Second billboard sign in Manchester UK

iainmf · 2020-01-23T00:29:58+00:00

Thread on the artist's other billboard "All men are dangerous"

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/es4jrl/billboard_sign_in_manchester_uk/

Edit:

You can report hate crimes online. The Manchester Police say it is important that hate incidents are reported even if they are not crimes.

Manchester Police:

A hate incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, alternative sub-culture (the way they dress or their lifestyle) or because they are transgender.

Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but it is equally important that these are reported and recorded by the police.

...

Incitement to hatred

The offence of incitement to hatred occurs when someone acts in a way that is threatening and intended to stir up hatred. That could be in words, pictures, videos, music, and includes information posted on websites.

Hate content may include:

messages calling for violence against a specific person or group

web pages that show pictures, videos or descriptions of violence against anyone due to their perceived differences

chat forums where people ask other people to commit hate crimes against a specific person or group

Gingerchaun · 2020-01-22T15:50:48+00:00

Report it as a hate incident.

Adhesiveduck · 2020-01-22T19:24:48+00:00

The Equality Act (2010) says sex is a protected characteristic. I would encourage anyone from the UK to go to the ASA and Clear Channel and report this. You should also complain (in writing) to Manchester City Council - ask them if they are OK having such an egregious "advert" on prominent display

If I had the money to spare I would honestly bring a civil suit. If it's not OK to make a sign saying "Jews horde money and they abuse it" how the fuck is an analogous statement about men (which is protected in the Equality Act) acceptable?

~~What street is this on?~~ Topps Tiles Salford, 2-3, Redrose Centre, Regent Road, Salford M5 3GR from /u/LickMyBruh

This is what I have sent to Clear Channel, and I have complained (in a similar vain) to the ASA.

I would invite you to look at this photo taken of one of your screens located at Topps Tiles Salford, 2-3, Redrose Centre, Regent Road, Salford M5 3GR: https://i.imgur.com/tvGZG7Y.png Sex is a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010, and although an argument of discrimination is not being made, this act and the principles laid out are used to define the Guidance published by the ASA. I believe your advert breaches CAP rule 4.9 and BCAP rule 4.14. Note that a context that is intended to be humorous is not acceptable under the rules set out under the ASA. I would like you to remove this advert immediately, and an apology issued and the proper internal procedures followed in finding out why such an egregious abuse of the rules was allowed to occur. I would like to be informed of the outcome of my complaint. You can reach me at my email address -- I have reported the advert to the ASA as I believe it is in violation of the rules set out.

Lethn · 2020-01-22T15:59:44+00:00

I love how only moments ago there were people actually defending this artist and making it out he was just trying to promote debate blah blah blah. He has every right to put this up there, but I also have every right to point out he's an anti-male cunt and a coward who is towing the party line and isn't a radical individual in the slightest.

I think from an artists' perspective my self being an indie games developer I am more insulted by his cowardice than everything else. People like him like to pretend they're being radical but they're actually doing the safest thing possible and attacking a group of people it is already completely safe to attack in this country.

This by the way is how I feel about religion, these same turds are perfectly fine with attacking Christians and mocking them but the moment Islam comes up? Utter silence, they are cowards and should be treated as such, I am fed up of these people thinking they can have any kind of power over me.

CellGel1 · 2020-01-22T17:19:54+00:00

I spoke with the ASA after seeing the first billboard posted here and discovered that the space was donated by Clear Channel UK. I encourage everyone here to send them a complaint demanding its removal: https://www.clearchannel.co.uk/contact.

Please be polite and objective if you do decide to participate. Challenge them to seriously consider how the message might affect the young boys and vulnerable men who come by it.

