Women having a somewhat honest discussion about dating mid to late 30s

HolyGourdofJerusalem · 2022-01-27T15:29:44+00:00

funny how a couple of people critique others, dismissing it as "red pill shit"

easy to dismiss what one doesn't care to acknowledge - the reality that men are attracted to youth and beauty, and an older man with the means to attract both won't settle for someone his age, ESPECIALLY if he wants to raise a family

couldnotjointhedance · 2022-01-27T15:04:08+00:00

Sorry for the somewhat long form, there was just so much unbelievably good (and actually honest) stuff. The best part of it was all of the older women coming dangerously close to the truth and then getting "warned" about it.

Then you have all the younger late 20s women coming in who absolutely refuse to accept any of this wisdom because they are still hot and will be hot forever and men will always be chasing after them.

FarFromAverage7866 · 2022-01-27T15:59:33+00:00

Lack of economically attractive men is the number one reason of decline in marriage. Literally studies show lack of beta buxxers is the number 1 cause of collapse in marriage 🤣🤣🤣.

The guy who majority of women want, (who has it all) doesn't stay around. Why? Because he has tons of options and women instinctively know this, and will be on their best behavior to be with this man. But eventually when they realize, this guy is the "player" they then will settle with someone who has money and is a "safe option", but they will never be truly attracted to him. Why? Because majority of them are alpha widowed.

In college/uni parties, a lot of very good looking men are getting laid by the end of the night. They don't have to take her out on expensive dinners, shower with fake praises and gifts etc. That's the long term billy boys job. Men must understand, the guy women really want she will not make him go through all the hoops and hurdles to get her. She will take her panties off right away, when he read her signals.

In summary, by the time women want an "economically attractive man" is because the "physically attractive men" won't settle with them. So the economically attractive man is the "second best" and "safe option" simply put.

DoDo_01 · 2022-01-27T17:59:36+00:00

I love how they seethe at the idea of men dating younger women

Joaquino7997 · 2022-01-27T15:38:59+00:00

Based on what I've read, it looks like PetSmart is getting ready to make a fortune in 2022 and beyond on these leftover women...

Chiliresident · 2022-01-27T16:14:44+00:00

Their bitterness just seeps through the comments. “We can’t admit that men were right about our window of opportunity for marriage. we must defend delaying commitment at all costs until WE decide!” As always younger women will ignore these women and consider them losers and unwanted until they reach their age and the cycle repeats. It’s sad but is the result of a degenerate culture that conditions young girls to be whores for hawt guys until they’re no longer hot. These soon to hit the wall gals used to be able to stick the landing with a naive beta with cash but these guys have wised up and are walking away. Invest in senior women nursing homes they will be a lucrative business venture in the future.

Rimeheart · 2022-01-27T15:47:14+00:00

Whew, proof plenty of men are still invisible to them even when they claim hopelessness.

Aldabruzzo · 2022-01-27T16:39:23+00:00

I find posts like this to be incredibly useful for translation skills. When doing so, you must look at not only what's being said, but what's NOT being said. You must also look for the usual euphemisms and womanese.

takeaways:

--Women do not want to admit basic facts, no matter how much evidence exists to establish those facts. Women will avoid and ignore those facts even when faced with irrefutable overwhelming evidence and even when they have no choice but to acknowledge the existence of the facts.

Example: women being told to stay in unsatisfying relationship because of severe relationship options is dismissed as "red pill shit".

--women filter everything through their feelings. Facts, circumstances, other people, and situations are always evaluated based on how a woman feels about them. Decisions are made based on feelings, not on concrete facts and circumstances. The efficacy and moral correctness of courses of action are assessed on how they make women feel, not how well they will work or whether they will serve certain other objectives.

The lack of self reflection and honest self evaluation is just astonishing.

--women rarely accept any responsibility for their own outcomes. A woman's situation is always someone else's fault. If her marriage broke up, it's always the husband's fault. (witness the woman whose husband left her, but it was "for the best" because he was an addict and had all other kinds of problems. Not one bit of self reflection in there about what her part in the marriage's failure was).

I always want to ask these women: "So what is your responsibility here?"

--if a relationship is to end, it is always, always because the man is at fault and always because he is not meeting the woman's wants and needs. In WomanWorld, relationship failure is always a result of the man's faults, foibles, and failures.

