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Thank you. I call it a "Cost Per Fuck (or CPF) Analysis". I won't date a girl with a CPF Value equal to or higher than 50-65% of the mean average cost of a reasonable prostitute in my city. After all a girlfriend shouldn't cost as much as a prostitute right?

When I start dating a girl I keep track of how much I'm spending on the relationship divided by number of sexual encounters and create a CPF Value line graph in Excel based on the data, noting the overall trend in the CPF Value (down is good, up is bad). I have showed girls their graph before, it works out about as well as you'd expect lmao.

I work in financial services so treating a woman as a quantified, tradable commodity (which arguably is how they treat themselves) is a great way to never have to worry about whether or not I'm getting screwed over.

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That's not his fault tho. If dating wasn't generally treated as a transaction of goods from males for sex from females, then the CPF would hover around zero, dipping into the negative when his gf payed for a date until the next date when he paid where it would peak into the positive again. The fact that the graph can be made and has utility in pricing sex against the price of sex from sex workers says something about gender and dating dynamics in our society. Mainly that sexual opportunities with a female are scarcer than sexual opportunities with a male and that we're horny and live in a society with currency. That's not him commodifying women. That's him dealing with sex from women as it exists as a commodity.

I also find this distasteful. But that's not a personal criticism. It's a social one. Your issue with this isn't that he's a dick. It's that you'd prefer a society that practices courtship instead of dating because you find the commodification of sex from women under dating distasteful.

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As demeaning as I realize you're trying to be, the reality is is that a lot of only fans models invest a good bit of money, sure it doesn't cost to just post using your mobile phone as the camera, but you're also not going to make any money. It is actually a legitimate business, because they make some legitimate money. A lot of the girls on there think that their tits are going to make them rich and it doesn't work, they actually do have to invest, not just in equipment but also in various companies who handle advertising, photo touch ups, and so on. I love how you like to think that it's that easy but it isn't, regardless of the downvotes that my post here is going to receive. Not all the girls on only fans by any means are what you would call an entrepreneur, and a lot of them think that it's easy money, it might be for the first few weeks but they aren't going to have a lasting sit with it.

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Taking pictures with a phone you already own doesn't take time and doesn't cost shit

Just verifiably untrue, and that's just not a realistic representation of a good OF page anyways. If it's that easy, ask yourself why most OF pages make fuck all money and quit after like a week lmao. Creating a good amount of content, figuring out upload schedules and actually sticking to those schedules, advertising, and not to mention the time you have to put in to actually signing up for OF, getting verified, etc. It's a lot of work when you're just starting out. Getting noticed and advertising probably being the biggest challenge.

buying a new camera after having made profits contradicts the definition of the word. It isn't a risk anymore, because you've already made your money

lol wut... That makes so little sense lmao, why wouldn't that apply to any amount of money you've ever made? No, it's still a risk. If you don't have a lot of money, such as someone living paycheck to paycheck, the decision to spend that money on a better camera is absolutely a risk. I mean you'll also notice the definition does not include "taking of financial risks that u/AlbanianGypsie perceives as significant."

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I'm advocating for a) not being filthy pirate hooker on the internet and b) being smart enough to avoid dating someone who is a filthy pirate hooker on the internet. Doing things that tell people "a look at my vagina is worth about tree-fiddy" is a great way of communicating that your only true value as a person is as a hole for a cock and even that little bit of value isn't worth much because you're willing to trade it for dollar store prices. Worse yet, dollar store prices are about the best you could expect unless you're actually of above average appearance because every other e-thot in the world is doing the same thing causing supply to outpace demand. The New York Times even had a story recently about how selling your ass online isn't lucrative because every Karen and Becky in the world is doing it.

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What???

Yes?

Not only is that a baseless assumption about her, but what made you think that’s why she was calling him a dick?

On the contrary, he asserted that he will not take her to dinner again, because she is using her body as a transactional device to extract money, when he is having to spend more for her to have access to her body. Therefore, he is implying implicitly that it is unfair for him to have to spend more money, to something which she gives away to other men at a much greater discount.

