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June 12, 2017

As many of you know last April, the chief strategist behind The_Donald CisWhiteMalestrom was doxxed. However most don't know why or how it happened. So have a seat on papa GaylubeOil's thick muscular quads and let him tell you a story.

The reason The_Donald became the largest Trump community on the internet is because it utilized a Red Pill publicity strategy and was run by Red Pill Endorsed Contributors. The basic premise is that the left is far more numerous on Reddit and has more time to bitch about stupid shit. So the fastest way to grow a community is to write something deliberately provocative and make sure lefties hear about it. Then when lefties show up to virtue signal about your thought crimes, provoke them further by baning them and telling them to choke on your semen. Pretty soon lefties will tell other lefties about the injustice creating a positive feedback loop of publicity. Eventually Righties will hear about it and join your community.

This strategy worked really well and The_Donald subsequently grew so big that it began to challenge the Left's monopoly on political discourse on Reddit. The first strike was when The_Donald called out r news and r Politics for censoring blood drive information after the Orlando shooting. While the Left loves claiming moral superiority there is nothing moral about censoring blood drive information after one of the largest terrorist attacks in American history. This was such a blow to the narrative that the admins had no choice but to shut down the entire discussion and manually remove threads themselves.

However the admin's heavy handed tactics allowed CisWhiteMalestrom to create an Us vs Them dynamic between his userbase and the Admins further driving The_Donalds growth. The admins had no choice but to dethrone an effective leader and hope for someone less aggressive. CisWhiteMalestrom personal information was leaked to SJWs who immediately began placing threatening phone calls to his entire family including his pregnant sister.

The admins can and do read your private messages, modify your comments and collude with their SJW allies to create leadership transitions. In fact they recently tried this with the Red Pill but were unsuccessful.

For this reason we are building a secure communication platform who's servers will not be housed in SJW Cuck Shacks. Communication and the exchange of ideas is the basis for all power, which is why we can no longer afford to allow Aids Skrillex and Trigglypuff to rifle through your personal messages. Our goal is to create a secure platform that will allow our members to form private groups and eventually coordinate in person meetups.

Features Include:

  • iPhone and Android chat apps.
  • Online browser chat interface.
  • Private groups similar to facebook but with privacy and anonymity as the default.
  • Specialized features for vetting members and preventing infiltration.

In order to accomplish our objectives we either need a team of Alpha programers to volunteer their time and talents or half a Bitcoin to buy the necessary scripts.

Send programer volunteer inquiries to: [email protected]

Send Bitcoin donations to: 1NeqAW41zBf1ujMzNMAZVuhRmkpB8CQL2X

Thanks for your help. May your erections be strong. May your list of accomplishments be long. May you have ample opportunity to get the friction on.

Edit: Since Red Pill men are probably some of the least altruistic people on earth and arn't the best donators. I'm launching a Hercules Tanktop Fundraiser to upgrade our community infrastructure.

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Title The Red Pill App
Author GayLubeOil
Upvotes 1047
Comments 398
Date 12 June 2017 07:12 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]Modredpillschool[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (17 children) | Copy

Communication and the exchange of ideas is the basis for all power, which is why we can no longer afford to allow Aids Skrillex and Trigglypuff to rifle through your personal messages.

This is an understatement. Communication is the prerequisite for all power building. There have been very sensitive events over the past few years that have required coordination among the red pill mod team, and nothing has made this reality more clear to me than realizing we actually don't have a freedom to coordinate when the enemy is the one facilitating the conversation. We have had to take our mod conversations off-site for this reason.

Whether you think TRP is serious business or just a geeky web forum, it should still be obvious to everybody who plans to succeed in life to have a plan and platform for communicating effectively and privately.

I've had members contact me worried about potential doxxing, but they were unable to effectively communicate with me because the sensitive information involved would expose them to reddit admin. In the past I've had to direct people to off-site PMing, but ensuring credentials never crossed paths with insecure channels has been a bit of a nightmare.

I believe that building tools like this is important to laying a foundation for future success. If you are so inclined to join our efforts, thank you. If not, I recommend you begin your own efforts, and use the Building Power flair to see it through.

[–]randarrow77 points78 points  (8 children) | Copy

  1. I'm not installing any unusual app on my phone. This is for security and cost reasons. Same reason I am not installing the reddit or Facebook app.

  2. I am a programmer, an administrator, and at times an app developer, I'll tell you it's not worth it. If,, the IRC channel, and every blogosphere on the planet are not enough, set up an XMPP server; no app development required just server hosting. Will be 100 times better than any custom app.

  3. I'm never meeting yall in person. Security, reputation, and cost reasons. All pure social network meet ups I've ever been to were pretty depressing. Without a theme they end up weird and pointless.

  4. Lone men change the world all the time, but they also pay the price for it. You want camaraderie? Start taking a risk to set up men only clubs again. Main thing I need in my social groups is men to stand up to people's bull shit. I'm not kidding, dealing with one group where they refuse to ostracize a guy because he is best friends with a female organizer, even though he beat up a woman AT AN EVENT, people have permanent scars from his jokes, and has had police called on him. But, I am being ostracized by her because I refuse to be around him and I refuse to put up with her devisive, codependent behavior. The group (parts I care about) are standing by me, but is wild to deal with. Too many guys are scared to deal with it because their girl friends will not stand up to her. These things happen in every social group.

You want some sort of red pill social progress? Join a MRA group. You want some sort of men only Network? Join MGTOW. You want to make progress in your own life? Stand up to the hen network bull shit and stand by the people important to you.

[–]Future_Alpha9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lone men change the world all the time, but they also pay the price for it. You want camaraderie? Start taking a risk to set up men only clubs again. Main thing I need in my social groups is men to stand up to people's bull shit. I'm not kidding, dealing with one group where they refuse to ostracize a guy because he is best friends with a female organizer, even though he beat up a woman AT AN EVENT, people have permanent scars from his jokes, and has had police called on him. But, I am being ostracized by her because I refuse to be around him and I refuse to put up with her devisive, codependent behavior. The group (parts I care about) are standing by me, but is wild to deal with. Too many guys are scared to deal with it because their girl friends will not stand up to her. These things happen in every social group.

I agree that men need to set up 'men only' communities. This is similar to what Jack Donovan suggests. Men could set up male only powerlifting gyms, where cursing, slamming weights and walking shirtless is allowed.

They can set up male only hunting, philosophy, etc groups.

I was forced to take a bullshit sociology class in college to get my degree. TRP armed me well to recognize the professors bullshit and how to fight it. And I did. At the end of it, I had people approaching me saying that they agreed but were afraid to voice their opinions because of fear of retribution from the prof.

You want social change? Be an example to follow. Grow huge clanking balls the size of Texas and stand up to people's lefty bullshit and many people will be motivated to do that too

[–]RedPillFreedom0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

TRP armed me well to recognize the professors bullshit and how to fight it. And I did. At the end of it, I had people approaching me saying that they agreed but were afraid to voice their opinions because of fear of retribution from the prof.

I had the same exact situation occur to me in college where the Prof unnecessarily went after me. I went there did everything no complaints no noise but thought I was a good target. I simply waited for class to end. After she finished, I went up spoke with class regarding her "issue". No one had any issue but to not lose her 'position of power'. Said it's unnecessary and we can speak in private. But, in private she was quick to agree and act like nothing happened.

One, this over a year ago. It was actually one of the first moments where I used TRP to break out of my auto blue pill autopilot conditioning. Even after hearing, reading and seeing it. My reason to be RP was never as strong as my commitment to the blue pill.

Two, the good that came from it was over half the class texted me wow, "idk why she's such a bitch" or "wow, I heard you stood up", or "wow, you actually said something". Most of the texts were just amazed that someone stopped the cycle of abuse.

Three, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I was starting to receive deductions in my points. For things, I should have received a B worst case C. I didn't know till end of my semester I had failed. Congrats, your boy lost his fucking 'scholarship'. The other one was commit to this corrupt system and just finish 3 courses I had left. But, 'guess who' was the only teacher teaching those 3 so I never ended finishing them.

When shit happens in life, it's a fork in the road. That's where you must commit to a path. I was upset how things ended up because the way I was raised would dictate that 'that was wrong'. But, I know better now. What occurred after is what allowed me to get started towards my true path. Your mission is the only reason you need. You give your life purpose and meaning.

As I keep heading along the path of gaining true power, I'll be able to protect myself and others around me. Build your true power and you'll become bulletproof.

[–]Future_Alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was starting to receive deductions in my points. For things, I should have received a B worst case C. I didn't know till end of my semester I had failed. Congrats, your boy lost his fucking 'scholarship'. The other one was commit to this corrupt system and just finish 3 courses I had left. But, 'guess who' was the only teacher teaching those 3 so I never ended finishing them.

