Can you pull 9s and 10s while you are 6 or 7?

ptsdbagz · 2025-05-20T19:52:26+00:00

Im like Steph Curry. I stay knocking down 3's

HistorianOk2573 · 2025-05-20T17:13:28+00:00

Yes, but only when you start treating those 9s and 10s as 5s or 6s.

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-05-20T17:11:47+00:00

Keep in mind there is some truth to the hot:crazy matrix. Generally, the hotter a woman is the more crazy she tends to be. Why? They skate through life on their looks with guys simping over them and telling them they're perfect just the way they are for years. Employers will still hire them even if they're under qualified and have a questionable resume if a guy's interviewing. They carry that bitchy peaked as high school cheerleader / prom queen vibe forever.

While the sample sizes aren't ideal, every 9 and 10 I ever dated was balls to the walls fucking crazy as has every guy I've known to date what most consider physical 10-ish women. The 10 I married - also fucking crazy. Be careful around them. Date beyond looks.

JungBuck17 · 2025-05-20T19:18:30+00:00

You can be average looking and physically beige... but a 9 or 10 to a girl is different. Sure, all of that matters, but do you have swagger? I've seen average guys with hot girls. Depends on what you're up to. Are you just pulling numbers to get confidence? There's other ways to measure a man. Average looks and body, okay. But are you THAT guy? Work on yourself and you'll be surrounded with girls. Take them out, make them laugh and feel special. Take your pick... The one that treats you like there's nobody else in the world... Keep that one... or dont. Your choice. Thats the difference, young buck.

exotourlif3 · 2025-05-20T17:49:27+00:00

Girls like what they like

ClitPlayaBootySlappa · 2025-05-20T19:24:26+00:00

Don't put these women on pedestals.

You're the 10. Put yourself on that pedestal.

rocketwilco · 2025-05-20T17:55:55+00:00

With money, all things are possible

OriginalMandem · 2025-05-20T19:08:11+00:00

It's happened a couple of times, usually when I wasn't really expecting anything and just doing my own thing...

Star__boy · 2025-05-20T18:04:19+00:00

Funnily enough I think it's easier than ever if you don't live in Dubai/Miami/LA. Just dress well, have your own place, be highly paid and be on track to be even more successful. Just don't be neurotic and be normal. With 9s and 10s you're just an accessory to complement their life so you should tick these boxes. As long as you are average looking and dress well the other factors should carry you. Do this an you will actually get tired of 9s or 10s and end up dating 5s,6s for your peace of mind

Caqumba · 2025-05-20T18:27:10+00:00

Multiple things can help: 1. Looksmaxxing, though this would technically increase your ranking. 2. Personality. Having an attractive, magnetic personality (e.g., being charismatic, nice, funny, smart, charming, confident) can be a substantial asset. 3. Nichemaxxing. Similar to personality, but this is more about the vibe you give off. If you're a 6-7 nichemaxxing, some women who are into the niche you choose may view you as an 8 or 9. 4. Obvious, but social status, which of course includes money, fame, etc. Any indicator of social success can be a massive asset. It also doesn't have to be on that grand a scale. Social proof from being comfortable around attractive women (and having them be comfortable around you) is enough. Knowing and being liked by others is also quite helpful.

tilldeathdoiparty · 2025-05-20T21:06:12+00:00

The second you put them on a pedestal, you’ve lost.

1 (yes I would) or 0 (no I would not) is the only scale you should operate on.

DeadOfKnight · 2025-05-20T21:34:39+00:00

Physical attractiveness is superficial.

I’d prefer a 6 or 7 who isn’t a crazy bitch, and I think most men would. Not all ugliness is external.

Physical attractiveness is subjective.

While supermodel traits play a role due to how we will be perceived by others, not everyone actually prefers them. I like women to be a bit thicker. My wife thinks bodybuilders are gross, and she likes nerdy guys in glasses. Some may see you as a 10.

Women are generally less shallow than men.