--a woman over 35 can easily get pretty much any relationship situation they want, except marriage. If a woman wants remarriage, she will have to either (a) be above average in physical attractiveness; or (b) lower her standards substantially.

These women have to admit that either (a) they just aren't attractive enough for the men they want; and/or (b) if they want marriage they will have to settle very deeply.

That's why these women are where they are. They are unattractive. They don't have sufficient relationship skills. They don't qualify for the men they want. Or, they have to settle more than they want to to get what they want.

--these women all think they can still date like they're 23 years old and childless. They all still think they're as attractive as they were at their peaks.

--these women really beleive they can't get husbands because men their age are allegedly trying to date and marry women in their 20s. "These men SHOULD be dating women their own age!" So - it's men's fault that these women cannot get husbands. These women are single and unmarried and dissatisfied with their lives, and .... it's men's fault.

My theory on this is that women can build around 85% of the bridge, but just cannot bring themselves to complete the bridge and get themselves all the way to the logical conclusions they need to reach. Guys: I'm over 50 years old. I know a lot, A LOT, of divorced women and women who have remarried after divorce. Here's what is almost universally true:

1) These women always have some glaring problem that causes their perpetual singleness. Either it's unresolved mental/emotional issues; or very poor relationship skills; or an extreme inability to self-evaluate and self-reflect. If a woman has made it to 30 without any man asking her to marry him, something went very, very wrong somewhere.

2) If a woman wants remarriage (and most do), they have to be either (a) above average physical attractiveness, or (b) they have to settle very deeply, deeper than they did for their first marriages.

3) These women can easily get anything they want short of marriage. They can easily get sex partners and can still get sex from very attractive men. But they want marriage because that's where the status and security is. Remarriage means a legal claim on their husbands' income and resources. That's primarily why they want it.

meerita · 2022-01-27T16:54:04+00:00

Within the years I've learned that we men don't know how much great our position is. Any woman you've met that is not married, with a child and in an established relationship is damaged good. The good woman over 30 without damage is practically a unicorn, the exception nowadays.

And yes, it is possible, but as a man, I like to think more in terms of probability than a possibility.

Our position is the best: we don't have to sacrifice for any woman, just for the younger, inexperienced, and least damaged ones.

BTW, these women never realize they're already hit the wall.

Loud_Read1414 · 2022-01-27T16:57:19+00:00

We are entering an age in which there will be a large number of highly resentful shipwrecked women around on whom reality will snap back at like the crack of a whip. The outcomes of this are not yet clear, but I doubt it's good news.

WeRAllOnThisBlessedD · 2022-01-27T18:42:24+00:00

Jesus Christ. Some highlights:

Left column, first panel

it feels like time is running out

It feels like it because it is running out. This woman is 37 years old and she’s still still thinking she’ll have kids. Not thinking of the fact that she’ll be in her 50s still raising kids when her friends that got wifed up early are finally getting to relax. She wants kids so she can fit in and so she can get her Instagram likes.

Maybe I’m the problem

So close. So very very close. She hasn’t accepted this yet, but maybe one day she will.

Second panel

I gave up on dating and I’m having a baby on my own this year.

So she’s setting her child up for a world of pain. She wants this baby so she make Instagram posts about how hard she’s working and oh isn’t everyone so proud of me and she’ll get flooded with likes. Then will come the time when she posts about how it’s girls night out because mama needs a break. It’ll start out as once every few months, then once a month, then once a week, until she gives up and starts drinking alone at home while her child continues to be raised by the TV and YouTube. But at least her IG followers will think she’s a #girlboss.

Bottom panel

I would give anything to go back to my first love

Yeah well, too bad so sad. Living with the consequences of our actions is something men have to deal with all the time, it’s extremely rare for a woman to experience this. Hopefully her first love met someone actually good for him, he’s successful, and this bimbo is nothing more than a faded memory.

Second column

First panel

I haven’t started dating again yet I don’t believe it is as bad

I always love how these women try to convince themselves that they’re not miserable. They’ll make sure to take the best photos to post on IG when she’s alone in her apartment so her followers will know that she doesn’t need a man to be happy. Of course she’ll crop out the empty wine bottles and other clutter.

