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Club bans staring without 'consent' & hires 'officers' to police venue

IronJohnMRA

August 25, 2022
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Title Club bans staring without 'consent' & hires 'officers' to police venue
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IronJohnMRA

Upvotes 699
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Date August 25, 2022 12:25 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]MAGA-Latino 319 points320 points321 points 3 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link

Wait so people can't even look at each other anymore?

[–]rollypollyolie 159 points160 points161 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

To predatory to use your eyes.

Those eye fuckings have really gone too far and crossed a line

[–]WolfShaman 63 points64 points65 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not consensual, so it's on par with rape.

[–]Daiku_Coffee 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please please tell me you forgot to put an /s on the end.

[–]WolfShaman 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't forget, I chose not to :p. But yes, it was definitely sarcasm. The sad thing is, I've seen some feminists spout that bullshit.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of a girl in middle and freshmen high who claimed I "eye raped" her, though she would do the exact same stuff to guys. She was legitimately insane though, so I feel a wee bit of sympathy for her erratic behavior, but still she didn't have to be a jerk.

[–]mixing_saws 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Wait until feminist will make laws so this girl could throw you into prison for "eye rape". I wonder how worse it will get until the nonfeminists will take action to stop this insanity.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

And why is it so much about men should do this, do that to women, don't hit them or assault them, with very little about women should treat men like this or that.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Gynocentrism. Males are born to be utilities nothing more. Just look at the animal kingdom in how most males are treated, hell even in the insect world. Humans evolved from that world, we arent that much different except for our interlect .

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Funny then how God made males, Adam as the specific image bearers. Females too but they're also in the image of human.

Dunno if you're religious at all but it's interesting how humans are one of the few kinds of animal where males have as much authority and power, well depending on the culture.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude even in trad times most peasant women had it leagues better than most peasant men. Men did all the risky and dangerous work. But as long as they could get a loyal wife they had no problem with sacrifing themselves. Now that feminism took away the almost guarantee of a loyal wife, more and more men wake up. Btw. Im not religious im a very scientific and rational thinking person, thats also why i tend to clash with feminists.

[–]Educational_Bet_6606 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As an aside you can be scientific and religious.

That's annoying on that males get taken for granted.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As an aside you can be scientific and religious.

It highly depends on the religious beliefs a person holds. I dont believe in god/s because there is no scientific proof for its existence. Can i still believe in some type of afterlife? Yes but since i cannot prove it with hard evidence its mere speculation. Maybe we are just reborn in another universe? Or maybe just stop to exist. I believe it will be like the time before we where born, a time of unconsciousness and emptyness. But honestly we just dont know. Which of the endless numbers of big religions/spiritual beliefs is right in the end? Thats where the argument of pascals bet falls apart.

And blindly belivieng in stuff most of the times only gives us misery. Just look at the woke and modern feminists.

[–]AdventurousOwl6137 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or have men jailed for disgustedly LOOKING AWAY from any woman, and regarding it is "Criminal mind-misogyny, like draft-dodging or resisting arrest? " That's why I made an appointment with a well-experienced attorney DEALING with matters like these. And it's a SHE--technically feminist but equally a men's/fathers activist too! God/the Gods/the Goddesses bless her!

[–]AbysmalDescent 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's predatory when you live in a delusional reality and just assume that every man looking at a woman is out to rape her. As if that was just the default for men, and not something that is completely contradictory to both their nature and socialization.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats what feminism claims though.

[–]Alarming_Draw 63 points64 points65 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile, Spain just announced new laws that mean unless a man specifically, and clearly hears a woman say a loud "yes" to a direct question about permission for sex-it will now be called a RAPE. No matter what.

Meanwhile, in Britain, even if a man is screaming "no, stop, please dont" as a woman grabs his cock and puts it in her mouth or vagina, THATS still not rape by law.

So in one place looking at women will get you thrown out. In another, not getting clear consent and somehow getting proof of that consent, is called rape. In another, women raping men isnt called rape.

How is this equality? How can ANY feminist defend ANY of this anymore?

Its a sexist, man hating, female priveleged world, where us males are barely tolerated, shat on, insulted, second class citizens.

[–]Certain-Tangerine-30 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You know the women could just go and say that the man coerced or forced her into giving consent. And then bam… Straight to Jail. Forget innocent until proven guilty. If you happen to have been born with a pair of testicles then you get guilty until proven innocent (and even then the women could just make another accusation and be believed). Like what do people expect out of us? To where bodycams that are turned on 24/7 no matter what?

[–]Alarming_Draw 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To where bodycams that are turned on 24/7 no matter what?

Yep-and then we would get called creeps for that probably!

Men are born into suffering and hard lives. Women are born into luxury by comparison in most cases.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And women still believe they are the oppressed ones. LMAO!

I always burst out laughing when i hear someone say that.

[–]AdventurousOwl6137 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Boycott vacationing in BOTH these countries--the governments in these countries who'll do ANYTHING to get the women's vote, even by corrupt women who want to legally escape prosecution by having lawmakers give them immunity for committing acts on men that SHOULD be rape, domestic violence, etc. , are just as bad as governments in some Middle Eastern countries that oppress women. Governments in democratic countries are so afraid of offending the type of powerful women's lobbyist groups because the politicians will bend over backwards to get re-elected, no matter what the proposed laws that lobbyists want are. It's like the big corporations that have politicians in the U.S. by the neck. It's about time politicians, whether here in the U.S. or abroad, stop working with these special interest groups who have no regard or respect for the rights of others, and start working with the average citizens instead. This has been overdue for decades, and I'm sick and tired of it. It's as if politicians and lobbyists are yelling wordlessly "common sense distorts misandry, political correctness, religion, not the other way around!" which is their silent war cry among themselves not to be allowed to be suspected by the voting public; it's like a political code of silence which the mafia call the "oath of Omerta." It's about time we pressure lawmakers in the U.S. and other countries to STOP this legislative overkill and STOP going overboard with extremist sensitivity like tolerating misandry, black-on-white racism, and above all, put a STOP to censoring "politically incorrect" subjects like men's legitimate problems with certain women (husband-beaters, gold diggers, high-maintenance), gender-based attacks on men (physical, sexual, false complaints) , black-on-white racism, or anything that deserves human attention no matter HOW unpopular, HOW politically-incorrect, or HOW uncomfortable these matters make some people feel. This is NO REFLECTION on innocent, sensible women who respect men and see them as people and not all oppressors of women (and without putting up with sexual harassment and other indignities that only bad men do to them) but with so many women abusing men and exploiting gender-based laws thatn give bad women practically a license to hurt or kill men, men should UNITE by the numbers and bring along sensible, loving women with them as supporters, and UN-elect politicians who give preferential treatments to certain groups just to get their votes. Thank you and good luck.

[–]Soda_BoBomb 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, the sexiest of moments is when you stop and ask directly if they consent.

[–]equalRights111 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hi, I would point out that this not completely accurate, the new law specifies that affirmative actions need to take place, not necessarily a verbal yes. That’s important for several reasons.

[–]RabbitFromBrazil 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every year 0.25 people die from that. Very dangerous.

[–]mindset_grindset 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

looking at someone ? believe it or not - straight to jail

“If you are, for example, staring at someone from afar – if the attention you are giving someone is unwanted, that is considered harassment," the club said.

“If you’re being harassed by another person or receiving unwanted attention, please seek them out or tell our staff immediately.

"We adopt a policy of ‘always believe the report’ in cases of harassment and feeling unsafe.

"If we receive reports of any behaviour that has made someone feel uncomfortable, the reported individual will be removed from the venue and the police will be called."

[–]Bossbong 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So I can say everyone in the bar is looking at me funny and get a bar to myself? Bet!

[–]mindset_grindset 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i mean the most natural thing to do would be to just say that all the """pink vest""" security are looking at you funny making you uncomfortable and then by their own rules they have to believe you as a victim and all kick each other out.

checkmate

tbh if this came to my city I'd take a gf out and have her do exactly that bc we both know they wouldn't listen to men saying it. but i wonder how quickly the white knight feminists would turn on their fellow employees when accusations started flying. lol.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy a club for yourself. That sounds great!

[–]mindset_grindset 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i mean the most natural thing to do would be to just say that all the """pink vest""" security are looking at you funny making you uncomfortable and then by their own rules they have to believe you as a victim and all kick each other out.

checkmate

tbh if this came to my city I'd take a gf out and have her do exactly that bc we both know they wouldn't listen to men saying it. but i wonder how quickly the white knight feminists would turn on their fellow employees when accusations started flying. lol.

[–]johnnygluebag 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

and the police will be called

So what are the police going to do? Do they consider 'staring' a crime also and worthy of arrest?

[–]mindset_grindset 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

unfortunately we'll have to wait and find out what happens

i live in the U.S that has a history of lynching black men who are accused of even whistling at white women and arresting any races of men for any unjust reason they want unless they're rich.

so if this comes here then it'll just be another tool of oppression

[–]johnnygluebag 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

i live in the U.S that has a history of lynching

Maybe you should focus on the word "history" in that sentence and realize those days are past. Welcome to the modern world where people don't get "lynched" anymore.

[–]mindset_grindset1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

this you? :

https://www.reddit.com/r/NEET/comments/fbxhe6/why_does_neetanime/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

why would i be educated by someone who's wilfully uneducated ?... and unemployed ? I'm getting the internet equivalent of being yelled at by the crazy homeless bum.

you have no idea what days are past or not, you're a self admitted ignoramus.

speaking of odd connections, it's unfortunate that many ignorant like you coincide with men's rights, but i suppose it takes all types.

[–]johnnygluebag 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow you have serious issues dude. Get help.

[–]mindset_grindset -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get employment bum

[–]SapperChimo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, that night club is going out of business soon.

[–]StupidDebate 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Just be blind then you can touch all the tits you want

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Didn't you hear, blind people can still stare, they have to especially watch where they're looking

[–]WeissReui 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman logic.

[–]spelczech 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.indy100.com/viral/blind-man-gym-staring-woman#:~:text=A%20blind%20man%20has%20shared,Gustin%20said%20of%20the%20ordeal.

Yep.

[–]fiercealmond 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit. Can you imagine having 10% of this social power

[–]Tinkoo17 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Selling Wimmins T-Shirts with Braille on them… line up folks!

