd

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't, I'm talking about the odd time where I have to

[–]paperairplanerace 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then get the fuck over it and be around strangers like everyone else who takes public transportation. Grow up yo, sitting next to someone won't give you AIDS and you're fucking rude if you take up two seats on a bus or train that's more than half full.

[–]snoopoop 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Stfu pls

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go fuck yourself pls

[–]FourthMember 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You guys are being pathetic pussies again, try to stick to the things that matter. Lower your estrogen intake.

[–]tmone 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You are entirely missing the point, asshole.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

Don't like it, get the fuck out.

[–]FourthMember 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

meeyow don't scratch me

[–]Dr-Spacetime -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except I've never heard any actual person complain about man spreading. You guys complain about women complaining about man spreading more than women actually complain about it...

[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You've never heard of complaints? Lol. That's funny because there are literal laws about it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/08/europe/madrid-manspreading-transit-trnd/index.html

[–]wennsbrennt 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The bags aren't even the worst part? You can argue that she will move the bags if she's asked, but if there is someone sat opposite you - which there clearly is - then it's common sense to not cross your fucking legs like that, because you're both blocking anyone from sitting in the adjacent seat, and forcing the guy diagonally opposite you to stick his legs in the aisle causing a pain for him and everyone that walks past. Plus it's uncomfortable af idek why she's choosing to sit like that.

[–]electricsheepz 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Solution:

Place right butt cheek on edge of seat.

Slowly, but with purpose, slide butt cheek towards encroaching bag until both butt cheeks are on seat.

Take right leg and swing it over so that it touches but does not push the leg of the offender.

Cough loudly for 30-45 seconds. Blow your nose too, for good measure.

If she stays in her seat, she won't be leaning towards you anymore!

[–]Micolangello 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We actually have a biological reason to man spread. Sperm lasts longer the colder of its. That's why our balls hang outside our body. Spreading your legs helps keep it cool.

[–]03sje01 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I get really annoyed when women complain about manspreading, I don't know about other people but my balls hurt sooo fucking much when I close my legs.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What comics did you get

[–]Super-Finch 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Korvac Saga by the look of it.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yep, Secret Wars Korvac Saga.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm mostly a DC reader, are they worth getting into?

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Secret Wars stories? Not really for newcomers to Marvel: they're very lore heavy and require a decent amount of knowledge of older storylines and characters to get the most out of them.

The main story only fully makes sense to people who read the original Secret Wars, know about the majority of Marvel characters and story arcs and essentially read all of Jonathan Hickman and the Ultimate universe storylines.

I'd be happy to recommend some more accessible stories, though!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't mind getting into something different, if you have a good jumping on point,or some favorite arcs to reccomend. Do you read dc as well?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sure, it's terrifying but some women are known to respond to being politely asked to make room.

[–]shot-in-the-mouth -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, wymen will respond, but not fucking cishet white males! http://yourballsarenotthatbig.tumblr.com/

[–]boogswald 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

In the same regard that feminists who talk about "manspreading" are focused on something really insignificant, this post is just dumb. Why sink to this level? Manspreading is not a real issue in the world that anyone should care about, so let's not pretend this is an issue anyone should care about. My god, so much of /r/MensRights has nothing to do with Men's Rights, it's just petty anti-feminist bullshit.

"Excuse me, may I please sit here?"

[–]Drclaw411 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Sorry, no" (if he's ugly)

[–]boogswald 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Almost all people are not that shallow.

[–]Drclaw411 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Found the beautiful person.

[–]boogswald 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a dorky, lanky, normal guy. I get treated like a normal guy.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree with the message, but anyone who takes pictures like this is guaranteed to be a anti-social asshole.

[–]tmone 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

You don't even know what the fuck anti social means.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, because normal functioning adults take pictures of people without their consent on public transport and then upload it to the internet so they can complain about and make fun of their behavior.

[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So do you get this upset when the countless male crotch pictures are taken to perpetuate that "manspreading" is an actual problem?

