Women are fine with sexism… as long as it benefits them, says new study.

aaarrrggh · 2013-10-22T17:14:31+00:00

Sexism that benefits women?

I thought that kind of thing was called "privilege".

girlwriteswhat · 2013-10-22T17:41:49+00:00

'This is an example of how benevolent sexism is an insidious set of ideas which appear to exploit "niceness" to encourage women to hold more sexist beliefs.'

haha what

femdelusion · 2013-10-22T17:24:15+00:00

I'm not really sure about this research. Better link here.

The researchers found a sense of entitlement in women was associated with stronger endorsement of benevolent sexism.

To me, this is a conceptual entailment. What is a 'sense of entitlement in women' if not inclusive of accepting benevolent sexism? It's merely 'entitlement' carried over into the relationship sphere. (Thus, it's a bit like announcing that there's a correlation between bachelors and being unmarried).

I suppose I'd need to see the research itself, but it looks a bit rubbish from the reporting.

Number357 · 2013-10-22T19:46:37+00:00

Virtually every feminist woman I've ever met still openly enforces sexism in sex and dating. To their credit, at least half of them do think women should pay as often as men. But when it comes to men being expected to make the first move, take all of the initiative, be the more assertive one, etc... feminist women are just as sexist as traditionalists, and they still refuse to date any guy who expects her to meet him halfway and treat him like an equal.

saint2e · 2013-10-22T16:26:15+00:00

New study from the Institute of Stuff We Already Knew.

carchamp1 · 2013-10-22T18:31:29+00:00

And this is frankly why it has been, and will continue to be, so hard for men's and father's groups to make progress. From my experience some women certainly believe in shared parenting post divorce FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S KIDS. Not for their own. Give up physical time? And "child" support? And the power this brings over your ex? Yah right.

CrackHeadRodeo · 2013-10-22T23:03:14+00:00

Daily Mail, eh.

nlakes · 2013-10-23T03:06:26+00:00

Those surveyed overwhelming agreed that “Women, compared to men, tend to have a superior moral sensibility.”

The just can't stop fingering themselves to this self-congratulatory nonsense can they?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-10-23T13:58:56+00:00

Anyone who is knowledgeable and honest about feminism has known this for years.

Maintaining positive sexism (it's just called privilege when it benefits men) while eliminating negative sexism (which is just called patriarchy when it harms men) is the basis of modern feminism.

A woman is just as good as any man, we need a minimum 50% female CEOs!

Gasp, you hit a woman?!?!? That's so much worse than when a man is hit by a woman regardless of actual physical damage caused because women are delicate flowers to be protected.

/ok they don't actually say that. They'll start ranting about historical discrepencies and how until 2012 it was legal literally everywhere for a man to beat his wife therefore through a gyno-historic-marxist-feminist analysis it is wronger to hurt women than to hurt men because feelings and misogyny!

stuffZACKlikes · 2013-10-22T20:08:01+00:00

A feminist facebook friend I had posted something about getting a discount on a rug for being a girl and kissing the salesman on the cheek or something. I commented something to the effect of "inequality, it's only ok when it's in your favor". Notice I said I had a feminist facebook friend.

Daemonicus · 2013-10-22T20:02:20+00:00

Problem right at the beginning...

Hostile, also known as misogyny, encompasses those who see women as second class and those who think women are intellectually inferior to men as well as other obviously sexist standpoints.

vs

Benevolent sexism, meanwhile, is the term used to describe the actions of those men and women who believe females depend on their male partners for everything from money to guidance and find it difficult to exist independently.

So... It's only hostile when it's against women aka misogyny. But benevolent applies to men and women.

2013-10-22T21:05:54+00:00

Hate to say it but the Daily Mail is the most unreliable British newspaper there is. Still, the study makes sense.

Baulan · 2013-10-22T19:45:27+00:00

Finally, an article that allows me to be as sexist as i want!

I've waited for the day to come when i can find a woman who is willing to let me pay her bills, raise her kids from another marriage, and do physically demanding stuff for her!

/s

Ma99ie · 2013-10-22T17:47:38+00:00

Shocking.

junoguten · 2013-10-22T20:12:36+00:00

And most african americans and hispanics are in favour of affirmative action, while most white and east asians are against, says the last gallup poll on the topic. People will generally vote for what's in their own personal favour.

caius_iulius_caesar · 2013-10-22T16:58:50+00:00

The comments on the Daily Mail at the bottom of the article are reassuring reading.

Kirkayak · 2013-10-22T19:44:38+00:00

Strategy unto plenty (no more, no less).

ahora · 2013-10-23T01:21:19+00:00

Also, water is wet.

ithinkmynameismoose · 2013-10-23T03:34:24+00:00

I agree this is probably true but I'd like to see the study in a different publication than the Daily Mail... (For those who don't know, the Daily Mail is crap and widely known as such in the UK.)

Sagemanx · 2013-10-23T05:23:26+00:00

Duh.... That's called human behavior...