[–]Kandidog1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Said Mr.Stevie Wonder.

[–]AbysmalDescent 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People can look at each other, it's just men who are not allowed to look at women. It doesn't look like they're being recognized as people anymore though.

[–]40moreyears 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You need written consent to use your eyes on people you dinosaur!

[–]amazinglyaloneracist 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only one type of person this is targeting and we all know they are men.

[–]draggin_balls 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is very likely in response to men of middle eastern descent not understanding western culture and behaving inappropriately in these venues, but they will never admit that

[–]ib_redbeard 321 points322 points323 points 3 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Somehow I think this so called policy will be targeted against men. Women will be able to stare, talk, probably grope, to their hearts content. But men will be kicked out for just wantchijg a girl who can actually dance...

[–][deleted] 164 points165 points166 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Well obviously how else can you confirm somebody is actually staring at you without actually staring back.

Meanwhile in next months news. Club 77 goes bankrupt because nobody goes.

| The venue suggested clubbers could be booted out if they simply glanced at another person and they took offence - and the cops could be called.

Right... so If i walk in with a giant dildo on my head and self identify as a dickhead... every is getting kicked out who comments on it?

[–]ib_redbeard 57 points58 points59 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would like to see an update of this club in a year or so....I wonder if it or this stupid policy, still exists

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably not. I mean like first time a bunch of lads get thrown out. They each tell their mate and then one of two thing shappens. They all stop going. Or it becomes compeditive or right of passage to get banned first!

Queue awkwardstaringmeme.jpg

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/a1/a1a945924a8ee96b0e9d40993df286c0.jpeg

[–]az226 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s like that cafe where men had to pay double for their coffee. Go woke get broke

[–]Aussie-Vader 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which I always found super hypocritical. Cause when big businesses did audits to find the women they were underpaying, it turned out companies like google were actually already paying women more then men /hr & had to back pay men the difference.

Only for groups of women to complain that all the men received bonuses…

[–]CoolGuySauron 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile in next months news. Club 77 goes bankrupt because nobody goes.

Came to say this. The one who had the idea didn't though this through.

​

Meanwhile, here in Brasil is banned charging different princes for women for entry haha Usually they paid half the entrance, now it's full price. Cue women who actually goes to nightclubs and the ugly feminists that brough up this idea.

[–]WingsofSky 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see you're abusing the system already!

[–]TavieBaby 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahha

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points59 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Somehow I think this so called policy will be targeted against unattractive men. Women will be able to stare, talk, probably grope, to their hearts content. But unattractive men will be kicked out for just wantchijg a girl who can actually dance...

FTFY

[–]geocitiesuser 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You missed an "un"

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤝

[–]mindset_grindset 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"We adopt a policy of ‘always believe the report’ in cases of harassment and feeling unsafe"

i would pay to see a social experiment where men go to that club and complain to the """"pink vests""" (their actual uniform) at any woman who looks at them and see if they actually stick to "believe everyone" or just "believe women"

the vests are literally pink - what's that tell you ? or is it taboo now to say that's typically a woman's color ?

[–]denisc9918 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know what colour their vests are.

I don't want to get kicked out.

[–]mindset_grindset 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the article says the manager forces these white knight chumps to wear pink vests

[–]NwbieGD 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If it's was anywhere close by, I would have put on some very flashy clothes and then gone in, and go say people are staring at me. Also I would have someone record me secretly and security, see if they actually give equal treatment.

Lastly I do not think people understand that some people take off their glasses or forget their contacts when they go out. This results in them often staring because everything gets blurrier after 2m and then you can stare because you don't see to well, you might not even realize that you're looking at someone.

[–]WingsofSky 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember I was in the lunch room by myself. Staring into space just thinking. Female sat down and got upset I was staring in that direction.

[+]equalRights111 -15 points-14 points-13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course, probably because women are more likely to complain about it!

[–]searching_myself 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Coyote Ugly (based in USA) would be gone

[–]the-lone-squid 273 points274 points275 points 3 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

Ahh kicking out the ones who pay for all the drinks.

Great business model.

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 77 points78 points79 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A very clever thought. Too bad the club owners didn't consider this fact.

[–]smug_beatz 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I anyways avoid clubs!

[–]NeoVidia 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What club owner? Heard he went bankrupt for kicking out all his customers.

[–]Successful-Ad-9264 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Club 77 in Darlinghurst, Sydney
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/restaurants-bars/sydney-nightclub-bans-staring-without-getting-prior-verbal-consent/news-story/c2bad0f95453e651bf2bf67941231d93

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points81 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Let it all burn to the ground. Dammed if we care. Not worth even engaging anymore, don’t look, don’t help, don’t interact. It’s not worth it. Not all women, but enough.

[–]Harpua81 50 points51 points52 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Why didn't you help that poor woman escape the burning building?"

I didn't want her to feel uncomfortable or harassed. Besides, we're equals, she doesn't need my help.

[–]Kandidog1 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Diamond…..the most sense I’ve read on these string of comments all year!

[–]mindset_grindset 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we all know feminists just want these rules there so they have the power to enforce them on anyone they dislike but break them for anyone they like. which is fine when it's just rejecting or accepting someone. it's only problematic when they're going to get a white knight to get physical or police to get legal just for talking to them. but they love those raised stakes bc it makes them feel powerful and above men.

that's why it's always going to be enabled by rich capitalist men at the very top pretending to be white knights who are for things like this bc it reinforces their dominance hierarchy and gives them permission to publicly shame to make examples of their competition when an opportunity comes up to spin a situation to make something innocent appear malevolent, bc it makes them more powerful as well. so it's a win win for women and rich men.

bc obviously this bar owner who's implementing this system is immune from being kicked out of his own club no matter how many women he approaches or what actual sexual harassment he does.

rules for thee but not for me is the history of our species, its important to remember that freedom and democracy are the exception not the rule. in every system except democracy, dumb rules exactly like this were used to keep the average guy down with stupid rules like royalty, caste systems and bullshit religious customs. and now the feminist agenda is trying to bring those same dumb types of customs to a free democratic state.

it's no exaggeration to say bringing violence and the police state into nightclubs is an attack on men's freedom. creepy men who get handsy or aggressive and sexually harass women are already kicked out of clubs or pulled away by men like you and me bc 99% of men AREN'T criminals. only 1% is. so an unnecessary extra - "don't even look or talk to them" without asking rule on 100% of men that they're trying to enforce , is only made so they can abuse it on people they dislike.

there was a time that free people knew that excessive laws were made for this reason and therefore fought for as few laws as possible.

[–]Mcnst 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally my first thought! 🤣

[–]pw1541 points 3 years ago* [recovered] (17 children) | Copy Link

This won't affect the club at all. Horny guys are a dime a dozen, kick two out and four new ones will show up. source - used to bounce at nightclubs

[–]the-lone-squid 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

https://newtheory.com/bid-farewell-why-millennials-are-abandoning-the-nightclub-nightlife/

[–]AtheistConservative 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Many define millennials as '81-'96, so about 4 years out of college at the youngest with a midpoint of being born in '88. That's 34. Of course millennials are going to the club less. It's like reporting that Gen X is more likely to go to a CPA's now.

[–]the-lone-squid 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok let's look at the overall data then

https://comparemyinsurances.com/clubbing-industry-how-have-things-moved-on-since-the-90s/

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even the younger generations. Where I live it's jarring how before Covid clubs would have lines to get in, and now the few that are left are constantly at half capacity.

Except the gay one. They're still jammed to the top...even with Monkeypox.

[–]pw1541 points 3 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

I live in a popular college/university town, can assure you that when the students come back every fall the line ups for bars and night clubs on fri/sat nights are just as long as they were.

[–]the-lone-squid 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Your personal experience doesn't equal overall statistics.

[–]pw1541 points 3 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I am not sure of the validity of "New Theory Magazine" as they fail cite any credible sources at all but I think you underestimate how many horny young males there are out there. As long as women keep going out there will be an abundance of horny males will be out there to hit on them.

[–]the-lone-squid 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean, this is nothing new dude. I know in my city we went from 3 clubs down to two over the past 15 years. Even the local bars have died down compared to decades ago..

[–]OwnerAndMaster 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol I was noting how even prior to COVID the younger generation was not about nightlife

Probably because they didn't grow up influenced by either 90s Hip-Hop (where the club was the coolest setting of all the tales being told), or Jersey Shore / Real World for the white college students back then

Gen Z is very much "I'm depressed, here are my pronouns, let's play online, do you have prescription drugs or street drugs?" and it's pretty depressing

[–]LeftcelInflitrator -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Why would horny guys go to a club where they cannot score.

[–]denisc9918 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Deluded, desperate, drunk, dumb..

That's just the 'D' s.. LOL

[–]LeftcelInflitrator 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's all the more reason to go to a club you can actually flirt at.

[–]pw1541 points 3 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Because they're usually optimistic fuckers

[–]LeftcelInflitrator 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Still doesn't explain why they wouldn't go to a club they could actually get laid at.

[–]mixing_saws 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I go to clubs and festivals just to dance and enjoy the music. Having a good time with the bros and meeting new people. Women are just an annoyance there.

[–]Limp-Dee 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

club goes bankrupt

[–]jacksleepshere -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There will never be too few men. Most clubs are so overflowing with men that they have to come up with any excuse to refuse entry.

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yikes sweaty, thats misogynistic, women do pay for their drinks as well!!!!!!!!!

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/s

[–]PlatypusPristine9194 117 points118 points119 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

"Excuse me, mademoiselle, but may I have your permission to stare at you?"

[–]denisc9918 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Mate, these are Aussie sheilas!

'Fuck off frog' would be my guess at answer.. lol

[–]dw87190 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Aussie here. My five years of working in hospitality can confirm that women are worse for staring and perpetrating sexual harassment. It's just that no one does anything about those women and multiple employers have threatened termination for treating male and female perpetrators equally. One manager even told me to my face that "it only matters when a man does it"

For those asking: yes, yes she is

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

they usually get away with it because if they kick the women out the club will be a full on sausage fest

[–]dw87190 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men might have safe place to drink and we wouldn't want that s/

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And the response will be: eewww, you're making me uncomfortable, somebody CALL THE POLICE.