EDIT: I forgot to give the location:

Red Rose Centre, Regent Road, Salford M5 3GR, United Kingdom

You should also send a complaint to Manchester City Council:

[email protected]

Dogas-Z · 2020-01-22T15:46:43+00:00

Geez how come not a single person thought... hmmm what if we wrote the same thing about women. I mean like seriously it is always the same old thing "just swap the genders and see what the outrage is". Well it is scary how its simple to say but yet not completely accepted and then we have this bullshit happening. IDK but i get really scared by this.. anyone else?

furry8 · 2020-01-22T18:55:48+00:00

Manchester is the absolute worst part of the UK for male life expectancy...

http://blog.policy.manchester.ac.uk/posts/2016/10/life-on-the-line-life-expectancy-and-where-we-live/

According to UCAS, poor white men have the LOWEST probability of going to university of ANY demographic in the UK.

Why do they have this sign in such a deprived part of the UK?

IAmFireAndFireIsMe · 2020-01-22T19:25:39+00:00

You are allowed to complain about this to the council. Only needs a 100 complaints before it's shut off and an investigation launched.

They may turn it back on but if you keep pushing and complaining the council will just turn it off for good.

Masterchefpetyofficr · 2020-01-22T16:09:24+00:00

So do women, female leaders and monarchs were more likely to start wars, how is that ‘diplomatic’ in the sloghtest

RegumRegis · 2020-01-22T19:04:32+00:00

So, actual straight up hate speech against men now? Wow.

DoctorForesight · 2020-01-22T19:59:41+00:00

I'm glad I don't live in the UK.

blueorange22_ · 2020-01-22T16:48:18+00:00

This is literally propaganda and social brainwashing...this is like what you see 10 years before an absolute fascist state situation where men are truly de-humanized under law. Considering that women are now allowed to kill men and get away with it, it seems like we're already there.

HungryBrain1 · 2020-01-22T16:27:28+00:00

When women are given power they kill their kids, destroy marriage, and make themselves miserable.

LickMyBruh · 2020-01-22T19:09:50+00:00

Topps Tiles Salford, 2-3, Redrose Centre, Regent Road, Salford M5 3GR, United Kingdom. is this the location I'm just trying to make sure so I can report the right billboard? Or what should I report the location as

Namapint · 2020-01-22T23:04:48+00:00

Latest edit:

Based on the the link posted by iainmf above (to the other thread showing the other billboard), I agree it’s absolutely reasonable to assume it’s real, made by a man named Martin Firrell. OP, please accept my apologies. (And contrary to my previous idea, he is indeed getting media attention: https://www.creativereview.co.uk/martin-firrell-unveils-first-work-as-clear-channel-artist-in-residence/)

Older Edit [now retracted; see above]: I am not seeing this anywhere online except here. I do NOT wish to accuse anyone of trolling, but I cannot help but wonder at this point, honestly, if this is real or photoshop. I have searched both Duck Duck Go and Google. Nothing. Unless it just got put up and some media coverage (however small) is forthcoming. You’d think at least a few bloggers would say something, pro or con.

And regarding the paper on queens vs. kings and wars:

Thank you, Reddit users tmone and szymku, for providing links to an academic paper arguing that in early modern and modern Europe, queens were more likely than kings to start wars. Despite my concern of a possible retraction call (which happens) I have just noticed that the paper is from 2017, so it’s probably safe from the memory hole.

There is fortunately no pay wall. Here is a link directly to the PDF of the paper:

https://www.nber.org/papers/w23337.pdf

It’s 76 pages long. I plan to read it carefully and check what sort of methodology was employed and what reactions there have been (as a possible check upon my own confirmation bias).

In that vein, please indulge me as I play devil’s advocate. Assuming the numbers are correct, how might a feminist historical perspective be employed in an attempt to “justify“ (for want of a better term) the greater likelihood of a female monarch than male monarch using men (“boots on the ground”) as a proxy to commit violence?

Interpersonal violence analogy: one feminist response to the intimate partner violence research of Murray Straus (showing approximate gender symmetry in IPV) has been the claim that Straus’s Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS) supposedlay makes no distinction between levels of violence, e.g. a mild shove by a woman versus a push down the stairs by a man, and that *virtually all* female IPV is by definition self-defense. (Straus, Martin Fiebert, Donald Dutton, et al have effectively disputed this view; happy to provide links if desired.) So as to state-level mass violence (i.e. war), perhaps it has been / may be argued that the queens had to start wars as a kind of “preemptive self-defense” against foreign kings. In other words, a large scale version of what is argued by some feminists regarding the Duluth model and the CTS. I would be skeptical of such a view (assuming anyone would use it) Yet, is it plausible? If so, how could you prove it?

