Passport Ire

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2023-03-08T03:36:19+00:00

I think there's a difference in the places people go and for what purpose they go there. A woman or a man going on vacation and fucking guys/girls in Paris, Vienna, Madrid, etc. is fine. Have fun! But, for me, the issue is when people specifically go to countries that are poor and are trying to or hoping to leverage their (perceived) wealth and status as an American/Canadian/Westerner from a wealthy country. I'm from Eastern Europe, I've also lived in Asia for a decent amount of time, and I've had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting the type of guy who will try to act superior to you just because they're from the States. They're not great people to be around. And for the record, I think that women going over to poor countries looking to get attention and sex from the local men are on the same level of exploitative and creepy.

I also mentioned the purpose - someone going on a vacation and they happen to mess around with some locals or other tourists is different from the entire purpose of the trip being the fucking.

DoinIt989 · 2023-03-08T13:04:44+00:00

18-25 year old women who backpack through Europe might as well live in a different country than "passport bros". They are not the women complaining about guys who go to "DR", Colombia, Brazil, Ghana...

WYenginerdWY · 2023-03-08T09:01:09+00:00

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Impossible_You_8555 · 2023-03-08T18:44:06+00:00

You clearly have not been to central Europe

Sexually agressive they are not

As for Thailand its full of degeneracy

A better equivalent would be south America or Eastern Europe. And no one really cares if dudes go there.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2023-03-08T15:08:47+00:00

Most women aren’t sleeping around when they travel; that’s a man’s fantasy and if men want to travel more power to them. If that includes dating overseas go for it. I would however recommend men go sooner rather than later though since I doubt the local men will be as welcoming once they catch on to what’s going on. Every country has different laws and the police have access to different resources so don’t expect USA treatment and investigation technology if anything happens to you over there. I want to see men and women happy and if that means going overseas by all means go just remember sex starved local men are not going to see you in a friendly light.

Over all it’s the local men you have to actually worry about not the opinion of women in the west.

WYenginerdWY · 2023-03-08T20:22:46+00:00

The story of a woman aged 18-25 who backpacked through Europe for a summer to find herself is almost a cliche at this point, but it's no big deal.

A man talks about his month planned trip to Thailand though?

It's almost like you're intentionally misunderstanding the economic difference between Europe and Thailand......

Also, when a young American woman fucks a dude and leaves, not only does the dude get exactly what he wanted, he's not left with any lingering social issues that will hamper his long term happiness or ability to succeed in life.

Aggressive_Grand_897 · 2023-03-09T06:30:01+00:00

It’s because the American women think they’re superior to Asian and Latin American girls but when they see American guys willingly picking these women over American girls, it hurts their ego because, well, you’re basically telling someone who thinks they’re higher quality than someone else that they are not in fact any better or more desirable than a poor girl from Cambodia.

The other reason is control. Women want to control men and make them listen to their feminist bs. When men go overseas, they don’t come back to the west. They stay in Thailand or wherever forever. This makes western women mad because they realize that simply moving to another country changes an average guys dating game 10 fold. And on top of that , western women know in these countries that traditional gender roles and masculinity exist, and they don’t like the idea that western men can simply get on a plane and not have to abide by the feminist rules of America anymore.

MyLastBestChance · 2023-03-08T02:44:08+00:00

18-25 year old women backpacking through Europe are not likely to exploit child victims of sex trafficking, so there’s that 🤷‍♀️

https://theexodusroad.com/human-trafficking-in-thailand/

https://ecpat.org/story/trafficking-in-thailand-the-demand-fuels-child-trafficking-for-sexual-purposes/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/15/thailand-is-a-global-capital-of-illegal-sex-work/

https://igg-geo.org/?p=3034&lang=en

https://borgenproject.org/10-facts-about-human-trafficking-in-thailand/

herinquisition · 2023-03-08T21:51:49+00:00

My first guess would be that young girls are sex trafficked to foreign grown men far more than the other way around. It's a human rights issue and a common one. Also, women don't make content about hating everything about American men and how all American women should leave the states before they go do it. My friends and I went abroad to live in Europe for a year. Some went on to South Korea and China, etc. after that. American men didn't come up one second as a topic of frustration before we went as a reason for going. We went for the travel and the experience - not primarily to fuck guys (and some of us didn't fuck anyone for variety of reasons, while others did). I was drunk on the excitement of being independent in a new country and doing something fucking cool and wanting to learn the language. Women are less likely to go abroad for the main purpose of looking for a man, and more likely to just go enjoy a trip and happen to find some company. It's ironic that as the "man hating feminist" I don't have to be seething with hatred over men in my country to travel and enjoy other cultures, but the red pill manosphere can't keep American women out their mouths while "fleeing abroad." If it's better out there, go enjoy it then, bruh! You're still mad and spreading your hatred instead though, hmmm.