In conclusion, she called him a dick, because if he allowed it to continue, it would imply he has low standards; i.e., he is happy for other men to pay to have access to her body. A man with standards, would not tolerate such a thing from anyone; instead, he would insist on exclusivity.

What made you think he has high standards in the first place?

The fact that he was spending 200 on her each time he took her out to dinner. If he had low standards, then he would take her to McDonalds, or not even take her out at all.

In conclusion, his ability to spend 200 a night taking a woman out to dinner, implies that he is a fairly high earner, thus his standards are reflected by the fact he was happy to use a large amount of his resources on buying dinner for a woman he was courting.

He’s literally saying he’d prefer to spend his night wanking to her OnlyFans rather than going on a date with her

On the contrary, he did not say that he will, he said that he can. The premise behind this statement, is that he is being taken for a ride by a woman who was extracting 200 in resources from him, and then giving strangers access to her body for a massively discounted price. Therefore, you committed a strawman logical fallacy e.g:

He argued X
You argued X implies Y
You then attacked Y, instead of X

An argument presupposed on a logical fallacy is unsound; therefore, your rebuttal is unsound.

a girl he clearly is attracted to and who is clearly attracted to him

Does not negate the fact that, she is selling her body to strangers online. This is the root cause of his issue. Not the price, but the fact she is giving other men access to her naked body, rather than giving him exclusivity.

simply because it’s more efficient...

That's not the premise behind his argument. The premise behind his argument, is the fact she is selling her naked body online to strangers, instead of offering him exclusivity.

This is why he’s a dick lol

Name calling does not refute an argument, but simply demonstrates that a person is unable to refute a persons argument with any other rhetorical device. It's called the Argumentum Ad Hominem logical fallacy. He may be a dick, he may not be a dick; either way, his argument is valid based on the antecedent & consequent, but not on what or who he is.

it’s the most pathetic shit I’ve ever heard

Subjective.

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Wow. I mean wow, this entire thing reads like an 8th grade essay, lots of padding and very little substance, you could condense this down into like two or three sentences and still come off as just as smart, I promise. Oh and I know you’re jumping at the chance to pull out your logical fallacy website and lecture me about insults, you don’t need to, I know. Also... are we looking at the same post??? I feel like you’re talking about something different

he asserted he will not take her to dinner because she is using her body as a transactional device to extract money

Assuming he takes offense by her work, just because you clearly seem to.

low standards; i.e., he is happy for other men to pay to have access to her body. A man with standards, would not tolerate such a thing from anyone; instead, he would insist on exclusivity.

Assuming this is what “low standards” means just because you don’t like sex workers, also assuming that all partners of sex workers have low standards. Why and how is that low standards? How is that breaking exclusivity if he has previously agreed to it and said he is comfortable with it? Do all women who allow others to see their nipples break exclusivity? Do nude models break exclusivity? Do people who go to nude beaches break exclusivity?

Also, it’s pretty clear he doesn’t share your irrational distaste for sex workers. You’ll note he says “I don’t judge anyone,” and “I think that’s pretty cool and entrepreneurial.” If only you were as open minded

thus his standards are reflected by the fact that he was willing to use a large amount of his resources on buying dinner for a woman he was courting

Assuming that “willing to spend more money” = higher standards

The premise behind this statement, is that he is being taken for a ride by a woman who was extracting 200 in resources from him, and then giving strangers access to her body for a massively discounted price.

Assuming that he feels the same as you about sex workers. I see what you mean though, and I suppose this is more up to interpretation. However, given that he doesn’t share your prejudice against sex workers due to him actually complimenting her and her work, I feel like my interpretation makes more sense, yours is based on the assumption that he feels the same way about sex workers that you do.

This is also clearly not the same thing, spending $200 on a date and then getting laid is pretty different than spending $7 on an OnlyFans. The former is a mutual romantic and potentially sexual interaction, the latter is a business transaction on her part, you’re acting like they’re the same lmao

I also want to point out and admire the words you use... “she’s extracting resources from him,” extract...? I can’t tell if this is you trying to sound smart or your deep seated anger towards sex workers coming out so that you don’t realize how ridiculous you sound.