And let’s consider the situation of a queen in the Europe of this period. It is characterized by the rise of the modern nation-state, and in nearly every way it is a man’s game, from the monarch down to the rank-and-file: exploration, cartography, the advances of navigation and shipbuilding techniques (especially for those nations with expanding overseas empires - Portugal, Spain, the Netherlands, France, Britain). Lots of fighting, at times on the level of genocide. An ever-changing political map as territories are taken and lost, with the political element tied into the church-state fusion which characterized the earlier part of this period. Imagine you are born both female and in direct line for the throne, with a good chance of attaining it, say as a reigning queen (either single or with a non-king consort). Are there any particular difficulties you are going to face as compared to your male counterparts? Might such conditions make it more necessary to be aggressive in your foreign policy?

So, enough of devil’s advocacy for now. Coincidentally, there is a related and interesting historical description I happened to read yesterday, in Daniel J. Boorstin’s book The Discoverers. (I highly recommend it, unless you simply hate reading about history.) It regards Gerardus Mercator (1512-1594), he who developed the famous Mercator Projection on maps still in use today, and who lived in Europe in the period covered by the above mentioned academic paper:

“Louvain [present-day Leuven, Belgium], where Mercator lived and worked, was a hotbed of fanatacism and persecution. Only by good luck did he escape the fires of the auto da fé [‘act of faith’]. The Catholic regent Mary, queen dowager of Hungary, who then happened to rule Flanders, ordered that all heretics be executed, ‘care being only taken that the provinces were not entirely depopulated.’ In 1544 Mercator was caught in a roundup of suspected Lutherans. Of the forty-two alleged heretics arrested with Mercator, two were burned at the stake, two were buried alive, and one was beheaded. While all unrepentant heretics were were supposed to go to the stake, the humane regent Mary dictated that any who recanted be spared that torture. Instead, the men would be put to the sword, and the women buried alive. Mercator was imprisoned for some months, but the efforts of his parish priest finally secured his release.” (p. 274)

In addition to the higher percentage of queens than kings who started wars in early modern and modern Europe, it would be interesting to see how common it was for queens vs. kings to conduct such homicidal religious persecutions. In any case, Boorstin’s description demonstrates two things:

Unless you don’t consider the queen’s actions described above to be an abuse of power, it is shown that women in power are perfectly capable of such.
Violence by women with political power, just like their male counterparts, involves using masses of men as proxies. (I am also assuming that in all or most such persecutions, as in wars, men were the rulers’ proxies who physically committed the violence, but that is another possible point to investigate.)

In other words, it is questionable to argue that historically, political violence has been overwhelmingly male just because the “boots on the ground” consist of men.

For a more recent example of 2 above, see the bombing of Libya in 2011 urged strongly by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, over the objections of generals with actual combat experience who were concerned the region would be further destabilized; it was. Afterward, in a reference to Muammar Gaddafi, she joyfully exclaimed in an interview “We came, we saw, he died!” Whether or not one sees Gaddafi as deserving of what happened to him, it wasn’t only he who died. Dealing out death isn’t something an official should publicly express glee at. Thus I apparently annoyed a more senior Hillary-supporting colleague when I told her: “Hillary doesn’t own my vote.”

Thus, the sentiment expressed upon the billboard is one I would take issue with. He doesn’t say “certain men,” or “many men,” or “some men,” but rather “men.” If men *per se* were by definition abusers of power, I doubt if humanity would have survived as long as it has. It seems to me the view expressed is an example of uncritical thinking based in ideology rather than facts.

I infer that he wants to style himself as a subversive, edgy rebel. But I see him instead as, in effect, an advocate for the Establishment; this is because the blanket view of men he expresses has been enshrined as allegedly beyond the scope of reasoned debate, at least by some.

