Bad men are not analogous to the weather

PSXSnack09 · 2026-02-28T17:56:34+00:00

as far as im concerned, "pick better" is a rethoric pertaining relationships and even then is limited to western societies where women dont need men so they dont have to start relationships out of survival, not random men harming random women

a different story is that you purpposefuly put yourself in dangerous places or situations, but that criticism is thrown at individuals regardless of gender.

TheRedPillRipper · 2026-03-01T01:29:00+00:00

women should not be told to “take responsibility”.

Agreed. They should just take responsibility. Objectively, an individual is responsible for their personal well being. Physically. Emotionally. Fiscally. Fundamentally.

Analogies are fine, but this is the reality. It is the most pragmatic basis upon which to build one’s worldview. It is that simple.

BeepBeepYeah7789 · 2026-03-01T13:51:23+00:00

Let's compare a woman walking vs. a woman driving:

Why would it be sexist to say that a woman should take precautions while she's walking around somewhere if it's not considered sexist to say that a woman should take precautions while she's driving?

In both cases, she is doing whatever she can to ensure her safety.

Yes, I understand that most drivers aren't "predatory" in the sense that you're talking about in your OP, but the fact remains that a woman needs to be "defensive" while she's driving so as to not break any traffic laws or get into an accident.

TL;DR: It is inconsistent to say it's sexist for women to take precautions/responsibility in some circumstances but not sexist for other situations.

Bilbo332 · 2026-02-28T17:46:50+00:00

Its just more dehumanizing to excuse bigotry. Did that woman falsely accuse that man because she's a woman? No, she's just a shitty person. Men that do bad things don't do them because they're men, they do them because they are shitty people. Like it or not, the number of shitty people is evenly distributed between genders, races, sexualities, everything. Everyone is just one person.

caption291 · 2026-03-01T02:39:50+00:00

The probability of getting wet when you stand in the rain is basically 100%.

the probability of getting assaulted when you hang out with Timmy the loser physicist is basiaclly zero percent.

The probability of getting assaulted when you hang out with Chad the violent criminal is higher than zero.

All your decisions are on a spectrum and can be judged based on if they increase your odds of bad outcomes or not. The idea that your decisions shouldn't be judged because someone else made a worse decision or could have made a decision that would have prevented your bad outcome is objectification and black and white thinking.

IridikronsNo1Fan · 2026-02-28T17:57:42+00:00

Serial gangbanger doesn't give a single damn that someone thinks that he is a "bad man". He is going to continue doing what he does no matter what. IF he ends up in prison (and that's a big IF), he may even end up using it as an opportunity to get jacked, build up street cred and start a hustle to boost his "career".

Law enforcement and judges can't rewind time to prevent a crime from being committed. Neither do they give a damn really, they are just being paid to do a job.

No one but you will ever give a single damn about your safety. Act accordingly instead of virtue signaling or making some kind of a moronic moral stand.

Just_Alternative3167 · 2026-02-28T18:58:29+00:00

Nobody in their right mind would blame a woman for being assaulted unprovoked in public transit or in any normal random everyday-situation. I have no idea who or what you are arguing against.

BitsAndBobs304 · 2026-02-28T18:48:03+00:00

You speak as if only men committed atrocities, and as if women were the primary victim. Your average midandrist feminist propaganda.

Reasonable_Mouse789 · 2026-02-28T18:19:49+00:00

There are “two sides” to the topic. If a woman interacts with men who approach her in public, and kisses the attractive guy from her soccer hobby, then she’s likely super safe the whole time. Colleges are observably rampant with at least somewhat safe, attractive men, hence all the women engaging in indiscriminate hookups.

Visit Grindr as a guy if you want to understand what “creeps” are like. I have absolutely no solid advice for how to be safe around men who are predators, other than not to be in the same zip code as him. Creepiness is almost certainly guaranteed from men in certain environments. Act like the opposite of what the guys from Reddit, Discord, Grindr, 4chan, online gaming, Tinder, etc. do if you want some woman to kiss you

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DGenerationMC · 2026-02-28T19:11:43+00:00

"Ayo, the world is cold, better bundle up."

Tip for everyone: don't let other people's problems/plights become your own, even if they need someone to (incorrectly and in a generalizing sense) label as villain. You don't exist to be a character in their life story.

I_DOM_UR_PATRIARCHY · 2026-02-28T19:30:15+00:00

Great post.

The only thing that causes rape is rapists. There is only one thing that stops rape, and that's stopping the rapist. A rapist's decision to commit rape should never be placed on the victim.

Extra_Performer4001 · 2026-02-28T19:38:10+00:00

I mean women should prepare, that doesn't absolve bad men. There are creeps out there who feel entitled to speak to you, they won't accept "I don't know you go away" without offense, and they escalate until someone physically checks them. As a man when that happens I have a ton of options after the fact, a woman might need male 2 to step in and the HE might feel entitled. I can get between you and a predator if he's been identified, I can't impose my protection on you without knowing that's the case.

Zabadoodude · 2026-03-01T00:08:25+00:00

As a society, we can and shoudl talk about all factors factors that make floods more likely: global warming, surface runoff, etc. But if you are an individual living in a flood zone it is your responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Crime is analogous: we should have discussions on what we can do to reduce the overall crime rate, but as an individual it's your responsibility to take reasonable precautions.

I shouldn't have to get out of a flood zone, humanity needs to fix global warming instead is not a good argument.

DankuTwo · 2026-03-01T07:34:19+00:00

“ If you're a woman, and you take public transit, and you get assaulted by a man, it's seen as your fault because you "could" have prevented it.”

