Only women's dating problems are solvable

Jakes1967 · 2021-07-03T20:38:32+00:00

Only women's dating problems are solvable

The current sexual market place is women's creation, thus the remedy of MAN UP won't work.

Any_Championship_654 · 2021-07-03T17:56:44+00:00

No one's problems are fully solvable, at best we can reach a compromise in society that satisfies most of either gender's needs. I don't know what that compromise would be though.

Men and women's sexual strategies are directly at odds with each other, save for the cream of the crop for either gender. Until gene editing can make us all into 10/10s at least.

Goodthingstartssmall · 2021-07-03T21:44:10+00:00

No ones problems are solvable but we know which problems society at least tries to solve.....

2021-07-04T14:01:53+00:00

Getting approached by creepy men or are men being too forward? Stop the harassment! The men you reject aren't taking it well? Let's shame the Nice Guys! Society regularly helps ensure women are kept away from unsafe men.

You're minimizing what women mean when they talk about these things. Since you aren't being honest about it, this makes your entire argument suspect.

And do predators and crazy men who can't take no for an answer suddenly take direction from women and society? I hadn't noticed.

biggestuzifanea · 2021-07-03T17:29:49+00:00

one can rephrase this and say all dating problems are the fault of women

Sid_Insidious · 2021-07-03T19:03:55+00:00

You have to be kidding right?

Right now the industry is flooded with talented jobless professionals due to the fuck ups known as "the great environmental war on energy" and the COVID Pandemic. I've heard employers complain "Well, we're getting 500 to 1000 resumes for each application but it seems harder than ever to find the perfect fit."

Do you know what that means? They're suffering from serious selection bias due to a gross abundance of applicants.

Women don't need men to "push even harder" to meet their ever increasing (and laughable) expectations. Men need to figure out how to get their pussy addictions under control and stop simping for women and tolerating their abundance mentality.

Otherwise, women will continue to become worse and worse narcissistic little monsters.

M_LaSalle · 2021-07-04T04:20:06+00:00

Since men take the active role, they carry the responsibility for what happens.

For some reason this makes me think of a line from an old Cheech and Chong movie. "Responsibility is a heavy responsibility." (Cheech says this shortly before one of them blows up the car.) Men and women both have responsibility no matter how much they refuse to act like it.

Men have a limited ability to improve their relative SMV, but that doesn't translate into a complete inability to solve their problems. Men have the ability to solve any dating problem they inflict on themselves, and in some cases, that can be just one hell of a lot of problems. The same can be true of women as well.

Now excuse me while I go blow up the car.

TheSunshineMan · 2021-07-04T17:00:49+00:00

This means that all of men's dating problems are their fault. Not getting laid? You aren't iniating enough or to the right women. Being ghosted or not making it past the first couple dates? You're not being interesting and seductive enough.

100% this.

I'm too short - no woman will ever date me - there's plenty of short men who sleep with hundreds of women.

I'm too fat - get in the gym and lose weight like millions of others have.

I don't know how to ask a girl out - Google it and figure it out.

I don't know how to escalate with a girl to have sex - Google it and figure it out.

But like most things - business - losing weight - etc - it's a lot easier to just make excuses than doing what it takes to be more successful.

Putting in the work

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-07-03T17:54:04+00:00

All problems are solvable. They just require capable people to solve them.

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WilliamWyattD · 2021-07-04T13:08:30+00:00

Nobody's dating problems are solvable because humans are not entirely psychologically disposed to monogamy. We are torn on this.

Men and women have both similar issues with monogamy and different ones. We have issues on the back-end, with sustaining it. And with the front end, pairing up as many people as possible,

Since dating is about the front end of monogamy, the main issue is female selectivity, which includes hypergamy (however one defines it). There is no perfect solution here, and maybe we don't want one. We need some eugenic arc to sexual selection. But there is a lot of room in the joints. There are things that can be done to lubricate the system and make it easier for a larger portion of both genders to pair up voluntarily. What kind of percentages we get to, and what should be the target numbers, is an open question. As is whether our cultures are capable of doing the things needed to get monogamy back on track given our current hedonistic, secular and individualistic bents.