Pioustarcraft · 2020-01-22T19:46:38+00:00

As someone said : Freedom of expression gives him/her the right to express herself/himself.
I just can't help to think that if the same advert was "All women are gold diggers" or something like that, the outrage would be massive... the fact that there is no outrage with those is a good exemple that no one cares about sexism against men

furry8 · 2020-01-22T18:39:46+00:00

Imagine instead of gender it was another protected characteristic :

replace “men” with “muslims”

replace “men” with “jews”

And see how the far left would scream

Ody_ssey · 2020-01-22T15:57:51+00:00

When men hold power, a new IT company is born.

usrname001 · 2020-01-22T16:02:39+00:00

From his website: “Martin Firrell British, born Paris France. 1963 Martin Firrell is a French public artist who stimulates debate in public space to promote positive social change. He uses language to engage directly with the public with the aim of making the world more humane. His work has been summarised as 'art as debate'.” LOL

Evilcon21 · 2020-01-22T20:01:21+00:00

And how is the advertising standards allow this to be on?

EvilLothar · 2020-01-22T15:49:37+00:00

That's a strange way to talk about masterbation....

DIES-_-IRAE · 2020-01-22T17:44:10+00:00

They aren't even pretending anymore.

Keenin455 · 2020-01-22T19:42:54+00:00

"He was just starting a conversation."

This is yet another last refuge excuse for people defending the indefensible when they're not resorting to the "Incel" insult on reflex.

humlata · 2020-01-22T20:08:18+00:00

There's a whole load of feminist billboards like this by the same person.

FinallyOutOfThis · 2020-01-22T18:48:36+00:00

Why don’t we try to become what they want us to be once? Let’s see how it turns out. You want us to be abusive and aggressive? Sure thing.

polywave · 2020-01-22T18:50:13+00:00

But wait...there's more.

unluckieduckie · 2020-01-22T23:42:58+00:00

“When women hold power, they bastardize it.” But wait, that’s hate speech.

linkschode · 2020-01-22T21:00:29+00:00

What’s the exact address of this?

If someone gives it to me I’ll be reporting this as a hate incident first thing tomorrow morning

Namapint · 2020-01-22T21:09:47+00:00

I do agree with one point made a few times on this thread. The person who made this is not a rebel, but a rather boring conformist.

GuyWithTheStalker · 2020-01-22T20:56:07+00:00

Better:

Most People Who Seek Power Abuse Power.

brian_reddit_77 · 2020-01-22T22:55:28+00:00

Artists tend to be insufferable, pretentious cunts. This is just another example of that.

kingjohn1919 · 2020-01-23T01:03:44+00:00

The fuck is going on over there with this sexist hate speech???

SocialAssassin4Hire · 2020-01-22T16:14:52+00:00

Can you guys put up a billboard that says Islam is right about women?

Raunchy_Potato · 2020-01-22T18:46:08+00:00

Well, let's start thinking up anti-woman slogans to start putting on billboards. You know, to "promote discussion."

"She's always asking for it"
"Women are too emotional to make decisions"
"Women are meant to be in the home"
"Men are smarter than women"
"Women are the cause of most car accidents"
"Women ask for it by being flirty"
"Women don't work as hard as men"
"Women are emotionally unstable"

I'm sure there's a couple more misogynist bullet points we could think up. Scrape together some money, throw those slogans up in downtown, and see how women like it when they get talked about the way they talk about men.

LosreDorke · 2020-01-22T19:00:42+00:00

Feminist artist wants a debate? Fine.

“Islam is right about women.”

Discuss.

AdamChap · 2020-01-22T17:24:56+00:00

Call the police on it. Stand by it, and call 999.

zhivagoo · 2020-01-22T19:09:15+00:00

What is the background of that picture? Behind the text i mean, looks like a leg but super weird.

taoofmojo · 2020-01-22T20:11:06+00:00

Does anyone know the address of this billboard in manchester?

0mnica · 2020-01-22T20:15:14+00:00

I looked at his website, saw some of his other "art" billboards. He is a communist, can't respect anyone who hates on men and promotes a political ideology that has killed millions.

SirSausagePants · 2020-01-22T20:15:50+00:00

Can someone hack it, and replace the image with something else?

