Is it possible for a woman to be thin and below-average looking in today’s dating market like it’s possible for men?

Ylduts · 2022-06-11T19:06:57+00:00

If you go outside the US “thin women” become abundant. They aren’t actually thin they are a healthy weight. It’s what normal people look like.

WOPR-1983 · 2022-06-11T20:10:06+00:00

Very few people are actually ugly to me. I'm an average guy, and I see most women my age and it's not their faces that would make me "pass".

9/10 times it's weight.

Some guys seem to obsess with that blonde cheerleader look with the red lips and flappy eye lashes. I find a LOT more women attractive than these guys do.

And conversely, it's surprising how a really pretty face (alone) does not compensate for a very large or obese body.

Blame_the_Muse · 2022-06-11T19:19:53+00:00

You're compared to the people around you. If you're in a social environment where most people are skinny, you don't get any points for being skinny. You just lose points for being fat

cvslengthbucketlist · 2022-06-11T20:13:58+00:00

Of course, unless facial attractiveness suddenly isn't a thing anymore.

CentralAdmin · 2022-06-11T21:34:59+00:00

if she's flat as a board from every angle (no tits, no ass, no hips) and just looks like a 13yr old boy....or if she has a hideous face...

Cupcakelover1985 · 2022-06-11T18:59:57+00:00

Yes if she has an average or unattractive face and she’s flat(flat butt and boobs) she’ll be deemed below average despite being thin.

stlmick · 2022-06-11T19:03:00+00:00

Yes. Absolutely. Skinny doesn't mean attractive. You have eyes.

PlayfulLawyer · 2022-06-11T19:58:03+00:00

Yeah, if she has an unfortunate face and nobody to go along with it, there's thin but still having feminine features nice breasts, nice ass, good thighs, then there's Thin and being a plank

hopeidontforget2021 · 2022-06-11T22:46:26+00:00

This is such an American problem lmao.. and I weep because I'm an American.

I took a vacation to Eastern Europe recently.. All the women were gorgeous. Being in decent shape as young person is baseline. But yeah in America being a thin woman automatically puts you in the top 20%.

HighestTierMaslow · 2022-06-11T23:15:18+00:00

Most men nowadays want a woman with low body fat percentage but big boobs and ass. Very few women naturally have that shape. Consistently weight lifting can help with the butt but boobs are genetic. I'm an average body fat % and curvier now, but when I was younger I was considered thin to quite thin. Alot of men made comments I had a nice waist but my boobs and butt were lacking. I was not flat as a board but not gifted. I tried to explain I can't determine where my body fat goes when I gain it, meaning keeping my waist but gaining 2 cup sizes at the same time, on deaf ears.

koolex · 2022-06-11T21:57:28+00:00

I think in America being thin actually makes you nearly above average automatically since 75% of people are overweight or obese. So a thin women is pretty much in the top 25% automatically for most men IMO, way above average.

I think more-so what you want to ask is can you struggle to get dates and be thin? I would say women will generally get decent attention if they are thin, but yeah for men it's more complicated. There's sometimes like 4-5 times as many men on OLD as women so competition would be stiff even without gender biases. It isn't enough to be just thin, you also have to display a bunch of positive traits and stand out.

If you want a thin woman you should probably also get into the same level of physical shape at the minimum.

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-06-11T19:32:37+00:00

I went out last night with a friend of mine in a very trendy part of NYC. There were all kinds of cute girls with normal average looking guys. Just because the guys were average looking, it didn't mean they acted or dressed like dorks. They all looked cool. Some were heavier some where skinnier. These are just normal guys who have confidence that they have value and self worth and that they bring something valuable to the table. I know shocking!

wtknight · 2022-06-11T19:48:15+00:00

I've seen women like this. Some just don't have very good faces at all. Many can probably hide their poor looks with makeup, though, but that doesn't mean that their faces aren't unattractive compared to other women's faces.

TheMorningJoe · 2022-06-12T05:07:28+00:00

No, because at the end of the day simps will accept anything if it meant the slightest chance they’ll get laid lol

drew8311 · 2022-06-11T19:26:45+00:00

I don’t believe men find every woman that isn’t obese at least as average or Are you guys really that desperate recently?

bluestjuice · 2022-06-12T00:26:41+00:00

Objectively, I’d say yes, but since attractiveness is so subjective and so many men have a strong preference for slimmer vs. heavier women overall, I definitely think being thin is broadly advantageous.

Time_Animaal · 2022-06-12T00:36:27+00:00

The normal BMI girl distribution average is around 6.5, the overweight is around 4 and the obese is around 2.5

AdobiWanKenobi · 2022-06-12T01:50:20+00:00

Do you mean anorexia thin or healthy thin lol?

M_LaSalle · 2022-06-12T09:01:47+00:00

Because of 80/20, women's looks are never going to be judged as harshly as men's. To some extent, women in America have gone on a fat strike. They seem to feel that is all are fat, none are fat, and eventually, you can have fatties in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue because inclusive. They are entitled to be thought beautiful, because telling them they are fat is mean. And maybe there can be enough male thirst that the men will accept their fatness.

But there will always be some number of normal women, and they will go to the head of the line. They are the scabs in the fatout who cross the picket line.