Probably not. Oh and no, ya damned idiot. Taking pictures like this is not antisocial. Quit trivializing the condition.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So do you get this upset when the countless male crotch pictures are taken to perpetuate that "manspreading" is an actual problem?

Probably not.

wtf? What makes you think I don't find those just as bad? And I never said anything about there being a problem. People often have autistic and anti-social behaviors, we can't jail them for it.

Though places like France and Germany do for taking pictures like this, and I wouldn't mind seeing that done here.

[+]theoleslippydrip points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

"UMM its actually illegal to film me?? You dont have my consent!!" - every retard being filmed.

Turns out you dont need consent to film in public, especially when they are selfish assholes like this one in the picture.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You think legality determines what is socially acceptable and considered common courtesy?

[+]theoleslippydrip points 9 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

For the most part, yes. Yes i do. Taking an anonymous picture of a pair of legs taking up seats that others could use, (see: being an asshole), is not something I would ever think twice about being an issue. Only hypersensitive people online would attempt to find error in something like this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is nothing wrong with being socially retarded, but you should at least be self-aware enough to not make a fool out of yourself in the future.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cheers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How so?

[–]AgentOrangeMRA 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When a woman does it she is protecting herself from predators. /s

[–]AnorexicBuddha 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Man, this sub is garbage. Ho-lee-shit.

[–]tmone 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You are entirely missing the point, asshole.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

Don't like it, get the fuck out.

[–]AnorexicBuddha 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Way to prove the sub isn't garbage.

[–]boogswald 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What a waste of time. "Hey I can be just as excessive and reactionary as random tumblrinas! Take that feminists!"

Let's focus on real issues. Be the better person instead of sinking to someone else's level.

[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because pointing out how ridiculous the idea of shaming an entire gender by how they sit and how stupid the actual laws are against it is somehow sinking to their level a waste of time. /s

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ask her to move. If it gets akward, I'm sure she'll huff and puff and storm away angry. But who cares. Don't hog the space, woman.

[–]Quintrell 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Worse is when women sit in the aisle seat and put all their crap in the window seat. In a full bus sitting down requires asking a woman to move herself and her stuff. People are too polite for that.

[–]IAmCaptainDolphin 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do people put their bags on the seat next to them? Are you just being an asshole or do you not know it's rude?

Or is your ego so enormous you can't stand putting your bags on the floor?

[–]machingunwhhore 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First they attack us, then they steal our culture!!

[–]undersight 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is called being inconsiderate. It has nothing to do with gender. Posts like this are why people make fun of this subreddit.

[–]shot-in-the-mouth 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://yourballsarenotthatbig.tumblr.com/

"This is called being inconsiderate. It has nothing to do with gender. Posts like this are why people make fun of this subreddit tumblr."

[–]undersight 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh ok, so this subreddit is about sinking to Tumblr's level? Lol.

[–]handklap 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It has nothing to do with gender.

Feminists using the term manspreading and focusing exclusively on male behavior has nothing to do with gender?

[–]Vianns 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

God I hate this word and concept.... Even here in France this trend is becoming mainstream.

[–]Left_Brain_Train 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Buzzwords that can fuck off and stop wasting my time:

-Manspreading

-Cultural appropriation

-"x"-splaining (gotta be the most backhandedly hypocritical social phenomenon today. "We need social dialogue about 'x' as a problem," followed by, "No-no-no. You're just 'x'-splaining that way because you're 'x.' Let me lecture you instead, since you can't possibly have non-oppressive opinions. See? Dialogue!")

-Micro aggression (not entirely unsound in concept, except usually disastrous when used in real life)

-Problematic

-Alternative "x"/alt-anything

-Cuck

-Redpilled

-based

-fam

-dog breed portmanteaus

[–]Assassinationday 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

whats wrong with fam lol

[–]newscommentsreal 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I assume he is a racist.

loljk

[+]JordFord points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Those shoes look like the plastic bags I use to pick up my dog's shit.