That is why I was always trying to be careful. I would never say anything confrontational or to try to piss them off intentionally. Instead I pretended like I was legitmately curious and asking a question where I hid a shiv/made people think about the ridculousness of what the prof was saying. For example she was talking about how we should redistribute wealth from rich people to poor people. To me that sounded like Communism, so I asked her: "Sorry professor, I am just trying to understand/sum up for myself what you are saying. Are you saying that 'from each according to ability and to each according to their need?' would you agree with that statement?" (Look up the statement, it is from the communist manifesto) and she did.

Or when she was talking that we should remember women shot at some school 40 years ago, I asked her sounding curious, "statistics show that more men die every year from gun related violence than woman. shouldn't we be talking about men here too?'

Stuff like that. It makes you sound curious and she really has no formal reason to punish you. You were just asking a question as a student does.

[–]TunedtoPerfection5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

You know you can be the one that stands up. Just understand when you first initate changes the group will splinter into 2 parts, those that will hate you for it and those who secretly cheer you on but are publicly indifferent to the change. Always happens, you have to break through that initial wall to rally support behind you.

Blue pill men are bitches I agree but that last point just sound like an excuse, I know I use to make them.

As to your other points, remember this if it is harder then just downloading something and log in, most the current red pill sub base probably won't do it. If that is a good or bad thing is left to be decided by the reader.

[–]randarrow0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Sorry, which last point?

Stand up to the hen network bull shit and stand by the people important to you.

Doesn't sound very BP to me.

The group is splitting into like five pieces: the couples, the bachealors/single dads, the lake crew, the play girls, and what I'm calling the suicide squad (with the destructive people). Is interesting to watch. I'm mainly in the bachealors/single dad's group, and on good terms with the others except for suicide squad.

The decision to ostracise the violent guy was originally a group decision, so they all get it; even if the suicide squad people changed their minds. I spend a lot of times thinking about boundaries lately.

[–]JohnnyDildonics0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

remember, you are the one that must enforce those boundaries like a Texas Border Patrol jeep.

[–]Lo-G1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here's a red pill for you:

Male only social networks for discussing the truth in a noncensored manner while maintaining social hierarchy and privacy already exist. They're called freemasons. In earlier times there were clubs and religious organizations too, but they were not private enough and have either stopped existing, or grown corrupt.

[–]NiceIce0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Unfortunately freemasons are very religious and I am not, so that rules them out for me.

[–][deleted] 154 points155 points  (6 children) | Copy

The feedback loop works, I found this subreddit from a SJW complaining about it.

[–]stdrp70 points71 points  (1 child) | Copy

Same. I was browsing the front page not logged in and noticed a thread in XX complaining about the red pill misogynists. Reading their complaints about these guys made me realize the people they were taking about is group who sees things the same way I do. It was a real eye opener and I'm grateful to that thread for making me aware of this community.

[–]aanarchist12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

All they do is make the strong stronger and the weak weaker

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. Some blue haired jackass was ranting to an orbiter about how awful it was that there was a subreddit out there where people were allowed to have ideas that she didnt agree with.

Looked it up later that week, but I couldnt bring myself to swallow at the time.

[–]soyDonEladio220 points221 points  (22 children) | Copy

Smaller community, higher quality posts. I'm in.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (12 children) | Copy

No shit, this sub has really gone to shit in recent years. There's still some quality content here and there, but there's just too many dumb fucks spouting off their shitty opinions everywhere.

EDIT: I've contributed plenty to this sub over the years, but not on this account. I make new accounts every few months to prevent too much personal information building up.

[–]Modredpillschool57 points58 points  (7 children) | Copy

Let's see, what has /u/timeislimited88 submitted to /r/theredpill? Nothing?

You know what turns a forum to shit? People like you bitching but doing fuck all to fix it.

[–]adolfsbff24 points25 points  (3 children) | Copy

You don't think the rules you guys have imposed in this sub have at least contributed to the deterioration of the content? I've had 3 accounts banned from this sub for being "politically incorrect" or "racisss" even though I've been a part of this sub before we had like 50,000 subs. How do you ban someone for being "racisss" while having Chateau Heartiste in the sidebar nigga? Have you read that blog?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Recently, I was traveling a border area recently freed from Taliban insurgency. While there, happened to sit down for tea with the locals who told me quite sternly how much they resented the government police and military for constant suspicion, shown by the mandatory checkpoints for ID and weapons.

It astonished me that they would begrudge the government for just this much when they were actively being liberated from a hostile terrorist insurgency.

[–]adolfsbff0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's no such thing as terrorists, it's a made up threat, but it works because Americans and the United States armed forces are scared of their own shadows.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

CH is the realest talk on intetrwebs.

Thank you for being triggered by it as I bet somebody here became curious enough to browse

[–]TB3o30 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

A lot of great movie critics have never written a screenplay in their life

[–]Modredpillschool25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

Movie critics don't participate in creating the movie.

[–]aanarchist5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even had a few people become enosed contributers and they're as blue pill as they come, but with great frame.

[–]red-arctic-tern0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

In a local Red Pill community I could do stuff instead of writing to Reddit.

[–]soyDonEladio2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

I've dreamed of Gentleman's Clubs. One for each major city. A place where we could chill discuss philosophy and contemplate on taking over the world (Business agreements, Entrepreneurial endeavors and other things).

We would take young men (Young here means blue not necessarily age) and have them as our apprentice. They would serve under us as waiters, secretary and mow our lawns until they would learn from us what it means to be a man. Just like the father they never had. Then they would have been through this passage ritual an be one of us.

But I don't know how plausible could this idea be in reality. Please elaborate on your thoughts on this.

[–]NikoMyshkin1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Gentleman's Clubs

Just one example of Feminism's double standards is how they respond to single-sex spaces. If it's for women then it's a vital, moral, necessary safe space to plan and organise and fight back against muh misogyny and muh patriarchy.

If it's for men, however, then it's obviously to promote misogyny and patriarchy.

No wonder they are agetting less popular every day.

[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

double standards

This will always be a card in the deck for those not on top of the mountain, it is part of the process. The ones/groups that usually irate others the most are "intentional subordinates". These are people who willfully refuse to learn or take action in areas necessary to become superiors, yet want all the 'respect' & 'power' that comes along with the lead position.

If it isn't feminism, x-minority-matters, etc.. , it will be something else. You can't 'teach' this group anything. You can't educate them, because they have no intention to learn. They are fucking children. Treat them accordingly.

[–]NikoMyshkin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can't educate them, because they have no intention to learn.

I guess this is why one of the laws of power is to win through action - never through argument.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou points points [recovered] | Copy

contemplate on taking over the world

Rich men already do this on the golf course.

[–]red-arctic-tern0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Find people for manly hobbies and to go out with to pick up girls.

  2. Discuss topics that you can't talk about with other friends: pick-up, politics, finance. The difference to this subreddit is that in a local group one can talk about local bars and politics and personal finance.

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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon142 points143 points  (28 children) | Copy

Governments banning us and shit

There are moves afoot to ban "hate" sites.

Hate includes anything promoting "misogyny".

Misogyny includes "telling the truth about the nature of women".

[–]RedPillFusion40 points41 points  (14 children) | Copy

governments banning us and shit

Not only has it already happened, it's happening right before our eyes to our (American) neighbors.

Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist and professor at University of Toronto, is fighting the good fight.

Parliament is attempting, through bill c-16, to create and enforce compelled speech. This will force Human A to address Human B by Human B's desired pronoun.

Let that set in for a minute.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon45 points46 points  (4 children) | Copy

Parliament is attempting, through bill c-16, to create and enforce compelled speech. This will force Human A to address Human B by Human B's desired pronoun.

Awesome! My preferred pronoun is Lord.

It's only through a weird accident of genetics that I was born a cis while male peasant. Deep in my heart, I FEEL that I am a lord. Genetically I am the same as a lord. Lordship is just a social construct.

Call me lord or I'm having you arrested. Do it now.

[–]RedPillFusion8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Clearly you're just a fucking white male

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon40 points41 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's LORD fucking white male to you.

[–]rmbarnes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm going for 'Lord emperor of the vagina'.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

it's happening right before our eyes to our (American) neighbors.

Its happening in the USA, too. There are already a number of schools allowing the kids to choose a pronoun to be called.

The University of Michigan has implemented a “designated pronoun” policy to allow students to choose the way they want their professors to refer to them in class.

Just one of many references.

[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

it's happening right before our eyes to our (American) neighbors

and in the UK. and everyone seems to think it is a good thing! muh terrorism...

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[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

the PM activated an antiporn law literally from the 1940s. no joke. men can ejaculate but women can't. no joke.

worse, she has in mind laws even more draconian than the IPA which already is the most invasive snooping law anywhere in the world. her reasoning is 'terrorism', depsite the fact (fact) that none of these extra violations of privacy she's proposing to pass in to law would have even remotely had the chance to stop the last three terror attacks on UK soil.

she is a mini hitler

[–]TunedtoPerfection0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If this was real I would never have a bad day. Oh the shit I could force sjw's to say.

[–]RedPillFusion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now's your chance. It was signed into law yesterday.

[–]WeRAllOne15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus christ it really has gotten to this point, hasnt it? This is so orwellian its beyond the premise of being a joke.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

I love how feminism is viewed as "good" and mesogynism as "bad." WTF?