They didn't just ban "staring", it's in the article, they call the cops on you for everything that "has made someone feel uncomfortable"

[–]Limp-Dee 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl: “buy me a drink “ Guy:”no thanks “ Girl:” buy me a drink or I’ll tell the cops you stared at me without consent “

[–]mindset_grindset 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

WHOA BUDDY - did you ASK the ladies permission to speak to her first, in order to ask her permission to look at her ? CALL THE POLICE, SEND THIS RAPIST TO JAIL.

"The club said it was happy people to "interact with strangers” but "any engagement MUST begin with verbal consent"

so first you need to say : "pardon me ma'am, may i have your verbal consent to speak with you without getting beat up and kicked out ?"

THEN maybe you can ask: "grand, now that we're consensually speaking, may i have your permission to glance your general direction without getting beat up and kicked out?"

make sure when you approach your eyes aren't looking at them or you'll get beat up and kicked out

but make sure you don't accidentally bump them since you're not looking at them when you approach or else you'll also get beat up and kicked out

also - if she says no, and you accept the rejection, collect yourself and try to mingle with anyone else - you'll get beaten up and kicked out, because :

"It added: "If you do come in and are approaching MULTIPLE PEOPLE ...you are going to attract the attention of our security, who have been instructed to stop this kind of behaviour."

so you can only get one rejection per night.

once you've been told "no thank you" - you're now black marked and must spend the rest of the night wallowing in shame bc if you're not one strangers cup of tea for any reason whatsoever, then you're obviously an incel loser outcast that should be shunned.

[–]EvidencePlz 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Funny but true and sad

[–]mindset_grindset 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

we all know feminists just want these rules there so they have the power to enforce them on anyone they dislike but break them for anyone they like. which is fine when it's just rejecting or accepting someone. it's only problematic when they're going to get physical or legal just for talking to them. but they love those raised stakes bc it makes them feel powerful and above men.

that's why it's always going to be enabled by rich capitalist men at the very top pretending to be white knights who are for things like this bc it reinforces their dominance hierarchy and gives them permission to publicly shame and quell their competition making them more powerful as well.

bc obviously this bar owner who's implementing this system is immune from being kicked out of his own club no matter how many women he approaches or what actual sexual harassment he does.

rules for thee but not for me is the history of our species, its important to remember that freedom and democracy are the exception not the rule. everywhere else dumb rules exactly like this were used to keep the average guy down with stupid rules like royalty, caste systems and bullshit religious customs.

it's no exaggeration to say bringing violence and the police state into nightclubs is an attack on freedom. creepy men who get handsy or aggressive and sexually harass women are already kicked out of clubs. an unnecessary extra - "don't even look or talk to them" without asking rule that they're trying to enforce its only made so they can abuse it on people they dislike.

[–]Eastwood96 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was my first thought, EXACTLY, when reading the title--seriously, WTAF??!!

[–]rollypollyolie 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck this killed me omfg lolololl

[–]oliver19232 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

holds hand over eyes

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 98 points99 points100 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I hope this club goes out of business.

[–]mindset_grindset 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i bet it will if they actually hold tight to what they've stated :

"The fresh policy states that "Club 77 is not a place to come to if your sole purpose is to 'pick up'".

when people want to go to a place to not be picked up and hangout with only their friends and family - they go to a fucking restaurant where you get your own table and it's considered taboo for strangers to approach YOUR table and try to pick you up.

restaurants are perfectly happy to serve your exclusive group of friends just drinks instead of food as long as you're paying their upcharges and everyone expects to be kicked out if they're disturbing guests with horniness bc it's not the place for it. that's what this "club" should switch to- a fucking restaurant.

but when people want to meet new strangers to pickup - they go to bars and clubs.

of course people are usually more subtle about it instead of being that obvious about it going up to each other saying - "hey , we're at a bar/club instead of a restaurant , so we obviously both want to fuck, let's go fuck."

sure, some people do the direct approach with the ol "do you wanna get out of here?" - and sometimes it works tbh

other times it doesn't work, so they're simply told no thank you.

and 99% of the time that's fine and everyone goes on with their lives bc we all accept that we're adults and we risk the slight discomfort of being propositioned if you go to a place designed for propositions... what do they think alcohol - the sole beverage of nightclubs - is for ?

it's for getting enough liquid courage to talk to strangers and ask each other out. how that's done is usually polices itself by what works individually- very good looking guys get success by doing pretty much anything. less good looking guys have to be a little more personable a little more creative and of course buying women alcohol helps them get success too.

but to single handedly attempt to police drunk people even TALKING to each other ? ya i don't see that ending well. why not just go to a Christian dance at that point? either their atmosphere is going to be so incredibly dry and boring that they'll make the already difficult low margin nightclub business even harder than it already is and go broke.

or it'll somehow work and people will come and try to play their stupid little feminist game to impress each other - for a whole 6 months while the fad is cool- and then move on to everywhere that's not so uptight.

so it'll hopefully fail sooner than later. bc if this shit catches on it's the end of nightclub culture . creepy guys already get kicked out of nightclubs, they don't need to kick out regular guys just for shooting their shots where they should be shooting their shots.

[–]Arguesovereverythin 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Doubt it. Clubs have been giving women free entry, free drinks, catered events, and preferential treatment for as long as I can remember. There are still men that willing let themselves get treated like shit just to be near women.

Best you can do is not be a part of it. Let the idiots go broke while you go elsewhere.

[–]Laytheblameonluck 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clubs do regularly go out of business though.

[–]Ren_Yi 51 points52 points53 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So, the old "eyes meeting across a crowded room" romance story will end with the bouncers jumping on the guy to drag him away and kick him out of the club.

[–]UnconventionalXY 49 points50 points51 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Only the unattractive man of course: attractive men won't be reported for staring.

It's basing criminal activity on the subjective feelings of an individual: that's a recipe for disaster in justice.

[–]Lance_lake 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Only the unattractive man of course: attractive men won't be reported for staring.

I've said this for years and every time, people argue the point. But it's perfectly valid.

The level of unattractiveness is directly equal to the level of creepy.

One can't stop being creepy to someone else (presuming they aren't doing something that is obviously socially unacceptable such as taking off their pants in public).

[–]UnconventionalXY 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is it socially unacceptable though? What have they got to expose that we haven't seen before and why is it so objectionable to look at? When you consider what people's mouths get up to, its surprising we don't cover those up because of offense at association.

This is about being subjectively offended (or attracted) but requiring everyone pay the price, which is exactly what is happening with women being able to criminalise simply being looked at.

[–]winatreddit 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but but people especially in Reddit says it is not because of your face but your personality, just be confident they say lmao

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

majority of people know this and are aware of it, they just dont want to admit it

[–]mindset_grindset 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

incorrect

if that happens - all that happens - AND the police get called :

“If you are, for example, staring at someone from afar – if the attention you are giving someone is unwanted, that is considered harassment," the club said.

“If you’re being harassed by another person or receiving unwanted attention, please seek them out or tell our staff immediately.

"We adopt a policy of ‘always believe the report’ in cases of harassment and feeling unsafe.

"If we receive reports of any behaviour that has made someone feel uncomfortable, the reported individual will be removed from the venue and the police will be called."

so basically - you're minding your own business walking up to get a drink, some girl happens to be in your eyeline, for any reason whatsoever she decides she's uncomfortable - maybe you didn't offer to buy her a drink and she's mad, maybe she doesn't like your race, maybe she just hates men- so she immediately waves the feminist white knight police over and no questions asked they jump you and kick you out AND call the police to send you to jail.

my guess is if this happens a lot then the police will just hangout nearby or outside like they do at hotspots in my town, so it'll be very litteraly straight to jail if you get kicked out. my guess is they'll hire off duty cops for security anyway to basically skip the middle man so these pink vest white knight feminists are essentially police , so if you try to argue or drunkenly throw an elbow as a natural reaction before you know what's going on then you'll have the police throw the book at you for disorderly/resisting arrest.

so essentially now at this club and others if it catches on- any woman regardless of income, mental health or believability- will have the direct and encouraged armed police state to enforce any "uncomfortable" feelings or false accusations they have out of spite or any reason whatsoever.

what could go wrong ?

[–]pdoherty972 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For a new twist, the guy should call the police on her for staring.

[–]OkraGarden 80 points81 points82 points 3 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link

If you dress up sexy and go to a nightclub, you should expect to be stared at.

[+]-Soggy-Potato- -82 points-81 points-80 points 3 years ago* (42 children) | Copy Link

I feel like it’s not necessarily a terrible desire for people to want a safe space to enjoy clubbing without being made to feel uncomfortable by others. Ppl are allowed to feel sexy or dress up for a night out, and it’s not an invitation for unwanted attention

It just depends how it’s enforced due to the nuance of the situation

[–]Mode1961 44 points45 points46 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes because if there is one thing these type of bans understand is "NUANCE"

[–]thatGUY2220 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You are correct. Ppl are allowed to feel sexy or dress up for a night out and it isn’t an invitation for unwanted attention.

However, women dressing sexy and dancing in a club will automatically and necessarily attract the attention of men.

This rule is for women to remove undesirable men from the club. Aka a hottie stares and she likes it. OP does the same exact thing and the cops are called.

This is unenforceable and possibly discriminatory.

[+]-Soggy-Potato- -19 points-18 points-17 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There’s a difference between attention and unwanted attention though, regardless of gender

If you’re staring and interacting with someone who does not want to interact with you, you should respect that and leave them alone, it can be unfair and may be based in biases surrounding how someone looks but equally, you aren’t entitled to reciprocated attention. It’s only an issue if despite pushback, the person does not stop which will most likely be the case of we’re actually being realisitc

And it’s not hidden knowledge that you do get creepy people in clubs, it’s a good thing to take measures against people who are ruining the experience for other people through unwanted interactions from ppl who can’t take a hint

The only issue is with how nuanced it is, and until something happens you can’t make a concrete statement about it because we just don’t know how it would play out

[–]fiercealmond 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true. You should leave someone alone who asks. What should not happen, is the entire industry adopting special employees specifically so that no woman ever has to feel even the slightest bit of discomfort, and with no questions asked, remove someone and call the police for the crime of LOOKING AT THEM in a fucking NIGHTCLUB.