Strawberry3525_ · 2021-07-05T04:36:49+00:00

Men who are “creepy” or too “forward” don’t really care what society has to say… shaming them into respecting women doesn’t work the way you think it does.

excusemeILY · 2021-07-05T15:12:47+00:00

Oh my god, did you just complain about the fact that as a man you have to do the literal thrusting during sex? What in the world🤣🤣🤣 duuuude, dating problems should be the least of your concerns, you should just take yourself out of the dating pool

CrabBucketSecurity · 2021-07-03T17:52:40+00:00

“Life is essentially an endless series of problems. The solution to one problem is merely the creation of another.”

““If you want to change how you see your problems, you have to change what you value and/or how you measure failure/success.”

“True happiness occurs only when you find the problems you enjoy having and enjoy solving.”

— Mark Manson, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life

TimelessMystic · 2021-07-03T19:16:31+00:00

Men's problems could be solved by the destruction of gender roles. Let men be passive and don't see them as inferior for being feminine. Encourage women to be active and not to be ashamed about being perceived as masculine. Stop pushing people into these antique molds of what it means to be a "man" or a "woman" and let them be free to be however they please without shunning them. Feminism did a great deal about making masculine roles more accessible for women, it's about time men's-right movements made feminine roles more accessible for men.

meltedjuice · 2021-07-03T19:02:10+00:00

She takes an active role in childbearing and child rearing. That’s why the onus is on men to prove they are able and willing to invest time and resources. It’s not rocket science.

AtaCome7821 · 2021-07-03T18:10:29+00:00

The reason those dudes will never be taken seriously is cause they create all sorts of wild and wacky theories. I believe individually a dude needs to take responsibility, I understand the need to vent and get some off your chest but after that you need to make a plan to change it or accept the way it is, never expect others to change for you, if women have unrealistic standards, let them, you just do whatever it can that gives you some satisfaction, stop worrying about things you can't change and start worrying about those you can. I understand the fear that being alone for so long might ruin your chances when someone who actually wants you comes along but again that's something out of your control and it wouldn't matter if you flopped cause you'll be content either way as you'd have learned to be happy on your own anyway.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-07-03T19:07:42+00:00

So in your mind two people are dating and somehow all the responsibility of dating falls on one person because of the kind of genitalia they were born with.

wtknight · 2021-07-03T19:16:57+00:00

Men's problems are solvable because men can be taught what actually does attract women and can them learn to cultivate these traits.

Try_Reasonable · 2021-07-03T18:37:04+00:00

I look at most of these viewpoints from a biological and evolutionary standpoint. A lot of men throughout history have never passed on their genes. A lot of men are not found desirable by women. Whether it be looks, status, wealth, etc.

A lot of the benefits men have had from the past like marriage and having kids is low-key so the woman could survive because women didn't have a lot of options to survive on their own back then. Then before that you had archaic laws like if you commit adultery, you could be stoned to death. Men have had to make women rely on them or threaten women throughout almost all of history. Only now could women not have to rely on a man nor is she going to be ostracized by society for cheating or being a single mother. So, in the past, men REALLY had the upper hand. They structured everything to make it so even the least desirable man could have a wife (arranged marriage, society looked down on single women, women needed to be married to survive) Artificial laws in place.

Now, it's a choice. I think of woman as like electrical outlets. They are passive and they're made for electric plugs. You have the negative (-) women. And the positive (+) men. It just doesn't work the other way around. They are meant to be complimentary but there's a reason why men are the chasers. No matter what goes on in society, the biological and evolutionary traits will prevail. Unattractive genes will always be unattractive. Men are meant to chase women. Women overall have the upper hand because men aren't there to subdue us anymore. Women are the ones choosing, men are the options. It's rarely that it happens the other way around unless women find the male highly desirable. I know it sucks but unless you're one of the very rare men that are highly desirable, this isn't going to be your life. Most men's woes are just because they're not remarkable. They are average or below average. in a pool of men, they are like a C or D or maybe even an F grade. Most men's dating problems are just signaling bad genetics or an inability to make himself noteworthy or remarkable in any sense (poor, uneducated, didn't accomplish much, mediocre, etc)