[–]tallwheel15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

LOL. "Mesogynism". First I've heard such a term.

[–]nombre12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


meso means middle or intermediate, so... there's that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Same here man. But It got to the point.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most self-proscribed feminists vocally claim that it means the same as egalitarianism. It does not. It's almost literally translatable to female-ism. Which is specifically nothing to do with equality.

When faced with that fact, most of them revert to chimpanzee-like behavior.

[–]1ozaku71 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Only because women are allowed into the government and beta males within the government empowering their crap.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Ultimately it's the voters that are responsible.

[–]1ozaku73 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Democracy is total shit. You are electing a person, not the shit that is decided.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Democracy would work if people said "You did this shit last time, I'm not voting for you again".

Sadly people vote the same regardless of what happened last time.

[–]Desadarius5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because little to no one has a mind of their own. Most flock to the masses. We can even see that here on TRP.

[–]jdgalt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because the next ballot never has a candidate you can count on (1) not to do the same shit and (2) not to do worse shit of his own.

[–]nombre12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

By definition, the fact that you're electing a person, and not voting on the issues makes it a republic, not a democracy. The problem ultimately remains the same. Few people are willing to consider things outside of their own limited personal experience, and make poorly informed, irrational decisions.

Put more eloquently: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Elmer T. Peterson (9 December 1951)

[–]JackGetsIt11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm thinking that this project is our best bet right now...

[–]oddisay0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Check out Urbit as well.

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So I watched the video but still a bit confused. What are the advantages of being your own server? Also, it seems to me that no matter how good the UI gets people just won't have the technical knowledge to use this? I like the idea but it seems like it would only catch on really really slowly. Are there any other videos out there explaining this project better?

[–]oddisay0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are but they're not released to the public yet. Keep watching. Meanwhile, read the articles, blogs, or white paper. I just discovered the project myself maybe 4 months ago. It's a rabbit hole once you see its potential. Cheers.

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[–]bunny_throwaway44 points45 points  (5 children) | Copy

what is the difference between this secure platform compared to WHy don't we just exapnd to have the things you are looking for?

[–]Modredpillschool32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

WHy don't we just exapnd to have the things you are looking for?

These features will be added to

[–]RPStone53 points54 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wouldn't it be better to build a web based version first with a public api? Then build ios/android apps off of the api?

[–]Modredpillschool35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is the order it will be added, yes.

[–]twenty7lies4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This idea doesn't need to be anymore encrypted than already is to prevent doxxing. Is using a cms or is it custom built? The key is to stop making 100% of everything public. Make people work for a membership that can easily be taken away if they don't play by the rules.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger112 points113 points  (34 children) | Copy

You should post this more publicly. Reworded, obviously. I'd be willing to bet that the Reddit administration and 9/10ths of the right-thinking, liberal-minded Reddit users would pay good money to get The Red Pill off of Reddit.

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[–]7a7p points points [recovered] | Copy

This sub literally changed the way I operate my life. We should definitely not understate the importance in maintaining the ability for such a high rate of exposure. For example, I was a liberal blue Hillary voting borderline SJW until I followed some reddit drama over this way to gawk at all of you "evil hate spewing racist misogynists". I still remember the feeling I got as I started to realize that this sub was merely a tool to help me better myself as a man...and that fact was why "they" hated it.

I've grown a lot since then and I owe it all to finding this sub.

[–]ScratchinCommander points points [recovered] | Copy

Glad you left the dark side and found some light

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rather, welcome to the "dark side" of reddit.

[–]Cunt_Robber60 points61 points  (24 children) | Copy

Believe it or not, I have a hard time understanding why in Brodin's name people at large and even the Reddit admins (?) are so turned against this sub. I swallowed, went through the anger phase, tested the theories, started self-improvement and chasing success, and... nothing bad happened. I told one friend about this sub and the rest I kept to myself. I'm on great terms and working side by side with the women who make up more than half my workplace. I don't think women are evil, I'm just aware of the pitfalls, AS EVERY MAN SHOULD BE. Sure, maybe it's hard for a regular person to understand the depth of women's hypergamy but to be against people engaging in discussion about masculinity and self-improvement? If you haven't noticed, most of the ask trp comments boil down to giving the OP advise on how to improve himself. We can't change women, ultimately we can only strive to understand them and change ourselves. This sub is bigger than sexual strategy, it's a place for everything masculine that society decided it needed to shame.

If the admins take this site down, it will only prove that TRP is true. My only regret at the moment is that I do not have any CS skills, otherwise I would love to be of some help to rebuild this great place of wisdom and truth.

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[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think a possible 3) is just plain fear & old fashioned reddit karma whoring.

Accusations of misogyny are so loaded these days that even the most alpha guys that Ive ever met would rather just fold and say whatever the feminists want to hear than to deal with their lives being torn to shreds, evidence of actual wrongdoing be damned.

I feel like we forget that here because its hard not to laugh at SJWs screaming misogyny when you understand whats actually going on, but that word still carries a lot of power in real life these days.

[–]youkickmyd0g0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

SJWs can suck it. They're toothless offline. I live in SF and am short (but fit) so I'm not pulling shit out of my ass, if they're on your case making a scene other people will not side with them. If your employer will fire you for doxxing, get a new employer... employ yourself maybe.

[–]Cunt_Robber8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

1.) is a very valid point! I found some of the people on MGTOW to be rather unstable (i consider being RP also "going my own way" but if you want to talk mysogyny that sub outdoes TRP by magnitudes - interestingly, theyre the ones bashing TRP for being a bunch of pussy worshippers) and I imagine some guys just use this site to stroke their fragile egos.

And 2.) is what I love about being a man. The testosterone, the anger and focus, the drive. Tapping into that reserve of power lets me take action and do shit.

At this point they can tank this sub. Ive already absorbed the lessons, the laws of power, the whole unspoken language of dating and of life. I dont even feel bad for other guys, cause the more "asleep" other guys are, the easier it is for me. Sorry, my sociopathy is showing.

[–]Tseestarlord1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fairly new to TRP, absorbing this world I thought didn't exist. To be specific I'm looking for order, can you point me to the start of TRP and where It can be followed chronologically? Will be appreciated.

[–]Cunt_Robber1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey man. There is no "start." Just use TRP as a tool to gain awareness of how the world works and what you could improve on. Check out the sidebar material on the specific subject and start applying it in real life. For example, is your body as aesthetically pleasing as you'd like it to be? If not, check out the fitness subreddit, pick an exercise program, and start watching what you eat.

The key is taking action. You can read everything twice in here but it won't help you if you dont get up your ass and actually do something. Take it one step at a time but get used to the idea that you will have to put serious work into what you do.

[–]bluedrygrass-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

their over the top use of "Chad" and "Cuck" that they are neck beards with cuckold fetishes.

Nobody who really has cuckhold tendencies would ever use that term. Cucks hate that word with a passion. It's like they know better than anyone else how sick those desires are, and how miserable they made them, so even hearing the term "cuck" makes them rage.

Notice how every time the term is used, a circlejerk starts where a bunch of people claim "it doesn't even mean anything", or try to mud the waters claiming "cuck" means someone who has been cheated on.

The term cuck is being thrown around too much, has been inflationized and is often used out of contest like a generic insult, that it isn't. It shouldn't be used as much, and many that use that term don't even know what it means and are just regurgitating something they've heard trying to sound badass or edgy.

But still, it's often the perfect description for many left-leaning people. It catches the essence, the self-destruction tendencies.

[–]TheStumblingWolf18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because people don't like looking at their true selves, and things like red pill force them to do so by stating things that are opposite of their beliefs. It's easier to just lash out and be a bitch like always. True courage is being unafraid to look at yourself, like many red pillers are required to do to progress in any real sense.

[–]AncientScrolls2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly first step to success is admit that you arent shit. People sometimes let their ego get on their way to self-improvement they dont want to believe they arent the most awesome skilled person on planet earth. When they find out they arent the hot shit they though they were they just get in a never ending hate circle.

I´m the opposite. I always like to think that I´m in the 2nd place and that I´m a piece of shit, even when I´m having more success than those around me. This way I will always keep myself focused on improving and learning more. The moment you think you won the race is the moment your opponent will steal your place. Never think you won the game even when you already won.

[–]Cunt_Robber0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree. But then Im chuckling to myself because it reflects so horribly on Western society. Not that the Eastern is any better, but if we're going to advance, let's put the right foot forward. The only issue disagreed upon (especially up there in Sweden) is that gynocentrism should not be how we lead.

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[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy


I can tell just from a single still photo that the redhead bitch is trouble. You can see death seeping out of her eyes with that creepy blank expression

[–]bluedrygrass4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everyone in that pic is a potential serial killer

[–]Cunt_Robber1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ill upvote for your second point, because I agree with you that the fucked up victim mentality of the "opressed" is bringing everyone down, but the first comment... Really? Ad hominem's a pretty weak argument and nobody buys into insults. Stick to the facts man

[–]Leviticus5910 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well, that's all true. Reason the left is so ferociously against TRP is that they live in a non-reality based universe, and TRP directly threatens their carefully constructed hologram.

