man and woman homeless experiment. the woman got food the man was told to die.

Pz5 · 2017-12-12T14:36:16+00:00

To the morons saying this is fake you've obviously never been homeless. There are vastly more shelters and resources for homeless women. Men's shelters do lotteries for beds and half or more of the men end up without a bed each night. Women also make considerably more money panhandling.

Der_Edel_Katze · 2017-12-12T15:16:00+00:00

The very definition of society. Man bad, woman weak.

Squatting_Buffalo · 2017-12-12T15:52:49+00:00

I am not saying this doesn't happen, but the ending seems really fishy to me. All the people who gave food and money to the woman just HAPPENED to still be near and in a group? Did I miss something? Serious, if I missed something I will take it back.

mwobuddy · 2017-12-12T15:29:45+00:00

Weird because both are at least moderately attractive.

mensmod · 2017-12-12T17:17:07+00:00

Keep in mind that there was a video made of a woman walking around and being catcalled. People called it out for deceptive editing. These kinds of things can be deceptive.

I think this video does a great thing, drawing attention to something that many people here believe is true. But try to beware of our own biases and don't take this as "proof" but rather just a good effort at illustrating something that we believe.

2017-12-12T13:33:08+00:00

#MensPrivileges

KingRobotPrince · 2017-12-12T15:30:05+00:00

The girl had no hat, wearing bright clothes, shaking her little cup, and was looking up at people. It's far easier to ignore the guy.

They should have made the situations a lot more similar.

Definitely a bit of bias, the guy is practically hiding.

Was it because I was a man?

Run a proper experiment and find out!

tetraourogallus · 2017-12-12T17:32:31+00:00

This is the empathy gap, the driving force of female privilege.

Ransal · 2017-12-12T21:56:46+00:00

Many issues here.
1. Those cards given to the woman are really questionable, set up perhaps. Still doesn't explain the rando's giving $$ though so that's real.
2. She makes eye contact and looks directly at people, this makes people uncomfortable if they do not help, like they're being judged.
3. She's active, shaking the cup, creating something the eye fixates on.

He doesn't move at all.
He has his head down and doesn't look at a single person.

Results are as expected but not really an even experiment.

Blutarg · 2017-12-12T15:54:41+00:00

What privilege.

forestpunk · 2017-12-12T20:13:19+00:00

Hear what everyone's saying about this being an anecdotal video and not much use as an actual study, but can confirm this by my own experience. While I was never homeless for very long, and I've never been very good at eye contact or engaging people, I very nearly died. Barely ANY sympathy. Some nice folks gave me a little bit of food, as they assumed I'd spend the money on drugs and alcohol (I'm sober, fwiw.) I actually WAS trying to raise money for food, so that was okay by me.

My lady friends were able to live as professional panhandlers for years and years and years. I've seen a woman make $100/hr. NO SWEAT, without hardly even trying or even having a great locations. Just a local convenience store or something.

Despite that we are all equal, and are supposedly treated equal in this society, men and women are treated very differently.

machingunwhhore · 2017-12-12T22:47:01+00:00

Remember that 1 out of 4 homeless people are women. So let's help out and lower that to 1 out of 10!!! (Is the /s needed?)

Factushima · 2017-12-13T02:36:48+00:00

Female privilege.

wiseprogressivethink · 2017-12-13T03:05:46+00:00

most homeless women are dangerously mentally unstable individuals who are very difficult to help. some men who are homeless also fit this category, of course, but often they are just down on their luck types, or people who could be greatly helped by admission into a substance abuse treatment program. there are a lot more homeless men than homeless women because homeless women who aren't complete wrecks find it easier to get some form of assistance.

00saucy00 · 2017-12-12T16:49:10+00:00

There might be something to their theory, but the way they tested it wasn’t really good enough to know for sure.

I agree that if someone did a proper scientific study into this over a longer period of time it would be far better.

2017-12-12T21:53:42+00:00

If anyone lives in LA, you can see this for yourself. But outshine the Trader Joe’s, bear LAX, there is his gypsie woman with a baby pan handling. She makes damn good money. I feel so bad for the kid. Sad to have a mother, and come from such a group of people.

BlueOrange22 · 2017-12-13T15:53:00+00:00

It's like this in society at large, both in law and social trends. Homeless men ignored, male dv victims blamed, men's health underresearched, male gap in education ignored, etc.

