RP focuses only on success stories that fit their narrative

Gravel_Roads · 2026-03-10T11:50:00+00:00

I’m not RP, but I do see RP men talk about their failures and what they had to learn to be successful.

There ARE parts of RP that would improve your dating prospects (at least from the old school RP, which had shit like “Keeping Frame” and “I Am The Prize”.)

So you “aren’t following RP correctly” if you haven’t found success yet, by their dogma.

The reason these dudes turned to RP is less because they don’t think BP “works” and more because they don’t know how BP manages to make it work.

So I think the reason you don’t see RP talking about failure is the default assumption is failure. Because only men who turn to RP are men who failed as BP.

Null_82 · 2026-03-10T11:45:29+00:00

Unlike bluepill lmao. Like how every woman conveniently has "an ex" who was bald and fat, and had a small dick, but who she was with for his great personality. Bluepill success stories are literally "my girlfriend goes to another school"-level.

brassbuffalo · 2026-03-10T15:48:06+00:00

What does "Stories about men who started to filter more based on what they want, and showed genuine self" actually mean? To me it sounds like you're describing a man who has options filtering and finding the one that is most compatible. If that's not the case, what are you describing? If that is the case, don't you think guys would be far mpre interested in how he got those options, nlt how he picked the best one?

anonymousppd123123 · 2026-03-10T12:00:06+00:00

Some success stories about men who actually learned to be someone pleasant around, and changed nothing else.

Thats game/charisma yeah

Some stories about men who started to filter more based on what they want, and showed genuine self.

Lol. Tell me one of these stories

DietTyrone · 2026-03-10T17:36:51+00:00

Some success stories about men who actually learned to be someone pleasant around, and changed nothing else.

The problem is, this always seems to be a hypothetical scenario women like to bring up. When are we actually going to see some concrete evidence of numerous men niceguymaxxing and it actually paying dividends lol?

If anything, we see plenty of the reverse, and a lot of those guys end up red or even black pilled.

PassengerCultural421 · 2026-03-10T17:48:23+00:00

Blue pillers do the same thing. Only focus on success stories of unattractive men who end up with hot wives by having "personality".

duhthrowawey · 2026-03-10T11:53:41+00:00

Bluepill success stories are from old people or chad it is not applicable in todays age.

I do agree mainstream Redpill success stories are too wide of a margine to actually be success like I personally want a loving relationship not constantly sleeping around with random women. They delude themselves into trying for women thinking they can become chad but that is the exact opposite of what chad does...

DriverInitial8305 · 2026-03-10T12:15:39+00:00

I mean blue pill does the same thing. Both of them honestly are too delusional. I think there’s truth from both but the polarization just takes it too far. You don’t have to be a misogynist or a simp to get women

ViolentShallot · 2026-03-10T13:07:25+00:00

I have issues with work interviews. I come unprepared for them, and my attire could use some tuning. I am always underdressed.

I didn't notice. I read it somewhere, though, and I got a number of tips, like investigating the company and asking good questions. I also get nervous, and I got the advice to go to many interviews, push through the panic, and pretend Im calm and collected until I actually get calm and collected.

It landed me a number of good jobs, and eventually a great job.

I know a lot of people that have the same issues I do. Underdressing, underpreparing, anxiety. I gave the tips to those people, and many of them got some success with it.

I am aware there are some other individuals that need to underdress a bit and show themselves as less eager. But that was never my problem, or that of anyone I know. So I talk about success stories of people that shared my problem.

SecondEldenLord · 2026-03-10T13:30:49+00:00

Not sure what red pillers you listened to but most I listened to called themselves a loser in the past. Most of them admitted their failures and learned and adapted from them. Doing nothing and expecting change just for your personality doesn't cut it. Real change is what they promote like getting money and getting in shape, which is something women respond to real well.