[–]Cunt_Robber9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Conservatives go against some of my core principles, too much "you have to fit this mold" kind of mentality. TRP, applied to women and self-improvement, are the only things I lean right for. But I agree the left has gone too far in certain respects, and in time we will see some of them fall. Even radical feminism seems to be on the decline, as far as Ive noticed in the last year. The peak seems to have come and gone in the early 2010s. Maybe it's just the calm between waves but girls Ive met seem more feminine and not so much set against white men. At least face to face.

If TRP is misunderstood, it's probably because it comes on too hard and honest and we've become used to soft and sugar-coated. It seems dumb on the mainstream's part to censor something like this, but I can see how they would see it as a threat. I just hope the app will be available on the iOS app store...

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Conservatives go against some of my core principles, too much "you have to fit this mold" kind of mentality.

More specifically, the church has practically participated in demonizing men in the public mind almost as much as the feminazis. Me and a lot of other men nowadays couldnt give fewer fucks about whether gay people are allowed to marry or firearms being easily accessible, but the fact that men cant raise a family without running the risk of getting cleaned out financially is a really big deal because it actually impacts our lives in a major way

[–]Cunt_Robber7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Could not have said it better. The goddamn truth.

[–]AnonymousAndLovinIt3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're making out this sub to be far more benign than it actually is. If I didn't know anything about TRP I would've thought you were talking about a furry kitten.

[–]bluedrygrass0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Believe it or not, I have a hard time understanding why in Brodin's name people at large and even the Reddit admins (?) are so turned against this sub.

Those people hate the truth. It burns them, it burns their skin like holy water thrown on a vampire.

They feed on wrongness and lies. Their only consolation in life is to know there are other people as sick and twisted and miserable as them. The more, the better. The simple concept of people valuing something else, like bettering yourself, improving your life and those of others, search for the truth in all things, think with your mind, etc., sets them in agonizing anger.

[–]tino125 points points [recovered] | Copy

I have nothing against GLO or creating another place to discuss RP ideas but I'd caution against sending money to a random stranger via the internet, no matter how good his intentions seem. I've seen other forums burned in similar situations.

I'd also strongly dissuade any conflating of TRP with the autists at T_D. We are an apolitical sub focused on sexual strategy and self improvement for men, not some self-fellating echo chamber.

[–]Modredpillschool5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

GLO has been coordinating with me on this and I trust him. Remember, this isn't just without proof, we've got a functioning product we've invested years of work into:

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

It becomes political when subs like TRP are threatened with censorship .

I'm not trying to stir the pot. TRP members can hold whatever political view they'd like. But you are lying to yourself if you don't think TRP principles and free speech are an enemy to the marxist/post-modernsits who congregate on the left. Be wary

[–]ForgingFakes points points [recovered] | Copy

Can I be a non Trump supporter and still be a part of the Red Pill?

Kinda feel like a lot of the_donald people are biased as fuck and incapable of carrying intelligent conversations.

It's impossible to read a post without seeing the word "cuck" or "pepe" in the first two sentences. Not really my style. Still, glad to see more content here

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well. I am German and I don't give a fuck about US-politics, because I cannot change them, even if I wanted. So there is that.

Actually I don't give a fuck about politics at all, since I believe they are just there to give people the illusion that going and making a cross somewhere every couple of years, actually changes anything, and to make them believe they possess power, as well as give them strawmen to blame for the whole fuckup that their life and that of those around them is.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Modern politics is kleptocracy within the confines of sentiment analysis software results.

[–]TYMRHI points points [recovered] | Copy

It's an echo chamber where dissent is not allowed. This merging of communities is a bad thing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian20 points21 points  (6 children) | Copy

Its not a merging of communities and TD is an echo chamber on purpose. Its a platform for pro Trump, not for political discussion.

[–]plenkton8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

TD is an echo chamber on purpose

The notion that all forums are meant for discussion is wrong. The reason that there is no popular Trump discussion reddit is because popular political thought is devoid of principle and theory- and thus no discussion asides from "I want this, I don't want that." is possible.

[–]MWcrazyhorse21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am really surprised. Isn't this the red pill? There's not just on T_D, which in its defense is at war with censoring mods and ShareBlue bots and shills. So naturaly it has to ban dissent or it would be shilled into non existance. If you want to debate the Centipedes you go to AskThe_Donald. They're open to discussion on any topic you might happen to disagree with them/ Trump on.

[–]Auphor_Phaksache0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As a lefty I went to T_D for his political moves and the governmental effect they would have. I'd like a sources I can reference in a consolidated area. Which is exactly what Reddit does. I end up reverse fact checking on Pol just to make sure I haven't spoken too soon. Which is done too much by too many already, but it's still hard to find information on presidential movements before it's already in a heavily biased article.

[–]EliQuince points points [recovered] | Copy

"Let's practice censorship, the American way"

Making an echo chamber on purpose and effectively censoring yourself to prop up a shitty reality TV star? You're all fucking delusional and it makes me sick.

[–]Justino12 points points [recovered] | Copy

Aren't all the political subreddits that way? TD can go overboard, but so can politics, world news, marchagainsttrump, etc.

[–]TYMRHI points points [recovered] | Copy

Yes, and they're all shit political subreddits for that fact.

The only political ones worth frequenting are the ones that allow discussion.

[–]loknarash points points [recovered] | Copy

Alt-right here. Have at thee.

[–]StraightGlueWater68 points69 points  (19 children) | Copy

Been around 4 years, been voting Democrat for as many years.

You can internalize the main lessons of TRP and still have your own political views.

[–]DeadBabyCorpse11 points12 points  (13 children) | Copy

Men who vote Democrat in America are generally self loathing, emasculated, estrogen filled, degenerate, castrated, sterilized cuckolded sissies.

Doesn't really vibe with the core tenets of TRP, but whatever works for you I guess

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[–]DeadBabyCorpse2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

LMFAO on a scale from 10-10 how triggered are you?

[–]twxxx0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

people say this but it's not true. there are big policy differences between the two parties. health care, taxes, gun regulations, divorce and family law. these are all party line issues.

[–]beachbbqlover1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Okay, so I'm pro-single-payer health care (I'm Canadian and think the Japanese have it right), believe in closing all of the loopholes on taxes and increasing taxes on dividends, I'm pro-firearms but believe in mandatory safety training, and believe marriage is a bad contract. I also think that abortion before about 3-4months is acceptable and not after - demarcating the difference because of the "quickening" when you start getting brain activity.

So which party meets all of my political views?

[–]twxxx0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

| The two parties are essentially the same policy

| ... So which party meets all of my political views?

You're contradicting yourself.

Each of your items has a party that is more aligned with your ideal policy than the other. Politics is about compromise regardless if your aligned with a party or not. And who you end up voting for is based on what you prioritize.

Saying both parties is the same doesnt make sense. Gun rights being a big glaring example that completely tears apart that argument.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not from the US. These arguments are honestly pretty small points of contention, as heated as you might get over them.

[–]lava_throw-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Easy on the generalisations. Real life isn't 4chan

[–]twxxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

you havent internalized them.

[–]UnknownPleasures82 points points [recovered] | Copy

Stop encouraging parasitism, faggot.

[–]brainsack points points [recovered] | Copy

I'm disgusted by the fact that a sub that promotes fitness, disciple, the value of earning your own way, and self respect, would simultaneously endorse the man in office who has none of those qualities.

The message here at TRP is good but there is clearly something wrong when those ideals are associated with t_d.

[–]RedPillFusion points points [recovered] | Copy

Bear in mind, this sub exclusively endorses ideas that are "red pill" as defined in the sidebar. Red pill means truths wherever they can be found. I didn't read this post as a political endorsement of DJT, but one in which a strategy and narrative were presented in pursuit of a goal aligned with endorsing DJT. In other words, yes we can infer from this post that some of our mods endorse or support DJT, but that is not the point of the post nor the implied rhetoric.

[–]brainsack points points [recovered] | Copy

I want to believe that, but the use of language in the post and it's tone is one that has grown common directly from t_d. I'm all for privacy, but is this really for the creation of a forum for ideas and free thought or just an excuse to create a safe space.

[–]max_peenor points points [recovered] | Copy

Jimmies rustled.

100 up votes. Oh yeah, the brigade is in full force. heh.

Trump and TRP are two completely different things. You have to be pretty weak willed if you can't handle the occasional leak of Trump ideals into a forum. There are plenty of leftists that post here and no one throws a fit over it. Maturity means accepting that not everyone agrees with you, but you can still TALK instead of acting like a child over it.

[–]brainsack points points [recovered] | Copy

This must be why you need your safe space app, because I am just talking. If you interpreted my disdain of t_d and its association with trp with throwing a fit, then maybe it's projection. I'm just happy the mods aren't deleting comments.

[–]max_peenor points points [recovered] | Copy

See. More butthurt.