Bottom panel

Those men should be seeking out women around their age as suitable partners

Hilarious. If you read this and take it on the surface your reaction is “who does she think she is saying what a man should do?” but read between the lines. She’s not telling men what they should do. She’s crying that she missed her chance. She’s realizing (but at the same time, not internalizing) the fact she’s past her prime. So, of course, none of this is her fault for making the stupid decisions she made in her 20s. It’s men’s fault for not picking her.

All of this is a result of feminism. Women burned their bras and marched in the streets for this shit, and they got it. Now they’re more miserable than ever.

kapriece · 2022-01-27T19:28:22+00:00

I like other men were ignored in HS. I have no hard feelings about it. The women chased older men and some got married right after HS. Years later and a bunch of kids I get the "hey big head" messages on FB. SMH. I know some of y'all can relate. A whole offensive line in my DMs after 30. The guys they were with all failures and I'm doing very well. No thank you. You won't hit a buzzer beater on me.

Bob_and_Virginia · 2022-01-27T16:59:49+00:00

Q: Is it true that "there are plenty of fish in the sea"?

A: Not when a whale shows up. Fish just scatter.

biccat · 2022-01-27T19:44:58+00:00

"red pill shit"

TRP isn't about beliefs.

It's about opening your eyes and seeing the world as it is, not as it should be.

SirLoose12 · 2022-01-27T15:56:14+00:00

They see the window closing. They know the logic behind the red pill. They confirm TRP by what they experience....

"But, I'm not haaaaaaaappy."

LandscapeClear1630 · 2022-01-27T22:12:19+00:00

That last reply: "... men SHOULD be seeking out women their age"

Dude, the level of entitlement is off the fucking charts!!

Qwesterly · 2022-01-27T20:05:31+00:00

I really like following that sub. I can't post there anymore, because I said something redpilled out of kindness to try to help a lady understand how her motivations were very natural for most women, and explained the man angle and what motivates men. I got posting privileges removed there for that, but I still follow the group.

And I think it's been healthy. They are, for the most part, not mean people - they're just really oblivious to the fact that they're all going through the same thing right now, and really in denial about how men view them. They also make it difficult to gain the male perspective when they silence men. That's really counterproductive, but I think they're more interested in venting and getting validation than growing, changing and healing.

I'm left wing, but listen to Rogan podcasts. I'm red pilled but follow that sub. You have to get out behind the lines if you want to learn enough to be able to influence people with a whole different world view than yours, and that means sitting in their shoes for a while and trying to feel what makes them feel what they feel. Once you reach an understanding, you can change hearts and minds, sometimes. Only listening to points of view that validate your own opinions is entropic.

sleepyweaselisawake · 2022-01-27T20:43:34+00:00

"Dangerously close to red pill rhetoric."

Even when the truth of TRP is staring them in the face they try to suppress the narrative.

ess2019 · 2022-01-27T16:09:08+00:00

next time please just do slides

All-Access- · 2022-01-27T18:47:23+00:00

Gotta love that momentum swing that happens around 30. They have been in control of the game their entire lives up until that point and they can't fathom not being in control of it.

Also funny how its always "he unmatched me" Maybe try getting off you ass ladies and putting some effort into meeting someone. I've never heard "that guy i volunteer at the SPCA with unmatched me" or "That guy in my church group unmatched me" but instead its everyone elses fault for her using a hook up app and getting used for hook ups.

_No-Waifu-No-Laifu_ · 2022-01-27T19:45:56+00:00

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CentralAdmin · 2022-01-27T22:33:34+00:00

Ha! Red Pill called this shit years ago.

A bunch of single women/future cat ladies who would lament their poor choices and wonder where the good men are.

The millennial women scoffed at the thought. They were in their late 20s and thought the good times would never end. They called the men losers for not being good enough.

They still haven't realised they are the losers. I think one said she accepted she would be single for life. The rest are wrestling with the idea that they fucked up and, surprisingly, it might not be men's fault. Except like one who said men should be willing to settle for women their age, but, hypocritically, women should never settle for less than what they want.

It is offensive to women to have to compromise for men's benefit but men are expected to compromise for women's benefit. When men treat women how women treat men it is like oppression to them.

