Oxford proposes a special lump tax for men and that women pay lower taxes.

Sininenn · 2022-10-08T13:36:58+00:00

One possible implementation of that approach could be to introduce a lump sum tax (fee) on men and give the proceeds to women

We already have that. It's called marriage.

niko_xf · 2022-10-08T13:44:13+00:00

How about all the data about childless women making more than men? Are they gonna be subjected to the tax? WTF is going on in universities? Aren't they suppose to be the brightest of all?

ExMuzzy · 2022-10-08T13:58:23+00:00

Why is this moron applying statistics from Norway to the UK.

More women than men work part time, and this makes it more attainable for women to adjust their labour supply when their taxes change.

So he knows exactly why there’s a “pay gap” but wants to fix it by making men pay more tax. A group who more commonly works part time is going to earn less than a group working full time.

Why should the former group be compensated for doing less work? That’s not a fix, that’s just moronic.

Looks like we’re also going to ignore the women who want traditional men when it comes to who stays at home and who goes to work.

nooneinteresting-1 · 2022-10-08T14:04:54+00:00

Again with pay gap bs, men work more hours/overtime - there is no pay gap

Platnium07 · 2022-10-08T17:54:40+00:00

Would this apply to men earning minimum wage?

Would this apply to men and women earning identical salaries at companies which pay the same wage for the same job (which is every company in the UK by law?)

Men have a significantly higher unemployment rate in the UK, would they be compensated as a class for that, meaning even employed men receive said compensation?

Once again, failing to understand the math of the wage gap. Oxford should know better.

Theapexfighter · 2022-10-08T13:49:47+00:00

Well, fuck you oxforf

Nachtlicht_ · 2022-10-08T18:09:42+00:00

Some countries have it already. Due to different retiring age for men and women in Poland (65 to 60), women living up to 8 years longer and various public health care programs exclusive to women one could say that polish tax system is basically redistribution from men to women.

And they wonder why young men are not so keen on all the economically left ideas, make it fair ffs.

Shitpostradamus · 2022-10-08T15:20:19+00:00

It’s about time that men start fighting back against this blatant sexism against us, but there’s still so many simps out there

Temporary_Spend_3111 · 2022-10-08T16:24:26+00:00

If i am taxed because of my biological sex and gender. I am not paying. Im going on a hunger strike, and ill meet incarceration with a smile.

This shit is wrong and shouldnt be taken seriously by any lawmaker worth their salt

Fearless-File-3625 · 2022-10-08T15:33:06+00:00

(taxes - government welfare) is positive for men and negative for women. So men already subsidise welfare of all women and women already pay lower taxes.

ComplexProjection · 2022-10-08T14:24:13+00:00

So if I identify as a woman, I will get money ? Bring it on !

Sr_Nunes · 2022-10-08T13:50:04+00:00

That would be the day I stop working and move somewhere else.

pearl_harbour1941 · 2022-10-08T17:03:44+00:00

As a group, women never break even on their taxes over their lifetime. They take more from the system than they pay in. That's right now.

Men as a group actually are net tax positive over their lifetimes. Men already pay for women's tampon tax reduction.

Why do we owe more??

hmm-3- · 2022-10-08T19:01:33+00:00

As a woman this makes me angry. All I have to say is, why?? The pay gap bs? Look at the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics!! Giving women lower taxes while raising the men's would just make it unfair. People are so stupid it makes me sick.

Izalias · 2022-10-08T16:24:18+00:00

Oh the bachelor tax... let me just check which nations implemented that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_tax

And yes... it's 100% homophobic.

#Get fucking cancelled Oxford.

63daddy · 2022-10-08T14:52:46+00:00

Those who choose to work less and earn less already do pay less taxes.

In10sity · 2022-10-08T19:41:54+00:00

First line of the article

We all know about the gender pay gap

Straight to the trash can

somethingneet · 2022-10-08T15:58:03+00:00

Imagine trying to institute lower taxes for women and still getting no bitches

matrixislife · 2022-10-08T17:47:46+00:00

If men were earning more than women then income tax would be the one that sorts it out. That this guy believes that the pay gap is anything but a myth says volumes about his intelligence and motivations.

az226 · 2022-10-08T18:07:24+00:00

Let’s tax part time workers less and give them money because they earn less than full time workers. /s

techno_bm · 2022-10-08T18:51:01+00:00

This has already happened in some EU countries where women don't even have to pay taxes at all. The double standards ridiculous. They complain about the patriarchy then push for a matriarchy. Between their insufferable attitude, the insanely biased laws, and the barriers they constantly setup to even talk to a below average woman its not worth it to date a woman nowadays. Its depressing yet hilarious how they demand so much yet do so little. At this point its safer to become gay and adopt/surrogate.

wildwolfcore · 2022-10-09T03:07:02+00:00

I mean, on average, women already pay significantly less taxes than men.