I'm just happy the mods aren't deleting comments.

Why would they?

[–]brainsack points points [recovered] | Copy

Ok, more projection. If so much of t_d strategy is taken from this sub (see OP) then there would be deletion of posts and banning of opposing thought. But you're quick to take a page out of that book and go straight on the offensive lol. At least some of the other comments in this thread avoided that weak move.

[–]max_peenor points points [recovered] | Copy

If so much of t_d strategy is taken from this sub

Strategy on how to deal with people, not how to run a sub. Those are two different things.

Ok, more projection avoided that weak move.

Hah, lovely. Uh huh. I didn't come to this thread to have a mouth-breather meltdown over Literally Hitler. I don't let anyone trigger me like that.

[–]MWcrazyhorse points points [recovered] | Copy

discipline, the value of earning your own way, and self respect

Interesting. I would have used those exact words to describe Trump.

[–]Pwnk19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're showing you have biases with your generalizations and exaggerations. I'm a reader from the_donald and I want to be a counterexample to your worries.

Personally, I think this sub should try to be inclusive and not really pick a side on Trump. Honestly, I wish most subs on this site would do that.

[–]jdgalt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I want to have both echo chambers and neutral forums. But TRP needs to be an echo chamber, at least as far as the principles in the sidebar go. If someone wants to debate those, they already have PPD.

[–]Zachar1a points points [recovered] | Copy

I got banned from The_Donald for asking a question in a comment.

[–]stolen_loom points points [recovered] | Copy

I got banned for talking shit about him. I don't care. They can ban who they want. I'm more pissed that the SOIAF sub banned me for sexualizing Danaerys.

The whole point of the Trump strategy is that it works whether I like it or not... And even specifically because he's a con man. We have to forget about the fact that he's not actually benefitting us. He's a con man in it for money and glory, lying constantly, probably going to leave things in worse shape. But that's completely irrelavent. His strategy worked for definable reasons. Use that knowledge as you will, but hardly anybody recognizes it for what it is.

[–]throw17453 points points [recovered] | Copy

Learn from him. Don't vote for him.

Couldn't phrase it better. There is a wealth of things to learn from Donald Trump - if you want to see the effectiveness of emotional manipulation in action - he has a singular capacity for it that is profound.

He also strikes me as narcissistic sociopath, who has zero integrity. Should not be trusted AT ALL and is generally contemptible as a human being.

But he is effective and certainly talented, whatever you think of his character.

[–]stonepimpletilists points points [recovered] | Copy

And with all the 'love' for dark triad men people pretend to have, it makes me laugh when guys are still acting like a buttmad beta when you mention him

[–]throw17453 points points [recovered] | Copy

People who are actually dark triad and don't mitigate that, should be avoided like the fucking plague. Self absorbed, vengeful, untrustworthy, lack empathy, manipulative, coercive.

There is another irony in people here decrying dark triad traits in women, yet idolizing or applauding them in men.

There is a to learn about strategy, social and sexual conduct etc. from understanding dark triad behaviour, mindset, and being capable of employing it when neccesary.

But it is not something people should be aspiring or working to become. People who display those traits to excessive and uncontrollable levels are often toxic.

With the exception of perhaps machiavellianism - which is just good fucking sense...

[–]stonepimpletilists points points [recovered] | Copy

There is another irony in people here decrying dark triad traits in women, yet idolizing or applauding them in men.

No irony, it's the fucking point. Tools to achieve your goals, mixed with the cardinal rule of relationships. No one is here for equality, they are here to ensure their 90 some years of life aren't as a plow horse to someone else.

Also, 'should' is a word that needs to be removed from your lexicon. It's a loaded word, that describes my favourite quote from reflections and moral maxims. False virtue, where guys protect their ego, by calling their squeamishness and powerlessness as a virtue.

Fucking ego protection.

Guys absolutely need to adopt a 'take what works' attitude towards sociopathy and macheavellianism. In fact, get really good at it. So if you decide someone is valuable enough to not use the tools on them, then you can pat yourself on the back for how nice a person you are.

Not this bullshit where you couldn't, and pretend it's because you're too nice.

Fucking state of men, afraid of everything that could possibly benefit them.

[–]throw17453 points points [recovered] | Copy

I'll keep should - it is subjective, and based on my own assessment, I am not suggesting it as an objective statement, if that's why you're taking issue.

Guys absolutely need to adopt a 'take what works' attitude towards sociopathy and macheavellianism. In fact, get really good at it. So if you decide someone is valuable enough to not use the tools on them, then you can pat yourself on the back for how nice a person you are.


But there is a significant difference between using something as a tool set - understanding it, taking what works.

And someone simply being that way.

One has the power to employ it - or not - depending on whim.

The other can't, and people like that are often toxic.

[–]stonepimpletilists points points [recovered] | Copy

should is wishing.

Women should not divorce for feelings

Men should be praised for hard work

etc etc.

Should created the MRA, MGTOW, and untold male vagina development. Should isn't about what happens, should is actually the oppositte of action, it's 100% about feelings.

Keep it you want, I'm not here to convince you that you're wasting your time.

[–]MWcrazyhorse points points [recovered] | Copy

They're being brigaded hard by ShareBlue shill armies. They do not have the luxury to double check. They've been effectively censored entirely from the front page. In the middle of a war you cannot question the battle formation.

[–]Zachar1a points points [recovered] | Copy

Double-check what? That I asked a question?

[–]Modredpillschool20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, this has nothing to do with Trump, other than the attack vector being used against them is used against us. "the enemy of my enemy"

[–]MWcrazyhorse points points [recovered] | Copy

"the_donald people are biased as fuck and incapable of carrying intelligent conversations." What a weird thing to say. I challenge you. Go on AskThe_Donald and ask or critique away. Any topic. Do it or never again assume this position.

[–]Rooster1981 points points [recovered] | Copy

Can we just leave politics out of this sub? This place is for self improvement and pickup strategies, we don't need a bunch of autistic neckbeards from T_D ruining another sub.

[–]thevic115 points points [recovered] | Copy

I come here to exchange intelligent advice. I try to give advice based on my experiences and try to pass on what I've learned from my mistakes.

Why the fuck am I reading about Donald Trump or what the "left" is doing? I don't give a shit. I want to look out for my fellow man in the ass backwards game of dating/life.

[–]TYMRHI points points [recovered] | Copy

Red pill has been an appropriated term in the political sphere that has nothing to do with awareness of competing sexual strategies. In the alt-right it now is attached to their ideals; fighting "left sjw libcucks", protectionist & isolationist policies, anti-globalism, etc. etc.

in all this blending and merging they assume we're on the same page as them; that "the red pill" means the same to us as to them.

[–]thevic115 points points [recovered] | Copy

I just don't understand how this got so political. Pointing fingers and trying to label a group of people that show us resistance is lazy and unproductive.

I want posts about learning and applying dammit

[–]Modredpillschool11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

Because some good men who put their necks out to bring you quality TRP content have already been attacked by the blue pill culture.

If you plan to live a red pill productive life, you will be at odds with society at best, and a target at worst.

[–]jdgalt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is why I believe that any "red pill politics" needs to include the anti-SJW cause, and that SJWs Always Lie (by Vox Day) belongs on the sidebar. It gives good advice that works about how to respond when SJW groups try to get your job, home, relationships, or even freedom taken away from you for disagreeing with them.

[–]Rooster19810 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm encouraged to see there's more of us.

[–]Theclouddude points points [recovered] | Copy

Yeah I agree with this statement. I wonder how many of TRP users actually support Trump apart from the few who praise Trump via posts. Make another sub for all your "Alpha Trump" posts.

[–]Rooster1981 points points [recovered] | Copy

Nothing alpha about a bunch of insecure neckbeards with serious lack of analytical thinking skills. Take their pickup strategies at your own peril. Although they're easy to spot.

[–]Itsthepizzafairy points points [recovered] | Copy

Nothing alpha about a bunch of insecure neckbeards with serious lack of analytical thinking skills. Take their pickup strategies at your own peril. Although they're easy to spot.

You're right, they're easy to spot. They're usually found condoning socialism, or praising Obama.

[–]Rooster1981 points points [recovered] | Copy

Fuck off with the politics, angry little incel.

[–]Itsthepizzafairy points points [recovered] | Copy

aspergers laden 5'4 chubby virgins like you sure have tempers

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[–]Modredpillschool26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

RP is about strategy and pragmatism.

Exactly this. It just happens that self-improvement is pragmatic, in general. But I've always hated the phrase "it's just about self-improvement bro" because it raises an obvious question. By whose standards are we improving?

When we use the phrase "self improvement" it's trying to dumb down exactly what's taking place here to appease the feminine imperative. No, it's not just improvement. It's strategizing in a zero sum game. There will be losers.

[–]TYMRHI points points [recovered] | Copy

"SJW Cuck Shacks", "Aids Skrillex and Trigglypuff"... Did a 13 year old write this?