Oh how the turntables...

asdf333aza · 2022-01-28T00:49:30+00:00

"Dating women 10 years younger". We warned them, they wouldn't listen. Your looks are so you can snag a man young. Don't be mad at younger women for not making the same mistakes you made.

upsidedownbackwards · 2022-01-28T01:21:14+00:00

Reasons why women above 30 aren't finding men their age:

Their beauty and fertility are well on their way out.

Guys that old have all been either been burned by, or had someone close to them burned by women.

They started saying the quiet part loud with beta bux. It's no longer subtle at all.

Their standards are still WAY too high.

Most guys don't want to be old dads. Having your kid graduate college when you're 60 isn't all that appealing.

Guys have established themselves alone. They've had their living space, their bathroom, their hobbies, their foods for a long time at this point. Pretty set in our ways. Someone is going to have to really offer something special for us to have someone coming into our lives and changing all that. They have to bring a lot to the table to get past that.

At 40 86% of women have had a child. Unless you're part of the 14% you're not standing a chance of a relationship. Child free is one thing, but raising someone else's kid is not something most guys want to do.

By that age they're damaged. Most of us are a little bit, but because women use emotion in so much more of their lives it's far more amplified.

We are going to be compared to every other man in their life. We need the best attributes of every guy they've been with before and none of the faults. "Uhg, JERRRY used to leave the toilet seat up". Hell, you'll be compared to the best features of her FRIENDS relationships.

They're realizing they want what they can't have so their entitlement skyrockets.

CarpAndTunnel · 2022-01-27T16:15:12+00:00

We need to silence these hate filled misogynists. How dare they spew this vile hate speech myhts against women.

Daman_1985 · 2022-01-27T19:12:12+00:00

They are seeing the truth, but they are denying it.

There is nothing wrong in the fact to have a single life, I think it's better that than to stay on a bad relationship.

Which I find surreal, and another double standard, it's a lot of the comments on the image are people that decided to follow their own path and focus on a single life (the concept sounds familiar?). If they do that it's good, if we do that it's bad. As always.

Nesfan888 · 2022-01-27T15:56:20+00:00

Damn many of these sound like my mother

JohnnySkidmarx · 2022-01-27T21:45:52+00:00

Many of the comments in that thread had me shaking my head laughing. This goes especially for the ones that wanted to sow their wild oats and now feel regret on kicking a good man to the curb. Zero sympathy for them.

empatheticapathetic · 2022-01-27T19:37:59+00:00

I guess it's called the redpill for a reason.

thisisnotyourconcern · 2022-01-27T21:19:43+00:00

100 people like a post where a woman goes on to state she's having a child on her own.

Insanity, absolute fucking insanity.

DonDuarte · 2022-01-28T02:01:15+00:00

Depressing for them. Young women tend to treat young men like easily replaceable shit. Even some of those in the comments saying "I'm considering breaking up but..."

Bitch, break up if you are unhappy and fuck off that man's life. He doesn't deserve being treated by your fake love while you consider his replacement.

Nowadays people don't have respect.

NoonTimeHoopsMVP · 2022-01-27T20:59:35+00:00

That same poster keeps whining about red pill shit but doesn't offer a counterpoint.

So why should I dismiss the red pill? There is no viable rebuttal.

cryptothrow2 · 2022-01-27T18:50:18+00:00

Note the complaints around age. When I was younger, the more attractive women were clear with me that they preferred older men. Sometimes 10+ years older. This is since when I was 13.

Toaster224 · 2022-01-27T22:35:14+00:00

Love it when they end up with a solution that basically involves begging older men to date them. There's no value proposition, no argument in favor of it, they literally have nothing other than to post passive aggressive shit calling everyone a pedophile or shaming younger women who date up.

anthologyxxviii · 2022-01-27T21:50:02+00:00

Yeah when women wait too long and have too many options then we all lose. I'm almost mid-30's and not actively looking anymore besides sex. Inviting a woman into my heart doesn't feel comfortable anymore because they can't be trusted to no change their feelings, IME.

Hostile-Bip0d · 2022-01-27T23:59:39+00:00

Have you ever noticed how aggressive women are when they are when they talk about relationships, it's like a spoiled brats meeting complaining that their mom wouldn't buy them the new 5k dollars smartphone.

