I literally got downvoted and told not to kinkshame because i said i never had rape fantasies. (:(:

Lilybb16 · 2020-09-30T09:15:19+00:00

"Most women are into little play"

VOMIT

Pahapan · 2020-09-30T09:46:25+00:00

Most women have also experienced sexual assault in one form or another, and this is one of the many ways the trauma rears its head. That doesn't make it healthy.

FDSxMuffinVSrat · 2020-09-30T11:08:42+00:00

Even if this were true, so fucking what? What's the implication? That you can rape women? That you can just assume women are into violence so it's fair game to be aggressive?

Like really. So fucking what even if it's true?

ModernDayOracle · 2020-09-30T12:27:53+00:00

Women don't have rape fantasies, because rape is the act of being forced to have sex without consent. Women have rough sex fantasies and fantasies where they hand over the majority of control to their partners, but they are still consenting participants in the act. There's a whole host of reasons women might persue this, a not insignificant one of which is trauma re-enactment, a sense-making tool people use to try and cope with historical traumatic events.

Calling it a rape fantasy dilutes the impact and devastation rape can cause, and spouting statistics about the number of women who have these fantasies is basically saying 'most women secretly want it'.

Oh, and men with 'rape fantasies' are straight up rapists looking for a way to legitimise their urges.

BasieSkanks · 2020-09-30T09:55:59+00:00

That study doesn’t say that 62% of women have had rape fantasies. It says that 62% of the women surveyed had rape fantasies. There’s a huge difference. Also, from memory, this study only asked college-age, heterosexual American women. So the findings can’t be generalised at all.

Pasdepromesses · 2020-09-30T10:08:11+00:00

62% of women who participated in that survey have unresolved trauma.

There, fixed it for him.

Saitschik · 2020-09-30T12:34:54+00:00

Those "rape fantasies" are usually something like a hot burglar breaks into the house and they have rough sex or whatever.

No woman dreams about getting molested or even raped by a mediocre, nasty, sleazy dude.

Men don't seem to understand that..

thirdtoebean · 2020-09-30T10:43:30+00:00

I like how you crossed him out with a lightsaber, though.

asteria2002 · 2020-09-30T12:12:44+00:00

When a women fantasies about rape, doesn't that make it non rape? Because she chooses the guy and has all the control and wtf are they trying to prove? sometimes I fantasie about fighting villains, but does that mean I truly want to be blasted through buildings? It is a fantasy for a reason, you don't feel pain or other things. And women truly think they will feel pleasure not knowing all they will feeling is just pain. And on top of that, it is not the women the problem for being into rape play, it is the men who actually enjoys to playing Raping someone. You know who enjoys imagining Raping someone? Exactly a rapist! Not someone you would like to be in a relationship with.

Davina33 · 2020-09-30T12:43:04+00:00

Sounds about right. I was speaking about Karla Homolka on some other sub a while ago and a woman came along and said there was nothing wrong with her fantasies. Rape fantasies are perfectly normal and shouldn't be shamed. Well I've actually been raped, sorry if I don't fantasise about non-consensual acts.

IAteTheDragon · 2020-09-30T12:12:01+00:00

Jesus Fckin Christ, am I fckin dreaming? Is this really happening?

luciesssss · 2020-09-30T13:07:15+00:00

A lot of women have rape fantasies as a way coping with trauma. Also, a fantasy is just that. Doesn’t mean they want men to force themselves on them.

PollyAnnaSunshine · 2020-09-30T13:16:31+00:00

Women are groomed to believe forcefulness, persistence, and not taking no for an answer = “passion” à la “bodice ripper” romance novel scenes. I wonder if that’s what some of the respondents were thinking of when they answered this question.

Additionally, there is the issue of unresolved sexual trauma that other posters have already addressed that could be contributing.

Finally, I wouldn’t put it past some extreme pickmes to play the “cool girl” and say yes to this, even in an anonymous survey 🙃

curiousandbashful · 2020-09-30T13:06:51+00:00

Called you sir when survey was about women... 🤔

Huntscunt · 2020-09-30T14:14:35+00:00

I really believe most women have rape fantasies because it's the only way we are allowed to be sexual without being dirty. Like, I was taught that losing my virginity was the worst thing in the world, so my 14 year old brain was like, but if it's not my choice, then I'm still clean or whatever bs.

nieces-pieces · 2020-09-30T11:40:12+00:00

Love that they never stop and wonder WHY women have rape fantasies

balladwilds · 2020-09-30T10:01:52+00:00

theyre disgusting

lskfjd743 · 2020-09-30T14:35:08+00:00

This reminds me of something that I read in an anti-LibFem blog:

"your kinks are not sacred"

k20_4 · 2020-09-30T12:34:49+00:00

One of my close friends had been seeing a guy she thought was HV, and then she told me one night after a little too much wine he told her this. I told her to never see him again, it's terrifying to be alone with a man who says "most or all women fantasize about getting raped." How could you ever feel safe?

SkiesEclipse · 2020-09-30T14:59:16+00:00

Scrotes are so idiotic though. LVM always conflate a fantasy, with wanting to act it out in real life. I’ve had lots of fantasies in my head that I know for a FACT that I would NEVER want to act out. But scrotes think that you’re “sUpPreSsing YoUr sExuAliTy” if you don’t act on every impulse you have, because they think with their tiny head, not their big head.

Saitschik · 2020-09-30T12:30:26+00:00

I once wrote under an article about "harmless rape fantasies" that people who have them are disgusting and creepy.

My mailbox got flooded with the nastiest mails, those pervs were completely losing their shit. Basically just proofing my point

DippedinBronze · 2020-09-30T15:54:31+00:00

Wow, okay.. so first off.. fantasizing about rape is normal in trauma victims.

