We all know that ridiculous bear vs man question going around currently. Who would a woman prefer to stumble across in the woods; a random man or a random bear? Some women are choosing the dude, some are choosing the bear, and a lot of men online are getting upset about the latter choice.
However, I want to discuss the fact that a lot of men online also wouldn't choose to be alone with a random woman due to the threat of false accusations. We aren't just talking about mgtow either, but average everyday men just out here living their lives. From men who say that dating scares them because of the threat of being called out for stuff they never did, to men saying they wouldn't help a drowning woman because she could later claim he groped her, some men do have a fear of the potential damage an unknown woman could create for him.
I've encountered this personally at my full-time job, where I'm required to go out to people's homes and survey their land for building permits/landscape work. Many times it's a couple I'm meeting with, but there's also times I'll be meeting a man by himself. For about 1/3 of those appointments, the client has either requested I reschedule for when their wife is home, ask me to bring another surveyor to just be around, or they insist on recording our interaction. About a dozen times the client apologized and said he simply doesn't feel comfortable being around women, and could one of my male coworkers do the visit instead.
Their general explanation for these requests amount to "no offense intended, but you're a woman I don't know". The first few times this happened, it did seem sexist...until I learned the same thing happens to my male coworkers with some of their female clients. In general, it appears that for a decent segment of the population, they simply want to take precautions when dealing with strangers of the opposite sex, or else avoid the threat entirely. For women this tends to be physical harm, for men this tends to be social harm. BOTH are valid reasons for concern.
So I figured let's open this up to a (hopefully) productive discussion.
Men, have you ever not gone somewhere or did something purely because you wanted to avoid being around women you don't know? Women, have you ever done the same? Did you feel guilty about wanting to avoid a person solely because of their sex, or did you simply view it as a necessary precaution? Have you ever been in a dangerous or extremely uncomfortable situation with the opposite sex where you ended up wishing you'd declined being around them?
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