Local-Willingness784 · 2026-03-10T16:10:25+00:00

by that logic, you could also be biased on seeing those super genuine, cute guys and believing they are not redpilled at all and just happen to be cool, rejecting the possibility that maybe those idiots and cult-like redpillers really may be onto something when it comes to what women like or don't like, right?

SpoiledHoochie · 2026-03-10T20:28:45+00:00

I completely agree. I recently published a dissertation titled A Bitter Pill to Swallow, which explores the radicalization of the Red Pill community and how their ideology has landed them on US domestic terrorism watchlists. The paper also includes a short portion on the UK and Australia, both of which have recently drafted legislation to regulate these men. Not only are they completely biased in what they consider a success, but their refusal to accept outside perspectives creates a closed off environment that actively breeds radicalization.

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KayRay1994 · 2026-03-10T14:43:30+00:00

In all fairness (and I this as someone who’s very ver anti Rap and anti ‘pill categorization’ in general), nearly every ideology, group, set of solutions ever cherry pick the success stories that fit their narrative because they are trying to sell their narrative.

Though also, when TRP does work

1) it works exponentially less than promised

2) it encourages and normalizes ‘success’ at the cost of others, including the one you are trying to date.

Frankly, an ideology could be the most successful ideology I’ve ever seen and I’d still oppose it if it had manipulation and coercion as its primary tactic, is driven by full blown bitterness and runs on hatred of the self and others

Logos1789 · 2026-03-10T18:00:30+00:00

Some men can’t be saved, unfortunately. It’s still better that they take off the rose colored glasses that society wants men to view women, sex, and relationships through.

Kingcrow33 · 2026-03-10T21:14:23+00:00

Then you should easily be able to provide examples.

Theawkwardmochi · 2026-03-11T19:15:29+00:00

RP focuses only on success stories that fit their narrative

Yes so do blue, black and pink pills (not that the last two HAVE success stories) and whatever other colors there are. This is true for literally any ideology out there.

Every pill is biased, cherry picks facts and research. Human brains have avoidance of cognitive discomfort hardwired into them. That's why it's so tempting to ignore roughly 50% of the facts and build your entire worldview around the remaining 50%. Acknowledging different viewpoints and noticing nuance is work. Brains hate having to do work. Especially when you can get a community that will agree with you and assure you that you're right for the mere price of dumbing yourself down to their level.

The need for belonging does hilarious things to people.

pie-mart · 2026-03-12T16:25:55+00:00

I think what happens to some guys is in their awkward teen years no girl wants to date or sleep with them. They turn to red pill. Become an adult. And do red pill things to get a womans attention...

And assume their success is because of that versus the fact they are now an acne-less adult who grooms better and has his own place and job and a better fashion sense and maybe you know, looks like a man.

They then surmise any success is purely red pill advice implemented rather than the shit ton of other factors that are at play.

Like the man growing up. The women he deals with being open to certain activities or a relationship

Ie, in college lots more women willing to have casual sex vs getting married

But women past college are less likely to want casual sex and are more willing to desire long term relationships

Getting women at clubs and bars vs libraries, parks or other day time recreational places.

So many factors to discuss in success that have very little to do with anything he does

Lift_and_Lurk · 2026-03-10T13:23:47+00:00

TRP is a pitch to (often now) very young men with an idea that they can become a “High value man”.

But, they don’t actually tell them what that is specifically. Because they don’t even know. It’s just something that sounds desirable and so it hooks struggling boys in, constantly watching and consuming (maybe even spending money) on the RP hoping that “soon” they will understand what it is and they will “become HV”

https://youtube.com/shorts/wg7gt65gBL8?si=pJCXzs3wu37cVDZb

Ashamed-Sound5610 · 2026-03-10T15:59:35+00:00

You can apply this logic to both sides of the debate.

Title	RP focuses only on success stories that fit their narrative
Author	Lemon_gecko
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Date	March 10, 2026 11:37 AM UTC (4 months ago)
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