Does not negate the fact that, she is selling her body to strangers online

Not a fact, it’s false. She’s selling pictures and videos. You can’t sell people on OnlyFans, at least not to my knowledge

giving him exclusivity

Assuming they’re even in a relationship that requires exclusivity. Are they dating? Married? To me it sounds like this is their first or second date, which would not necessarily require exclusivity.

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Wow. I mean wow, this entire thing reads like an 8th grade essay, lots of padding and very little substance, you could condense this down into like two or three sentences and still come off as just as smart, I promise.

On the contrary, it would regard it as disingenuous to avoid addressing all of your points in a logical manner.

Assuming he takes offense by her work, just because you clearly seem to.

It offended him enough to end the courtship with her.

Assuming this is what “low standards” means just because you don’t like sex workers, also assuming that all partners of sex workers have low standards. Why and how is that low standards? How is that breaking exclusivity if he has previously agreed to it and said he is comfortable with it? Do all women who allow others to see their nipples break exclusivity? Do nude models break exclusivity? Do people who go to nude beaches break exclusivity?

The expectation of exclusivity in a relationship is a standard. It's probably the most common standard that all courtships start with.

Also, it’s pretty clear he doesn’t share your irrational distaste for sex workers. You’ll note he says “I don’t judge anyone,” and “I think that’s pretty cool and entrepreneurial.” If only you were as open minded

Firstly, to describe me as having an "irrational distaste for sex workers", is a personal attack on me, rather than on my argument. I never expressed a distaste for sex workers, I expressed a distaste for refusing to give a person exclusivity in a relationship.

Assuming that “willing to spend more money” = higher standards

Willing to spend more, implies he is investing more in the relationship.

Assuming that he feels the same as you about sex workers. I see what you mean though, and I suppose this is more up to interpretation. However, given that he doesn’t share your prejudice against sex workers due to him actually complimenting her and her work, I feel like my interpretation makes more sense, yours is based on the assumption that he feels the same way about sex workers that you do.

You keep making this a personal attack on me; e.g., "your prejudice against sex workers", rather than attacking the premise and conclusion of my argument. If you are simply unable to refute my argument, then just say so.

This is also clearly not the same thing, spending $200 on a date and then getting laid is pretty different than spending $7 on an OnlyFans. The former is a mutual romantic and potentially sexual interaction, the latter is a business transaction on her part, you’re acting like they’re the same lmao

On the contrary, I never said they were the same thing; this is you strawmanning my argument e.g:

I argued X
You argue X implies Y
You then attack Y, instead of X

Exclusivity in courtship, includes exclusivity of sexual activity. Selling naked pictures to strangers is a form of prostitution; therefore, sexual activity.

I also want to point out and admire the words you use... “she’s extracting resources from him,” extract...? I can’t tell if this is you trying to sound smart or your deep seated anger towards sex workers coming out so that you don’t realize how ridiculous you sound.

Again, you keep engaging in Argumentum Ad Hominem; i.e., attacking the person, intead of the person's argument. This is how an argument is valid and sound:

P -> Q
P
.: Q

If P is true, and Q is true as a consequence of P being true; and, there is no scenario in which Q is false when P is true, then the argument is valid and sound. However, you keep repeating the same logical form of:

¬P -> ¬Q because person X is Y

X & Y are not congruent with P & Q, it's a misuse of logic. All you do by reiterating Argumentum Ad Hominem, is demonstrate that you have no other rhetorical device with which to refute an argument.

Not a fact, it’s false. She’s selling pictures and videos. You can’t sell people on OnlyFans, at least not to my knowledge

She is producing and selling pornography which includes herself in the images and videos. Therefore, she is engaging in prostitution; i.e., selling her body to strangers.

Assuming they’re even in a relationship that requires exclusivity. Are they dating? Married? To me it sounds like this is their first or second date, which would not necessarily require exclusivity.