GundamZero83 · 2022-01-28T02:04:16+00:00

Wife and I got together at 23, and started having kids, pair bonding be a thing (almost 40 now)

Saianna · 2022-01-28T02:15:52+00:00

I love the last one. Blame everyone and everything. EVEN THAT ROCK I PASSED BY 5 MINUTES AGO!111... But not me!

Old men? that's definitely some kind of conspiracy of younger girls trying to make my life more miserable by liking older men! Definitely!

xD

But.. Somber tone here.. Imagine they have all this trouble now, while they ignored all normal guys, while chasing after those turbo-chads for most of their lives. Now they get to experience the feel of being excluded from love and relationship and.. ain't that rosy now, ain't it? I wish i could laugh in their faces.. Am i bad person?

Cristoff13 · 2022-01-28T09:49:19+00:00

They claim all men their own age aren't interested or only want casual sex. There are many men their own age who would be interested in a relationship. They are invisible to her of course.

This reminds me of the time I went on a woman-focused forum and argued, nicely as I could, that men are mainly attracted to youth, and this is grounded in biology. Not all men can or will pursue younger women though.

This seemed like common sense to me, but seemed to drive a couple of ladies nuts. I vaguely remember their counter-arguments:

"Surely most guys can't be like that?"
"There must be plenty of good men who don't care about women's age."
"How can you claim this is 'biology' when there are plenty of infertile young women who can easily get boyfriends?"
"Does this mean when a man's having sex with me he'll be fantasizing about an 18-year old?"
"Aren't you implying all men are pe[very bad word]s?"

By this point I decided I was better off just lurking and had stopped commenting.

LateralThinker13 · 2022-01-27T23:18:15+00:00

LOL "Red Pill Rhetoric" about hitting the wall? That's hilarious. It's not rhetoric, ladies, it's demonstrable fact, as evidenced by your own words.

Royal-Owl-353 · 2022-01-27T19:43:54+00:00

Hey... maybe there’s something to the red pill fellas...

Euphoric-Cycle1688 · 2022-01-28T00:27:05+00:00

I don't understand, I thought women don't want sex (as men generally do) so that their husband sticks around, but it seems they all messed up for lustful reasons

on the other hand I'm aware that women chase Tyrones for the tingles (she said she got punched lmao)

Griever114 · 2022-01-28T03:24:37+00:00

More red pills than a pharmacy.

SoulKeen · 2022-01-27T15:41:51+00:00

Love it ... lmao

Bob_and_Virginia · 2022-01-27T17:20:14+00:00

For the one who says that the train has left for those around their 30s, it's not over, honey! She could always just hop on The Ho Train! Choo choo! Happy railing.....or rather, getting railed, in her case!

justaguyinbrooklyn · 2022-01-27T19:35:08+00:00

doesn't matter if the cunt is 25 or 45, the same delusions. morons, and I bet they are all chubby.

AmbitiousHornet · 2022-01-27T21:58:57+00:00

Lots of laughs with this one and I particularly like the very last comment. A an older male, and I am trying to be kind, let's just say that the mileage is very high if we talk about the traditional 4-year age-gap. I rarely meet a woman in that age-gap that I would have any interest in. Let's just say that they're packed for a very long cruise, if you take my meaning. Even women 20-years younger than me present unresolved issues. My mileage is fairly low and my portfolio would exceed that of most any woman within 20-years of my age. My current passion is not women, it's motorcycles and I may throw a watercraft into the collection, they are pleased to share my company and they don't talk back.

maruadventurer · 2022-01-27T22:09:04+00:00

37 and wants to settle down and have kids. That freight train left the station a decade ago.

Vespasians · 2022-01-28T00:03:59+00:00

People think these are just outliers... The median age in the us and uk is 39 and 53% of them are married. It's too late for the majorty of women who aren't married (the median age of marrige for women is 28)

Jokes aside this is the stuff of nightmares for civilisation.

Gaiinahat · 2022-01-28T02:47:38+00:00

I feel bad for the dude who don't know it's coming. Just having this discussion you know she's already decided to drop the hammer. It's just a matter of when.

upsidedownbackwards · 2022-01-28T00:05:27+00:00

So they went through their whole lives picking and choosing men. But now that men want to make sure their a good fit they don't have time for that.

kidruhil · 2022-01-27T22:31:43+00:00

My God, these hoes have truly forsaken thee.