You're a lunatic if you think this is how human beings should behave or be treated.

[–]Diesel-66 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s a difference between attention and unwanted attention though, regardless of gender

If you’re staring and interacting with someone who does not want to interact with you, you should respect that and leave them alone,

And how would anyone know that before looking?

[–]thatGUY2220 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s not against the law to look at someone in a public place

[–]fiercealmond 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet

[–]rollypollyolie 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yea your right the enforcement will only remove men and women will continue to grope men to their hearts desires....nothing will change except the new reason to kick men out.....

What happens when I want a safe space to go and dance snd not get my dick grabbed through my pants..... I get kicked out for giving a death glare at the chick who did it.....

[–]JZHoney-Badger 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m in my 50s (woman) and have been married almost 30 years, so maybe things have changed drastically, but I find it hard to believe that it’s common for women to be groping men in clubs. It’s really not safe for us to do so nor is it the case that men would commonly just…take it. The physical power balance is in the man’s favor.

I’m not saying that groping and other sexual assault doesn’t happen to men. It does. But you’re describing it as if it’s rampant and commonplace in clubs and I just don’t believe that.

But you’re saying that women are often grabbing your dick on the dance floor?

[–]rollypollyolie 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since covids been over yea actually women are incredibly aware of the power they hold in a club, and nowadays it litterslly doesn't matter if the dude is a monster, the girl can do what ever she wants free of consequences because the bouncers and every dude in the establishment sides with them immediately even when incredibly in the wrong.

I've been elbowed in the face and gotten kicked out because after I got elbowed I yelled fuckkkk and she immediately went he started it to the people around and ran, two guys grabbed me tried to ask what happened but by the time I'm explaining a bouncer grabs me from the two guys and just throws me out.

I've had my dick grabbed when I try to two step ( i have a girlfriend and have for years) but I like to two step and she has no problem with me dancing when a moment presents its self but damn its kinda crazy how dancing and a dip turns into a cock grab 🤔 imagine if a girl wants to dance is it immediately ok to grab her ass? Let alone anything else? No but the double standard exists, and yes girls know they can do it without repercussion or consequences.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

If you want to be sexy, you should expect people to find you sexy. What part of sexy do you think isn't related to sex? Hell, before all this woke bullshit started, sexologists were saying sex starts the moment you step outside, as in sexuality is a natural and deeply rooted part of every human and there's not a single moment in your life when it's not there. The wokes just redefined what used to be healthy human interaction as borderline rape if just 0.001% of something isn't ideal in the mind of a woman, even retroactively. (No such consideration for a man of course, not even when he doesn't want anything.) Note that it doesn't have to be real, objective harassment, it can be anything. Even the article says that this club applied that same policy, it doesn't matter what's happening, only what somebody feels. And by somebody, they mean a woman, that's always implied in these new age policies.

[–]-Soggy-Potato- -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can find someone sexy without staring so much they get uncomfortable

It’s the expectation that people will have basic levels of respect for the individual, take the hint etc

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you think have always been the standard policy in bars, officially or unofficially, when it came to somebody creeping on women? Unless you managed to find a place absent of security and often fueled by drugs, you were always subject to get thrown out, for anything, really. But if women complained, you did not have the option to stay inside or even argue, that has always been the case. It still is, unless a man is really rich or is with somebody really rich, he's really not in any position to act out of line. In fact there's plenty of places you probably also get a beating from security after being escorted out, even if you really did nothing just because they can, nobody will see anything and the police will do nothing because it's much easier for them to look away when a few testosterone junkies beat somebody up who didn't yet get the memo than having to respond to some bickering every ten minutes.

The only difference is that usually women didn't care what anybody was doing as long as they didn't intentionally interacted with them over and over. And why would they? However a policy this explicitly laying down that women can get men thrown out even if there is no evidence against them and there is no possibility that they won't be believed, and even the police gets involved, will only have one effect: it's going to encourage even women who never cared and still don't care to be "empowered" and ruin at least the night of somebody they think shouldn't be there for whatever reason. And if the insanity continues and we actually see laws pop up making "staring" and other thought crimes illegal, men will get their lives ruined even by just not looking good enough and standing "too close" to an "empowered" woman in a crowd of hundreds where dropping a needle would be impossible, like subways.

[–]NwbieGD 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Then please, please, please explain to me.

Why women/girls dress up like that when going out, but not when just home alone for the night.

If want to you feel sexy you can just as easily dress up that way when you're having a wine party, sleepover, whatever with just the girls. However guess what from all the girls I know, they don't dress up in the sake sexy clubbing clothes then. Nor does the majority of girls/women ...
If it's just to feel sexy you can put on music at home and dance alone or with 1 or 2 friends, then there's no reason to go to that club.

The point is you can not be selective in who is allowed to stare and who isn't, not only is that incredibly unreasonable and hypocrite, that's you wanting other people to be able to know what you want without you telling them, people can't read your mind.

However this is the crux of the problem. You can either get angry at everyone when they keep on flirting/staring/whatever after you say you aren't interested or at no one. However enough girls will first get pissed at a guy they don't find attractive and then do the exact same with a guy they do find attractive but play hard to get. That's just dumb and inconsistent and even hypocrite behaviour. You know this pushy behaviour from guys is often, not always, learned behaviour because it worked for them well in the past. Most guys in clubs just do what they had the most succes with ... Or often what they see others do that are successful. Either that behaviour is okay or it's not, shouldn't matter if it's done by person A or person B, assuming they are both strangers to you. However that's not what happens in practice and that's part of the problem ...

You want consent and no staring, then you need to be extremely consistent with that to everyone. However that's not going to happen in practice because most women and many many men, aren't consistent in that regard.

Last problem is that everyone wants different things, some women want to be approached a certain way and will get annoyed if someone asks for consent for everything and since people can't read minds, you can't know what approach someone wants ...

[–]UnconventionalXY 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sexual reproduction is not a solo activity: haven't people worked that one out yet?

[–]shdai 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not the ones who listen to women

[+]-Soggy-Potato- -13 points-12 points-11 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why women/girls dress up like that when going out, but not when just home alone for the night

Because men and women can like to look good for themselves, it can help you feel more confident, show off to friends, you’re dressing for the occasion. That’s ontop of the people who would also do it for attention

Dressing up at home isn’t an occasion, it’s not exciting, you aren’t really doing anything. If you’re going out clubbing, you want to look good, you want to dress up in clubbing attire, you want to dress to match the energy of the people and the music at the event you’re at. You can’t get that same energy or atmosphere in you’re basement with £5 wine and a handful of friends, it’s a different vibe

Not to mention how it doesn’t really matter, dressing up still isn’t an invitation for unwanted interactions. Dressing slutty isn’t ‘asking for it’, because people are individuals and have their own reasons. Making grimy assumptions is the incorrect way to approach strangers. You probe, you get a response, and whatever response you receive you respect, simple.

The point is you can not be selective in who is allowed to stare and who isn't, not only is that incredibly unreasonable and hypocrite, that's you wanting other people to be able to know what you want without you telling them, people can't read your mind.

Why not? Personal preference or their individual choices absolutely should be respected. An invitation for one person isn’t an invitation for everyone, that’s common sense. If you ask someone not to stare or make it’s obvious you aren’t interested and they carry on, it’s unwanted, it’s making them uncomfortable, it not unreasonable for them to be told to stop

You know this pushy behaviour from guys is often, not always, learned behaviour because it worked for them well in the past.

Doesn’t make it at all appropriate, and it’s not restricted to men, woman can be pushy too

Either that behaviour is okay or it's not

Not really, it’s not black and white. You can want to interact with person A and not interact with person B, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

Last problem is that everyone wants different things, some women want to be approached a certain way and will get annoyed if someone asks for consent for everything and since people can't read minds, you can't know what approach someone wants ...

And that just boils down to respect

If you’re staring at someone for a prolonged period of time with no response, maybe you should take the hint?

If you’re staring at someone and that attention is being reciprocated, equally you should take the hint and take it further. It’s just being respectful and having basic communication skills, understanding the ‘yes’ and ‘no’s’

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s just being respectful and having basic communication skills, understanding the ‘yes’ and ‘no’s’

You're right about this part. But the yes and nos aren't in English. These communication skills aren't at all 'basic' for some, especially men. It's a skill that needs to be developed and can only be developed through interaction, not being told do this, don't do that etc intellectually.

I think it would be good for all men to learn and develop these skills but there is no manual for what these yes and nos are. What is lacking is strong male role models and father's demonstrating how to be a man and how to understand and treat women, a lot of which is obviously thanks to feminism. But because of this, a lot of men don't know how to be men and aren't even allowed to be men except only when given permission from a woman. 'Explicit' permission that comes in indirect so called communication, just basically hints.

Dating and engaging women for men is becoming more and more like being a tomb raider. You have to decipher heiroglyphics you haven't been taught or shown how to read and any wrong turn is booby trapped.

This is how it feels, basically. Yet women in traditional mens roles get to complain and have the world bend to them. That men aren't allowed exclusive spaces, that any women no matter how unwelcome they are have every right to not only exist in any space men can be, but demand that it must cater to them and overlook their deficiencies. E.g. women 'not being heard' or promoted in certain areas needs quotas to address any perceived imbalance against women. Why is it never asked that women just work on their competativeness and assertiveness.

In the dating and social world where men are typically disadvantaged, it's not hey, we have to be inclusive of everyone and their relative skill socially, like it is now with skills in the man's world. It's no, you're not reading the hints correctly and you have 'upset' a woman, get the fuck out you creep.

I think you are wrong about the feeling sexy part. It's not the vibe that makes you feel sexy, it's being desired. What you are wearing inspires desire in men and that in turn makes you feel sexy. If the same scenario of you and your friends hanging out happened, except a guy you were attracted to was coming, I imagine you would also want to look sexy, but sleepover sexy or whatever. The difference is the man to be masculine to make your time worth while being feminine, getting dressed up and looking good. Not the vibe.

So you having done your part in being feminine and dressing up to go out to the club a guy then has to be masculine and make the move. If you don't like the guy and his 'masculine' in the way he approached you, you can have him removed.

Imagine if there was a club where men could be 'offended' by a woman's appearance and have her removed, it would be extremely dehumanising and disgusting.