Wait, what? WTF?

So, simply being on public transport means you’re going to get assaulted? WTF kind of stupid, America-brained nonsense is that!?

AwardLimp2736 · 2026-03-01T13:19:53+00:00

There are certain areas in America that are not only dangerous to walk around on your own, but where you can almost certainly expect a confrontation if you wear the wrong colored clothing.

Now knowing this, if I went to this area and decked myself out in the said colored clothing that would facilitate me getting shot, and I get shot, who is to blame?

Ofcrouse ideally I should be able to wear whatever I want, and walk around wherever I want wearing it, but that doesn't make me any less shot. And for me knowing this, and still doing it, some people may say I had it coming, or I was an idiot for doing so.

So until every area is made safe to walk around in wearing whatever, which I wish will happen some day, I think it's practical to teach both sides. How not to harm, and how to protect yourself.

Just like I would tell my son not to wear certain colors and avoid certain areas, I would suggest to my daughter to avoid certain clothing, and certain places while consuming certain substances.

WorkingPermission633 · 2026-03-03T19:09:40+00:00

Obviously crimes should be punished and people should be protected. But you should still not go around doing things that could lead you to getting harmed in some way.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2026-02-28T20:04:45+00:00

not one western woman has victim blaming drilled into her head, in fact she learns the opposite. she learns if she passes out in a bikini on the subway she should be perfectly safe because men should be taught not to rape. aren't there websites in whatever languages you all speak in your countries

Just_Alternative3167 · 2026-02-28T18:50:31+00:00

I will copy paste an answer of mine I had to a different thread because it fits here:

"I think it's a matter of language being too imprecise to deal with the scope of what we're discussing which leads to frustration.

Like imagine I'm traveling to another country with a friend and we knowingly visit a city with high rate of crime and we (knowingly) walk late at night in the shadiest neighbourhood there is while looking like the well-off first-world tourists that we are. And then we get mugged by some gang of criminals.

Of course, a moral fault solely lies with the muggers since me and my friend didn't do anything morally reprehensible. However, we still consciously contributed to the causal chain of events that resulted in us getting mugged. How do I adequately adress this?

Are we at "fault"? Did we do anything "wrong"? Are we "responsible"? Are we to "blame"? And what if we repeat this behaviour and get mugged another 5 times on the same trip? Frankly, I don't know how to answer these questions definitively."

Tldr: Women who are victims of bad men do not carry moral fault but they probably do carry some sort of responsibility that's a bit difficult to express.

And regarding your last paragraph, that's a ridiculous strawman, obviously nobody would blame a women for getting assaulted unprovoked on the street. But the "blame" might occur when she chooses to get involved with men who have more red flags than a communist parade.

QuietStoat · 2026-02-28T17:55:51+00:00

Logically Kinda. Emotionally Yes.

Let's reframe the question. Change assault by a man, to assault by a woman.
(I.e. flip the genders or perform the "veil of ignorance"/double-blind test)
Still a conscious choice by an individual in a given group which statistically has an increased propensity to do X.
Logically an individual can perform actions prior to X occurrence, and their actions may OR may not have led to X. An assumption cannot be made about the occurrence of X, only that a set of actions that the individual took beforehand would have increased or decreased the likelihood of X. This is normal.

Victim-blaming is rationalization of the variance of causation of X. But it can be either true or false DEPENDING on the nature of the action. However, modern society has failed to realize that the occurrence of X is 2-dimensional (i.e. 2 variable factors). Action taken by party A AND party B. THIS IS THE PART EVERYONE FORGETS ABOUT. Party A may tempt Party B to take action, and Party B is entirely a separate entity.

BUT, you can also make the case that Party A displays actions that within a given subset of Xs, have a higher correlation rate to X than others. Why would Party A NOT minimize it if it was in their control? Then realize its a CORRELATION and not a CAUSATION, since Party B needs to act on it. Depending on how easy it was to lower the correlated action, is Party A not in-part in control and thus responsible for the occurrence of X?
(Note: assumption made about finding correlation in party B and thus also taking action here as well.)

Party A has a responsibility for mitigating risk. BUT TO ASSUME THE OCCURRENCE OF X WAS DUE TO THE FAILURE OF PARTY A AND NOT THE ACTIONS OF PARTY B WOULD BE A CATEGORICAL ERROR!

Then you add on top of this, the actual occurrence of SUFFERING in a sentient being, regardless if the innocent party had fault or not. This is called empathy or compassion, something sorely missing in modern human connection.

Then copypaste this and apply to every man vs woman topic ever. Congratulations, you have acquired the skill called COMMON SENSE.

(TLDR; context of them just 'existing', overgeneralization. Hand-waving of specific correlations. Failure to achieve both necessity and sufficient conditions. But for compassion to an individual experiencing pain, understandably yes though question of responsibility still applies.)

Outside_Memory5703 · 2026-02-28T18:19:22+00:00

Men have a motive to assault women, and much better means

Present-Afternoon-70 · 2026-03-01T12:51:29+00:00

As we have seen men are fucking evil and too many of us have failed in calling them out. When we elect a fucking rapist I think women are fair in calling us out for this shit. All you red pill maga fucks need to deal with being sad or not getting sex. Go to therapy, get a hobby and learn to do the fucking dishes.

We need to do better and until we do yes women are forced unfairly to treat men like the weather.

Title	Bad men are not analogous to the weather
Author	GGMcThroway
Upvotes	13
Comments	184
Date	February 28, 2026 5:39 PM UTC (5 months ago)
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