Can you guys just leave this sub alone? This sub isn't political; it's about sexual strategy For men while the feminine narrative dominates. just because the alt right has appropriated the concept of red pill for their own ideology and narrative doesn't mean we're interested in your hogwash. The fact T_D bans every dissenting voice tells me enough.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Have you read the original post? the_donald comes from theredpill. GLO's style was the way it is way before it was adopted by the_donald.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

I read the original post. What happened to ciswhitemalestrom and his family shouldn't happen to anybody, but i'm also reading between the lines. Correct me if i'm wrong, but this new platform would house many subs who are under (sometimes perceived) attack by militant liberals / SJWs. I don't want a smaller, centralized community where the majority of the content is political and of which the population is used to echoing their own views and smacking down opposition with bans. "Specialized features for vetting members and preventing infiltration." just means you can't be in opposition to the group if you want to participate.

As to GLO's style; i find it tasteless and unnecessary. But that's just my personal opinion. It's shit when T_D uses it, and it was shit before that. The most appealing aspects of TRP to me are the evidence-based analysis of sexual strategy for men, not hyper-masculine use of language.

[–]Modredpillschool5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

We're not moving any subreddits off of reddit, and we're not changing the nature of how our forums work. We're opening tools to help men build their own private tribes and communicate privately with each other to build power. The people you interact with will be your choice and will most likely be like-minded.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome. Decentralizing and allowing for the creation of a network of localized TRP groups. Fantastic strategy for grass roots expansion.

[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i find it tasteless and unnecessary.

Nothing wrong with liking 'apples'. Some like 'oranges' and others like 'grapes'. His style may not resonate with you, but it does resonate with others. We don't all speak the same language or consume information from identical teachings.

evidence-based analysis

Yeah... Think through that. How well does that work for "everyone"? There is more than one path and not all are unlocked the same way.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Politics are personal. Divorce law, abortions, insurance, sexual strategy are all influenced by politics. The judges apointed over you and the college tribunals are all a part of political maneuvering.

[–]TYMRHI points points [recovered] | Copy

Sure, a lot of these things are of concern to all men; but a lot of other trash is smuggled in.

Keep this to theredpillright. Mods made it for a reason, no?

[–]Modredpillschool7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

Can you guys just leave this sub alone?

Who the hell are you? GLO has been here for years giving good advice to men.

[–]TYMRHI points points [recovered] | Copy

The way this reads just feels like a plug for T_D. A growing trend in the manosphere, in my eyed.

Not to take away from his bountiful contributions.

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then reread it. You're either intentionally missing the point or trolling

[–]thatbirrelevant points points [recovered] | Copy

This Trump bullshit doesn't count as good advice, and it's totally irrelevant to this sub.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

It wasn't advice or political endorsement, it was a foreshadowing of what is going to happen to TRP once it gets in the admins sights. But nuance is lost on retards so I don't even know why I'm trying at this point.

[–]SocialJusticeWhiner20 points21 points  (11 children) | Copy

TRP has always been political. Chateau Heartiste is on the sidebar. He takes his right wing politics as seriously as he does game. Much of what is negatively affecting us as men in western society are products of cultural Marxism. Cultural Marxism is being pushed by the left via social justice movements to give equal outcome to all, not equal opportunity, with some being more equal than others. Divide man and women and divide people based on the races. Utilize marginalized (think of how marginalize women are) groups (3rd waved, BLM, groups pushing all flavors of immigration) to destroy the current system funded by individuals like George Soros and your favorite multi-national corporations who don't really give a fuck about anything but growth of consumption and lowering wages.

While you may have your political inclinations we all have to see the truth. Women don't need you like they used to. Now they have big daddy government to protect and feed them, mostly by taking your money and throwing you in prison if you won't cooperate. So vote for bigger government and support the minorities who just want equity, while they make it more difficult for productive minorities like asians to get into colleges and medical school because that's fair right?

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[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

So strange that you know what TRP is about but never contributed anything

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with this.

Politics is marketing, and Donald Trump's people had a brilliant marketing strategy. They targeted conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, "red pill" guys, and a bunch of other marginalized groups that weren't being catered to by any other political movement. Even better, Trump did not have to actually say anything in support of these groups, he just kind of had to make them "feel" like he was on their side (that's why he took a week to denounce the KKK).

Then, after he gets in power, it's business as usual. Trump has not done, and will not do, a single thing to help any "red pill" policy. And the thing that blows my fucking mind is how quickly otherwise intelligent red pill guys fell for his shtick.

I do support the whole idea of a community not based on the reddit platform, however.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 15 points16 points  (24 children) | Copy

Obama reduced the burden of evidence for college rape tribunals via title 9, from beyond a reasonable doubt to a preponderance of evidence. It was obvious to all of the intelligent people here that Hillary was going to push things further.

But honestly if you don't understand why the Red Pill had to become politicized in the past couple of years chances are slim that you have the intellectual capacity to benefit from this place.

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[–]1NPIF1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

Sorry GLO but I'm willing to bet there's a silent majority of RPers who are not supportive of the politicization of this sub. While your points around title IX may be relevant to the overall discussion, suggesting Trump was/is the solution to the PC left is nonsense. He is an incompetent leader and everyone knows it. Let's call a spade a spade and acknowledge his election was a big "Fuck You" to the establishment and politics as usual. Unfortunately for literally everyone else on the planet who is not a subscriber to T_D, that fuck you was also indirectly towards us who want competent, decent leadership in office. And while Hillary isn't perfect, she's not a walking embarrassment like the current commander in chief.

But I digress. My main point is that everyone should be permitted to express their political views, but this sub is not the right place for partisan arguments one way or another.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 4 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy

No partisan arguments were made you retarded fuckface. Your inability to understand that this post was about how Reddits Admins destroy communites they disagree with is why you are going right the fuck into the ban pile with the other retarded losers.

The problem is that idiots like you cling to the most emotionaly exciting aspect of the post and are unable to see the bigger picture presented.

[–]1NPIF2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

I wasn't commenting on the post, which is precisely why I didn't respond to the post, I was commenting on your bit about why TRP needs to be politicized - a point I disagree with - which is why I responded to you directly.

It's a shame you immediately resort to personal attacks when someone disagrees with you. Maybe it's time to cut back on the juice brah.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy

Then you are too much of an idiot to understand endorsing a policy change and blanket supporting a candidate. Either way you don't have the mental capacity to participate in this community.

[–]1NPIF2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Suit yourself. It seems as of late this sub has become an echo chamber with only limited useful, new content. While I did respect you (I even bought one of your sweaters, dick head), at this point it's clear you care less about the membership and more about your own ego.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

We just banned hundreads of people for being too retarded for sperging out at the mention of Donald Trump. You definetly belong on that list. And for the record I'm more of a Vladamir Zurinovski guy than a Trump fan.

That being said the more idiots we purge from this community the less ai have to cater to the lowest common denominator. In fact I care so much about my membership that I don't want the retard membership polluting the good membership.

Why would an ethic Russian give a fuck about Donald Trump if the American government is still supporting ISIS in Syria and Chechan separatists in Russia? This is about you being an idiot my Ego is more than fine.

[–]1NPIF1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

So because we disagree on one aspect of the sub, that warrants my banning from the entire community? That seems like overkill, especially considering the fact that I've contributed multiple front-page posts to this sub over the last few years and spent a fair bit of time answering questions on asktrp.

As for your personal political leanings, I don't really care who or why you support them. All I care about is the content in TRP staying on-message, and you can call it concern trolling if you like, but I genuinely believe we dilute the value of our content when we package it with political discourse. You can be anti-SJW while also supporting a democratic candidate. These views are not mutually exclusive and I still think a lot of RPers don't agree with the direction the mods took regarding the politicization of the sub.

Edit: That said, it is your subreddit and I am but one visitor. Which is why I didn't bitch about the decision back then. TBF I didn't realise by voicing my opinion now it would ruffle so many feathers.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

You can be anti-SJW while also supporting a democratic candidate. These views are not mutually exclusive

That's why you don't belong here. In fact I worry about what you are telling my children given this idiotic perspective.

[–]heisenberg_211 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So basically your argument is, 'If you dont't agree with me then yo are an idiot' /u/NPIF has been responding to you in a civil manner by presenting his point of view and your reaction just childish.

[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

your reaction just childish.

You are missing the point.

has been responding to you in a civil manner

So what? You assume obligation or entitlement because of your choice of behavior?

'If you dont't agree with me then yo are an idiot'

LoL. You don't agree with GLO, yet, passively you are thinking he is an idiot. Ya Hypocrite.

People on this sub need to stop acting like they are anything but human.

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[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm doing my best to alienate as many crayons eaters who can't comprehend that the Red Pill is an anti Egalitarian philosophy.

[–]AnonymousAndLovinIt65 points66 points  (9 children) | Copy

Why do I get the feeling the community on this app will be mostly politically driven?

[–]satanicpriest1315 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because there's a lot of parallels between the red pill and conservative ideology: Everyone, women included, must be accountable for their actions. The whole discussion about birth control and abortions. Race realism and understanding that men are good at certain things and women are good at certain other things. There's only 2 genders, everything else is a mental illness.