But thats happening now apparently to men and it reflects I think a deeper truth. That a lot of women don't see men as human. I think the constant dehumanisation by women drives up the 'creepiness' of the guy. If a lot of women talked to men like humans and not rapists and murderers in waiting, a lot of men would be able to get over whatever it is that makes them appear 'creepy'

I think the position you are arguing from has some truth to it. But it's also shit from the other side is what I'm trying to portray.

[–]pdoherty972 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

If you don’t want ‘unwanted attention’ you should probably stay in your own house; trying to police what other people look at while in public is ridiculous.

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like the victim-blaming mindset

[–]pdoherty972 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

So you think it’s reasonable for women to dress up provocatively, go to night clubs and then dictate who can look at them and for how long?

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I think people are entitled to a little respect. If you’re making someone uncomfortable you should ideally stop, and the person you’re making uncomfortable is entitled to wanting you to stop, no matter how they’re dressed

[–]denisc9918 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you’re making someone uncomfortable you should ideally stop

You're comments are making me uncomfortable right now, please stop.

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You can exit the situation here no problem

If you’re in a club it’s obviously not as easy

[–]denisc9918 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why is the 'ease' of leaving relevant?

You're arguing that if she 'feels' uncomfortable he should stop.

but if you're making me 'feel' uncomfortable shouldn't you also have to stop?

How do you determine who's feeling are more important? and in what situation?

Tell me how MY feelings are of any importance to anyone outside of a very small group of my personal family/friends.

Feelings are subjective and the idea of making any rule/law based on 'feelings' is idiotic at best.

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because the two situations are different

One is online, you’re not actually uncomfortable you’re making a point, and if you block me the problem is gone

In real life, you can’t block someone, they’ll keep staring

Staring at someone is an action, being stared at isn’t, you prioritise the targeted individual in this situation. And it’s not like you’re gaining much from staring at someone to a point where it should overstep someone’s comfort

[–]pdoherty972 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The issue is that they’re trying to dictate behavior of other people based on they feel. That isn’t how being in public works. Being in public carries with it inherent risks that don’t go away just because you don’t like them.

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do agree, but a club is a private establishment

[–]pdoherty972 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every business is a "private establishment". That doesn't mean they can ignore rules/laws related to operating in the public, or create new ones in violation of the same.

[–]MBV-09-C 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a very counter-productive desire, if I want a safe space to be social, I'd dress comfortably and hit up a place that doesn't literally survive off of hook-up culture. You can't dress 'sexy' and say it's not an invitation for unwanted attention, the literal definition of 'sexy' is 'sexually appealing or exciting', with synonyms literally being inviting, alluring, provocative, tempting, etc. If you're dressing sexy and you don't want the attention it's inevitably going to bring insofar as people staring at you, you literally can only blame the person that dressed you: you

Now, if you're actually getting harassed, completely different story, but dressing in an attention-grabbing way will potentially grab all kinds of attention, not just the kind you wanted, that's common sense.

[–]ZekalMacabre 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't "nuance", it's zero tolerance.

Zero tolerance doesn't work because there is no nuance to it.

This club is going out of business, and soon.

[–]GlitzerEinhornPony1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Ppl are allowed to feel sexy or dress up for a night out, and it’s not an invitation for unwanted attention

Imagine who privileged you have to be to actually think you are entitled to dictate where people are allowed to look based on your personal feelings...

"THAT PEASANT LOOKED AT ME, PUNISH HIM!"

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s about respect

[–]SappySoulTaker 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Dress up, go to a restaurant with your friends. Problem solved

[–]denisc9918 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

What!

  • Sit at a table hiding most of her body!
  • No swinging it all over the place on a dance floor!
  • No getting to scathingly dismiss a non-chad for daring to approaching her average-at-best ass!

Dude, please, be serious.

[–]SappySoulTaker 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are right I'm sorry.

[–]denisc9918 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and so you should be. Bloody young fellas..

scuse me a second mate I have to go outside and yell at some clouds.. LOL

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Clubbing is a different environment to a restaurant

[–]SappySoulTaker 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, an environment of meeting strangers

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dressing sexy and going to a nightclub or wherever is perfectly ok, but there is nothing wrong with someone having a look over at someone whos attractive. Theres a difference between a glance over and proper staring. if people are actively going out of their way to go over to these women and start acting inappropriate or saying inappropriate things, well yes that is where it needs to be addressed

[–]-Soggy-Potato- 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that’s what this ban is all about no? stopping inappropriate behaviour

[–]denisc9918 64 points65 points66 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is hilarious.

It'll take about 3 evictions for staring before the guys wake up and stop going.

I wonder how long the women will 'we just go to dance' with no guys there?

Ahhh Australia, land of nowhere near extinct drongo... LOL

[–]thealphateam 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

"It’s the fault of men for not supporting women’s rights and safe spaces."

EDIT: yes of course /s

[–]denisc9918 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not supporting women’s rights and safe spaces

Ahhh, of course, that's the one. I knew it was our fault I just couldn't see which 'why'.

Thanks.. lol

[–]geocitiesuser 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/s ?

[–]fiercealmond 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The levels of autism are too high when you need to add a stupid html joke to avoid downvotes.

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the place will also go out of business because no one will be buying any drinks lol.

[–]GltyUntlPrvnInncnt 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know who you couldn't stare or make eye contact with in the olden times?
Royalty and anyone superior to you.
And yet they think they're oppressed...

[–]mindset_grindset 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's exactly what feminists would like. absolute military power on par with royalty for only women.

they all want to feel like celebrities with a team of private armed security who only let near people they like and rough up anyone they dislike who even dares to look at them instead of averting their gaze to the ground when they pass by like peasants - you're right, they're so oppressed /s.

the funny part is, i bet most of the women who would want this the most aren't the type who need to worry about being hit on at all. they're probably the exact type who would exaggerate or straight up make false accusations on anyone they dislike for any offense or political differences that have nothing to do with sexual harassment.

[–]aries0413 49 points50 points51 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Any man that goes to this club is an idiot. Oh I am shure if your Chad you will be fine, but dont be a normie.

[–]RunawayGrain 44 points45 points46 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Any man that goes to this club is an idiot.

I did a stint as a bouncer in a club during college, and let me tell you that any man that goes to a club is an idiot. They are pretty much money extraction pumps for thirsty guys. We had quotas of who got let in, and pretty much hot girls could walk right past the line. The logic here was that lots of guys would come to where the hot girls are at, and spend a fortune on drinks to try to get in their pants. The girls were aware of this and a lot would just plan on free drinks. Furthermore, some establishments would have paid girls there in the crowd with the express purpose of getting guys to buy them drinks.

So repeatedly Id see a PUA type 'work' a girl all night. She'd literally just walk away from the dude when the local football star showed up, and he'd seal the deal with a nod and grunt then leave with her. All in under half an hour... without buying single drink. Which was absolutely the worst scenario for the club, TBH.

As an aside a girl I was with in college had two roommates who were identical twins. They would openly brag about going out to the club and getting free drinks from guys. If he tried to get their number, they'd give him the number to the local pizza joint. They thought this was hilarious.

Bottle service was a massive scam. Most of the time the venues just kept refilling the expensive import vodka bottles with cheap stuff from the local supermarket. The 'VIP' room is pretty much the same concept, but for suckers who are known to have loads of money. Especially the ones that get boozed and cause damage, which they will charge the customer for at an up-charge.

Even the parking was a scam. One of the venues I worked had VIP parking for $25 bucks. Pay your fee and the guy across the street would undo the little chain across the drive and you got a convenient parking space in a nice grass lot. Thing is they didn't own the lot, and the church that did sent them a cease and desist once they figured it out.

Working the front doors, you'd better believe we had quota's. 10% minorities, 50% women, 40% white guys. Because for a thirsty dude you want it to appear that there's lots of hot available girls for him to buy drinks for, and if one doesn't pan out there's more you try your luck with. It's akin to slot machines, and I'd say the psychology is pretty much the same.

[–]NwbieGD 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ahhhhh American culture 🤣😂 In my country buying a drink isn't as common and I never buy drinks for American girls, they feel flakey and fake/disingenuous, after hearing this it mostly confirms what I thought. A friend of mine did and I felt they were just trying to get free drinks ... (I guess I was probably right)

Normally you try to chat up a conversation and either you get rejected or you don't. You can buy a drink if they are still talking or dancing with you after 2-5 minutes or so (assuming you did not offer a drink yet). At least then it's more likely they have genuine interest. Still most times I didn't buy a drink or just 1. Generally someone who has genuine interest doesn't need you to buy a drink.

[–]RunawayGrain 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my country buying a drink isn't as common and I never buy drinks for
American girls, they feel flakey and fake/disingenuous, after hearing
this it mostly confirms what I thought.

I think a lot of it is that, thanks to the media here, a lot of these guys in their early twenties are larping James Bond as it were instead of building themselves up.

[–]mixing_saws 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im in germany if i buy a woman a drink im considered a chauvinistic pig. But im mgtow so i dont spend much time on thinking about these things anymore. Dating is a scam to extract money from males, without giving anything back in return. So why date? If i pay a hooker i atleast know what im getting. And i dont need to "work" her. Which costs lots of time you could spend working to earn money. So even a premium hooker is cheaper than dating. Well unless you are a top 10% man ofcourse.

[–]UnconventionalXY 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, taking commercial advantage of biology whilst society doesn't even recognise it as biology.

"The guys are just going there to get to know women"

Yeah, right.

[–]RunawayGrain 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My favorite was "I go there because I like the music." We had reasons for wearing ear plugs with the local DJ's and it wasn't entirely because they had the sound system turned up so loud ...

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most dudes these days have figured it out ( well i hope so, except for the extreme simps) that its no longer worth it and never really has been to go out of their way and buy some random chick drinks in hopes for sexual favour.

But honestly, now that i think about it, who and what type are these sort of dudes who are buying these girls drinks?

Most of the guys i know who frequented clubs either never bought a chick a drink or at a very very rare occasion..

Ive never understood why people pay for VIP service at a club? Like why? what benefits are there? Here in australia "VIP service" is usually a group of 10 or so people tucked away into some lackluster unappealing "booth" only like 5 or 10 metres away from everyone else, and most clubs might offer cheaper drinks, but that term doesnt really exist in australia when you are paying at least 10 dollars AUD for a basic spirit and mixer...