And the people who say "a homeless woman is more vulnerable" , that just isn't a valid argument for leaving a homeless man to freeze/starve (which is exactly what happens in London with the councils). Homeless men need food and shelter like any other person.

magicalraven · 2017-12-12T12:37:56+00:00

Good concept for a video. Fuck these people who keep asking for likes and subscribes.

WEVE_WOKEN_THE_HIVE · 2017-12-12T13:13:14+00:00

These are usually fake nowadays.

HorseIsLikeMan_ · 2017-12-12T17:51:10+00:00

EVERYTHING this asshole does is fake and staged. He and his buddy were the ones behind the “Boycott Delta” racism stunt. None of the things that happen in his videos are real. Please don’t spread sensationalized misinformation like this.

Mr-Zero-Fucks · 2017-12-12T21:29:36+00:00

That people don't look homeless at all, and the people passing by are either bad actors or just playing along.

It looks really, really staged. What a shame, the message is important but that's the wrong way to do it.

Cuisinart_Killa · 2017-12-13T02:08:22+00:00

Because everyone knows women need men to survive. The man failing to survive is inferior to them int heir minds, the woman is just business as usual.

berger77 · 2017-12-13T04:51:48+00:00

Wonder what the difference would be between race.

n0tqu1tesane · 2017-12-14T10:07:40+00:00

Ok, first off, I've been homeless. Recently. In fact, if you stretch the definition a very small amount, i still am. Ironically if I win my (now twelve year) fight for my disability this coming spring and get SSI, i'll no longer qualify for low in come housing, and my rent will ump to 105% or so of max possible pay...

In general, I don't give money. The one exception was the street musician who knew the song when I told him to "play me some fiddle!".

However, I'll try to be helpful, give socks, food, or bus passes when I can.

There are certain things that I dislike, and will refuse to help. In no particular order:

Shopping carts. Unless you can prove otherwise, I will assume your cart is stolen, and while I can overlook minor theft of necessities, a cart isn't one. It's also a weight shacked to you, holding you down. you need to think like a backpacker, as light as you can.
Excessive smoking or similar. I understand a large percentage smoke, and the "in" thing for the younger generation is sucking on robot dicks, but surrounding yourself with a cloud of smoke keeps people like me away, and it indicates that you are likely in need of money management, not money.
Obvious public drunkenness. Pretty much same reasons as above.
Weed or illegal drug use. The first for reasons in smoking, above. The latter, while I consider myself a rational anarchist, and in general don't care what you put in your body, i also don't want to pay for it.
Playing the veteran card. I'm a firm believer that the current makeup of the US military is mostly unconstitutional, and that the majority of military actions by the US were either "misguided", "empire building" or caused by our instance of sticking our noses into places we shouldn't, not honoring our treaties, or refusing reasonable agreements. Since my mother was born a few months after the last war we fought ended, and my grandfather, who was barely twenty at her birth died recently, I'm fairly certain you're not a war veteran. I'm sorry you made, or were forced to make a bad choice, but especially if you are verbally bigoted towards others, I'm not going to reward you for your "service".
Which brings us to the next point. Guilt tripping. Lines like "I guess you don't care about veterans", or "You obviously aren't a Christian" aren't going to help you. The first we covered, the second, no, I'm not, and my religion is not relevant to my choice to give you a gift, unless you choose to drag it in.
Racism. anything about Jews, blacks, whites, purple people eaters... that's a big nope. And I don't care who you are, the N word needs to be history! also, I don't give a fuck if you swear, but if you can't make it through a sentence without swearing, you have a bigger problem you need to deal with first.
Blocking public sidewalks. I especially see this with smokers and carts, although I know of a spot that has lawn chairs. I'm not going to "pay toll" to use the sidewalk.
Refusing available services. I understand it may b a long walk, I too have trouble in that area. but at least in this city, you've got about an even chance the bus driver will let you ride for free, and if you have money in that cup, it can pay a fare also. This is especially true when those services are within line of sight. I understand taxation is theft, and I struggled hard with that issue. But as above, I'm also a rational anarchist, and if one is forced to pay, one might as well try and recoup some of what they lost. in addition, most of those services mostly run on donations, and are usually happy to accept volunteers if you want to "work for your dinner".
criminal activity. A big pet peeve for me is littering, but crime in general. victim less crimes, i can ignore, as long as you don't try and push them on me.
Medical issues. If you smell like an outhouse, have open sores, etc, i'm not risking my health to go near you.
Acting "excessively" "Crazy". my memory is bad, but it seems I run into more women with this issue, then men. I'm not talking about the person who talks to themselves all day, but those who rant and rave about. I try and stay away from crazy.