That's the funniest part about all this passport bro bs. They talk about American women as if we don't have men trying to fuck us everywhere we go, or like foreign guys don't come here and genuinely like and marry American girls. The marriage rates happen a little more with men but the difference isn't that large - shit is happening literally all the time. Plenty of foreign men love American girls, both for sex and for relationships/marriage. In major cities with significant diversity, you'll see it often. It's just funny to hear the bitter misogynists talk about their alternative reality where American women are unwashed beasts who lack attention and interest because, in their warped worldview, men only like the most docile wallflowers who may be more likely to be found in other cultures. Meanwhile dudes from all over come here or we go there and they hear some American girl laughing out loud, or being bold (stereotype), and just being different from what they know and they get mesmerized. It happens all the time. I just think the irony is funny.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-03-08T10:20:43+00:00

I've known both men and women who've gone across both mainland Europe and Asia. Nobody cared or else thought it was cool. The problem is when you start saying the people there are better than the shitty people at home and you're going to find a spouse/partner/hookup where you're "wanted" instead. And yep, you're going to get more side eyes for saying that and going somewhere exploitation and trafficking is more common.

y2kjanelle · 2023-03-08T12:39:05+00:00

You answered your own question already. Women go to backpack and find themselves and have fun. Sleeping with hot men is just a bonus, not the reason they go.

Men who go to Thailand don’t care about the culture or experience, they want to go to find women in more traditional and conservative/restrictive/less progressive countries so it’s easier to date or have sex.

Not to mention, on their way out, they spout horrific things about women in their own country. They already treat women badly in their own country just because they don’t fit their standard, but we’re all supposed to believe they magically become the perfect partner because they found an 18 year old virgin submissive Asian woman? Or a traditional woman they had to fly overseas for?…..yeah no.

Most men don’t need to go abroad to find love or have sex. There’s a specific American woman-hating type with bad personalities that choose to exploit another country’s culture because “the women are better”. They treat a country like a store where they can go and “woo/buy” women with American money and give them the American dream…like?? They separate them from their families and support systems..their culture..their country..? They “appreciate” the culture because the women are submissive and traditional yet all of them have complained about paying the bill, having to lead and provide, and fulfilling traditional duties, oh and of course, none of them know anything about actual culture in Thailand either.

Not to mention the fetishization and gross infantilization of Asian women (who repeatedly ask not to be seen that way). There’s a reason men chose Asian countries to go to even though there are lots of countries that aren’t progressive or are more conservative or traditional.

So I mean yeah pretty straightforward. Women go to explore another country, its culture, find themselves and happen to sleep with hot men while they’re there. Men specifically go to get sex and a relationship based on stereotypes of Asian women (typical of Americans though) and idealized” standards they’ve shat on in their own country…

Backas_Before_Work · 2023-03-08T04:36:28+00:00

For all the pretend concern for exploiting poor people, did you know that the raw materials for the battery in your smartphone was produced with modern day slave labor in the Congo?

I wonder how many of these concern-trolls would put their money where their mouths are and buy a cheap flip phone instead of the latest iPhone or Android every year or so! Nah! Thought so!

The concern isn't for poor exploited people, it's really for themselves and holding onto the advantages they have.

Women have a HUGE amount of power in the dating market that is FAR greater and far easier than climbing the corporate ladder now that the glass ceiling only exists for men.

They don't want this going viral. They don't want the men they feel entitled to, deciding that the grass is greener on another continent. This shit has to be shut down and the only way they know how to do this is with shaming language.

"You are exploiting poor women"

"You are loser who can't handle strong independent women"

"You are just getting used for a green card"

and on and on..

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-03-08T10:20:37+00:00

It's quite simple, western society is gynocentric. Anything a man does that is not seen as being in the best interest of western women will be seen as bad.