​

If i was going to pay for VIP somewhere and it was in a club sense id do it at a strip club or something, at least i might get my moneys worth ( or some of it, we all know strip clubs like to take dudes for a ride, pun intended)

[–]RunawayGrain 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was doing the bouncer thing in the early nineties, so stuff like social media hadn't even been thought of. So there was at least the patina of people wanting to get together to have a good time. My guess is that Tinder and it's ilk have broken the spell, as it were.

Well, back in school there was the short guy that was always 'talking' to some girl. He 'talked' to lots of girls as opposed to the sports guy who was actually plowing lots of girls. This is the guy that doubled down and mutated into the PUA guys that were buying girls drinks. My guess is that half the idea was to get her drunk enough to go home with him...

VIP service is a scam. At best you have someone of the opinion that they are a big shot and don't want to be bothered by the public. We had an local MLB player guy that frequented one of the establishments I worked. He had a bit of an overblown opinion of himself, hence the VIP room. Frankly, he was a jerk too. He'd get wasted and have a bunch of barfly girls on him like leeches on an old mule. Then he'd do some minor damage. He usually had a huge tab due to the hangers on and the club exaggerating how much the repair bills were, which was the point.

The other side of the VIP room scam were the PUA guys that the place was the VIP room was the Temple of Doom for scoring a girl.

[+]Mother-Key582 -8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are extremely desperate horny simp losers that have never heard of just beating it off in the shower. Nope, gotta have actual pussy.

I’m gay and I think I’m way WAY more of a man than they are.

[–]timmah1991 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Goddamn men and their shuffles deck natural instinct to reproduce

[–]denisc9918 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This club is right in the middle of the Sydney CBD.

Imagine the call to the cops...

  • Officer, quick quick there's a guy staring!
  • yes staring!
  • of course she has a short dress, this is a club.
  • yes yes her boobs are almost falling out..
  • what? no! He's staring!!
  • shit there's another one, hurry up
  • I don't care about the murder or the riot, these animals are staring!!
  • shit there's another one, that's 3
  • hurry up, someone's going to talk to her soon..

LOL... I gotta fkn immigrate somewhere.... SMH

[–]Typhooni 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To where? US and Europe have also fallen when it comes to basically everything.

[–]denisc9918 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

US and Europe have also fallen

Yeah, I know, any bloody first world country really.

I'm thinking Amazon jungle, Zimbabwe, Congo places like that.

Y'know safer more pleasant places for a man than fkn Australia has become. LOL

[–]Laytheblameonluck 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This club could find itself tied up in red tape.

These "pink officers" would need to be security guard licensing and any calls to the police can go against their liquor license. Most security guard companies are slack in following the laws.

Enough complaints and their license will be revoked.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

but "any engagement MUST begin with verbal consent"

How do you ask for consent if you're not allowed to approach anyone ?

[–]AgincourtSalute 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

First stagger in with your eyes closed. Then, in a loud voice, ask if any person in the room is willing to consent to you looking at them. Listen carefully for an affirmative response and try to catch which direction it came from. Turn in that direction and carefully open your eyes. Whilst looking at either the floor or the ceiling ask for the person who responded to clearly identify themselves. Now make eye contact. If their eyes are open you may now report them for looking at you without your consent and have them thrown out. Now meet them outside and have a normal conversation like grown ups.

[–]mindset_grindset 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

except that they don't just kick you out, they call the police on anyone kicked out

so as funny as that was, the normal conversation would be in the back of a police car

[–]EvidencePlz 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can't stop laughing!

[–]Sininenn 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

walking backwards, while not looking, apparently :D

[–]Diesel-66 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Medusa rules. Get a mirror and only look into it.

[–]denisc9918 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You think 'Staring by MIRROR' is okay?

Fkn animal..

LOL

[–]fonzarelli24891 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men spend all the money at clubs they are torching their own business. It will only take a few times and no more paying customers.

[–]geocitiesuser 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Literally don't look at the women, or talk to the women.

Everything I joke about becomes real. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.

[–]denisc9918 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you're the bloody ONE!

LOL

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The venue also asked clubbers not to turn up if their "sole purpose" for their night out is the meet someone to "pick up".

Yeah, because meeting people is so easy everywhere else there's no reason to go to a club to try it. Will they also kick out women who go there to meet somebody or just have a one nighter? They'll kick out the cougars, too, that often creep out young men and predate on them? Or will this place turn into their Mecca?

If we receive reports of any behaviour that has made someone feel uncomfortable, the reported individual will be removed from the venue and the police will be called.

Yeah, that won't be abused to hell, like by women who simply don't like that a man who they don't find attractive is simply present. Or by a woman who meets her ex there and decides to "show him."

[–]ElectricalTrash404 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't you dare look at your superiors if you know whats best for you!!! /s

[–]TheSpaceDuck 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“If you are, for example, staring at someone from afar – if the attention you are giving someone is unwanted, that is considered harassment," the club said.

"It's a form of harassment to stare at a woman for more than 15 seconds straight" - Satire in 2015, reality in 2022.

[–]basicslovakguy 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

One has to wonder then: what is "wanted" attention ?

Does it mean that now women have to come to men and ask for attention ?
Which is literally "hey you are cute, I want you to simp for me tonight".

[–]EvidencePlz 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is literally...

That's literally what they do nowadays on Twitch, Twitter, Onlyfans, Manyvids etc

[–]Shaundorian 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I just read the google reviews for this and I saw:

"I’m aware of the ‘guest list’ as there were to lines. Before we even tried to queue up we were told no, then we told these two girls who were about to queue that the owner said it’s full capacity unless your on the guest list, which they were not. We told them go and try to get in it won’t work which obviously it did and they were let in no issues and so we’re around 50 other people who were not on the guest list who arrived after us. Also I was not making a claim about gender bias I was simply just stating that a member of your security team said that you in-fact choose who you want let in the club based on looks and so forth, he also continued to state that more time females are treated with way more respect."

So yeah, seems like a dodgy club to me.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This will be a good club for the blind people.

[–]IronJohnMRA[S] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent reframe.

[–]abmins_r_trash 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll just get thrown out for staring because they didn't know they were staring.

[–]ebonyudders 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL so you mean you ladies spend all that time getting dressed doing makeup doing your outfits and so on and so fourth and now no one can look? 🤣🤣 you see how dumb feminism is

[–]AbysmalDescent 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What an insane clown world Australia is. And you know these "officers" will only be looking at the men, who look at women, because that is the only type of looking that considered offensive or predatory. And, clearly, it's deemed offensive and predatory because society clearly has a very negative attitude towards male heterosexuality and because it's become the norm to just presume that if a man looks at a woman, it is with ill or nefarious intent. They won't be policing this for women looking at other women, women looking at men or men looking at other men(ironically, if a man was to be upset by another men looking at him, he would be shamed as being homophobic).

Imagine being so intolerant of male heterosexuality, that it's considered acceptable and commercially viable to police men for even looking at women. In what world would men be forced to require a woman's consent to even find her attractive or to desire her attention, yet still also call women oppressed? You will have parades and months to celebrate homosexuality, while openly shaming, vilifying and attacking men for their heterosexuality. Also funny how feminism can be so hard to champion equality of outcome when it benefits women, and yet still be completely opposed to something so basic as equality of opportunity when it comes to men.

What a joke. I truly hope this club fails.

[–]shydude92 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What an insane clown world Australia is.

That's most of the West to some extent nowadays, but particularly English-speaking countries, which have it by far the worst imo with the exception of some outliers like Sweden which are equally messed up. Sure, other countries also have problems with feminism, and it has filtered into their discourse and some cases legal systems, but the Anglosphere nevertheless stands out for how pervasive its influence is, and how much it has come to influence nevermind political discussion, but simple daily interactions.

As an example of this phenomenon, France is often seen as a very liberal country, but surprisingly to some, not very feminist. I live in Canada, and it's quite common to see French people immigrate to Quebec (I've been to Quebec and speak passable French, but don't currently live there), and a sentiment that you hear again and again from French expats is that Quebec is far more liberal than France, and feminism "is taken seriously" and "not a joke". Of course, Quebec is not exactly an English-speaking region, but most people speak English to some extent and most of Montreal is fluent in English, although French is still the native language for most people, so the influence is not as great, and this is reflected in the attitudes. While Quebec is certainly feminist, I certainly find its women more feminine, open, and less angry and judgmental than English Canada's where a significant portion of women seem downright crazy.

Also, I immigrated myself as a kid from an Eastern European country and have always found English cultures to be rather cold, reserved, and restrained in comparison, with few people expressing their true feelings, creating an ideal environment for something like feminism to take hold and thrive. About the only English-speaking regions that are not fully crazy yet in terms of male-female interactions are the Deep South and states like Florida, where there is a more conservative culture and there are more Hispanics, who are warmer, and tend to be less feminist. In most of the rest of the English-speaking world, normal interactions between the sexes are pretty much a thing of the past.

[–]equalRights111 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps people should make several complaints to this establishment about unwanted staring? Just to illustrate how ridiculous this rule is.

[–]NutsLikeMelons 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I live in Sydney. Fuck this place.

[–]mikesteane 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I assume the club is unable to get enough women in, so like a pandering simp they are trying this. It will mean that: 1. Girls will not be particularly attracted to the venue and 2. guys will also give it a miss. Another woke business looks as if it will be going under.

Edit: of course, if they see the crowds flocking to leave quickly enough, they might reverse the policy. And then guys will make a thing of staring excessively because they can. And the place will still end up failing.

[–]00F_it 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bankruptcy speed run

[–]DifficultTraffic2696 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. Its australia The nation that's gaining a reputation for being misandrists (woke countries)

This is the same nation that had some schools make school boys wear dresses for school

Singled out the boys to stand up in an assembly to apologise for crimes made by men towards women

And ran an advert campaign in cramberra called 'boys will be boys' which was later considered sexist

And once had sheilas wheels, an insurance company that discriminated men and became international until the uk and europe abolished seperate car insurance rates for women

  1. Staring is rude Thats what i was taught growing up, so nobody should be staring at anyone, least of all where alcohol is involved, because two guys staring at one another in a bar or club is likely to result in a fight.