This is due to nature rather than any kind of moral superiority. Men seek women with physical traits that indicate health and fertility. Women seek men who will be good providers and protectors.

WachanIII · 2025-05-20T17:35:10+00:00

Come on mane. Think about what you're competing against

MudrakM · 2025-05-20T18:01:50+00:00

If you are rich

VisionsOfVisions · 2025-05-20T18:45:08+00:00

You have to think in terms of Venn Diagrams. Find the overlaps in interest, humor, beliefs, financial goals, etc. When there are enough overlaps, sure. If there are no apparent overlaps, you are probably wasting your energy.

BreakTheWallsDown95 · 2025-05-20T20:57:09+00:00

You reach a certain point where rating women just feels juvenile.

When I reach out to someone, it’s because I genuinely want to connect—not to prove my worth. The truth is, people interpret things in their own way. We’re not mind readers, and we never really know what someone else is going through or how that might shape their response. All I can do is show up honestly and communicate clearly.

If I stay authentic and confident, then it’s simple: either she’ll be receptive, or she won’t—and either way, I’ll still be okay..

Derbel__McDillet · 2025-05-20T22:05:49+00:00

At that level, women go for value over straight looks. What do you offer that has that kind of value?

Jtenka · 2025-05-20T18:06:04+00:00

Yes. I've done this several times. A few experiences below.

Actually banged a manager from another site who my boss fancied for ages. That one was awkward when it came out. We were seeing each other outside of work for a couple of months. She was smoking, eastern European girl.

I probably fucked up by giving her way too much validation towards the end, and she went cold. I was fairly honest about how hot I thought she was after a couple of months and it was like a switch flipped. At the begining she felt like she earned it because we met out of work and another girl was trying to get my number all night, plus my boss and other managers were talking to me all night. We ended up back at hers that first night and I actually kissed her and left to go back my hotel rather than close. That shit drove her to message me for two weeks relentlessly (different city). Until I went back up and met her again a few weeks later.

The Psychology behind it is weird but interesting when you examine it.

Didn't make the same mistake a second time. Went on a stag do, and watched a whole bunch of mates trying to fuck a stunning blonde all night. Made a couple of backhanded jokes at her briefly, and by the end of the night having spoken barely 2 minutes I ended up with her bent over the hotel room bed.

(To add, I box competitively. I'm in good shape. I don't give off a cocky vibe. I keep to myself. I give enough information to keep myself interesting. I don't post myself making fucking coffee on my insta. Nobody gives a shit about your Starbucks. I love to read, and I'm generally living my life for me. I will go on a date and eat alone if I get stood up. I enjoy my own company).

yazzooClay · 2025-05-20T19:10:06+00:00

Maybe you can swing something if you are an 8 , still difficult 6 or 7 can forget it.

xclaner · 2025-05-20T19:58:54+00:00

Ratings are subjective.

I’ll assume what is really being asked here is if it is possible for mildly conventionally attractive men to get highly conventionally attractive women.

Of course it is possible, but it’s highly unlikely and I don’t think it is consistently reproducible. If anyone tells you otherwise - they probably have different/lower standards for what a 9/10 woman is.

So when does it happen? When the 9/10 views the 6/7 as the best option for her at that time - and this can be due to a variety of reasons - perfect timing or maybe there is something really specific and unconventional that she really likes and values in the 6/7.

However, in most cases, it is unlikely that the 6/7 dude will be the best or most optimal option for the 9/10 and thus it won’t happen.

People can have a tendency to like weird or unconventional traits that can allow for conventionally mismatched pairings.

The implied question here is also how can a 6/7 get a 9/10. Assuming they cannot improve their attractiveness and they are stuck at 6/7, the 6/7 can only play the numbers game and own the ways they can be attractive in unconventional ways:

TheGame81677 · 2025-05-20T20:22:41+00:00

I struggle internally with my looks a lot. Yet, I see these average guys who look like me with these really beautiful women. I wonder what their secret is.

