Pornography taints men

OutOfOranges · 2024-05-12T16:16:08+00:00

Removed for bad behavior by OP in the comments

HolyCopeAmoly · 2024-05-12T00:16:53+00:00

The crux of the issue here is atleast 50% of heterosexual woman are just as down and dirty as men. To say strictly men want to engage in porn acts in a relationship is extremely disingenuous. Especially gen z woman, they are much more sexually open than other generations, but again men bad woman good.

crownofthestars · 2024-05-12T00:29:05+00:00

They wont respect a modest woman sexual boundaries because they ll be constantly pressuring her to sleep with them and wont give her any security whatsoever, they ll get mad that she refuses to put out after 3 months or a year or as long as it takes, they dont value women beyond the sexual favours they can get from them.

What does this have to do with porn? I think men should watch less porn for other reasons, but I reckon it has to do more with the nature of modern dating, dating apps and maybe some of the more recent gender tensions in the 2010s that led to some average men thinking they gotta treat the modern woman with contempt.

I don't watch much porn these days, actually I don't watch at all anymore. But when I did, I never pressured women into sex because my mom raised me to be considerate of women. I'm hardly pure of mind after the porn I've seen online, but I'm not gonna force a woman to do anything she doesn't like because it's not in me. Don't blame porn, if men do this, they just want to treat women this way and will do it anyways even without porn.

rma5690 · 2024-05-12T00:06:14+00:00

Your post has so many assertions without any empirical evidence to support any of them that it's impossible to engage with.

You essentially took nearly every single bad thing that could possibly happen and associated it with something that is cosumed at least occasionally by nearly every single person. I don't even disagree that porn is bad, but this is such a horrifically malformed position.

SilentFroggy · 2024-05-12T00:14:00+00:00

It is in the best interest of women who are virgin by choice or have strict sexual boundaries and high standards and are unhappy with the current dating climate to avoid men who consume porn for anything serious,

Maybe men would be more motivated to do nofap if those women exists.

NJFlowerchild · 2024-05-12T00:22:01+00:00

Why do you feel the need to assign them virtues, thought processes, and call them low value instead of focusing on the type of men that you want? That's not cool.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-05-11T23:46:01+00:00

Can you prove any of your affirmations?

babazuki · 2024-05-12T07:41:27+00:00

"Compare the sexual desires and wishes of a man who consumes porn vs one who has never consumed it, compare the expectations of a man who consumes it vs one who has never consumed it, compare the way they both see women."

Afghani goat herders have the purest sexual desires and the most wholesome view of women.

ArtifactFan65 · 2024-05-12T00:50:28+00:00

Agreed but women who read romantic fiction about dark triad men are also tainted 🤣 Women are degenerates too.

InkAddict718 · 2024-05-11T23:33:40+00:00

Pornography taints both genders. People think porn is real life but it’s not. I’ve never known any woman who likes getting plowed from behind while having her face shoved into a dog bowl

Mental_Leek_2806 · 2024-05-12T00:01:53+00:00

I believe that the obsession with anal sex amongst straight people in the last several years is almost entirely porn based

alebruto · 2024-05-12T00:10:49+00:00

This post is wrong for specifying it as harmful to men, when pornography is actually harmful to both sexes.

kongeriket · 2024-05-12T02:10:31+00:00

Yes, I don't value "sexual purity" at all. In fact, me and my wife became kinkier as time went on.

We also sometimes watch porn together so... I guess we "taint" each other? Ridiculous.

They dont think a relationship is not real if theres no sex.

Yes. Any man who doesn't think like that is in some way defective - either mentally or physically.

Sex is a very important part of a relationship. We can argue percentages and proportions, sure, but, absent disease, a relationship absolutely is not real if there's no sex.

Will whine when you wont take care of his "needs"

Yeah, that's an attitude that will get you cheated on. True for women as well.

Men and women absolutely do have sexual needs. Not "needs" but actual needs. And not fulfilling them is a really fast way to breaking down the relationship. I have a duty to my wife to fulfill her sexual needs and she has a duty to me to do the same. That's why we humans built stable relationships.

The rest of your list is either ridiculous or describe issues that are related to miscommunication or lack of communication rather than porn itself. Porn can be a symptom, but it's not the issue. For crying out loud, there are successful porn actors who are married and basically produce semi-pro porn of their sexual monogamous lives. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh, and by the way - around 30 to 35% of regular consumers of porn are women. On the casual market it's even more balanced.

Crazy_Trash7281 · 2024-05-12T03:48:43+00:00

The problem with your post is that the vast majority of men consume pornography. And they start consuming it at very young ages. So there is not some large group of “virtuous” men avoiding pornography. In fact most who attempt to avoid have already been brain damaged by it in one way or another which is why they are trying to go porn free

It’s telling that this post gets no responses from women. They are very cowardly when it comes to this topic.