SkookumTree · 2022-06-12T12:58:06+00:00

I suppose this is possible if she is literally deformed or a burn victim. Maybe if she has an extremely ugly face and is freakishly tall. Also, does Marfan syndrome count?

Impossible_Okra_6321 · 2022-06-12T20:28:28+00:00

Because so many people are overweight, is it safe to assume the only way you’ll get with a thin women is if you’re an above-average looking man?

Isn't the proportion of overweight men roughly equal to the proportion of overweight women? A thin man might find it harder to attract a thin woman, if the woman is more concerned with things other than appearance. That would mean a man doesn't even have to be a healthy weight, and can still be with a thin woman, as long as he is above average in non-physical characteristics. But if a particular woman cares a lot about weight, it shouldn't be any harder for a thin man to get a thin woman.

TheChishIsHome · 2022-06-11T21:48:26+00:00

I was an ugly thin. I can't count how many times people would stare at me, or ask "is that a boy or a girl?". I didn't even boobs until I got fat LOL and I still don't have hips. I've also been single a lot. Yet I see huge obese women with horrible personalities (such as talking badly to their man, embarrassing him in public, treating him like a child) and they get guys and keep them forever. There's just nothing to do about it.

You should never assume that you will only get someone if you're awesome, because not everybody wants awesome.

jackedsoon · 2022-06-11T23:15:02+00:00

u gotta be incredibly ugly to as a woman to be below average

Play_Muted · 2022-06-11T18:59:04+00:00

yeah, they can be ugly af or disabled. Both would make them below average.

lilzt · 2022-06-11T21:47:22+00:00

caloric surplus and doing leg day everyday in the gym works. also makeup can help a women to go from below average to average. surgery is a possibility.
its still better to be a below average women in today dating market than a average looking man.

HazyMemory7 · 2022-06-12T00:12:02+00:00

I can't think of a thin woman i've come across off the top of my head i'd consider to be below average. The avg woman is borderline obese is after all though.

2022-06-11T19:09:52+00:00

Bad posture, severe underbite/overbite, really bad teeth, bad skin.

However, a girl with these features is still has a higher smv than a man with the same features.

TheChishIsHome · 2022-06-11T19:17:21+00:00

Yes she can be thin and below average looking, even ugly. But due to hypergamy and the female smv bubble, she will have zero problems when it comes too finding men way or of her league

2022-06-11T19:06:27+00:00

Jesus, yes. Do you guys really need to ask questions like this to know this?

TheMedsPeds · 2022-06-11T22:02:10+00:00

This is a strange question, of course. Thin does not equal pretty. Women can have bad skin, no curves, small but still saggy boobs, acne, big nose, I can go on.

GarbageZestyclose698 · 2022-06-12T01:03:57+00:00

The demographics of this sub is your answer. Most guys on this sub are in their late teens and early twenties. Most women in this sub are over 30

purplish_possum · 2022-06-12T02:48:59+00:00

The world -- including the USA -- is full of ugly thin people.

sarkington · 2022-06-12T04:05:43+00:00

Duh. Face is not body

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Hoopy223 · 2022-06-11T19:58:23+00:00

Sure if they have a goofy face or eyebrows you could hide your car keys in or something. Really though most people even those who are kinda ugly, kinda cute, kinda skinny/fat etc are in fact average.

drew8311 · 2022-06-11T20:04:08+00:00

Yes its just not as common, similar to can an overweight (not obese) woman be above average.

BluePearl2020 · 2022-06-11T20:58:42+00:00

Thin doesn't mean good face

321gumby · 2022-06-11T23:10:23+00:00

Commercial-Engineer3 · 2022-06-12T01:11:06+00:00

hdksndiisn · 2022-06-12T01:43:21+00:00

Yes face matters

MassageGymnist · 2022-06-12T02:21:13+00:00

Ya come to Kansas. Plain janes everywhere

MassageGymnist · 2022-06-12T02:52:07+00:00

Serving face card

sweetestpineapple · 2022-06-12T04:48:29+00:00

Yes. I’m a thin woman who’s below average looking. Even though weight can usually be controlled, it seems to matter less to men than shape. Most guys I know personally need a girl to have a butt and boobs to be attracted to her, and if that comes with a little extra weight it’s fine. Of course some thin women have curves, but boyish/rectangle shaped women are often overlooked.

Khanluka · 2022-06-12T05:59:28+00:00

Imo if i walk around and take my age group. 80% woman are attraive enough even if there overweight. Being truely ugly as a woman is pretty rare.

lllilliilllill · 2022-06-12T11:32:16+00:00

yeah of course. just because you lack a negative attribute doesnt mean your great. You can be repulsive without being fat, especially because of your face. at that point it doesn’t matter what your body looks like. Not being fat isnt a positive. Its a prerequisite to not be considered physically repulsive, but not the only one.

just because there are so many dude willing to fuck them doesnt mean they set the standards. Plenty of disgusting women get sexual attention, but that doesnt translate to any improved rating outside of attracting these weirdo dudes, because these guys fuck anything but provide no value outside of it because if they did, they wouldnt deal with these women.

Available-Ad-9338 · 2022-06-13T04:41:58+00:00

Is this a serious question? Yes, you can be young, thin and ALSO have an ugly face.

Title	Is it possible for a woman to be thin and below-average looking in today’s dating market like it’s possible for men?
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Date	June 11, 2022 6:55 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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