OmoshiroiKudamono · 2023-03-08T12:56:18+00:00

There are two types of passport bros.

1 - The one who has his stuff together. He was mostly an NPC to women. He is stable, but knows that it is NOT worth getting married in the west. If he tries to date in the US, he will be seen as "beta bucks."

2 - The men who have cash to spend. They also have their stuff together. How the hell else can they take MONTH(s) off of work? That and the expenses as well. They are just there for sex.

But lets DISPEL the myths. What is written below are the TRUTHS.

MOST PPB's (99%) who fit into #2 want it consentual with ADULTS.
PPBs (99%) are NOT a "bum" "broke" or "deadbeat." How the F else would they AFFORD it anyway?
The first PPB was stuck in friendzone purgatory anyway.
Once a man (#1) reaches his 30's, it is SLIM PICKINGS. He worked his ass off and for what? A alpha widow? A girl with 3 kids and an unknown baby daddy number? A girl who views him as a settleDOWN(grade) "trophy" husband. (The trophy being a participation trophy). A "career" woman who is a CAREER woman. There is NOTHING wrong with climbing the ladder and getting the PhD. Its just that she is a CAREER woman. She won't have enough time for him.
If (#1) goes to a developing country, he seeks to LIVE in C country for the rest of his life. He KNOWS NOT to bring his wife to the US. HOWEVER, he will NOT treat his wife as a "slave."
(#1) has NO PROBLEMS of providing and spoiling his wife. Unlike his options in the west, his foreign wife will at least be GRATEFUL. She will be GENUINELY happy to be with him.
(#1) has NO PROBLEMS of being "checked" by MALE FAMILY MEMBERS of his intended wife.

MxMaster9907 · 2023-03-09T00:01:05+00:00

Strange, I’ve met plenty of men to go to fuck in Europe. I mean getting sex in Europe is so incredibly easy, almost everyone can do it really.

Europe is a very sex positive place, they are very open about it, they aren’t judgmental (most times). People in America just aren’t that great at sex because they don’t really practice a lot. Why women wouldn’t want to go to a place where they feel more comfortable about having sex?

Willow-girl · 2023-03-09T13:15:18+00:00

Sexually aggressive men who know how to move their hips

It must be a full moon or something ... this forum is simply FILLED with gems today!

HighestTierMaslow · 2023-03-08T03:27:28+00:00

Wow, men are just bitter women get to do the same thing that men have gotten away with for centuries and in fact been praised for it.

nastyfella · 2023-03-08T06:34:02+00:00

Cliche ? I’ve never even heard of that

Hosj_Karp · 2023-03-09T09:26:15+00:00

The male equivalent to "backpacking through europe as an excuse to fuck a lot of foreign guys you meet at bars and clubs" is not "going to thailand to fuck impoverished trafficked underage prostitutes" its "backpacking through europe as an excuse to fuck a lot of foreign girls you meet at bars and clubs". Literally, no one cares if a young man does that. They'll cheer him on the same way they do his female counterpart.

Notsonewguy7 · 2023-03-08T23:14:14+00:00

In my experience westerners don't self analyze they never look at their own behaviors and try to figure out why they have the opinions that they have or where biases come from the presume that there are theories are correct unless convinced by an outsider but they never come to a conclusion contrary to their first conclusion on their own.

2023-03-08T13:12:39+00:00

Because people are by nature pretty in tune with our animal nature, and guys cheating natural selection by preying on third world economically poor women is basically pretty heinous to MOST men (let alone women). That's why you have SO many guys in the west who are basically at the ends of their ropes sexually, but many just won't go to Asia on principle.

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amy_mighty_travels · 2023-03-13T08:35:12+00:00

I agree, traveling can be a great way to experience other cultures. Personally, I've had some incredible experiences overseas, whether it was sharing a beer with locals in a rural village in Europe or learning how to salsa in South America. The experiences of travel go beyond the physical attributes of the local people.

katarinamightytravel · 2023-03-13T08:45:13+00:00

I think it’s important to recognize that men and women travel for different reasons. As someone who’s been around the world, I’ve seen men seeking out exotic experiences and women seeking out romantic ones. I think it’s important to take a closer look at why people travel and how it impacts their lives.

Title	Passport Ire
Author	reeearnakedchoke
Upvotes	39
Comments	200
Date	March 8, 2023 12:42 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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