Single Parenthood as a factor in the current dating market situation.

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NJFlowerchild · 2024-10-03T15:30:18+00:00

If the statement is true, does that mean that we all agree that the presence of a father figure is crucial in a child's development, thus highlighting that women filing for divorce do it at the cost of their children's well-being?

There's 0 reason for a father to not be involved after a divorce. Men don't file for custody. Less than 10% of divorce custody goes to court. Men choose to not be involved. It's not a mother's job to force a man to be a parent.

toasterchild · 2024-10-03T15:41:46+00:00

Why would a woman divorcing mean that the father doesn't play an active role in the child's development? Wouldn't the father if he was a good father be asking for 5050? You can be a very involved parent if you aren't living with or fucking the other parent.

apresonly · 2024-10-03T15:50:53+00:00

It sounds like you’re saying men should stop abandoning their kids.

In the us it is extremely hard to keep a bio parent from their kid.

And no it’s not healthy for a kid to see his dad abusing his mom. Why did you even ask? Google “adverse childhood experiences”.

Healthy married parents > coparents who get along > fighting married parents

Marriage or cohabitation is not required for men to parent their own fucking children.

SaBahRub · 2024-10-03T15:32:23+00:00

I’ve heard the opposite rationalization, that lacking a dad makes men hate themselves and venerate women, causing nice guys and simps

Smells like armchair psychology BS either way

VehicleMother8643 · 2024-10-03T15:37:36+00:00

the presence of a father figure is crucial in a child's development, thus highlighting that women filing for divorce do it at the cost of their children's well-being?

Weird, my parents divorced, and my father didn’t disappear in a puff of smoke…

Solondthewookiee · 2024-10-03T16:02:26+00:00

If the above statement is true, can we agree that women in general and single mothers specifically lack in their ability to provide proper upbringing for their children, definitely their boys, possibly also girls?

I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's pretty well established that children do better with both parents.

If the statement is true, does that mean that we all agree that the presence of a father figure is crucial in a child's development, thus highlighting that women filing for divorce do it at the cost of their children's well-being?

Nope. You can be a present father without being married to the mother.

If the statement is true, does that imply that even in abusive or loveless marriages the presence of father figure, no matter how lacking in his abilities, has a higher net positive effect on children's development than no father figure at all?

No. Abusive parents have a detrimental effect on children as well.

krackedy · 2024-10-03T15:31:59+00:00

You'd need a way to determine which is worse for a kid:

No father figure (or step father)

Or

Miserable mother who is unable to properly parent because she's in an abusive or toxic marriage, and the kid growing up seeing the toxicity.

You can't assume the first scenario is worse without evidence.

Are there studies showing whether a shitty dad or no dad is worse? That's another question that needs to be answered.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2024-10-03T15:56:10+00:00

1: yes, we can deduce that that women can't do the job of a mother and father as well as a mother and father can.

2: we can agree that the precence of the father if extremely important. He can still be present after divorce though, so although not ideal, divorce doesn't cause the issue of fatherlessness.

3: no. There is npthing to suggest that a man's precence can never be a net negative. That's not what the results show.

leosandlattes · 2024-10-03T18:23:20+00:00

OP, you are telling on yourself by saying that getting divorced means the father will abandon the child, lol.

Plenty of people get divorced and co-parent very well. The father has an active role in his child’s life despite not having a romantic relationship with his ex. Why you would assume otherwise is beyond me, unless you think all men would engage in this behavior (which is obviously untrue).

ThatBitchA · 2024-10-03T16:11:22+00:00

Men abandon their sons, and still, women are at fault.

At no point, OP, do you call out the father who abandoned their child.

The entire post is about how the woman failed.

We should be holding men accountable for abandoning the children they created. Instead of blaming the women.

GrandpaDallas · 2024-10-03T20:01:29+00:00

If the above statement is true, can we agree that women in general and single mothers specifically lack in their ability to provide proper upbringing for their children, definitely their boys, possibly also girls?

If it were universally true, then perhaps! But it's not, so no. I know a few guys who great up with single moms and are absolute golden dudes.

If the statement is true, does that mean that we all agree that the presence of a father figure is crucial in a child's development

I agree already that having two parents present is an objectively good thing, if anything to allow for a more well-run household. Parenting is difficult solo.

thus highlighting that women filing for divorce do it at the cost of their children's well-being?

GREATLY depends on the situation. A good friend of mine got divorced from her husband to the great benefit of her children's well-being. The dude was bipolar and refusing his medication, and has started losing his gd mind.

If the statement is true, does that imply that even in abusive or loveless marriages the presence of father figure, no matter how lacking in his abilities, has a higher net positive effect on children's development than no father figure at all?

Absolutely, 100%, full stop, NO

TSquaredRecovers · 2024-10-03T20:59:19+00:00

Here’s the thing: Parents do not need to be married or even romantically coupled in order for both parents to be involved in their child’s life. Case in point: My husband and I are in the process of divorce (due to his affair), and despite this, he will still be an equally present and involved father in our son’s life. He will have our son half of the time. Most states now have default 50/50 custody in place, unless there is documented abuse or one of the parents simply doesn’t want shared responsibility of the child/children.

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-10-03T15:41:27+00:00

Red pilling content I’ve seen is directed towards guys that want lots of dates, have harems, and then choose the type of partner they want. It’s a general want many guys have, has little to do with single parent households.

Would you like to be successful, attractive, and have sex easily with many beautiful women? Nah I’m good I have a dad, that makes no sense.

manic-cat_core · 2024-10-03T15:56:36+00:00

Conclusion: Since women are not that important in the development of children, child caring should be a male job + Only responsible men should be given the right to reproduce

HeartTheHero · 2024-10-03T15:28:37+00:00

Father figure isn’t needed, this is just copium for trying to cover up men being utter trash because given the choice they’ll choose the path of least resistance

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a_minty_fart · 2024-10-04T01:15:41+00:00

A lack of father figure causes men to grow up with daddy issues and consequently view women in a negative light, this making them more prone to becoming red pill.