neetykeeno · 2021-07-03T18:25:13+00:00

The last sentence of your second paragraph...do you seriously think accepting a proposal doesn't suddenly put huge burdens on a woman? Geez...just dealing with the family of the groom throughout the whole wedding planning process is often enough to make a woman want to tear her hair out, get a tubal ligation, call the wedding off, buy a dozen cats and never ever have sex again. Let's face reality...your mother is probably a socially obsessed cunt who wants to blow the wedding out from 40 to 200 people, your father probably doesn't want to pay for any of that, your sister probably wants to be a bridesmaid and create shit with the other bridesmaids even though your intended barely knows her, your aunt probably wants you to put doTerra in all the wedding favours so she can turn a profit, your uncle probably has a dodgy friend he buys meth from who is pressing to be allowed to provide limo service for about twice the usual rate, the kid your family wants to be ring bearer is probably ugly as sin and probably needs an adhd diagnosis....and as soon as the bride puts her foot down she is going to be labelled a bridezilla. And you are fucking useless through all this shitty process because you think you just propose and then la dee fucking da it just happens no stress no muss no fuss.

SaBahRub · 2021-07-03T18:11:49+00:00

Considering that OLD has taken a lot of the approach burden away, and women initiating/splitting/paying has become more common, I’m gonna say nah

Cimorene86 · 2021-07-03T18:58:33+00:00

Men's problems could be solved by teaching the upcoming generations of both sexes about social gender equality. Allow men to be more passive, tell women to be more active.

gimpgirl555 · 2021-07-03T17:28:22+00:00

You're not supposed to actually do it. It's just something people say.

Women are expected to fuck for free and ask questions later. Men taking responsibility just sounds good.

Try doing the opposite of what everyone says.

TheDevilPutD · 2021-07-03T19:44:56+00:00

Omg men have no power. Might as well cut off your balls and dick and become gay.

4everrekt · 2021-07-03T21:40:28+00:00

Not true, a man’s problems can be solved by becoming a winner. Women by comparison are trying to find the winning lottery ticket.

When you play the passive role, many times you’re selecting the default option, which is undoubtedly not the optimal option. I would argue it’s better to be in the active role.

Also, the paragraph on the expectations of men gave me a visceral twinge of disgust from how pathetic it sounds.

As a man, you should be determining how your life is going to play out, independent of other people. You establish your goals/mission, you pursue those goals, and you determine whether you’ll let someone into your life based on whether or not they are compatible with the direction you’re going in. Let’s not buy into being a victim as men.

TakeThePinkPill · 2021-07-03T17:44:26+00:00

pampered men today want to be pursued as women and think being passive is excusable.
your argument is contingent upon women being beautiful of which men do not have to be. If you're not beautiful, your not being approached for relationships. Pink Pill 101
men today have little to offer women but the ones who do offer what they have are dream. The rest of them have unironic expectations of career woman stepford wives in exchange for 50/50 dates they worked past their anxiety to ask for
after all that, men have a need to be respected. I get that, women have needs too. But imagine finding it in you to respect men who complain this much about their little bit of a role. Asking women out. In contrast to what women willingly give men

It's undignified to ask women for pity, tbh

layne89 · 2021-07-03T17:31:33+00:00

Most of women's issues, I'd argue, are also caused by them. When women say they only get approached by creepy men, one or more of the following is usually true:

The men are actually creepy and she needs to stop going to the places these men are frequenting to avoid them
She's using creepy loosely as I do and she just means a man she's not interested in bothering her by approaching
She considers very mild comments creepy such as a compliment on her appearance from a man.

I'd say both men and women have themselves to blame for their dating issues. Women pick the wrong men and put themselves in places the men they want aren't. Going to the local nightclub when you want a highly educated man& LTR is not the best idea. Not being truthful with yourself on who you can get is also another issue.

LeJacquelope · 2021-07-03T18:19:50+00:00

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