Staring ar someone lustfully is just creepy (be it a man at a woman or a woman at a man), it kinda reminds me of the smiler logo (alton towers ride, google it if you dont know of it)

So for me its unnatural, so i do see their point on harrassment as it is antisocial behaviour

But... How does that get policed Ie how do you tell the difference between a malicious stair vs an innocent one

Examples:

25 yr old in a club, sees a girl across the club, he thinks he went to school with, but cant be sure as shes older and hair style, colour changed and might of put on a bit of weight, might of lost a bit so face has a 80% recemblance

What if he has a lot on his mind and just staring into space but happens to be a girl other side, he isnt intending to stare at her his just dazed

Now this one is illegal, he could be on drugs and monged, again his no threat to the girl, he isnt thinking of the girl, he just isnt concious of his actions because his drugged up (i suppose the club will welcome kicking him out for licence purposes)

What does amaze me is In the late 90s early 2000s it was considered more risky to meet people online and unsafe vs a pub or a club, now this article is saying, dont come to the club to pick up a partner

Crazy

[–]droden 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i thought we reached peak clown world but every week they find a new staircase that goes up.

im not sure if you should protest it or just lean into it and sell boxed wine and cat towers?

[–]denvercaniac 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tell me again about white male privilege and patriarchy.

This is fucking absurd.

[–]2HourCoffeeBreak 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just make clubs for women who don’t want anyone looking at them. Segregation is making such a huge comeback that this shouldn’t be an issue.

Make it just a bunch of cubicles where they can dance alone and don’t have to worry about someone looking at them.

[–]63daddy 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At what point does a look become a stare?

If someone looks at me long enough to observe me staring, doesn’t that mean they were staring at me also?

[–]michalv2000 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Heh. I don't go to clubs anyways. If I want to get drunk, I do it at home. At least there is lower chance of getting robbed or even worse. That's the benefit of being an introvert.

[–]denisc9918 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes!

The rise of the introverts..

Wait.. We'll all be at home . How will anyone know we've 'risen'?

[–]makosh22 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay, so ppl will not go to clubs as glaring is the part o they show you pay for. I am women btw, and as hetero as i am i like to stare when ppl dance

[–]CorvusBlackstone 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, incels predicted this years ago.

[–]Dapper_Revolution_65 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"Staring without verbal consent"... What the fuck is that craziness... How is that not much more disturbing to a woman. Lets do two scenarios.

Scenario 1:

She is at the club. She goes out to dance on the dance floor, and shake her ass, and a man who is sitting at the bar looks over at her, and watches her shake her booty for like half a song, then he goes about his night minding his own business and never interacts with her. She is none the wiser, no harm no foul.

Scenario 2:

She is at the club. She goes out to the dance on the dance floor, and shake her ass, and a man who sitting at the bar looks over her, and watches her shake her booty for about 2 seconds, then he is like, "Oh, I should go get consent for that! I don't want to be a pervert!" So he walks out to this woman on the dance floor and taps her on the shoulder.

him "Excuse me maam"

her "Yes, what is it?"

him "I was wondering if I could stare at ass for the rest of the song over there."

her "What? I can't hear you it's loud in here."

him "I WANT TO STARE AT YOUR ASS IS THAT OKAY!?"

her "WHAT!? WHY!?"

him "WELL I WAS PLANNING ON MASTURBATING LATER AND I THOUGHT YOUR BUTT WOULD A GOOD THING TO ADD TO MY FAP BANK!"

her "You are disgusting! I'm never coming to this club again!"

[–]IgorRenfield 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What constitutes "staring"? How long is that exactly? 5 seconds? 6? 7? 7.5? Are the police going to have timers? I see this club have a lifespan of weeks.

[–]DrakeJack143 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh im starting to feel like superman with my laser eyes. can't wait to see how this club survives it's 'intellectual 9000' business model.

[–]Enough_Ferret 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Believe all policy. Im never going to that club.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And somehow they say we are haters when after that we go MGTOW

[–]MGTOWManofMystery 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's simple really. Just be attractive. Don't be unattractive!

[–]SnooMarzipans5669 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I won't be going to club 77.

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If guys don't buy alcohol, well, that will be a VERY safe space. Good work!

[–]aknabi 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean men starting… you won’t see this enforced on a single women (and if it is an incoming lawsuit, and ending this practice)

[–]winatreddit 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only go to club if you are good looking, else you will get fine and jail, incels are right again lol. Only looks matter.

[–]shydude92 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just wait until mind-reading goes mainstream in about 10-15 years, and you won't be allowed to masturbate to someone without getting their consent. Fun times ahead, boys!

[–]whetrail 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what metoo always wanted, for "unapproved" guys to never interact with attractive women. Can't ask them out, can't look, can't get your jollies from fictional sources, all forbidden unless it's onlyfans otherwise they just want 99% of guys to rot away.

[–]Lorry_Al 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FFS if you don't want people to look at you, wear a burkha.

[–]Mountainking7 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. Don't go to clubs...Stop givingthem attention.
  2. Woman should have decency and stop dressing like sl**s

[–]Sininenn 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Been in a club with almost the exact same policy to this one.

I was sexually harassed on the dance floor, with absolute zero intervention...

Actual hand down my pants, not looking at someone.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't you guys know? A man can rape a woman without even touching her!

[–]Andre_katelin 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Safe space my ass they made the place unsafe for any and every man who'll ever go there =_=

and the saddest part is, I highly doubt a man will be given support if they're stared at EVEN THOUGH it says the rule stands true for anyone. The women though will probably take that shit to court

[–]PRANAV_1234 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People in the 1980s "By 2020 humans will start civilization on Mars and there will be flying cars there will be AI robots who'll serve humans "

People in 2022:

Looking at women without her consent is a crime.

I won't be surprised if in a couple of years they say that man breathing women's exhaled air without her consent is a crime. Like how stupid is this new rule like what's wrong in looking? At this point they are not making laws to protect women from men they are making laws to attack men legally.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't mention anything about it being targeted to men, odd flair.

I actually welcome this policy. I just want to go to the bar area and have drinks while listening to music, leave me alone.

[–]Fast-Mongoose-4989 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The clubs the enforce this will probably loose a lot of money.

[–]Uncle_Touchy1987 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey look at that new club gonna open in its spot in a couple months.

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  • These rules shall apply males only :ı

[–]Interesting-Bug-6048 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If all men stopped staring, women would be most affected. Men don't have an inherent need for attention. Actually their loss

[–]bottleblank 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the kind of shit that turns would-be "allies" into actual anti-feminists. Because it's fucking absurd, just the same as the London Underground posters sending the same messages.

Existing in the same space as a woman is not offensive. Any woman who believes it is, or goes out of her way to find reasons to suggest that it is, needs therapy. Certainly not a job making gender policies for business and government.

[–]Imissyourgirlfriend2 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guys

DO

NOT

GO

TO

CLUBS

The women there, the establishment, they are not your friends. Nightclubs are totally anti-male.

Once women find only themselves at clubs, they'll turn this shit around.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But do you need consent to ask for consent?

[–]guachumalakegua 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let’s just talk about what this is really about;

This is about giving women the power of removing men they find unattractive from this specific venue. You looked at me and I find you unattractive BOOM you’re out, you didn’t buy me or my girlfriends drink BYE BYE!

This idiot (the owner) will see the error of his ways when the Simps that go to these venues and buy overpriced drinks to ‘break the ice’ with these Women take their business elsewhere.

[–]TheSnesLord 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This rule will absolutely be abused by women to get rid of men they don't like (average-looking and ugly men).

Absolutely ridiculous. The idea of gender segregation gets more attractive every day.

[–]Interesting-Eye-5464 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

‘Go woke, go broke’, this place will go under in no time

[–]Njaulv 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hell why even stop here? Just make it to where men cannot approach or look at women at all and men and women have to stand at least a foot apart like in strict religious high school dances and the most pda you can show are side hugs and handshakes.

The bars and clubs I have been to, the common sign of hey come talk to me/buy me a drink is having a lingering look at someone and smiling at them or making other flirtatious body language and gestures. Normally with the guy being expected to approach. I actually know some women that would do this just to dance, some would do it literally just for the free drink, and others would do it for hookups.

This is current year though. Clown world.

[–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll be out of business within a year, and left asking themselves why.

[–]Rifter0876 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they want to put themselves out of business its their money.

[–]jeromeantoinecarter 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Might as well put the for rent sign in the front window now.

[–]spelczech 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The venue suggested clubbers could be booted out if they simply glanced at another person and they took offence - and the cops could be called.

...

"We adopt a policy of ‘always believe the report’ in cases of harassment and feeling unsafe.

I don't see how this could possibly be misused, and I'm sure it will be enforced equally among the sexes (do I really need /s?).

It looks like this club is going for the niche market of people who really aren't looking to meet new people to date, for relationships, etc. Would love to see how they are doing in a year.

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

The rule will never be used as intended, it will just be used maliciously by drunk women who have a vendetta against a guy. Drunk women can now get guys who have never even gone near them into trouble or evicted from the premises.

Think you're safe from false accusations if you don't approach any women? Think again.

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The club said it was happy people to "interact with strangers” but "any engagement MUST begin with verbal consent"

They want you to begin any interaction with "please may I have your consent to talk to you"? Noone ever does that, it's just weird.

I hope this place loses business. As the saying goes go woke go broke.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope this place loses business.

It will.

[–]saito200 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I use sunglasses their entire system of rules goes to hell

[–]sharksville 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if you can get off on a technicality. Just keep blinking. If they ask, say that you were not starring since you did not have your eyes open continuously for a long period and were blinking repeatedly so that doesn’t count as starring. This club just might as well cater to the blind society. If I have eyes and have vision in both eyes, I’m gonna look obviously. If you don’t like it then your more than happy to move away from my sight

[–]UnconventionalXY 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They might as well make it illegal to emit photons if they are going to make it illegal to receive photons.

[–]sharksville 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most likely

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or snap a photo and stare at the photo?

[–]sharksville 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could work. They didn’t say anything about not being able to snap photos

[–]AgincourtSalute 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How will these officers police this? To know whether I’m looking at someone they would have to stare at me, and I don’t give my consent for that!