I was sexually abused as a child, grew up in a violent home, and then was date raped in college. By the time I was 19, the only way I could get off was if someone was very aggressive with me or if I fantasized/role played about being raped.

I was embarrassed and ashamed of myself for a long time and tried to gain power over my weird desires by making it seem “kinky” and “sexy”. Of course guys wouldn’t hesitate to give in and play these roles for me. But I always felt dirty and empty afterwards. I should mention that my mental health was terrible at the time and I was cutting/suicidal.

After starting therapy, I learned that these fantasies were common in rape victims and a way for the victim to try and reclaim power over her narrative (by imagining that it was somehow consensual).

After years of therapy, I no longer get off to this thought. I only get off to someone taking their time to pleasure my body and being committed to making sure I’m enjoying myself. I actually like some gentleness now too. Don’t even know how or when this switch occurred.. but I realized I’m not nearly as traumatized as I used to be anymore.

So they’re being defensive because maybe the stats are correct. Maybe a good chunk of women do have rape fantasies. But they’re leaving out the most important bit of information (per usual)..... that this is often a result of trauma. And if you look at the statistics revolving around the amount of women who experience sexual trauma/violence... these fantasies make sense.

These men are clearly manipulating data to compliment their own narrative and it’s disgusting and goes to show how far these scrotes will go to bust a dirty ass nut.

localgirlcult · 2020-09-30T12:54:14+00:00

I have always despised how they freely call it "rape fantasies". Most of those women do not have rape fantasies. Rape is by definition non consensual. If they want it really badly, how are they fantasizing about rape? They're fantasizing about rough sex that is also safe, with someone they really like. That's what most of that is. But when it comes to women we can't ever miss a chance to sensationalize and make something seem worse than it is so we can feed into the rape not being that bad narrative, while also pretending we're not doing that. It's also not 62% of women. It's 62% of one group of women in a specific part of the world that were interviewed that time. nO kiNKshaMiNG crowd wrong and creepy as always.

2020-09-30T17:10:34+00:00

No, 62% of women surveyed have been raped, molested or groomed have unresolved sexual trauma so their sexuality is warped and need extensive therapy. Speaking from personal experience. Men exploiting this trauma for their own sexual gratification is just so typical of them.

2020-09-30T20:29:11+00:00

Rape fantasy is an oxymoron

Palgary · 2020-09-30T12:46:42+00:00

So, here is the link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19085605/

Survey of college students, most likely, respondents at a single college. This is not applicable to the general population.

Science 101: A single study simply provides a foundation for further inquiry. All science is repeatable. If it's not repeatable - something is wrong with the study.

A linked article says other studies have found a response from 31 to 57% depending on who they sample. Most likely college students. Another linked study suggests people respond to the surveys not with their true feelings, but with fantasies "that are consistent with general societal expectations of fantasy content, as opposed to themes characterized by their actual fantasies".

It should also be noticed that "having a fantasy" is in no way, shape, or form, wanting to actually experience the fantasy.

Karolin99_Ger · 2020-09-30T15:14:55+00:00

Most People who are into that are men tho and pickmes who want to Please These sick creatures.... And of course poor traumatized women who have experienced Assault who are then used by These men

shrimpcakewithcrust · 2020-09-30T15:23:13+00:00

What are their studies? Causations? They formulate it like its a good and liberating, dirty secret. Does it say how much % is caused by trauma induced hyper sexuality? Have they mentioned how many of those women had a wound or pain after? Did they also research how many of their partners are actual rapists and misogynists? Did they forget to ask if the women enjoyed it throughly? Did they specify what rape is? I find it so disgusting.

There is no lie that quite a bit in 3rd world countries the studies show that sexual harassment is a compliment, did they say that? Did they mention culture and patriarchy? Did they mention manipulation? Or luxurious upbringing? I hate these studies. If i was a researcher i wouldn't se such a slack, sleazy shit.

diorgasm · 2020-09-30T23:28:23+00:00

🤢

pozzalovah · 2020-09-30T23:59:45+00:00

That's means 62% of women has in some way been abused in their past.

FashionTech537 · 2020-10-01T02:13:25+00:00

This happened to me too, I got labelled for kink shaming

LevelTurbulent · 2020-09-30T16:08:51+00:00

Yeah, being raped is just a little play. How dare you not get off on it!

Fucking degenerates. People used to be ashamed to be like this. Now they want random strangers to celebrate them for it while they jerk off. Disgusting.

BonnieAtMorn · 2020-09-30T13:44:11+00:00

Well, most "rape" fantasies are like the one Marge Simpson has where a handsome pirate kidnaps her and she can 't resist the oh so handsome captain that ends up falling in love with her.

I would say people that fantasise with actual rape are a minority and I'd dare guess one with unresolved issues.

janestnycrk4 · 2020-09-30T13:55:48+00:00

In my case a twisted fantasy life Is to convince my self that the cards I have been dealt isn't all that bad, It cold be worse.

2020-09-30T14:44:06+00:00

“A little play”

xpepperx · 2020-09-30T10:44:30+00:00

I just want to say /r/rapekink is one of those subs where women commonly share their experiences. Not saying it’s right but also don’t discredit those who do. Yes this is absolutely based on trauma and a method of coping. Anyone who knows statistics knows that statistics only show a number but doesn’t tell the whole story! It certainly may be women who have trauma that are unable to cope.

LondonDaPink · 2020-09-30T18:31:48+00:00

I've never had rape fantasies either. Those women's minds must be rotted by porn cuz wtf.

Title	I literally got downvoted and told not to kinkshame because i said i never had rape fantasies. (:(:
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