Trosso · 2022-10-08T18:56:51+00:00

I wouldn’t worry it’ll never come to pass

2wicky · 2022-10-08T19:36:35+00:00

"One possible implementation of that approach could be to introduce a lump sum tax (fee) on men and give the proceeds to women. This would reduce both income inequality and economic distortions."
The problem with this is that men are already giving their proceeds to women. Men in general over the course of their life time will pay more in taxes than what they get back. Women in general on the other hand remain in deficit all their lives.
In that light, the pay gap is deserved and fair, because when it comes to taxes, women aren't pulling their weight.

chaython · 2022-10-08T20:46:32+00:00

Taxes are a percentage of your wealth, its less the less you make so the whole headline makes no sense to the data. They already pay less tax, technically, if the data is correct.

RHYMES_WITH_AGINA · 2022-10-09T00:30:54+00:00

Are you a biologist?

Good thing everyone can be gender-fluid and change genders as easy as changing tube socks. Wham! I’m now a female. Lower tax bracket and special treatment please

oggyb · 2022-10-09T01:55:57+00:00

It is likely that many societies support such a principle. Governments sometimes protect certain characteristics, such that policy should be “blind” with respect to them. Another popular intuition is that it is fairer to be treated based on a choice rather than based on something one cannot change. More broadly, surprisingly few taxes are based on characteristics that are hard to change. This is strange to an economist, as characteristics seem like perfect bases for taxation: they are related to earnings potential and a tax on them leaves little scope for any behavioural response. Still, such taxes are contrary to common intuitions about what is right.

Reads like the ramblings of a sociopath.

AirSailer · 2022-10-08T15:31:05+00:00

Women have less earnings over their lifetime, therefore we should tax men more.

Men have less years of life over their lifetime, therefore we should <insert measure> women more.

evilnaughtydang · 2022-10-08T18:17:58+00:00

Should women pay lower taxes? How about a follow up report on the percentage of taxation that's consumed by women as opposed to men?

safetaco · 2022-10-08T16:35:54+00:00

Can I identify as a woman? A lesbian woman?

PonderingMan33 · 2022-10-08T19:06:09+00:00

Late ... In india we have separate tax concession for women in property, additional interest in deposit and also concessions for loans.....

LocksleyFletcher · 2022-10-08T19:27:08+00:00

Hope she sees this, bro.

dlebauche · 2022-10-08T20:43:27+00:00

Pretty sure men already pay the lion's share of taxes in all nations already

JoeSmith1907 · 2022-10-08T21:51:41+00:00

He ends with: "In conclusion, even though tax policy could address the gender pay gap, it does not follow that gender-based taxation is the optimal tax policy. Horizontal equity may provide a justification for why governments, even though they worry about the gender gap, do not set lower income taxes for women than men."

But he's still talking about a gender pay gap rather than an earnings gap.

Klutzy_Pride_5644 · 2022-10-08T22:20:23+00:00

Simpler solution would be to apply the same social norms to women as we do to men. Make their entire worth be based on their ability to earn money and leave them in the streets is they can't support themselves. Then, the whole driver for the "wage gap"will disappear because women will have the same pressure to earn that men have

DouglasWallace · 2022-10-08T22:20:50+00:00

Already, in the UK, if women were to pay the same amount of income tax each day as men, they would stop paying tax around 17 May each year.

And someone wants to disadvantage men even more?!?

alclarkey · 2022-10-08T23:32:11+00:00

That's right. Tax men more so their families can suffer more. FFS.

2022-10-09T00:11:00+00:00

What a cuck!

iainmf · 2022-10-09T00:17:04+00:00

No taxation without representation.

jmac323 · 2022-10-09T00:25:27+00:00

Next, “All Men In Oxford Now Identity As Women And Cis Women Will Pay Higher Taxes.”

Mawnster73 · 2022-10-09T01:49:06+00:00

Peak sexism?

Drekalo · 2022-10-09T05:30:01+00:00

It would be unconstitutional in just about every western country.

mysteriousneel7 · 2022-10-09T05:33:22+00:00

Fuck you Oxford

Throw_awayyerr · 2022-10-09T05:40:25+00:00

How to lose a work force 101

DavidByron2 · 2022-10-08T15:56:54+00:00

Women do pay lower taxes of course.

strawberryenjoyer · 2022-10-08T19:23:01+00:00

UK Moment

_Denzo · 2022-10-08T20:24:12+00:00

If they did this to women they would be torn down for “discrimination” but doesn’t discrimination apply to box sexes?

NMBoavida · 2022-10-08T20:31:21+00:00

More still? Isn't it enough all the extra welfare women leech from the system?

DA-ZACHYZACHY · 2022-10-08T20:52:41+00:00

So pretty much a redistribution of mens wealth. Sounds like a communist policy but what do I know.

Sewblon · 2022-10-08T21:22:35+00:00

However, many of the reasons why women earn less than men are structural. Different occupations have different salaries, and there are more women in sectors with lower pay, such as health care. If this is hard to change, why should governments not use tax policy to compensate women for their lower pay, at least until the gender pay gap is closed?

