Title says it all. Almost 60 or so years after the “sexual revolution”, casual sex has become the norm from high school all the way up through adulthood with the development of highly effective contraceptives. A large contributing factor to the decay or marriage. Men LARGELY want sex for the most part (due to testosterone and biology) - women LARGELY want commitment.
Marriage used to be a religious/social contract between a man and woman. Men would provide resources, work to support the family, and have access to an abundance of sex. Women would raise the children and create an ideal environment for raising said children in the household, while having the loyalty and commitment of a man.
In modern times, women no longer need men’s financial support to live comfortably. They go to university, have well paying jobs, and can completely support themselves often times better then men can support their own selves. The old social contract archetypes are almost discouraged by feminism and the mainstream media.
So what do men get from marriage:
1) sex? You can have causal partners/plates or go on tinder and other OLD apps within a hookup culture. Go check out the likes of r/ dead bedrooms.
2) Kids? You can have kids outside of marriage without being social ostracized like in years past - PLUS, you won’t face the threat of alimony and having half of your assets gutted in a divorce if having children is what you REALLY want. Remember: 50% DIVORCE RATE - 70% OF WHICH ARE FILED BY WOMEN.
3) Companionship? Male friends or a dog - there is a level of empathy and understanding you get from male friends that you simply cannot get from a female partner... arguably why a lot of friendships last longer than relationships.
With only downsides and the odds against you regarding the court system, marriage has become obsolete for men where they have everything to lose and little to gain considering the modern day roles of men and women.
Why would any man get married in modern time?
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That’s all I’m saying. If a women truly cared about you and loved you, why do you have to legally sign a contract through the state?
Have a ceremony, say your married, but don’t make it legal. There’s zero benefit for men.
Some men’s lives are destroyed due to crippling finances from divorce.
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Because it is declining does it mean it’s not the norm.
Gas powered cars are declining with introduction of electric... doesn’t mean gas powered isn’t the norm.
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Hypergamy. Women generally date up... that is another reason why marriage rates are declining because they are more educated and make more money but they will never date down.
Look around in all aspects of life, women generally (note, generally) try to marry someone of high status and income. Look at the married couples around you.
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Most women marry a man of higher income. That is why they get alimony. What are the occupations of couples around you?
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You can have female companionship and family without a legally binding marriage contract.
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If a woman truly loved you why would she need a marriage license - a legally binding contract - to make it official?
You think living your lives together and enjoying each other time would be enough.
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The bulk of marriages end in divorce. You can hold it as ideal all you want.. doesn’t mean when things go south that a mans life isnt destroyed.
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You sure that isn’t just a result of people not getting married anymore so there are less marriages to ACTUALLY divorce?
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What are you talking about? Marriage isn’t “religious” or “spiritual” anymore. People get married who aren’t even in the faith and they do.
That stopped once the state got involved years ago.
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Apparently you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_civil_marriage_in_the_United_States
1913 was the first time - 1929 for all states. Which is still relatively mordern in terms of greater history. Nice try though.
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Thanks for the insight Socrates
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No. The state has not always been involved.
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You’re proving the point that women only wants to be brides and not wives. It’s all about the princess party and showing off to family and friends that you got the ring.. not want relationship it self means.
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It makes them attractive because if something goes sour it’s in their favor. It benefits THEM.
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I was simply addressing your point. Men have a lot lose if a marriage goes bad. If you’re in a relationship but not married and it goes bad, what do women lose? Nothing.
Marriage is simply a gun to the back of a mans head.
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You are in a good situation. But I think it’s safe to say your are an outlier compared to what is most common place.
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Tbh, you sound like a women who is belittling anyone that dare speak out against marriage.
If anything, I’m just trying to raise awareness to what can and what does happen if marriage goes bad.
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See how there is no logical argument against not getting married? There only argument is “feels” related and then they resort to personal attacks.
Completely agree.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/acquainted-the-night/201906/divorce-is-risk-factor-suicide-especially-men%3famp
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I think you are equating incels to men who choose to be single/date around. They’re not the same.
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You’re assuming marriage is a precursor to sex.
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Regardless, you’re saying “falling in love” and “getting married” is some kind of massive privilege for the man. Get off your pedestal.
Advocating against marriage ≠ incel
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What do you mean by similar economic situation?
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It definitely is not what it used to be. If you’re a man marrying in modern time it is out of ignorance to what is unfolding around you.
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All about the princess party.
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Why have a legally binding marriage? Why not have a ceremony, a party, but not do it through the state?
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What’s the difference of having a party and saying you’re getting married VS actually getting married through the state, having a party?
It’s the EXACT same thing except one involves a contract that can potentially ruin your life.
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I never said I was forced? Simply looking at marriage objectively
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They hate to see it! Only argument they have is “well if you really loved her then you would marry her”... like no? If she really loved me we wouldn’t need to get married.
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