_Remember_me_not_ · 2022-01-28T08:17:20+00:00

It's funny, how they try to ignore the reality and cite a few rare examples of unfortunate men getting caught up in the cougar trap and also, try to blame young women who go for older men; I mean why would any sensible young girl want a dependable, stable, maybe rich and successful older men, I wonder.

PhantasyBoy · 2022-01-27T23:38:34+00:00

Just go out with a 50 year old guy!

LVL50JustThisGuy · 2022-01-28T01:39:08+00:00

THAT was the laugh I needed, today!
~Raises IPS~

I Salute You, Good Sir!

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2022-01-28T03:31:33+00:00

🤭To see women in their late 30's and 40's still chasing the tingles.

coke501 · 2022-01-28T07:46:36+00:00

hitting a wall at 35

At 35 it'd be the 3rd or 4th time most women crashed into it.

There's exceptionally few women that haven't hit the wall at least once by 35.

[EDIT]

Also:

Those men should be seeking women around their age

Shit out of luck finding a man looking for an old hag, huh? [/EDIT]

pukipukie · 2022-01-28T08:51:33+00:00

Lul... Cope and sethee DG leftover expired wahhhmen... I'm in my 30's and 1000% sure ain't dating girl in my age bracket sweet 23~25 is my go too brackets...that's what happen for the "never settle for less" type and too freaking picky waaahhmen and muh exploration bullcrap aka riding the CC till old and prune type

Ok-Adeptness4906 · 2022-01-30T13:43:19+00:00

Everyone who gets married settles. Yes, most of us would prefer a Sophia Vergara look-alike with an IQ of 170, and several billion $$$ in the bank - but realistically we know that ain't gonna happen. So if we get married, we settle.

asdf333aza · 2022-01-28T00:48:29+00:00

Love how so many of them realized THEY ARE THE PROBLEM!!!

Fosho907 · 2022-01-28T02:07:08+00:00

Thank you 🙏 time to hop off the pedestal.

DarthBroker · 2022-01-28T02:25:26+00:00

lol i love to see it

waveformcollapse · 2022-01-29T04:30:44+00:00

so much Herpes gathered in one linguistic location

ATHdelphinos · 2022-01-29T09:16:42+00:00

37 is already too late for her.

thedukeinc · 2022-01-31T03:23:48+00:00

A woman says “I need my partner to be atleast 6’ height, 6 figure salary, 6” peen”- People accept it as mere ‘preferences’ When a man dates a younger woman, he is creepy, he is grooming, he is taking advantage of etc etc. Wow!!

Denserthancake · 2022-01-27T23:18:21+00:00

Honesty I’m grateful that I’ve seen to have found a woman my age (like, not even two months younger) who wants to start a family well before 25, it definitely sounds better than just milling around at bars for a decade.

Richard-Long · 2022-01-28T06:38:12+00:00

It's almost like their seeing the fault of their own ways now lmao

SnakeEyeskid · 2022-01-28T08:17:47+00:00

One of my favorite posts for sure. Very well compiled to highlight so many aspects of reality and the people who both struggle and denies it!

Rayzor_debiker · 2022-01-29T19:20:53+00:00

This is such a good read. Haha.

I (33M) have a FWB and she (37F and SINGLE MOM of 3 KIDS) has been pouty lately. She leaves my messages on read and barely talks to me. She wants me to commit but i dont want to and she knows it.

Sometimes i want to just straight up tell her that I'm never going to commit and she missed the commitment train when she was on the CC before we met.

cuggwy · 2022-01-29T23:47:41+00:00

The one wishing she could return to her first love actually made me feel sorry for her. She is self aware of the mistakes she made (a rare occurrence) and now lives a life of regret.

Dunkman83 · 2022-02-01T22:54:32+00:00

i love this song🥳

Quarterpipe_Quincy · 2022-02-13T16:50:11+00:00

This red pill gold

Iambeejsmit · 2022-01-28T08:51:59+00:00

Honestly this just kind of depressed me to read

Women having a somewhat honest discussion about dating mid to late 30s

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Title	Women having a somewhat honest discussion about dating mid to late 30s
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Date	January 27, 2022 3:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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