"Misandry is a response to misogyny" is complete BS, and here's proof

normie_john · 2026-04-09T18:01:29+00:00

Using google search trends of very specific and narrow phrases as “proof” might be the most pseudo-intellectual behavior I’ve ever seen

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2026-04-09T17:24:32+00:00

“Misandry” becoming more common in text just means people started using the word more, not that it suddenly surpassed misogyny in society. Same thing happened with terms like sexual harassment. The word goes up when people start naming something, not when it magically becomes more prevalent than everything else.

And this idea that misogyny should’ve peaked in 1920 and then just declined in a neat line doesn’t hold up. Social progress doesn’t work like that. You get gains, then backlash, then shifts in how people talk about it. That’s normal. It doesn’t mean the underlying dynamic disappeared, it means it got challenged and renegotiated.

You’re also treating misandry and misogyny like they’re symmetrical just because both words exist and can be graphed. They’re not. One has been baked into laws, institutions, and norms for a long time. The other mostly shows up as attitudes or rhetoric. Not the same scale, not the same impact.

So what you’re actually showing isn’t that “misandry is worse,” it’s that the language around gender has evolved and people are talking about different things more openly now.

SpookyPutin · 2026-04-09T18:31:12+00:00

Both misogyny and misandry are terrible and women or men can say I'm just responding to the hatred but what does all the name calling actually achieve?

Each time a young man or woman sees these comments they get pushed towards one of the extremes while they haven't done anything. They feel wronged and if they lash out they become part of the problem.

It's a cycle of hate caused by a few people and they simply don't care about any of the damage they've caused. The moment you jump into the mud with them you become part of the problem.

jorts-enthusiast · 2026-04-09T18:20:25+00:00

I find it interesting that the misandry examples you provide are all words and phrases. Meanwhile, misogyny manifested itself in our lack of equal rights, our coming second to fetuses (in some places this is still true) and a prevalence of advertisements and media depicting and encouraging violence against us.

Misandry is a response to misogyny. Because most of those peaks in the words and phrases correlate to a time when our rights and humanity were for some reason up for debate, by men. Men have never faced the same prejudices on the basis of sex. Misandrists are a small portion of the human population who have little to no influence on politics and the real world as a whole. Misogynists have positions of power and influence policy that harms us. Misandry is a reaction by women who are frustrated and upset by the actions of men.

pie-mart · 2026-04-09T18:21:35+00:00

I would assume men called the suffragettes misandrists in their time. They were also called crazy and hysterical.

I think there is definitely some misandry that is a lot worse or more openly anti men. But a lot of the way women say they hate men isn't a real hatred. Just a thing you say with an eye roll to your friend after a guy is sexist or annoying to you. Like "oh, look. Another man flirting with me using sexism"

And now, I cannot condone when a woman says kill all men or something like that

But the thing is. Men actually do kill women. Yes some women kill men too. But most of the time women aren't killing men out of a hatred for men but many men are killing women and people due to their hatred of women.

Like as a white person, if someone said they hated the English or French cuz their country was colonized by them and they are suffering for it... then I won't see it as a true actual hatred for the french or English that is from a genocidal place.

But the British ir the french did genocide in their country and killed their people because the french thought they were inferior.

One actually comitted genocide and the other was genoicided. The one saying they hate the French ir the British never actually did anything to France or england nor do they regularly take anything out on the French. And when they say they hate the French, they don't mean the average French lad and lady but the culture and system of colonization the French had and left behind that still fucks with that individual's life despite the French no longer ruling them/colonizing them

I personally understand that POV of how the opressed will say they hate the oppressor group, not because they hate the individuals but the actual oppression and sexism/racism/xenophobia.

And it is too much to expect people to go "oh, another person who feels superior to me based on how we were born who is actively taking that out on me. I do hate sexism"

Ot is easier to just go to your friend, vent and express you have the oppressors

TinyFlamingo2147 · 2026-04-09T16:51:28+00:00

Cool, now do SWAG and YOLO! I'm curious how often those terms are used now and if they were used before they started getting used irl in my school.

VisibleDig3490 · 2026-04-09T19:40:10+00:00

You sound mentally disturbed. Google trends are not an argument.

SleepyPoemsin2020 · 2026-04-09T17:35:43+00:00

Humans are driven by their perceptions of the world.