Does not negate the fact that she is courting him, whilst also selling naked pictures to strangers online.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is never get involved in a land war in Asia. But only slightly less well known is this, never get into a battle of the wits with me.

[tips hat and strolls away whistling]

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He didn't say he wouldn't go out with her because she was below his standards; he said it's because he can just sub to see her naked.

On the contrary, the premise of his argument is that she is giving her body away to strangers online, rather than offering him exclusivity. Therefore, he is directly implying that he has standards; e.g., not wishing to date a woman who prostitutes herself to strangers.

That implies that the only reason he wants to go on a date is to see her naked, which in her opinion makes him a dick.

On he contrary, he did not state such a thing. The premise of his rebuttal was that she is letting other men see her body naked.

Just because someone has nudes online, or even if they sell them, doesn't mean there is no reason to date them.

Selling nudes online is provide a sexual service in exchange for money; i.e., prostitution. A woman being a prostitute, is a legitimate reason for a man not to date her; e.g., people prefer exclusivity in a relationship.

Among literally many benefits of a relationship, you could at very least have sex with them which you can't from a sub

You are presupposing this rebuttal with relativism; i.e., exclusitity is relative to each person; some regard selling nudes are ok, some regard full sex as ok. Either way, it is still relative, rather than objective. It is an objective fact, that he wanted exclusivity whilst courting her, she was not prepared to offer him exclusivity, so he acted the gentleman and laid his cards on the table, rather than just ghosting her for being a prostitute whilst they were courting.

the guy's just a fucking retard.

Argumentum Ad Hominem.

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You can justify anyway you want to, anyway that helps you sleep at night. As far as I'm concerned selling sex is prostitution, it maybe a softer version of the real thing.

Let's say pornography has two classes sort porn and hard porn, well we don't need to say because it does, now regardless of whether it's soft porn or hard porn it's still porn.

This, as far as I'm concerned applies just the same to only fans, anybody selling sex, is engaging in prostitution, whether or not they are in the room with somebody doesn't matter, any woman selling herself on only fans is a prostitute, soft yes, soft prostitution yes but prostitution all the same.

You can justify it all you want, you can subscribe and justify it and claim you shouldn't be ashamed of it, put it on your CV or your Facebook profile then. Or you can be one of the women selling yourself on there, again justify it and claim it's nothing to be ashamed of, also state that clearly in your bumble bio then.

And you see here's where the argument gets to, no matter which side of the aisle you're on, you won't do that because you know it is something you're ashamed of, you know that the vast majority judge it as a form of prostitution and if you buy it you're a grubby loser, of you're selling you're a cheap whore..

I really don't care which, and I don't care how you justify it, I know that any woman with an account will never enter into my life, if she does she certainly won't stay there for longer than it takes for me to find out.

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You're really upset about this.

I was mostly pointing out that the normal dictionary definition of prostitution is exchanging sex for money. Nude photos and movies isn't sex. Therefore only fans isn't prostitution. However it is considered sex work.

Personally I wouldn't seriously date someone who had an only fans site. My brain would look at that as a form of cheating, even if she only ever did solo stuff and kept the work and home life completely separate. My own insecurity wouldn't allow it.

As for your view, you remind me of some of the rants I heard from our Afghan interpreters. They viewed women as property. Your view point isn't there yet. But I think if you were left in an echo chamber of people who think like you, you would arrive to the same conclusion. Chill out. Let people do what they want with their bodies, so long as they are not hurting others.

You talk about people being ashamed of doing sex work. I don't know any prostitutes, so I can't speak for them. But the strippers I've known were proud that they could do what they do. Beyond the money, they enjoyed stripping at the club. The only hesitation they had telling people what they did was some people reacted badly when finding out they were strippers. They would get long rants and stalkers online, and a lot of in person people would start acting weird around them. I imagine they were afraid of people like you. Maybe if we could get people to leave other people alone, sex workers in general would be less fearful of getting found out.

Anyway, I wish you a happy life, even if I do strongly disagree with you on this.