[–]chambertlo -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would call it cuntforcing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem here is she feels too comfortable around you.

You need to work on your socially awkward/rapey vibe or something.

[–]Scizzler 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Move your legs over. Make her move. Or stop crying.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Am I crying?

[–]UDT22 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Soon it will be against the law to be male.

[–]RightIntoMyNoose 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh what the fuck

[–]Hammonkey -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck are you, as a man, sinking to snowflake levels of stupid petty shit?

Grow some balls, man up, and stop showing how butthurt you are over thier bullshit. The correct response as a man is to ignore them, not join in their toddler games.

[–]tmone 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Oh look. Another idiot from all who doesnt get it You are entirely missing the point.

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

Don't like it, get the fuck out.

[+]USA_ALPHA_MALE points 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

No, you guys are being fucking fags. A person crosses their legs to be more comfortable, when nobody is sitting next to them, and someone posted it here as some sort of offensive maneuver against all men.

Being petty is annoying regardless of what kind of shit you got going on between your legs.

[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Uhh...the picture shows someone using two seats because of her bags. No one is complaining about her crossing her legs. And "fags?" Jesus.

[–]Denaius 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

'Fags"?

Look, I get it. You find men sexually attractive - that's okay!! - the fact that you aren't comfortable with it yet is okay too, - everyone comes into their own in different ways.

I know its tough for you, but - if you can - try not to lash out using oddly pejorative terms from the dark ages, - once you've properly accepted your sexuality you'll feel really guilty about these sorts of comments, so it will help you out in the long term to stop using them now.

Peace & love brother.

[–]Meme_Policeman 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's oddly not the crossed legs part that is the issue, it's that their stuff is entirely contained on the seat.

[–]Hammonkey -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No i get it just fine, I just think OP is a whiney idiot. Complaining like a feminist is just sinking to their level and it's pathetic and disgusting. I feel it's necessary to point out that you and OP come off as beta bitches who dont deserve their man cards.

[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok. I feel like you didn't read my comment. So just in case....

Complaining about how stupid a concept like "manspreading" (and mansplaining, but that is for another thread) by showing that women are perfectly capable and willing to do it is a perfectly valid way of arguing a point.

[–]caz- -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Idiot from /r/all here. I thought men's rights was a cause that proponents actually wanted to convince the mainstream was important. If outsiders don't 'get' the posts they see reaching /r/all, then it seems like a perfect opportunity to politely educate rather than tell them basically to fuck off.

[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're going to mock the sub and it's users, yeah, gtfo.

[–]samuelk 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shaming tactic. Shit test. None of these are arguments and only reinforce OP's point. OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the social justice as they try to used every excuse to paint men as villains.

[–]DarthTyekanik 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

NYC subway is the worst about it

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would straight up sit next to her without a problem.

[–]Super-Finch 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Is this a scotrail train? Also that's Korvac saga right?

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Both correct!

[–]Arc4ne 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I make a point of politely asking people who do this to move, even if a free seat exists elsewhere.

[–]NoobuchadnezaR 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Careful or you'll get done for trying to take an upskirt photo

[–]sd4c 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Diet and exercise

[–]MOMICANTPOOP 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I delibratly choose to sit next to these people. I walk up and say. "Excuse me may I sit here?" I make and hold eye contact until they break the eye contact move thier stufd and I sit.

[–]SirPiffingsthwaite 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quick, someone call the SJW league...

[–]ianisalways 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

More importantly.. what books you got in that stack?

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Secret Wars Korvac Saga!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No seats on the bus, lady with her hand bag on the seat, guesture for her to move it and she rolls her eyes and tuts.

[–]Mr_Wilcox 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Upvote for ScotRail

[–]sennhauser 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fighting back against the evil white man one train ride at a time. What a strong woman.

[–]Mikerinokappachino 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't win the argument by sinking to their level.