[–]Opening-Desk 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So just be gay then?

[–]BeansConsumer957 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a fucking joke. Men have been demonised to the point that even looking in the direction of a female is now outlawed. I hate it here

[–]Normal-Yogurtcloset5 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope some conventionally attractive men start reporting women for non-consensual staring. Having hung out in bars and clubs with women in past I know that they stare at men’s crotches, hands and feet to determine the size of their penis and comment to each other. Feminists come up with this BS never thinking that it may be used against them because they’re used to having p-privilege.

[–]toseawaybinghamton 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have any of you seen the video of the blind guy being comforted at a gym for staring at someone? That was fucking hilarious

[–]Clemicus 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I heard about that but didn't know there was a video

[–]Kandidog1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

These goddamn paranoid women are getting way out of control. Please bring back the 70’ and 80’s!!!! Fight back and f**king stare wherever you want, don’t give in to these J.Lo wanna be’s!!!

[–]sideshow999 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm certain the cops will love responding to a staring complaint.

[–]Laarye 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We adopt a policy of ‘always believe the report’ in cases of harassment and feeling unsafe.

"If we receive reports of any behaviour that has made someone feel uncomfortable, the reported individual will be removed from the venue and the police will be called."

I can see no way that this will backfire...

I wonder if the women will be held to the same standards?

I wish I could go, I would see how well the policy works, considering people have a tendency to stare at me wherever I go.

[–]FearlessDepth2578 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not a conservative,( or single) but if I was single, I would head to where conservative women hang out, that is the only way around this: women who aren't professional victims. I would try rodeos to country music festivals, beaches (Florida) and Baptist churches. Anywhere you can find women who didn't hate their fathers and are eager to take that shit out on YOU! There are about to be a who hell of a lot of single/cat lady democrats wondering why they can't land a man.

[–]IheartLinaInverse 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This will end up like that man tax cafe

[–]SaltOk6642 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

To be fair I doubt it'll literally just staring and probably likely going to be more "don't be a creep" and stare for to long even if they say stop ya weirdo

[–]SapperChimo -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So someone is standing there. Is looking at a girl and hoping to get her attention by maybe making eye contact. It happens. She decides she is uninterested and tells the bouncer. Bouncer comes over and tells him he is creep. I can't think of a better way to create a violent reaction. It is insulting and a direct challenge to that guys manhood. Are women subconciously setting this up so they can simply watch Men fight over them? A guy walks up to me and calls me a creep I'm going to lay him flat. Simple as that.

[–]SaltOk6642 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Sure that's alright But let's say they (btw gender doesn't really matter here) stare for a solid 30 seconds longer than they should. The other person is like "stop staring ya fecking spoon" and let's say for the sake of my argument they don't stop staring

I don't know about you Sapper but I'd be a slightly weirded out and maybe call for the big bad bouncer who promptly kicks them in there hole and 8out of the establishment.

At the end of the day context matters and something tells me something as trivial as 👁 👁 is gonna get you kicked out, staring for to long and not stopping even when told to stop is a whole other ball game

Now let me get back to almost falling asleep? Kapish?

[–]SapperChimo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You are out of your mind with delusion if you think gender doesnt matter.

[–]SaltOk6642 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I mean I am out of my mind but like this isn't why

[–]SapperChimo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No, I think it is a big part of it. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Read more. Talk less.

[–]SaltOk6642 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't give a rats ass about gender at this point, I'm just trying to bring the point across that the "no staring" thing isn't that crazy

Also we're typing not talking

[–]SapperChimo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, everyone knows we are typing and not literally talking. I think someone with a mental capacity of an 11 year old would point that out.

[–]SaltOk6642 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lad, chum, buddy, whatever it's 3:34 AM at night. I'm tired. My back hurts. I'm not even that aware of what I'm doing.

And what do you mean everyone? What is this are we having an """argument''"" on Oprah or what?

So I think we can both come back from this learning that, at the end of the day I'm just some weird guy on the Internet and your just somebody....that I used to know

Point is, my frenemy? Have you seen my pfp? Have you seen what I write? You know I'm not exactly known for my intricate arguments I am however known as that weird person who tries to be funny way to hard.

Moral? Idk have a good day and yippy ki ya

[–]SapperChimo -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all about you, is it? I don't care anything about you or how tired you are. The point you are trying to make is whack and I pointed that out. That's it.

[–]AdventurousOwl6137 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tell that club to tell the female customers the same rule applies--THEN see how long they'll be able to stay in business. Boycotts aren't against the law--unless the governments sympathize with these business and ORDER local residents to patronize these joints although THAT can OBVIOUSLY violate any constitution's amendment of freedom of choice. YES, I'll ADMIT to bringing up these extreme scenarios but lobbying and government politics and gone extreme, and I mean it's rediculous and unreasonable.It's no WONDER people are depressed

[–]TempoMuse -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh I’m sorry, is someone holding a gun to your head to go in? Let the business exercise its freedom, you exercise yours….

[–]Daiku_Coffee 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Would you accept a club that only allows white people?

[–]TempoMuse -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So racism in America is equal the the struggle that straight men face at the club?

[–]Daiku_Coffee 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You didn’t answer my question so I won’t answer yours. Next question: Do you think you can prove a negative?

[–]TempoMuse -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay bud. Move on, this is Reddit not some lecture post for your philosophy class. Calm down.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I was confused reading the comments, then looked at what sub this is. This is sad lol

[–]denisc9918 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This is sad lol

You think this sub is sad.. hah ... You should see your comment history!

[–]Daiku_Coffee 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Explain please.

[–]EvidencePlz 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Your comment is very sad indeed.

[+]Catch-the-Rabbit -16 points-15 points-14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How much does a random club in Sydney Australia impact you?

[–]Birdfox22 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All you need to do is air drop your face

[–]Personal_Ice2327 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this serious if so this club is going out of business fast

[–]Alarmed-Call8569 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, can I stare at you?

[–]bfte2 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Club 77 will soon turn into Club 86. Just watch.

[–]JayMeadows 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guarantee you that place will go out of business soon enough.

[–]ABeeBox 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope that virtue signalling works out for their business!

[–]FIVE_6_MAFIA 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

When I was in prison, an inmate looking at a correctional officer for too long was considered "posturing" and could lead to disciplinary action

[–]denisc9918 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So you're equating prison officers to women?

Hmmm, I can't really argue against that.. lol

[–]FIVE_6_MAFIA 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There were female correctional officers in the male prison for some reason. I guess they had a death wish...

[–]denisc9918 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

female correctional officers

I've met a number of them, power tripping witches was what sprung to mind every time.

I stopped talking to them. Got 7 Cobra snakes as pets, it was safer.. LOL

[–]_s1dew1nder_ 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I don’t think anyone wants to be leered at and that’s the point of this…

[–]MBV-09-C 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I await the news article that says the club was forced to shut down due to bankruptcy, and the inevitable attempt to blame 'misogyny' somehow.

[–]foreverclassichunter 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Hey sir I believe I have seen you somewhere before can I stare at you from across the club to remember who you are?" Bro that's stupid next they will ban us from walking at the direction of someone "hey bro I really need that water for my medication but there is that lady over there and I don't think she is going away anytime soon. Drops dead*"

[–]RedneckWapiti 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank god that those local whales and Karen’s can no longer look at me while I drown my sorrows over in the corner.

[–]Interesting-Eye-5464 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another article on it here: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2022/08/sydney-nightclub-bans-staring-without-verbal-consent-in-harassment-crackdown.html?cid=soc4:newshubfb#l79ed1k1py0ans6crz

[–]Harbinger-One 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Of course its in fucking AU lol.

[–]denisc9918 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep, we da best!

World leaders in ALL the important stuff!

[–]Harbinger-One 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You guys seem to have some of the worst of the feminists and their nonsense. I am truly sorry.

[–]denisc9918 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the thought but y'know, it is what it is mate.

The non-Simp men and the few good women together are a minority with no recourse against the injustice. That's a powder keg and the pressure is building daily.

Ain't gonna end well. <shrug> fuck'em

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't the officers need to stare?

[–]King_Dono1002 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol idgaf tbh i dont like going to clubs anyways

[–]MehowSri 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We adopt a policy of ‘always believe the report’ in cases of harassment and feeling unsafe.

This guy in the pink vest stared at me.

[–]Itchy-Rough-551 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just wait, in a couple years I won't even be able to walk up to somebody and smell their crotch

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is like bickering with your siblings only at the retart-dead ( i spelled it like this so you extra chromosome individuals can have a field day with it.) adult level with dumb ass repercussions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course it's Australia, they have no interest in checking the hypocritical feminist agenda.

[–]WeEatBabies 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take your business somewhere else!

[–]saito200 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]Nicholas_VI 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Safety officers in pink vests? I can't take anyone seriously if they're wearing a pink vest as a uniform.

[–]YourMastersRWarching 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course reading between the lines means ‘only men will be subjected to these thought police’

[–]brymjack 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Club looks pretty empty in that pic. 😂

In the US you "can't trespass eyes". If you can see it from a public area, you can look at it.

[–]Marshalchuck 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It looks like they have a girls club bar. Guys aren't going there after they get fined for being able to see.

[–]RytheGuy97 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is 1 nightclub in Australia and y’all are gonna complain about it cause you have nothing better to do

[–]TenuousOgre 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know that old song, “I wear my sunglasses at night?” Just do that. Nice shiny mirrored glasses. They don’t have to have much tint. Then demand they prove you were even looking.

[–]BadTwitch 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't sound like a successful business model.

[–]No-Knowledge-8867 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This place used to be fun and wild years ago when it was under different management. Now they're charging $20 entry and trying to kick people out for looking the wrong direction. If it wasn't for the door charge it might have been worth my time going down there just to see if I could get some girl kicked out.

[–]CptKillsteal 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So practically men our now by proxy banned from this club.

[–]InternationalSound94 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, if I could I would first become Gay at this point, would make it so much easier.

[–]khaste 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you know the world is fucked now when a dude cant even look at a chick for even 5 seconds to make up his mind if he wants to approach/ ask her out. O wait, its 2022... no such thing as irl approach it seems like...

[–]farmerted555 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Basically, this club only wants blind patrons.

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