I'll help when I can, but they need to meet me part way.

ExpendableOne · 2017-12-12T14:23:53+00:00

Definitely seems fake but, even if it is, it doesn't really make any the message any less true. Homeless men and women would be treated differently, no doubt about it.

macindoc · 2017-12-12T17:31:10+00:00

This isn’t an experiment, it’s an anecdote, no matter how “true” it is. I hate it when people appropriate science; no different from feminists claiming there is patriarchy because some dude sent a nasty text after getting ghosted compared to a girl brushing it off.

bfunk07 · 2017-12-12T14:06:59+00:00

Because no one hires actors and no one can edit video. Maybe if this was turned into an actual documentary where they went homeless for a week.

Edit- to all the hate: my point was that there was no way to verify that any of this true or false, so claiming so through anecdotal evidence serves you no good.

^{^{dont^{be^{stupid,^stupid.}}}}

Whisper · 2017-12-12T20:18:27+00:00

This experiment shows what's wrong with MRAs and their plans.

Not that the conclusion isn't completely true. Yes, everyone is more sympathetic to women. Duh.

But MRAs, despite the fact that you despise feminists for all the man-hating, seem to determined to emulate them by following the same course of trying to change biological realities with social persuasion.

The preference for women over men is not cultural. It is hardwired in. You can't change it. People of both sexes will always voluntarily give women more attention, time, sympathy, resources, and care than men. This is because eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap.

Therefore equality is female supremacy. Fight for "equality", and you are fighting for a world where everyone is equal and women are more equal.

This is why men are so disadvantaged today. Equality created that, and your solution is "more equality!"?

You are putting out fire with gasoline.

_Concept · 2017-12-12T17:38:36+00:00

I'm curious about that sponsor at the end, EduBirdie, is it basically a cheating service?

SurturOfMuspelheim · 2017-12-12T19:05:00+00:00

I'm not saying this is false, but youtube pranks/experiments like this are almost always fake

BluNautilus · 2017-12-12T19:09:10+00:00

The world hates men, simple as that.

2017-12-12T20:52:22+00:00

The meme "Being a girl is living life on easy mode" couldn't be any more true than this.

ShittDickk · 2017-12-12T22:28:26+00:00

Lemme wear this DIESEL jacket to look homeless.

2017-12-13T04:17:59+00:00

Yea that looks about right

McGauth925 · 2017-12-16T14:32:03+00:00

In the current social climate, it makes sense that all men are inherently evil - even men who have no power whatsoever. Thus, even homeless men deserve to be punished for the patriarchy.

Settlers6 · 2017-12-12T17:33:37+00:00

Guys, this is anecdotal as all hell. Please, don't let this become the "10 hours of walking in NYC as a woman" of the mens' rights movement.

2017-12-12T17:34:13+00:00

First this, now we find out even the flu is tougher on men.

MattLorien · 2017-12-12T20:43:26+00:00

Weak evidence (such a this video) is worse than no evidence at all. Don’t post shit like this if you actually want to see men’s rights move forward. This is circle jerking that will convince 0 outsiders and only work to deligitamize this sub.

Stuartiebloke · 2017-12-13T03:55:05+00:00

Whatever.

Kuramo · 2017-12-13T04:47:59+00:00

Just because he's raising awareness on homeless men, I think it would be a great idea to buy one of his shirts at discount.

Edit: What a shame, MRA's deem this video as biased. I really more and more certain of we men being the worst enemy of ourselves.

genuinely_insincere · 2017-12-13T05:17:56+00:00

In most large cities there are church programs and shelters that provide you food. Go to where the other homeless people are. They're camped outside the food charity, living on the sidewalk until their turn to get into the shelter, which takes months to get into.

This is sensationalist from start to end. They were expecting a result like this and it made a self fulfilling prophecy. Men and women homeless both get raped by other homeless. They both get beat up and told to die and they both get given food and change. Fuck off with this reactionary it.

tachyarrhythmia · 2017-12-12T21:20:37+00:00

You're grasping at straws when you have to use youtube social "experiments" to prove a point. Anecdotal BS.

AstroTibs · 2017-12-13T02:28:53+00:00

Punctuation. The man can't "die" food. Save users a re-read.

gabriot · 2017-12-12T20:54:24+00:00

That's all well and good but anecdotal evidence doesn't prove jack shit beyond proving that a scenario is possible. It does ZERO to show you what a systemic trend is.

Title	man and woman homeless experiment. the woman got food the man was told to die.
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Date	December 12, 2017 12:10 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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