ColonelVirus · 2020-01-22T20:24:04+00:00

I mean... Look at the UK?

We gave women power twice. Thatcher and May.

Turned out really well for us.

21yeeet · 2020-01-22T22:24:18+00:00

i love how they say this shit but have no evidence to back it up

C2074579 · 2020-01-23T00:59:59+00:00

Abuse of power has no gender

2020-01-23T10:32:52+00:00

When men hold power ~~they abuse it~~ they build civilisations, nations, cities, homes etc, invent and improve, feed families and reach for the stars...

thegrandwizard1 · 2020-01-23T10:46:55+00:00

You're forgetting that sexism is allowed if it's against men. just like racism is allowed if it's against white people.

Mens_rights_matter2 · 2020-01-22T17:16:08+00:00

When only misogyny becomes a hate crime misandry becomes reaching for equality.

mgtowolf · 2020-01-22T16:17:41+00:00

If anyone put up such a billboard about women, there would be public outrage, and probably be vandalized beyond recognition within the hour.

Darth_Horseman · 2020-01-22T15:33:21+00:00

Throw a rock at it

Gordon-G · 2020-01-22T20:48:02+00:00

the UK and basically all the Euro zone cucked countries are beyond saving.. light the fuse, turn out the lights

KajaIsForeverAlone · 2020-01-22T21:18:39+00:00

When anyone holds power they abuse it

jackcos · 2020-01-22T21:22:12+00:00

There's also a billboard by that artist stating that "women make up half the population: 50% of the time the right person for a job must be a woman".

Which is a total logical fallacy that only makes sense if absolutely every person on the planet is suited for every job.

The right person for the job is the right person.

TeamLenin · 2020-01-22T21:47:53+00:00

I hope you guys in the UK aren’t falling for this shit. I’m pretty sure you guys know that this is a big steaming pile of horseshit.

Gotta watch out for those that ARE falling for it and wake their ass up!

RareNothing1 · 2020-01-22T23:28:37+00:00

Creating fear will make it worse. My thoughts have always been "Mass fear is the birthpoint of chaos."

rwp80 · 2020-01-23T01:01:39+00:00

How the fuck is this not counted as gender discrimination?!

This can’t be legal. The UK is a matriarchy 100%

Sir_Delicious · 2020-01-23T01:23:44+00:00

100% Bullshit. Anyone can abuse power regardless of gender.

SkylineDriftin · 2020-01-23T01:25:46+00:00

When humans have power, they abuse it

Just like this artist

PrettyChicken · 2020-01-23T02:36:05+00:00

This is disgusting and should not be allowed. I'll be putting a complaint in for you guys.

StinkyShellback · 2020-01-23T03:00:28+00:00

More like, when people hold power, they abuse it.

deaftoexcuses · 2020-01-23T03:10:40+00:00

Kind of reminds me of Germany's anti-Juden posters from the 30's and 40's.

AGuesthouseInBangkok · 2020-01-23T08:36:41+00:00

As an anarchist, I like the message.

All power corrupts. We should make government as small as possible, and give it as little lower as possible. The men who have control of your tax dollars will always spend it on things they like, which means that you have to earn money that you don't get to use or spend, which is obviously unfair.

Men as in human kind.

If they mean men as in males, and mean to imply that females do not abuse power, which I believe they do, then it's false, and against basic human decency.

I hope this was paid for by a crazy, private feminist group, and not the government, to my first point.

Mr_Crick84 · 2020-01-22T18:19:38+00:00

The UK is an absolute mess, No patriotism left in me

SocialAssassin4Hire · 2020-01-22T18:49:52+00:00

When women hold power they take half of everything.

MarmitTrysuer · 2020-01-22T19:48:56+00:00

England is the better UK.

2020-01-22T21:01:09+00:00

Inb4 "FeMiNiSM ISnT AbOuT HaTiNg MeN"

RivalPipe · 2020-01-22T21:23:19+00:00

I see that and I assume “Power” in the UK probably means “Remote Control” in the US. And, really, they may have a point. I’ll buy a new TV before my wife clicks it over to Ellen’s gameshow.