Sure-Wish3240 · 2025-05-20T22:25:54+00:00

The woman i loved most of time i spent on this planet was a 10. And she wasnt Crazy. But she only wanted me when i was not available for her. And the bed action was 3/10.

We treated each other like just another person in our lives. Like someone Said above, treat a 10 like she is a 6 and her ego will react.

This insecure behavior hurted us both in the end. I was at the peak of my game at the time And she was beyond beautiful. But we never opened our hearts to each other and feared being used by the other.

CrazyRepulsive8244 · 2025-05-20T20:58:17+00:00

I've pulled a handful of tens as a seven. I prefer seven to eights. Most of my relationships have been with a minimum seven. And that's just based on your opinion of her style.

OkResponsibility2470 · 2025-05-20T21:26:38+00:00

Idk why ppl here are arguing with you about semantics. Yes, attraction is subjective to a degree but there are objectively attractive traits across all phenotypes and cultures

If you are really worse looking than them, and this is not a scenario where you know them beforehand,I think it’s a matter of being in the right place at the right time or being incredibly charismatic

brise-mysterieuse · 2025-05-20T21:58:14+00:00

yes. i consider myself a 7. i dated a fashion model that is a 9. i don’t know how, she thought i was cute. i explain it by law of large numbers.

it wasn’t easy dating her because she had a lot of prospects in a major city and went on dates with hollywood directors and wealthy men. i was just a normal guy

jcolmoreh1 · 2025-05-20T23:24:46+00:00

In this economy?

gentle_beast_1179 · 2025-05-21T00:40:25+00:00

Confidence is 90%, so yes definitely

UniqueUserName2017 · 2025-05-21T04:35:58+00:00

Sometimes all you have to be is decently attractive and funny

PeterLamb87 · 2025-05-21T08:09:59+00:00

If buy my book, seminar, and coaching for a limited offer of $999, yes. I can teach you how to pull stunners on a regular basis and give you a chance to compete at breaking my 2000 laycount (no cap, why would you ever doubt me?). On a more serious note, you can. I have punched above my weight (I'm a good talker), and I have seen not so good looking men pull stunners (competent dancers excel at this), but is not easy.

dystopia061 · 2025-05-21T09:51:48+00:00

Make some money

Covfefetarian · 2025-05-21T13:51:25+00:00

The trick is to not think of people, others and yourself, in terms of ratings.

No-Wolverine7793 · 2025-05-22T02:53:17+00:00

Hunt in groups if your the hot one outta group then 6-7 looks like a 7-8

Or just be stupid confident if you hunt alone

Temporary-One7968 · 2025-05-22T06:36:01+00:00

Most true 9’s and 10’s typically have large followings on social media so they’re hard to access if you’re not high status/ rich/ highly attractive (8+ in looks). You need to have at least one of those qualities to pull a 9’s and 10’s consistently because it’s competitive to date/ access them.

somethinlikeshieva · 2025-05-22T14:50:53+00:00

id be happy with a 5

smind893 · 2025-05-24T16:41:01+00:00

🙄 This shit again

Just be yourself out loud caisr steers 9s 10s who are into niche things that would love that youre into something they can relate to

Yes you should have a few bucks for interoperability future date, be in somewhat decent shape (not Pitt from Fight Club its ok lol) and have good hygiene , job and your own place which is clean and you'll be fine.

There are hot "9s 10s" women into cooking, movies, stoicism, cosplay, concerts , death metal etc and have no one to relate with on these things

Just the unapologetically the best you and in the circles you'll thrive most.

I pulled a dancer cause of poker and a playboy model ring girl cause of a book club.

Ya all got this

ConnectExchange5675 · 2025-05-20T20:24:20+00:00

I mean if you’re a 7 that’s above average so yeah

DrinksAreOnTheHouse · 2025-05-20T23:10:27+00:00

Im getting close to leaving this subreddit.

jjboy91 · 2025-05-21T00:32:22+00:00

Apparently yes because I see people that hit the gym everyday, are fit and all settled for people who don't exercise and are overweight so anything is possible

ghrinz · 2025-05-21T01:14:06+00:00

What are those numbers?