This is wrong on its face. A lack of a father figure leads to blue pill thinking due to an abundance of female influence. Women don't want men red pilled because red pilled men are less likely to satisfy the female dating strategy (maximizing resources from as many men as possible while minimizing sexual output).

Men become red pilled from their interactions with women and comparing their outcomes with the outcomes they were told they'd get for playing in the blue-pilled construct.

S0yslut · 2024-10-04T04:44:28+00:00

can we agree that women in general and single mothers specifically lack in their ability to provide proper upbringing for their children, definitely their boys, possibly also girls?

No we cannot. This is just your bias showing. Men that have negative experiences with women might turn to the red pill. I’d believe that. Idk why you’d want to turn around it around as if women are shitty parents when they are dealt shitty hands post divorce and we know criminality and poverty are also linked. It’s the lack of the father that caused issues with women, not the presence of the mother.. The dad didn’t stick around so they didn’t have a masculine role model. Please explain why that is the mom’s fault.

we all agree that the presence of a father figure is crucial in a child’s development, thus highlighting that women filing for divorce do it at the cost of their children’s well-being?

I don’t agree with your misogyny but yes I’d agree with this statement. People used to sacrifice themselves for their kids now they sacrifice their kids for themselves.

If the statement is true, does that imply that even in abusive or loveless marriages the presence of father figure, no matter how lacking in his abilities, has a higher net positive effect on children’s development than no father figure at all?

Oh that’s crazy this lead to now women have to stay if they are being abused. Do you really need to be told abusive parents can fuck up kids?

Artistic_Speech_1965 · 2024-10-04T09:38:05+00:00

I agree with the general idea but there are some extravagant claims.

Yes, a single parent household will hardly produce healthy children. But you can't extrapolate to all women in general
Yes both parent are needed to produce a good future for the children. But there are cases where a divorce is BETTER than keeping a destroyed family
Did you reread what you wrote ? You know how one toxic individual can have an horrible impact in a group. It's even worse if it is a father figure that must lead a family. A nation with a bad leader is doomed

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-10-03T19:20:05+00:00

a divorcee is not the same thing as a single mom. children of divorce more often than not have an active father with some custody ans involvement. single moms are generally hoid or juggalo types who were never married and the fathers aren't very involved

Cunnin_Linguists · 2024-10-03T20:04:34+00:00

I grew up with a very young single mother, who rotated from hyper masculine man to hypermasculine man as boyfriends. I'm very confident it has shaped my view of redpill. As well as intentionally trying to be the proverbial 'nice guy' when I first started dating and seeing how much women hated it.

ArtifactFan65 · 2024-10-03T23:34:52+00:00

Nobody cares about the child's development including women. People just have kids for their own selfish reasons. They could care less if they end up with daddy issues.

Live_Guidance7199 · 2024-10-03T19:24:49+00:00

Red pill? Look at crime rates of the children of single mothers - they blow way past red pill and into violent animals without a male role model.

No-Rough-7390 · 2024-10-03T15:55:19+00:00

It also causes women to, in a longtime relationship, seek men she can control.

Wholeheartedly disagree with the RP opinion, I grew up very much BP into young adulthood. Experience and observing behavior is what changed my mind

OtPayOkerSmay · 2024-10-03T17:50:57+00:00

You're looking at it all wrong.

Boys raised by single mothers don't view women in a negative light... They view them in too positive of a light; at least until they get chewed up and spit out by the women they date or orbit.

The single mothers, in a lot of situations, raise their boys to be opposites of their fathers, so in a sense they raise them to be unappealing to women.

These poor souls end up being the niceguys that pedestalize women and get friendzoned. Their interactions and failures with women because of how they were raised to view women (ie: as goddesses made to worship) may lead to them becoming jaded and overly critical of women - so you're half right there that the consequence of being raised by a single mother can be viewing women in a negative light, but it's not daddy issues causing this.

No-Rough-7390 · 2024-10-03T18:59:06+00:00

Most of this stuff comes from who is being designated to father children in the first place and the conditions under which it is happening.

You fix that, you fix a large portion of the problem.

In terms of boys, finding them mentors would be valuable. And I’m not talking about a revolving door of boyfriends/stepfathers.

To #1, women cannot raise a boy to become a man alone just like men cannot raise a girl to become a woman alone.

Handsome_Goose · 2024-10-04T00:42:55+00:00

A lack of father figure causes men to grow up with daddy issues and consequently view women in a negative light, this making them more prone to becoming red pill.

I kinda disagree with this. Lack of father may very well be not the cause, but a consequence of a shitty mother. Whether she was a terrible partner or a terrible picker, there could never be a father in the first place.

And now the child's upbringing is in the hands of a shitty adult who likely needs a decade of being parented herself.

Unable_Evidence_4028 · 2024-10-03T17:22:40+00:00

A lack of father figure causes men to grow up with daddy issues and consequently view women in a negative light, this making them more prone to becoming red pill.

Nah, it is just that any family requires functional adults to work out, and unfortunately, most single moms, and moms in general are not functional adults. At any point they could become good parents, work on their mental health and give responsibilities as one should. They just don't want to causing these people have issues with authority, mental health and self control.

Equal7Drive · 2024-10-03T21:14:08+00:00

Children of single mothers perform worse in life in just about every single thing compared to children of single fathers.

It really makes me wonder about the negative effects on society from having women be the primary parent and more importantly, having almost exclusively women as teachers up until college.

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