I’m kidding, of course. That’s an abhorrent billboard.

WarOfNoise · 2020-01-22T21:46:32+00:00

are these for real?

deludedprawn · 2020-01-22T21:55:49+00:00

How is this even legal?

brotherin45 · 2020-01-22T21:56:31+00:00

What is even on the billboard

Be_Memorable · 2020-01-22T21:58:04+00:00

First of all, WTF UK?!

n0tqu1tesane · 2020-01-22T21:58:39+00:00

My first thought wan this was a quote and 'men' meant mankind. Similar to 'absolute power corrupts absolutely'

But...

DowntownSpeed · 2020-01-23T00:00:15+00:00

Pathetic

rabel111 · 2020-01-23T00:51:53+00:00

Art as abuse.

This guy is famous for being a talentless moron who uses abuse to stimulate hate and diversive conflict.

It only serves to reveal the sexist culture of liberal art.

Vaporwave02 · 2020-01-23T01:10:05+00:00

UK is becoming a controlled POS country.

LOKSTED · 2020-01-23T01:37:06+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Firrell

Wikipedia page said that he promotes postive social change.

Can someone with good edit? I always get hit by the automatic revert bot

Sklushi · 2020-01-23T01:57:51+00:00

What the fuck

bilabrin · 2020-01-23T06:30:09+00:00

Wasn't the Manchester bomber a woman?

grandpa_stalin_37 · 2020-01-23T08:54:10+00:00

Seems legit. Just like these man abused their power... Martin Luther king Jhon f Kennedy Bill gates Warren buffet Jeff bezos And so on... Why do those people do those signs? What agenda could give this message good use?

vhisic · 2020-01-23T10:23:18+00:00

wish i had some power to abuse :(

ssaa6oo · 2020-01-23T10:29:19+00:00

The pendulum is almost as further left as it can get and it's gonna swing back hard. The Overton window will soon hit these people right in the face. It's the Weimar Republic all over again. The 2030s are gonna be a lot like the 1930s. History repeats itself.

OCDTEACHER · 2020-01-23T11:43:06+00:00

Actually, historically men in power actively tried to improve the living standard and, due to limited resources or competing interests, that sometimes involved war.

When women in power they commit psychological war and try and improve men :P

goodmod · 2020-01-24T00:52:28+00:00

This is a good post, but its title does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.

So please don't do it. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

In future, such posts may be removed.

When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.

NakedValhallaBoy · 2020-01-22T17:32:41+00:00

Jesus christ, what a world to live in. Shall we crowdfund a billboard saying women don't have any clue how to even use power when they have it?

usrname001 · 2020-01-22T16:06:51+00:00

Please somebody take this chump to court over gender discrimination, I will happily fund it.

turbulance4 · 2020-01-22T21:09:09+00:00

In both cases (and probably more to come) you could replace "men" with "humans." What they are saying explicitly is not wrong. Yes, men do abuse power. It's the implicit claim that is the problem, that women do not also abuse power.

carlsberg24 · 2020-01-22T18:13:37+00:00

UK is so cucked it should just paint a vagina over its flag.

Dr_E_Knievel · 2020-01-22T20:04:10+00:00

The fact that this is in Manchester actually adds up.

that city is a shithole of entitlement and homeless run the city center. it is headed towards San Francisco levels of filth.

Uzrathixius · 2020-01-22T20:24:17+00:00

But at least you're not speaking German, right guys?

xNOM · 2020-01-22T21:19:53+00:00

When women act like children, they make men do everything for them.

throwlaca · 2020-01-22T23:46:50+00:00

Burn it to the ground.

NerdGuyLol · 2020-01-22T16:17:09+00:00

Oh shit I live in Manchester. I throw a rock at that shit if I see it

NerdGuyLol · 2020-01-22T16:16:35+00:00

Throw a rock at it

Namapint · 2020-01-23T00:50:06+00:00

This is the only site I’ve seen this on.

No disrespect meant, but...Is this real? Or photoshop?

