This is my first post here, so for whoever is reading thank you, and you look great today. I hope you get that raise/promotion and you will ace the coming Midterms or Finals if you’re still in school.

Now for meat and beans. There’s been discussion from the women in this sub where they will admit that they find 90% of men to be unattractive. To me this is fair, it seems your standards are little high but as a fellow person who’s living life and paying taxes (I hope) like everyone else, you are free to have whatever standards you want. The issue is that when the black pill or red pill folks mention an 80/20 or 90/10 rule claiming that women only find only 20-10% of men to be attractive, there is pushback as it’s somehow a negative thing to say even though the women here would admit it. Some would even say that they will go days or even months before they see a man they think is attractive.

What I hear from women is that men don’t put as much effort on themselves as they do. I don’t know where any of y’all are from, but I’m from Miami and I visit New York from time to time and the men there are in the gym, we share skin care routines, visit barbers every two weeks. The guys with long hair usually get their hair braided or get dreads. We buy cologne and we usually get women to help with this as well. And don’t get me started on fashion. The men in my friend group go out dressed to the nines, either formal suits and tuxedos or good old street wear with Jimmy Choos, Bape and even Chrome Hearts from time to time. A lot of us even collect sneakers enough where we can go months without repeating outfits.

A lot of these men are also in relationships and regularly date women. So if these guys are not in the 80 to 90% range of the men women find unattractive, are women here being hyperbolic about finding most men unattractive or is somebody lying? I know the guys my friend group are a small number of men, but I see normal people (men and women) who don’t put in much effort in themselves in relationships as well. Are the women they are dating secretly not attracted to them and it’s a means to an end? Thanks again for reading.