When women's issues are prominent, so are the arguments against them. Say, leading up to the 19th amendment, the man next door who you thought was just a nice dude might now admit he doesn't think women should have the right to vote because they're too unstable and emotional. Even your brother may suddenly admit he's against women voting. You make some progress, but in doing so, you are also exposed to a large amount of ugliness, and see more clearly how far away you are from where you want to be. You see with clarity now how much of the population sees you as inferior.

Your graphs also capture a rather superficial understanding of misogyny vs misandry rather than a complete picture. It's also not surprising that hostile feelings are higher for the sex that has felt under the boot of the other. Why be hostile towards something that has little power over you even if you think they're inferior? Now as men are feeling less power compared to women, their hostility is also going up.

It's also unsurprising that anti-woman and anti-man sentiments have overall increased since greater exposure to the opposite sentiment through technology and the Internet, because people are driven by their perception of the world.

So no, it's not a 1:1 misandry only increases when misogyny increases. But I'd argue it's delusional to say that exposure to misogyny doesn't increase misandry. You can see this sort of reactive misandry (or misogyny) repeatedly.

For myself, as a straight woman, I have no innate desire to hate men. My innate desire is to want and trust men. I even ignored the misandry perpetuated by my male relatives as a young woman because I desired the company of men.

Now, I am one of the people on this sub who has been single the longest. Well over a decade. And during that time, I've haunted manosphere spaces that constantly spew misogyny. I have no doubt that this has impacted my choice to stay single, as the only time I have ever struggled with feelings of misandry is due to misogyny and prejudice from men.

Odd-Yoghurt1869 · 2026-04-14T19:53:33+00:00

Misandry is the new norm. It's so normal, most people don't even know there is a name for the normal behavior.

Terrible really.

LillthOfBabylon · 2026-04-09T16:56:21+00:00

Misandrists and Misogynists dont talk the exact same way. Also, youre looking at the most cartoony version of bigotry with your sources.

First of all, common sense time: if misandry were just a reaction to misogyny, in the US at least, it would have peaked just before 1920 (when women got the right to vote)

Women were still being discriminated again, still had no real freedom from men, and martial rape was legal until the 90s.

Necessary-Ad2110 · 2026-04-09T17:42:21+00:00

I really don't think ngrams is the definitive proof you're looking for, misogyny and misandry are so distinct from each other in the way they manifest, are normalized and persist in our society. Maybe you can make a case on "kill all men" but the other three aren't even extreme, and misogyny/misandry by nature are extreme.

You'd need more data and actually take into account sex crimes, gender rights, gender violence and socioeconomic outcomes. And this data won't just be found on ngrams.

And I should say this too but I think the idea that this is a phrase we have to push back against is rather silly. Society by default is designed, built and maintained by men predominantly. It is men who send other men to war, it is men who largely maintain toxic cultural norms and it is men who often enable the plights of "men's rights" to begin with. And granted it is not just men who hold the status quo of course but I do think it'd be irresponsible to shift the focus on a gender war here that does what exactly?

I agree misandry is a problem, but so is misogyny and focusing the conversation on "misandry is worsee!!1" or even inching near this is just weird and counterproductive. We already have a terrible incel pipeline going on, we need to talk about solutions about enabling equity for all rather then fuel the fire to stupid gender wars.

And again, thinking misandry can be boiled down to "men suck!" or "I hate men" and misogyny to "women are trash" or "kill all women" is just so... misguided.

SnooCats37 · 2026-04-09T18:57:48+00:00

Who are you considering the most progressive and least sexist men in history?

Lemon_gecko · 2026-04-09T16:56:54+00:00

Your examples are way too superficial to be proof. For example "men suck" isn't even misandry, it could be frustration.

But the main point we don't see why those statements are made. Just today a guy complained about loneliness in a way that "we will be violent if you don't fuck us". I can say after that that men are entitled...Is this me hating men? Where women raping men in groups? Where are men who scared to walk to their car alone?

You exactly show a reaction, and the action is behind the curtains.

love_in_october · 2026-04-09T17:47:06+00:00

People searching for something on Google more doesn't mean they do it or agree with it more. For example, searches for flat earth went up when the Netflix documentary came out. Searches for international men's day peak on international women's day. People love ragebait and searching for things they know they disagree with.

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penislmaoo · 2026-04-12T00:29:47+00:00

bro how can you be this stupid

Outside_Memory5703 · 2026-04-09T22:50:21+00:00

Please explain why internet data is reflective of the 1920s

It’s also interesting that hostility to oppressors rises after oppression is lifted. Not a logical response ?

badgersonice · 2026-04-11T01:40:28+00:00

if misandry were just a reaction to misogyny, in the US at least, it would have peaked just before 1920

How would you possibly know what levels of misandry women had in the 19-teens?