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you can justify it any way you want to

It wasn’t a justification or an attempt at a justification, it’s a fact. Prostitution is having sex for money, OnlyFans and online sex work is selling pictures, videos, etc. It’s possible to do both, but selling pictures isn’t prostitution in itself.

any woman selling herself on OnlyFans is a prostitute

Then you’ll be happy to know absolutely 0 women have sold themselves on OnlyFans, considering the fact that all women who do it still have full control and ownership over themselves and their bodies.

put it on your CV or Facebook

you won’t do that because know it’s something to be ashamed of

So I assume your Facebook is full of the intimate details of your sex life? Your CV contains the number of times you’ve eaten ass? If not, you’re a hypocrite, because you clearly also do sexual things you’re not willing to put on your Facebook and CV, which by your logic makes it morally wrong. Your logic of “if you wouldn’t put it on your Facebook or CV, you’re actually ashamed of it, and therefore it’s wrong” is so flawed that ironically it loops around to working against you, considering online sex workers do make some aspects of their sex lives public.

no woman with an account will ever enter my life

Bullet dodged for them.

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CV is used to summarize all your education, qualifications and career

True! Almost like it has nothing to do with morality.

That's the point he was trying to make

No, their point was: if you wouldn't put it on your CV or Facebook profile, it's because deep down you're ashamed of it, and since you feel shame, it must be morally wrong. They said "you can justify it all you want and claim you shouldn't be ashamed of it, put it on your CV or your Facebook profile then," because they're trying to imply you wouldn't do so out of shame, and since you feel shame for it, it must be morally wrong.

My argument was simply applying this logic to their life. Would you put your sex life on your CV or Facebook? No? Well then, by their logic, it's because you're ashamed of what you did, and since you feel shame for it, it must be morally wrong.

Only fans is not a respectable thing to be added in your CV

I mean I don't disagree in most cases, however that's only a reflection of our society and narrow mindedness. People (like yourself, ironically) are more than willing to insult and shame sex workers for their work, and yet when they try to seek what you would consider "respectable" employment, they are turned down due to their past. Ironically, this only tends to trap them in the sex industry.

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. People (like yourself, ironically) are more than willing to insult and shame sex workers for their work, and yet when they try to seek what you would consider "respectable" employment, they are turned down due to their past. Ironically, this only tends to trap them in the sex industry.

I guess i will start murdering people for money then, and after killing over a 50 people then i will put that on my CV and ask to be not judged on my past. How would that sound?

My argument was simply applying this logic to their life. Would you put your sex life on your CV or Facebook? No? Well then, by their logic, it's because you're ashamed of what you did, and since you feel shame for it, it must be morally wrong.

Yeah, sex life is not equal to career choices or are you implying only fans is a sexual thing? In that case i agree and my decision of calling them "whores" was right.

Also ii wouldn't out my sex life on Facebook because it's something intimate, and I don't think publically sharing this with people i don't know is a good thing.

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I guess I will start murdering people for money

Right, because on an ethics and morality scale, OnlyFans is right next to murder... Do you even hear yourself...?

I really don't understand what you're trying to say with the rest of your comment, but again, their point was: if you wouldn't put it on your CV or Facebook profile, it's because deep down you're ashamed of it, and since you feel shame, it must be morally wrong. They're using what you'd put on your CV or Facebook as a standard for right and wrong, they're saying if you wouldn't put it there, it must be wrong. They said "you can justify it all you want and claim you shouldn't be ashamed of it, put it on your CV or your Facebook profile then," because they're trying to imply you wouldn't do so out of shame, and since you feel shame for it, it must be morally wrong. I just applied this logic to their life. Would you put your sex life on your CV or Facebook? If not, then by their logic, it's because you're ashamed of what you did, and since you feel shame for it, it must be morally wrong.

I wouldn't out my sex life on Facebook because it's something intimate

You're making my point for me...

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So i am right to call them a whore

No... You're wrong, both in a literal sense and in a moral sense. Girls who do OF not only do not meet the definition of "whore," but you're also in the wrong from an ethical pov considering you're actively trying to be rude to random people. And no, you're making my point for me in that you're agreeing with me, you're saying you wouldn't put intimate details of your sex life in your Facebook or CV, but that doesn't make them morally wrong. It's almost like Facebook and CV aren't guidelines for morality...

if you can equate sex life to professional life

When...?