Because some sectors being higher paying than others isn't ipso facto bad. Some jobs require more training, more hours, or are just less intrinsically rewarding than other jobs.

Anih1list · 2022-10-08T23:08:37+00:00

Resolved: Britain is a lost cause. It’s been swallowed up by TERFS. Just nuke it already

GainzGoblino · 2022-10-09T01:38:43+00:00

"tOp uNivErsItY" was told in college, what a pool of pretentious dipshits

test90002 · 2022-10-09T07:48:43+00:00

Did anyone finish reading the article? In the last part, he explains why gender-based taxation is not done. The title "Oxford proposes..." is highly misleading because (1) this is an individual, not the university itself, and (2) the article doesn't actually propose anything, it simply analyzes the possibility.

PrimeWolf88 · 2022-10-09T08:48:47+00:00

Rather than tax men more (they already pay more tax than women) and give women more benefits (they already get more benefits from their female privilege) why not go the other way and compensate men for getting less out than they put in, and penalise women for using/receiving too much.

First. Cut the benefits of women. This frees up more resources for the needy or homeless, and will force women to work longer hours (or any hours in many cases), boosting the economy.

Second. Give priority to men when making NHS and GP appointments. Men work longer hours and have a lower life expectancy. This will help them see a doctor since women use the NHS way more than men and don't pay as much in to it. Men can't spend their mornings calling constantly for an emergency appointment like stay-at-homers can. Most British women also haven't had any exercise in at least 10 years according to a recent study.

Third. Increase the retirement age for women since they live longer than men due to all the imbalances in healthcare and work. This will also boost their pensions for when they do retire.

Fourth. Stop rigging education in favour of how women learn and discriminatory college/university admissions in favour of women. They're less likely to pay back their student loans, costing the taxpayer money, and they're already the majority in colleges and universities due to this. End the grants to boost the admissions of women for the same reasons: they're already the majority and it's blatantly discriminatory.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2022-10-08T21:48:44+00:00

Women are already net tax recipients as a group.

Just identify as a woman then.

DevilishRogue · 2022-10-08T19:13:46+00:00

As a demographic women are not net contributors to tax, they are net beneficiaries. Only individual women are net contributors. The author seems not to realise this in their thinking.

2022-10-08T20:58:24+00:00

Only if equal numbers of women are in the armed services and bricklaying professions, if not, the deal is off.

NtsParadize · 2022-10-08T18:55:43+00:00

Taxation is theft

LastSleep4274 · 2022-10-08T17:45:15+00:00

I iddntify as a woman so...👀

TFME1 · 2022-10-08T17:53:24+00:00

No big surprise. From what I can interpret, Liberals and Lefties suffer from both an ignorance of basic logic and an ignorance of basic arithmetic, let alone the advanced versions of them. Also an ignorance of basic reality.

PonderonDonuts · 2022-10-08T17:55:27+00:00

Yaaaasss queeeennn!!

RoMaNuL_23 · 2022-10-08T20:46:28+00:00

well, I would pay the tax, but no more fines for speeding and driver suspension and legal street racing. After a few nights of women being afraid in the night because of street racing they will scrap the idea.

Surv1ver · 2022-10-08T21:10:40+00:00

Peak Norwegian moment 👌🏿. Guys remember this next time you see a fight between Danes and Norwegian mountain monkeys here on Reddit.

lsangst · 2022-10-09T13:29:28+00:00

The article states that this policy SHOULD NOT be used:

"it does not follow that gender-based taxation is the optimal tax policy."

They analyzed the possibility that taxes based on gender could lower the pay gap, but concluded that it was not an "optimal" choice. They instead say "horizontal equity" justifies not using gendered-based taxation.

2022-10-09T16:04:14+00:00

I don’t think anything posted in this sub is actually expected to be read. It’s all rage bait

2022-10-08T13:43:44+00:00

Terrible

In10sity · 2022-10-08T19:39:11+00:00

4th paragraph reminds me of Rochelle from Everybody hates Chris, “I don’t need this, my husband has two jobs!”

EnormousPurpleGarden · 2022-10-09T06:04:43+00:00

The UK doesn't have an entrenched constitutional bill of rights, so this could actually happen.

aigars2 · 2022-10-09T06:54:26+00:00

Say what

The__nameless911 · 2022-10-09T08:52:37+00:00

This is luckily not from Oxford, but from some sjw who isn't even into economics

Jemtex · 2022-10-09T09:44:03+00:00

Yes so men just identify as women and you a transphobe if you say I am not a women

equalRights111 · 2022-10-09T10:59:47+00:00

I propose a special lump tax for Oxford and lower taxes/fees for other universities. Oxford and Cambridge have privilege over other universities, so it is only fair. How does that sound?

pennywise1235 · 2022-10-09T12:08:56+00:00

Someone should tell this idiot that saying bullshit like this is not going to improve your odds of getting laid.

Title	Oxford proposes a special lump tax for men and that women pay lower taxes.
Author	NeoNotNeo
Upvotes	791
Comments	156
Date	October 8, 2022 1:31 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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