[–]Miss_Tyrias 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's zero context for this photo, for all we can tell the rest of the car is empty and nobody needs a seat. Now if there was somebody clearly needing to sit down or there was somebody in the seat next to her and she had her shit all over them then you might have had a point but this is just pathetic.

[–]huoyuanjiaa 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad I don't really use public transportation.. I kind of want to trigger the people who actually get bothered by this.

[–]HowDoYouHearHeavy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When this generation are in retirement homes, the trendy word "cringe" will enter their mind and remind them their whole life was part of that discussion.

[–]VinSteele 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've always called it "ladyleaning".

[–]Alarid 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She must identify as a man

[–]Denaius 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've never understood why women are so confused by the man spreading thing anyway....

"Do you have testicles? - No? - thats why you don't spread your legs!"

[–]50PercentLies 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah but the patriarchy forces women to shop and have purses, so it's men's fault. Nothing to see here!

[–]Rethgil 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Never fails to amaze me how many feminist trolls this subject draws out. Must know it reveals the hypocrisy of feminism and they're desperate to shut it down.

To counter such rubbish, OP is simply calling out the hypocrisy of feminism over another issue, this time of 'man spreading' and how its one rule for them, another for men.

Only feminists are trying to make this post about 'why couldn't you sit somewhere else/why does it bother you what she did' etc.

Hypocrisy is the issue. Its the hallmark of feminism.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The 'there could be plenty of seats' argument is irrelevant: even if there were other empty seats, this person is still taking up lots of room.

[–]Goldblood4 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The real question is. Where the fuck is her pinky?

[+]Rogue_freeman -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Just me or is the image removed?'

Also, you can just ask for a seat, its really not that hard.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Missed the point.

[–]Rogue_freeman 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

the point was that women say that men manspread and this woman is "manspreading" with her bags, yes i got that point, you can still ask for a seat.

[–]Stripes1974 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The point of the picture wasn't about whether or not someone could ask her to make space for them to sit near her- the point of the picture is that women complain about "manspreading" and then this woman is doing that.

Mind you, we don't know much else. This woman may not even consider herself a [rabid] feminist, for all we know, so to choose her as an example to vilify, of what we men are being vilified for, may not be entirely appropriate.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, there are myriad reasons she could be doing this. The fact it's a woman doing so doesn't mean it should make a difference.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If her sex isn't an issue, why'd you post it in r/mensrights? Wouldn't r/mildlyinfuriating be more appropriate?

[–]Stripes1974 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't excusing her. I was merely pointing out that we don't know the whole situ, and to turn her into a villian without knowing is in a small way, no better than when women do it to us- can you say, "false rape accusation"??

In the main, I fully agree with you.

[–]poopmailman -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck she looks thick as hell tho

[–]ScarpaDiem 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh man, can't I get in on a coming up with a catchy name? How about... inconsiderate cunt?

[+]mochablendedfun -16 points-15 points-14 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Is this the sub that makes fun of feminism? I just wanna make sure before judging you for being exactly as petty as what you claim is ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. OP is just as fussy as the feminists he's complaining about. All this complaining is getting to be so tiresome.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What makes you say that?

[–]sennhauser -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think there are a lot more than one, for good reason.

[–]Mythandros -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would walk up and go "Excuse me. Can you move your stuff please?" Indicating I wanted to sit. If she didn't move her shit... I would sit on it.

[+]Snack_on_my_Flapjack -11 points-10 points-9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This post is fucking stupid and you should feel bad.

[–]Chucklebuck[S] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I kinda do.

[–]thepurpleumbrellas -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I honestly don't think man spreading is a huge issue (in my experience with public transit.) The worst is when people take the outside seat (so no one can sit next to them) when there are no spots left or when people don't give up their priority seating to those who need it. I know I personally will sometimes leave my bag next to me, until options are limited for those getting on. For me, as a lady, I feel safer doing so. I've had people sit next to me that have made me feel very uncomfortable. I'm not defending this woman, just sharing my experience.

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