I can equate whoring and murder

You did, and it was equal parts nonsense and hysterical. I'd really like to hear how you think they're equally wrong. I mean you hear "girl selling nudes" and you think "this is murder"

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What a pathetic argument, comparing apples with oranges

This is why people like you should stick with only fans because you cannot make a single logical argument.

A person's sex life and a person's job are two different things.

Selling sex, photos, video, the real thing, it's all within the same sphere as far as I'm concerned.

0 women have soled themselves, sorry but that's a lie and a blatant lie also, a few women have in fact slept with subscribers to their accounts, so yes they very have sold themselves.

As for bullet dodged, I really don't care. If you think they've dodged a bullet by not having anything to do with me, great fantastic, brilliant, as far as I'm concerned a whore is a whore, I don't have anything to do with whores so it's no loss to me.

Try again, your insults are like your arguments.

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What a pathetic argument

As opposed to yours, you mean? Everything you're saying is entirely based on insults and assumptions, your comment is so full of rage towards sex workers it's barely coherent lol

A person's sex life and a person's job are two different things.

True!!! However, that's not the point of what I'm saying. Your argument was that if you wouldn't be willing to put something on your CV or Facebook, it's because you're ashamed of it, and since you're ashamed of it, it must be morally wrong. You're using a CV and Facebook as a method of determining whether or not something is right or wrong, saying if you wouldn't be comfortable with it on there, you shouldn't do it. You wouldn't be willing to put details of your sex life on your Facebook or CV. Does this mean you are ashamed of your sex life, and it is morally wrong?

Selling sex, photos, video, the real things, it's all within the same sphere

Depends what you mean by "sphere." If you mean "sex work," then you would be right. This is why we call people in the sex industry "sex workers."

a few women have in fact slept with subscribers to their accounts, so yes they very have sold themselves

You assume because one OnlyFans girl apparently has had sex for money, the girl in this post has. You have no proof, all you know about this girl is she has an OnlyFans, nothing more. Furthermore, even if she did have sex for money, she did not "sell herself," considering she still has full ownership and control over herself and her body.

comparing apples to oranges

as far as I'm concerned a whore is a whore

The irony here... You're not only comparing apples to oranges, you're attempting to insult apples by calling them oranges and then pretending like you have an intellectual or moral high ground. You're quite literally not "calling a whore a whore," seeing as how the girl in the text is quite literally not a whore, seeing as how you have no proof that she has sex for money, you just assume she does.

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I'm not claiming any high ground here

This is why people like you should stick with only fans because you cannot make a single logical argument

anyway that helps you sleep at night

you won't do that because you know it is something you're ashamed of

you buy it you're a grubby loser, of you're selling you're a cheap whore

I know that any woman with an account will never enter into my life, if she does she certainly won't stay there for longer than it takes for me to find out

intentionally picking a derogatory term to refer to sex workers

This is what claiming a high ground looks like. You clearly think you're above both sex workers and their customers, on both a moral and intellectual level.

as far as I'm concerned having an only fans is no different to being a prostitute on a street corner

A whore is a whore

Whore is a derogatory term for women who have sex for money. Women who only do OnlyFans do not have sex for money. Again, you're calling an apple an orange in an attempt to insult it.

You'd proudly display it to the world because it's nothing to be ashamed of, right?

You'd proudly display intimate details of your sex life to the world because it's nothing to be ashamed of, right?

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That's fine, there's tons of valid reasons not to be interested in being in a relationship with someone that does sex work of a lot of varieties.

for me I'd rather not have a prostitute in my life, call me old fashioned but I have standards.

But "standards" is a weird one. It's weird because it makes it look like you think they're beneath you in some way when it's just a job. I mean swap this with just about any other line of work and it hits kinda strange (to me at least).