Kaderpy · 2013-10-23T08:34:51+00:00

Oh you didn't know? This is the basis of modern feminism.

gmcalabr · 2013-10-23T15:25:28+00:00

I always liked when women treat themselves like a prize; like sex is a reward for being good/obedient, like their bodies are something they can take away as a punishment, like they deserve preferential treatment in order to be had. Yet the moment men treat a woman like a prize, an object, like something they won, men are pigs who objectify women. Women objectify women too. It's never ok, not for benefits nor for losses.

EDITS: clarity/grammer

hfads · 2013-10-22T22:55:06+00:00

In other news, all people are found to be ok with anything that benefits them.

rafajafar · 2013-10-22T17:11:20+00:00

Daily Mail is not a credible news outlet.

2013-10-23T00:13:48+00:00

As a scientist (in another field), I have access to these publications. I looked into the original source on this one and another one on sexism. The ones using the ambivalent sexism index (ASI) to me are destined to find false positives. It asks questions like "should women be cherished and protected?" without controlling with the question "should men be cherished and protected?". Apparently it's an accepted method in the field, but I don't see how. Maybe someone in the field can come along and provide some input?

Anyway, from my interpretation, this research is rubbish, as well as any research uses the ASI. If it's research on sexism opinions, check for it.

EDIT: spelling, grammar

Pecanpig · 2013-10-23T00:11:08+00:00

Should be more along the lines of "People are greedy."

2013-10-22T21:17:52+00:00

The Daily mail: Most of there stories one should question. However when they are reporting on research not done by the DM then there maybe an element of truth in it.

HOWEVER: The Daily mail goes out of their way to stir up a gender war. Next week there will be an aricle demeaning or criticising man in some way. They have articles intentionally to make the genders fall out.

ch00d · 2013-10-22T22:36:00+00:00

Did this really need a study?

Endless_Summer · 2013-10-22T18:31:25+00:00

So you're telling me some women are selfish and greedy, just like some men? Shocking!

gsettle · 2013-10-23T01:42:16+00:00

Human nature always wins.

Hydris · 2013-10-23T15:30:34+00:00

My dog likes bacon.

I'm sorry i thought we were stating facts that aren't shocking at all.

natethesnake32 · 2013-10-23T22:31:46+00:00

Who wouldn't prefer benevolent sexism to hostile sexism?! If people wanted to give me free stuff for having a penis, that would be fine with me, and clearly preferable to people beating me up for being male. The whole premise of this study seems pretty silly.

Midday21 · 2013-10-22T19:40:17+00:00

All I can say is no shit.

Rhythm825 · 2013-10-22T19:58:17+00:00

In other news, man has landed on the moon.

Electroverted · 2013-10-22T23:03:47+00:00

Quit with the Daily Mail please

whiteguycash · 2013-10-23T06:23:33+00:00

Lets not generalize. we know that not all women are fine with sexism as long as it benefits them.

RoyalKai · 2013-10-23T08:30:35+00:00

All people like things that benefit them and don't like things that hurt them. This isn't anything new.

vermooten · 2013-10-22T21:26:39+00:00

Fuck the Daily Mail - rightwing nutzoids who will print anything to support their fucked-up world view.

DOWNVOTE this shit.

Personage1 · 2013-10-22T21:05:54+00:00

A high sense of entitlement — a core facet of narcissism — disposes women to internalize patriarchal beliefs, such as that women need to be protected by men or that women are naturally good caretakers

So when a woman feels entitled she is more approving of benevolent sexism. That would make

Women are fine with sexism… as long as it benefits them, says new study.

dishonest unless you believed that women tend to feel entitled.

nihilist_nancy · 2013-10-22T23:27:57+00:00

Shocking news!

2013-10-22T23:46:32+00:00

Wow. Isn't this what we've been noticing all along? It's good to see some hard numbers. I would like to see that survey on a larger scale.

methcamp · 2013-10-23T00:13:44+00:00

"affirmative action"

Noel_S_Jytemotiv · 2013-10-23T05:49:14+00:00

you can replace blacks and racism with that statement as well

Noel_S_Jytemotiv · 2013-10-23T07:47:23+00:00

It's ABSOLUTELY laughable that a study would be required to figure this out.

If there's ONE single absolute about feminism it's this.

If, somehow, women were no longer able to eschew sexism when it benefited them feminism would disappear overnight.

KingOfEggsAndBacon · 2013-10-22T17:11:17+00:00

Also, gras is green.

imnotgoodwithnames · 2013-10-22T22:03:47+00:00

If you were to post a Daily Mail article in just about any other subreddit, you would be downvoted, ignored, or the top comment will call you out. A couple people called OP out, but they aren't the top comment as is the norm.

SickDick69 · 2013-10-23T02:53:32+00:00

Yeah no shit. Men would be too. It's how humans work. This sub really needs to stop reaching so hard all the time.

2013-10-23T08:55:45+00:00

Hey now we shouldn't have to resort to the daily mail. Im confused why so many people take it seriously here....

Bubuloo · 2013-10-23T11:04:35+00:00

Aa much as I agree some women are like this the Daily Mail is NOT somewhere I would be getting my news and information.

nihilist_nancy · 2013-10-23T01:52:04+00:00

wow not a very nice article

Kaderpy · 2013-10-22T20:08:41+00:00

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