Aranea101 · 2025-05-21T01:18:16+00:00

I can pull a 1, if I were a 10... maybe

Leading-Ad-4085 · 2025-05-21T02:23:08+00:00

Yup. Not only that I also do so very consistently. 8 lays in the last month. All complete strangers. But since what I do is going against many of these rules you see on this sub Reddit, and Also since I have noticed that advice given too easily isn't appreciated... Id rather keep it to myself a little bit . Reach out if you're really interested.

JackSquirts · 2025-05-21T08:59:21+00:00

I can, but if you're asking, you probably can't.

throwaway-research1 · 2025-05-21T11:53:02+00:00

I can

g00g0lig00 · 2025-05-21T12:44:29+00:00

TripleDigitNomad · 2025-05-21T21:49:44+00:00

With money and status you can

Kobe_curry24 · 2025-05-21T22:52:20+00:00

Dude just focus on pulling what you can first before you shoot above the hip , knock down the easy ones sit pretty on that level than once that’s Shit is easy you level up not before , plus that level is your personal level there will be Less games less shit test once you jump out your level so does the level of opposition, the amount of girl game she will run on you will he unlimited and your an easy mark. Because you never had a baddy before and she knows your do anything to keep her , just stay in your land until your mental and your sexual are one

KingRemu · 2025-05-22T12:51:12+00:00

You'll have a better chance when you stop treating them as numbers and start treating them as human beings.

Prestigious_Water336 · 2025-05-26T19:40:34+00:00

You can.

But you gotta have a ton of confidence and be able to pass shit tests.

topher_atx · 2025-05-20T17:50:40+00:00

This is a bad goal in my opinion. You're kind of saying you want a woman who has put in a lot of effort to have a hot body, but you want her to want you, someone who hasn't put in the effort to have a hot body.

You're honestly going to insult women shooting your shot with babes way out of your league, waste her time, waste your time, and give men in general a bad name and make it harder for guys to approach.

If you want a certain tier of woman, ask yourself what would the male equivalent look like? Get in that kind of shape so you aren't wasting peoples time.

J2Mar · 2025-05-20T19:20:54+00:00

This is stupid. Attractiveness is entirely subjective, and rating someone on a numerical scale seems foolish to me. For example, if you consider yourself a 5 or 6 but you are blonde and the girl you’re interested in likes blondes, you might be viewed as a 7, 8, or even a 9 or 10 in her eyes. Conversely, if you’re a brunette and she prefers blondes, you might remain at a 5 or 6 or go lower to a 4-5 in her perception.

The same principle applies to various aspects of attractiveness, including race, height, and personality traits. Some girls prefer dominant personalities, while others prefer submissive ones. Ultimately, it all depends on individual preferences. Putting a specific number on someone’s attractiveness just doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve met many women who have said, “They don’t find Michael B Jordan attractive at all.” One of the most famous actors for his looks. It’s because he isn’t their type. While the same women has said that she found “Adam Sandler is extremely hot.” Which was entirely her opinion. No scale exists. This concept is something insecure men use to either bring themselves up or down. The deciding factor is purely based on your perception and the other persons perception.

IamWisdom · 2025-05-20T20:13:39+00:00

Not really. You have to be massively funny and the coolest guy on earth or it is just not gonna happen. Im an 8 or 9 and I still struggle getting girls to stay interested. Women are just impossible. The hotter they are the more options they have and the more secure they are with just not caring about men no matter how hot the guy is.

Puzzleheaded_Back181 · 2025-05-21T05:31:46+00:00

That’s like 80% of the hot couples I see out and about, woman don’t like dating men prettier that them

Title	Can you pull 9s and 10s while you are 6 or 7?
Author	J1mmy_white
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Date	May 20, 2025 5:05 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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