This is is the logical course. I went from the red pill to dark enlightenment, /pol/, Trump and maybe even beyond. It made sense to me how all these things related

[–]Modredpillschool17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

The vision that I see has a much more personal, smaller community approach than reddit. Rather than having large groups of people yelling over each other, this allows you to build smaller, more robust bonds with like-minded individuals so you can work on building your power & success.

[–]AnonymousAndLovinIt9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Do you think those who live in areas with no RPers will benefit from this? Because that is my situation, and I'm curious.

[–]Modredpillschool10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think so. I happen to be long distance with a few of my close friends, and we've already diverting our communications away from the popular messenger services like facebook because of the sensitive nature of our conversations.

A platform like this might not be as important if you see your friends daily, but for me, this is exactly the sort of thing I need.

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[–]jdgalt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you are concerned with the wrong threat. If the US government ever wants into your computer or your phone, you can forget about defending against them; they're already there.

The threat I'm more worried about is SJWs -- extreme leftists who have nothing better to do than dox, and try to disemploy, etc., their opponents. Against them, encryption apps such as Signal are almost certainly good enough as long as we don't do stupid things that compromise our security.

But as somebody said elsewhere on this thread, a lot of our members feel the need to change 'nyms periodically, and that's not a bad idea. I suggest that any "vetting" scheme carry with it the ability to do this (and be automatically given the access that your old account had), with no one but the moderators knowing the connection between your multiple identities.

[–]shadowq81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

At first It was just a tool..

but there has been a fiasco of some top mod or creator was it turned out was a member of US senate or something..

anyways in the beginning redpill was "just a tool for men"

now it seems people want to herd it into a "secure communication channel" in order to cash out from a cult like following ?

[–]beginner_7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Note: Bitcoin is not anonymous at all.

So if we are talking about security and doxxing, you should really do your research before donating or you actually can get doxxed. Because SJWs can now easily track all transaction going to the posted address.

This in reverse obviously also applies to the admins or gaylubeoil, whomever operates the posted bitcoin address. In fact a lot of care should be taken to where the received money is then transferred to. But I assume they are aware of that.

[–]Modredpillschool3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, it's always important to realize that bitcoins are traceable.

If you have a bitcoin address on your linkedin profile, and have forwarded coins to a cause like this, it will attach you to it.

Always use a new address for receiving, and use mixers between transfers to yourself.

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not to be a shitbag, but GLO doxxed himself if you have been following the manosphere long enough.

[–]beginner_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah but it's mostly for the donators to keep this in mind.

[–]throw174537 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

There's a lot of useful stuff here for privacy:

Might also be more productive to use existing tools rather than create everything custom - there are a lot of encrypted - secure chat apps. Signal being the obvious.

It also presents a risk just to organise in that way - someone joins some private secretive internet group - and even if it secure as fuck technically - 1 human error - or person leaking, and it could be damaging to all.

[–]Modredpillschool4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

I think one of the major failings of some of these projects is how hard some of them are to adopt. Signal exists, and yet facebook is people's messenger of choice.

As for security, our small tribe infrastructure should limit how damaging leaks will be. They will be based on small networks of trust which will be harder to infiltrate with very little upside for doing so.

[–]throw174531 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The vast majority of people favor convenience over security.

One thing I've been considering is that instead of backtracking when confronted with being doxxed. Just stand by it. All of it. Every taken out of context comment, joke that is being treated as seriousness, etc.

"I said it, I stand by it".

That is far easier said than done, and the understandable response is panic and to try to mitigate fallout, but I actually think alot of the damage is done irrespective of how the person responds - and a no compromising approach of "I stand by everything I said" - but not getting drawn into justifying or explaining on specifics.

In terms of a tribe infrastructure limiting, one aspect which would still be dangerous is that - presumably - it would be people close to each other geographically (city, town, perhaps country)

Most of the fallout of being doxxed would be in the local community of that person. Their job, family, social connections etc.

So could still be similarly damaging. Although by having it decentralised you do have a much stronger ability to claim it's just a "social group among friends, not affiliated with anything". No links to TRP etc. Plausible Deniability is always something worth retaining.

I'm mostly just free thinking as I type this, it's an interesting dilemma:

How can people organise, something key to causing change and ultimately gaining societal, political, cultural influence and power. Yet at the same time mitigate the likelihood of - or impact from - being doxxed by organising.

I think a tribe approach is quite an intelligent way to go about that - depending on how it's implemented.

[–]jdgalt0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

If I were going to upgrade security on TRP.RED, I would start by making the site work via "https:" It is one of the few sites I use that still requires a password to be transmitted over http.

Are you familiar with EFF's Surveillance Self-Defense initiative?

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

TRP.RED and both force https and will not allow you to log in http.

[–]jdgalt1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

If that's true it's new since I did it last night, right before posting my comment.

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, it's been in place since we launched.

[–]jdgalt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tried it again. You're right, I'm wrong.

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[–]Rhunta21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

Programmer here, i am not sure what the_donald is, but subscribed to the redpill for 4 years. I have more experience in backend than frontend development.

[–]twenty7lies0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm a web developer.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

For those reluctant to even consider this, note that this here inter webs message board is fucked, as in Fucked Company. One day / r / TheRedPill will die. So with / r / hamsters and it's cousin board / r / Hambeasts. It isn't a matter of if, but when. Eventually they will be forced to sell to are large company who will turn it into an ad placement depot until the whole shitstir falls apart. Plan your exit now.

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[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I come to the thread where many people are worried that the new platform would turn political. I find a bunch of people whining about Trump in TRP.

Fucking Christ, people, just stop.

[–]jdgalt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's odd. One of the things I notice about TRP.RED is that TheRedPillRight subreddit is not mentioned there.

[–]valvadi26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

I truly believe many of you are missing the point. This is not about conflating TRP with T_D and politics. The mention of T_D was merely being used as an example of what will more than likely happen when TRP gains enough influence to become a viable threat to the SJW/feminist stranglehold on thought. Yes T_D was run by a RP mod but no one is saying we want TRP to become T_D or a political activist group. What we ARE talking about is maintaining a space for us to think and speak freely.

[–]Modredpillschool18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

I truly believe many of you are missing the point. This is not about conflating TRP with T_D and politics. The mention of T_D was merely being used as an example of what will more than likely happen when TRP gains enough influence to become a viable threat to the SJW/feminist stranglehold on thought. Yes T_D was run by a RP mod but no one is saying we want TRP to become T_D or a political activist group. What we ARE talking about is maintaining a space for us to think and speak freely.

The one guy in this thread with reading comprehension!

[–]ForgingFakes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like some snowflakes looking for safe spaces

[–]SilverGryphon8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm surprised The Red Pill is allowed to exist. Speaking the truth about women on other subs, even the supposedly male dominated ones, will get you banned/down voted. Once, I posted the same comment on this sub and another one that is geared towards men. The one posted here gets 40 upvotes, while the same one posted on the "male dominated" sub gets -15 downvotes. This sub is one of the few bastions of truth concerning relationships. Comment was about single moms who try to make you a beta provider.

[–]valvadi4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The reason we are allowed to exist is because we drive traffic to reddit and related sites. We used to be a nuisance that was used as a tool by the SJW types but we have grown enough to develop into a threat to the establishment. Once the threat becomes large enough, action must be taken to wipe it out. While I don't see this happening in the near future, GLO, in his usual clairvoyance, is forming a plan of action to ensure we remain organized when shit hits the fan.

[–]pornpornpppp5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why make an app (that can get removed from the app store, think of Pepe) when you can make a similar website, sans cucky leadership?

Imagine a reddit clone like Voat, except only one subreddit (TRP). Basically just copy and paste TRP to a different URL where Spez can't reach us

[–]Modredpillschool3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy and

The app will be a mobile interface, but all of it will be accessible online with a normal browser.

[–]Qerus4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Probably should link us to another site with that Bitcoin string. Admins could change it....

[–]redefining_reality1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If they did that, you would have a massive and very easily provable legal case against Reddit.

You could sue the piss out of them for theft over that.

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[–]ChadThundercockII0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

and are not afraid to be doxxed.

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[–]ChadThundercockII1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Speaking for myself, anyone who gets mt name, address, personal e-mail, facebook or any kind og information can't do jack shit with it. This means I have total freedom to speak however I want wihout hiding behind throwaway accounts. I manage my life the same way i manage my internet activity. No shits given, relative absolute freedom

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[–]ChadThundercockII1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am working on the income generating business, so I can be 100% free. Money is the only form of freedom I can see these days.

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Mao was better than Stalin

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[–]JackGetsIt10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is actually really scary.

[–]Modredpillschool13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

I absolutely believe it to be true. The recent leak on the Representative makes me think that may be literally what happened.

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They all want the increased advertising money that comes from a story mostly women will view.

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[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

actual alpha male

There is no such thing as an alpha male. There are alpha traits and there are beta traits. This is TRP 101, yet we have tards going forth and spreading the alpha shit near and far.