Drawing the equivalence between OF and prostitution also makes it easier to make that interpretation. They're both sex work but some of the very real issues that plague prostitution aren't present with OF work. They're absolutely different, unless you were trying to draw some moral equivalence or you mean something else?

[–]akihonj1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What a bullshit argument to make

My CV shows my engineering background, my military background, all things to be proud of to talk about and to show off.

Being able to get tag teamed and reamed by three men in one go while giving two others a handy isn't something that I look for when I'm interviewing candidates for a job.

Sorry but if I had a candidate sat in front of me declaring their proudest time in employment was when they took an hour long video of swallowing a horse dildo while calling out to daddy for a video for payment I can assure you they absolutely would not get the job.

Go away and have another think about your argument, if you want to show your vagina to anyone who offers you money that's on you but do not present it or even pretend it's something to be proud of or that it's like any other job because it actually very much isn't like any other job, it actually isn't something to be proud of, as I've said already if it were you'd all have no issue putting it down on your CV, you'd have no issue putting it into your dating profile bio, and you'd never for a second agonize over whether or not to tell your date.

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But that's not an argument that I made. Who's talking about pride? Who's talking about applying to jobs outside of an intended career path?

If you want to discuss this we can, but it's a pivot from the original point.

Being able to get tag teamed and reamed by three men in one go while giving two others a handy isn't something that I look for when I'm interviewing candidates for a job.

On that note, it's kind of weird that you care far more about someones irrelevant work history rather than the qualifications for the exact job that they're applying to. As a hiring manager I certainly wouldn't want you interviewing candidates if you're not going to consider their merits and contributions to the job.

You're also only giving anecdotal examples of women, but this applies to men that have done sex work as well.

it actually isn't something to be proud of, as I've said already if it were you'd all have no issue putting it down on your CV,

Despite you also admitting that you help create the conditions that would lead people to exclude this (i.e. it doesn't matter if they're proud, if someone else is gonna screw them for it then they won't include it) there's other factors for this. I don't know about you, but I don't put down only the jobs that I've done that I'm proud of in an application/CV, I put down only the relevant and recent work history because that's all that should really matter.

Job interviews aren't for jacking yourself off, they're for demonstrating aptitude for a position.

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Hella satanic vibes?

Satanic Panic*

Yeah pornstars get married, doesn't mean everyone has to respect that line of work and date someone who does it regardless.

Why disrespect it? They're providing value to people that are willing to pay for it, so what?

Nobody is saying that you have to date someone that does sex work. That's a boundary that some people have and there are good reasons for it. But acting like that alone makes them "easy" or that their moral character is compromised in some way for it is just pure silliness.

Also, who things "guy" is derogatory at the end of a sentence. Same idiots who say pal, bud, chief?

I'm not sure what your complaint is here, but I was just trying to be friendly and non-hostile because people here take this shit WAY too seriously. If I mis-gendered you then sorry bout that.

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They can try - but there is a problem.

Access to your body is a very precious thing. There is a reason the right to bodily autonomy is one of the undeniable human rights in the eyes of the West.

If a woman sells access to her body, she simply does not respect herself in a healthy way. Being close to her simply goes to the highest bidder, which devalues her as a person. Also, since sharing intimacy with your partner is one of the pillars of a healthy relationship, you can take an educated guess how much a potential boyfriend will value said intimacy when literally anyone can buy that for a few bucks a month.

Here is the thing: Through aggressive shaming, lies and cheap double standards, a lot of men will hesitate to say this out loud, but: Most of us detest women who sell themselves. We would rather not waste our commitment on them, because intimacy with them isn't worth spit.

So short answer: They can do both, but (in my opinion rightfully so) they usually fail at doing both.

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Probably fake, and honestly, unnecessary for this forum. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say the proliferation of OF and the way these girls infiltrate every corner of the internet is fucking maddening. Can’t even visit a YouTube comments section any longer without some thot hawking her OF. And yes, I saw that just last night.