Edit: based on the the link posted by iainmf above (to the other thread showing the other billboard), I agree it’s real. http://www.martinfirrell.com/indexm.html

OP, please accept my apologies.

Edit: It went up in 2019, according to the billboard creator’s website. And apparently no media coverage.

Edit: Well, I was wrong that the guy is getting no media coverage. https://www.creativereview.co.uk/martin-firrell-unveils-first-work-as-clear-channel-artist-in-residence/

alphafreak54 · 2020-01-22T18:20:32+00:00

Me personally, I would never..

jakeinator21 · 2020-01-22T18:32:50+00:00

What are these images in the background of the billboard? I can't make sense of them.

Finboror · 2020-01-22T20:01:04+00:00

Of course I use my internal power, otherwise it'd be useless bruh

Namapint · 2020-01-22T21:03:48+00:00

I can’t seem to find any news items online about this billboard. Does anyone have a link?

mollie_anne_77 · 2020-01-22T21:15:24+00:00

That’s some bullshit. That’s straight out shameful.

concernedcaribou · 2020-01-22T21:51:43+00:00

What is in the background?

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iluvbigblackducks · 2020-01-22T22:25:11+00:00

kinda relevant

mcchanical · 2020-01-23T00:01:48+00:00

What the fuck Britain. Do I really need to consider leaving?

MrMorsley · 2020-01-23T00:23:27+00:00

What a load of shite. Report.

myprivateaccount12 · 2020-01-23T00:27:52+00:00

Yet here we are in a prosperous nation being led by men

roadmanshack · 2020-01-23T00:43:57+00:00

This doesn't represent all of manchester btw

barndoor101 · 2020-01-23T01:22:49+00:00

A57 Regent Road in Salford, ironically opposite the famous Salfords Lads Club.

SecondRealitySims · 2020-01-23T06:18:08+00:00

I love how people act like a ridiculous and objectifying statement like that is for debate. It’s not. It’s to reinforce the world view of a group of people and demean Men. It may not seem like it, but that can have an effect on people. Imagine if someone put up: “Sex makes you a Skanky Slut”.

What would there to debate on that? Its a horrible and objectifying statement that reinforces the view of some, and demeans Women that see it and can relate. It can lead them to question if they’re considered ‘sluts’ or ‘Skanks’ for having sex.

It’s not a perfect comparison. But I think the point is clear. If objectifying and demeaning statements like that wouldn’t be acceptable for women, why are they for men?

Roguta · 2020-01-23T06:39:25+00:00

So do women. What's their point? The problem is the character of the individual, not their sex.

Mar_Ci · 2020-01-23T06:55:05+00:00

Unlike when women hold power...oh, wait

EnricoLUccellatore · 2020-01-23T07:28:42+00:00

It's true, it's also true for women. Go anarchist!

SydneyGuy61 · 2020-01-23T08:15:06+00:00

Avoid Manchester it’s too woke!

THEN3LLI · 2020-01-23T09:33:12+00:00

Why is socially acceptable such billboard?

unseemlycad · 2020-01-23T09:35:27+00:00

Back projected projection. One suspects that the artist in question can’t help but be quite a bad person and based on his own failings has jumped to a conclusion about everybody else. He’s obviously never heard of Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi. What a tool.

TheGirlInYourCloset · 2020-01-23T10:26:42+00:00

Looks like this advertisement company is just one big troll. All their other shit is edgy as fuck too.

Ashtron · 2020-01-23T20:02:42+00:00

Glasgow too: https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/hard-hitting-gender-billboards-appear-15896177

Ashtron · 2020-01-23T20:05:12+00:00

he also has one that says "MEN ARE REALLY GREAT".

jdbsays · 2020-01-23T03:14:48+00:00

I would definitely support counter signs saying something like "when women hold power they are indecisive and give it back to men"

Criket · 2020-01-22T18:21:56+00:00

I wish that artist hell.

DreamDelving · 2020-01-27T16:08:56+00:00

Are you female?

Title	Second billboard sign in Manchester UK
Author	Sasha_
Upvotes	3265
Comments	262
Date	January 22, 2020 3:01 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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