I bet you have not read literally a single word about men either said or written by any woman from that era, lol. Or the 1950s, for that matter. You have no clue what women thought then and you do not care.

Here’s a quick hint though: the temperance movement and the push for prohibition in the US were heavily female, and a lot of them were very explicit about how drunk husbands treated their wives. You would consider those wives profoundly misandrist for not being submissive and thankful enough for the drunken violence and poverty.

Main-Tiger8537 · 2026-04-09T18:25:23+00:00

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-81567-9

https://www.psypost.org/women-who-hate-men-study-finds-similarities-in-gendered-online-hate-speech-2026-03-26/

"In this context, while the global discourse on online misogyny is well-established12,13,14,15, the phenomenon of misandry remains a relatively underexplored and insufficiently acknowledged facet of the researched digital landscape."

somehow this does not suprise me...

"As also suggested by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misandry), despite being both widespread and detrimental phenomena, misandry does not have the same level of institutional and systemic support as misogyny, in nearly all societies."

soo using wiki as source for this and comparing democracies vs dictatorships globally? this sounds very dubious...

"Wikipedia editor bias stems largely from a non-representative, mostly male, Western-centric, and left-leaning volunteer base, leading to systemic, cultural, and political biases. These biases influence content coverage, framing, and article length. While Wikipedia policies prioritize a neutral point of view, ideological bias is often present, particularly on political topics."

"Our experimental evaluation shows that no systematic differences can be observed when a double perspective, both male-to-female and female-to-male, is adopted, thus suggesting that gendered hate speech is not exacerbated by the perpetrators’ gender, indeed being a common factor of noxious communities."

the evaluation of what gets considered as hate or toxic seems to be the issue as expected... it would have been interesting to see the result with twoxchomosomes + radical feminism subs added to the mix...

at which point misandry starts? "purplepilldebate"

at which point does misandry start? "askwomennocensor"

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2026-04-10T09:10:06+00:00

The whole argument about right to vote is so dumb cause the difference from men and women right to vote instead of just nobles was just over 10 years difference.

That literally means nothing. And the only reason right to vote become more popular was cause of the technology to make books became cheaper to people learn to write and read a lot more what pushed for the industrial revolution.

So the fact voting stuff keeps being put up is so none sense when the difference is literally like 12 years in total.

And now to your actual argument your making that is in fact misogyny pushes misandry and vise versa is very true.

Simple fact look true history how left political views and right political views keep going back and forth over and over and over.

Just like right and left political views so are men and women Interlinked.

Like each side when they have the power they want to push for more privileges and use there leverage so what makes frustration and push people to be radical when pushed to far. And it makes a growing opposing side. Till that side becomes very large and a big sway happens. Thats cause people over play there hand or over use there leverage.

So yes the simple fact misogyny and misanry are deeply linked cause if you a women and get treated badly by a men a bunch of times it wil make you radical against men. And if you are a men and get treated like shit by women a lot it makes the men radical aswell.

And big part off it why it makes one side radical over the other is when a family unit is divided. If people don't have positive both male and female role models. Those bad treatments eat at them and they will lash out especially how in mist of history the side that has power. Try and silence the frustration or suffering of the other side. What helps push radical behavior.

And we all can easily point at cancel culture as one of the many examples where books get banned. So any "wrong think" gets banned or punished a good example even is what going on in the uk. "Wrong think" online posts or Facebook chats or public posts can get people jail time over 500k people already got big fines or jail time.

But there endless examples of similar things true history.

So its easy to point out they are definitely indeed linked. Cause men and women are linked together there 2 sides of the same coin. To say otherwise is foolish.

If you go to any animal and make it have a hard time for just the males or just the females you make the quality of the whole species struggle or collapse. Why population control is often done by focusing on one of the sex of a animal.

So its very easy to put together that it is very definitely linked. And men are to women what women are to men. And how people treat the other side so will the other side treat them back similarly.

Cause again men and women are both sides of the same coin. Thats a undisputed fact.

Title	"Misandry is a response to misogyny" is complete BS, and here's proof
Author	Grow_peace_in_Bedlam
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Date	April 9, 2026 4:45 PM UTC (4 months ago)
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