That being said, as much as I dislike it, there are two factors at play. One, pandemic. Shit exploded. A lot of girls saw it as a way to pay their bills when they had relatively few options. The fuck I’m gonna look down on someone for trying to put food on the table during difficult times. I really fucking hate the OF phenomena, but hate the game, don’t hate the player. Second, there’s a massive contingent of degenerate fucks out there who pay for this shit - that’s why they do it. It’s the same reason the scammers from India call me weekly to inform me the IRS is on my ass but I can settle for pennies on the dollar with them. You dig? People stop throwing money at these girls and the situation resolves itself. If people were to stop paying the telephone scammers it would stop as well, but it’s likely never going to happen because a large swath of our population is weak and stupid.

I know a woman who up until the pandemic was a full time stripper. Beautiful woman now in her late 30’s - smart, MBA, has her shit together. She worked 3-4 nights a week and was making 3-5K/night just for flashing her boobs. She’s a millionaire now. Do I blame her for taking the path she did? Not one bit. Pandemic retired her from the profession, but now she has capital to work with and will come out WAY ahead when the dust settles from this whole pandemic. I actually admire the shit out of her for what she’s done. If I could have gotten people to pay me that kind of money for 15 years to look at my schlong I don’t think I would have said no.

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Yeah, read down to the typical incel insult. Honestly who the fuck cares about your rinse and repeat comment. Ffs you retards sound like a broken record and it's honestly fuckin pathetic you can't come up with an actual comment without repeating the same braindead shit that's constantly spouted by cocksuckers like you. I mean, holy hell, how many times have you used that same line and jacked off to yourself thinking you just nailed somebody with that insult. Or the idea it's even true and when you have no clue how many times that person has hooked up with different chicks.

As pathetic as the idiots who jump on calling you white knights... Pedantic and repetitive.. great you proved nothing hot shot.

Oh, I made another comment.. check my history on guys doing this shit and pretending it's work too so that kind of destroys your little feminist bitchfest argument. Lol

The irony here.. it's not your problem either. Yet you chose to come back at me like the bitch you are acting like it is. You and the other idiots in this thread don't go spraining your wrists jacking each other off too hard over your top tier comments.. or your fingers.. considering the micro dicks. See, I can assume shit here too. Mines more than likely true though.

Loves and kisses. Xoxo.

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whore, hoe, prostitute, sex worker

but the girl in the original post is exactly that a shameless person selling sex for money

Except you don't know that, all you know is she has an OnlyFans, and based on that information she isn't selling sex, she's selling pictures and videos. This means three out of four words wouldn't even apply to her. This is why sex worker is used, it's more inclusive of all types of sex work.

that's why i used it... keep your condescending tone to yourself

Ironic that you would try to lecture someone about being rude when you've just whipped out every derogatory word you know so you can insult a random person. The fact that you would intentionally choose a derogatory term is pretty revealing, however you mistake condescension for education. I don't tend to assume people are assholes, so if they make honest mistakes and slip ups like you just did, it's good to inform them how their word choice comes off, so they know better for next time.

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On a moral level, I really don't care, I only care who I associate with and how their behaviour damages my reputation.

If that's claiming the moral high ground to you, then fuck it yeah I'm better, I'm better by a country mile.

I'm better because I work hard for an honourable job, something that I can be proud of, not something that I have to hide or worry that I'll be judged for.

So in that regard yeah I'm morally superior, I'm morally superior because society says that I am, I'm morally superior because those who do have an only fans account and won't put it in their dating bio, agonise over whether or not tell the person they are dating that they have or have had an account because of what that man will do make me morally superior.

Does that feel good to you, because I have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to hide. When I meet somebody I can tell them straight away what I do without any fear that they'll judge me. In fact most don't even understand what I do so I have to explain it to them, but that's a far cry from hiding it because I'm afraid the person I day it to is going to clearly physically change towards me, their face change to let you know they think they are sitting next to a whore.

So yes I am morally superior, I'm morally superior because you are making me such by trying so hard to justify it, as I've already said if there were nothing to be justified my opinion wouldn't matter to you.

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Title	Maths
Author	BackAlleyKittens
Upvotes	12830
Comments	717
Date	May 22, 2021 6:40 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/nip3cm/maths/
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