Planthoe30 · 2024-05-12T04:21:09+00:00

I work with child sex trafficking victims and something not a lot of people know is that they have content online on the major pornography streaming platforms up for years before we can get the content taken down- OF and porn hub are both guilty of this. The porn industries are evil and they are profiting off of child sex trafficking. You could have masturbated to a minor and not even known because they teach those women to do their make up to look older and act older. Sometimes they didn’t even know they were being filmed.

Suggesting women take advantage of men for their money is hopefully satirical but I understand how this was probably mocking the red pill spin plates idiocracy.

Chad_dad_brad · 2024-05-11T23:40:58+00:00

“ compare the sexual desires and wishes of a man who consumes porn vs one who has never consumed it” you’ll never find a man between the ages of 18 - 50 who hasn’t watched porn, but I agree porn consumption should be a red flag to most woman

Vronicasawyerredsded · 2024-05-12T00:44:19+00:00

I don’t think porn taints men, but I would discontinue a relationship with a man for certain content on his browser history, and how frequently he watches porn if I were ever to see it.

Also, I’d end a serious relationship if he was secretive about the porn he watched and how frequently he watched it.

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Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-05-12T08:01:00+00:00

99% of men watch porn - the other 1% are lying about it

yodol-90 · 2024-05-12T09:28:43+00:00

sounds like u problem for seeking out such men. go shower and attract high value men not low one.

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-05-12T14:38:50+00:00

Or maybe women get off on getting degraded?

RubyDiscus · 2024-05-12T15:31:32+00:00

Ehh idk this post is just biased against porn.

There's no evidence it harms men in any way.

ppvremsleep · 2024-05-12T00:03:38+00:00

If you didn’t have sex in the 90s and before it’s nearly impossible to understand the benefits from online porn being widespread.

Being addicted to pornography and holding all women up to every sexual standard, and all sexual acts in porn, and saying she has to enjoy it too, is clearly not good.

That being said, women watch porn and figure out things that turn them on. Some women like to give amazing bjs, get facefucked, some love the focus she gets to receive a facial, some girls like butt plugs or anal sex, lot of girls want to be physically dominated, into threesomes, or want their man to last a long time occasionally.

All the things in porn that guys think well that’s degrading, most girls actually really like a few of those degrading things, just not them all.

Pornography put everything on the table laid out as a possibility. It made girls more open to express more taboo aspects of sex and express their enjoyment for it. Girls are more openly sexually enthusiastic now. Porn showed that girls are now allowed to do things she likes in porn for the man she wants. Makes both genders happier.

N-Zoth · 2024-05-11T23:57:07+00:00

Yea compulsively watching it probably isn't great, but you are making a whole bunch of assumptions. Most people can distinguish between fantasy and reality so it's not a problem.

Are people who enjoy abrasive art bad? Because according to your logic they would be. Do people who play violent video games turn violent? Do people who listen to thrash metal become warmongers? Do people who like stories with villain protagonists become criminals?

If anything, militant purity culture is probably more harmful to people than someone watching tasteless schlock.

Legitimate_Reply_537 · 2024-05-12T03:24:18+00:00

lol no.

meisterkraus · 2024-05-12T00:12:51+00:00

You just seem to be sex negative.

historynerdcatboy · 2024-05-11T23:52:33+00:00

Porn is just media, it doesn't "taint" anyone, and claiming it does is puritan sex negative bullshit. It can leave people with a false impression of sex but that can only be solved with more exposure to correct information, not less exposure to sex-related topics.

Sure_Tourist1088 · 2024-05-12T01:23:01+00:00

Look, if we have to all hit the gym and earn hundreds of thousands of excess dollars over a lifetime so you can buy an endless supply of throw pillows, you can learn to deepthroat and pretend you like it. That's the deal.

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-05-12T01:40:52+00:00

Why do you care? Majority of these men never stood a chance to have a relationship and were non-existent to women anyway.

UnhappyInevitable680 · 2024-05-12T02:21:46+00:00

Bad Faith circlejerk

VWGUYWV · 2024-05-12T02:35:14+00:00

They dont think a relationship is not real if theres no sex.

I agree.

ej_theraider · 2024-05-12T03:19:48+00:00

YEESH what "pornsick freak" corrupted you?... 😅

ExternalBarracuda292 · 2024-05-12T00:01:31+00:00

Porn use is so universal among men that it's pointless to even discuss men who don't use it. You'd be limiting yourself to 1% of men tops, and that 1% is probably lying about it.

Choice-Substance-183 · 2024-05-12T00:04:39+00:00

The pun in the title is cracking me up.

Anyway, yes, porn can ruin relationships. Luckily, you don't have to stay in any relationship ruined by porn.

If a man doesn't respect your sexaul boundaries. Leave.

If a boy can't tell the difference between porn and reality, don't date him. Or break up with him.

Breaker1617554 · 2024-05-12T02:01:24+00:00

Well until my sex drive finally dies of old age I have no other option.

Title	Pornography taints men
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Date	May 11, 2024 11:31 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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