[–]Urishima6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

So have a seat on papa GaylubeOil's thick muscular quads

I have dreamed of this day...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always thought about this.

In fact, back when I had time, I had a facebook page for men and it was blocked by facebook and that's the day when I realized that these people are not on our side.

If we need to create content for our quadrillion progenies, we need to build someone of our own.

[–]aanarchist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who is profiting off of this app?

[–]Future_Alpha2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Lol @ the_donald.

Got banned by twelvetendies for describing sexcapades with a sikh girl and posting links from pub med that homosexuality often arises in children from dysfunctional families.....

Verdict: the_donald is cucked.

[–]gotnoh80 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

you should learn/understand what that place is and isn't

[–]Future_Alpha0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Aware me then?

I thought it was a more open-minded community.

[–]gotnoh81 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I normally ignore asks like this because you should really be able to figure it out yourself but I get the feeling you're a kid. I'm not gonna answer any more than this:

there are really two types of people on reddit: the type that manipulate it to spread information/propaganda and everyone else (that consume this propaganda). we're both among the latter, the ones that simply consume. the politics sub really only has a few active posters that manipulate the messages that get posted there and then the drones argue and circle jerk in the comments. the donald is the exact same thing on the other side. the thing is that the people who don't realize this (the vast, vast majority of reddit) get influenced or swayed by this propaganda on either side.

let me give you a scenario: unwitting people who aren't politically inclined come to this site for whatever reason see posts painting bernie in a good light on the front page. they click the link to see a propaganda piece making bernie look good. wow! what a great guy. They open up the comments, it's all pro bernie! why won't The Man give this guy a shot? well, after weeks of coming back to reddit (the site is an addicting time waste for people with no direction, which is the majority of humanity) they stop thinking about why they support bernie. they just do it. well if you support bernie, the bad guy is whomever the people who support bernie tell you it is. soon these people stop asking questions about this as well. they see the same information again and again, and pretty soon, by the time they see the next article they already know 70% of the information in it because they're so 'well informed' and 'knowledgeable.' it acts as confirmation bias and inflates their ego and confidence.

so what do we do with this? we could leave... but reddit is a large platform, there are many mindless, unwitting people that visit this place on a daily basis and still more find it through other means. maybe they come to learn about DIY or some video game community. the other option is that we present a compelling alternate worldview. stupid people are emotional. they are easily manipulated by emotion. they love drama. it makes them feel excited and they can jump into it and feel like they're part of something exciting. thus, the donald was created.

it's a place that was created to combat the liberal narrative on reddit. it's basic purpose, as I see it, is to convert redditors to an alternate world view. if you say anything that would make the people they're trying to convert hesitate or cringe away they're gonna ban you. it's still reddit. they will still have cringe-worthy pun chains, retarded comments, random nonsense posts about cakes with frog pictures, and embarrassing pictures of fat chodes with kekistan flags. They create a ruckus and start drama in the hopes to gain notoriety so that people on the far left repost and react to them. some people in the middle get converted to the right as a result, some people on the right get energized and feel more hopeful.

and of course, big 'celebrity pundits' like milo and gavin mcinnis and lauren southern go over there to hawk their latest book or podcast or whatever. a perfectly segmented market for them to advertise to.

the people there are nothing more than useful idiots. I go there occasionally and spam upvote or post something to continue the cycle.

tl;dr they aren't there for your discourse, they're there to convert. if you want something close to free thought and deep discussion go to 8ch pol. you will never have it on reddit.

[–]Future_Alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome. Thanks alot!

Do you think 4chan /pol/ offers deep discussion or is it a conversion to a worldview like reddit? Reason I ask is because the 8ch site does not load for me (there is some error or something)

[–]RedDeadCred0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I got banned for blaming hedonistic culture on Jewish run media. Just a one line statement, nothing vitriolic. There's some suspicious shut going on with those mods.

[–]Future_Alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's some suspicious shut going on with those mods.

Really? So I guess I am not the only one who noticed that then. That is good to hear!

When I posted the articles from pubmed (it was NIH funded studies - so they had little bias/conflict of interest) the mod said it was 'bunk science' and that homophobia was not supported (although there was nothing homophobic about my comment at all). I suspect that the mods of the_donald are SJWs in disguise

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so what vetting will you do that you can guarantee will not or is not likely to wind up as leaked info?

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy

We have been discussing implementing controls that allow small tribe-like communities to do their own vetting, we're still working on specifics.

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that is helpful. of course the understanding is that anyone listed and vetted would be easily doxable if someone was to get the coding / decryption and use it that way.

[–]Modredpillschool8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Our policy with TRP.RED has been to minimize what details are stored in case of breach. I've been mulling over emergency deletion features which allow you to nuke not only your own account, but your private conversations, not only from your side, but from the recipient's side as well, so they no longer have record of it. Stuff like that. Obviously nothing will be 100% secure if you don't trust the recipient but this does help.

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the one thing I like about reddit is that it doesnt need an email or anything.

[–]StraightGlueWater3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

The main reason people get doxxed on Reddit is because they attach their personal lives to their accounts.

Maybe the admins occasionally disseminate IP information, but if you are prudent and keep your Red Pill shit on a different account, you're pretty safe.

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The problem with IP address linking isn't that it identifies you directly, but it can link multiple accounts together, one of which may be identifiable with loose information.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tor and an email that doesn't require a phone number like GMX solves that problem.

[–]bulletbill870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like a clandestine cell system for TRP? That's what it sounds like to me. And to be honest, it's been proven as a very effective means of operation for specific movements and TRP definitely qualifies for that.

[–]RedDeadCred0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You're asking an anonymous stranger to build you the app though - for free. The odds of them adding their own logging or even spreading a virus is high.

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We're not asking an anonymous stranger to build anything at the moment, only lend with the dev of apis and such. All code going live will be reviewed.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Between our experience running the Red Pill, The Donald, TRP IRC and having app on your phone we have the resources human and technological to develop a robust system.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

how do you deal with the local meetup problem?

i've been doing the seddit/PUA slack meetup and it's gradually been replacing city-based groupme chats. but anonymity is dead. even if someone gives me a disposable email address, the second they show their face in person, they're as good as doxxed.

[–]novalentineforyou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why not agree to use pseudonyms?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i've been running the seddit/PUA slack group (PM for an invite) for a couple months now since my local seddit admins "accidentally" deleted the groupme.

here's the skinny... GLO is talking about meetups. you can't have meetups without people getting doxxed. someone can give me a mailinator [disposable] email for the slack invite and i give no fucks, fine. but the problem comes when people show up to a meetup and you're outed. the only way otherwise is to have some "verified" system where others have to risk their own doxxing to vouch that you're not a shitbag SJW.

[–]colmatterson4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Interesting. I would have thought that the subreddit that began as the endorsement sub for the Republican candidate for the office of the POTUS that would eventually become the elected POTUS would have gotten big naturally, because, you know, he's the President of the United States. But to claim that it was all an ingenious strategy to build such a bad reputation that the sub would become notorious for it's toxicity, unintentionally sorry, i guess intentionally becoming so big BECAUSE of that fact rather than in spite of... Wow, that is a bold claim. It's actually impressive in a way that someone would even try to make that claim with a straight face.

[–]BPasFuck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't think there were several other subreddits in the early days, all vying to be 'the' subreddit for trump?

He's talking about how they edged out all the others, and he's not wrong. That's exactly how it happened.

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[–]DefMaybe1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Although I laud the effort to move to a more secure setup, be aware that it is not possible to have a total secure conversation over the internet, take things with a grain of salt or whatever your preference of grain might bee.

[–]Modredpillschool4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is true. Remember, even if you use the best encryption in the world, people are a weak link. Our goal with this network is to minimize damage from infiltration while simultaneously making it very difficult to infiltrate.

[–]tiftik1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No need to complicate things. Setup a Matrix server

Then it can be accessed with a client like Riot:

Even this might be overkill, perhaps Signal is already good enough.

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One of the big problems with some of these technologies is how accessible they are, and how easy they are to adopt. If it's not simple or requires a specialized client, it won't be adopted.

[–]Everythings1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What if it's taken offline before I see the new resource?

I've not even finished the sidebar

Where would I find it?

[–]Modredpillschool1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy is already up and running.

[–]Xoramung1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

The admins can and do read your private messages, modify your comments and collude with their SJW allies to create leadership transitions. In fact they recently tried this with the Red Pill but were unsuccessful.

What every admin for each sub or the regular reddit admins?

[–]Modredpillschool1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

regular reddit admins

[–]Xoramung0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

ok so mods for subs cannot, right?

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No we definitely cannot. Thank god.

[–]mdcrubengonza1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is great.

[–]Ambiguousdude1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anyone against this idea; deleted trees. Apparently you can't be RP and not care about TD. Some of us aren't even from the USA come on man don't put me in a box.

[–]p3n1x1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"...when lefties show up to virtue signal about your thought crimes, provoke them further by baning them and telling them to choke on your semen..."


[–]1User-31f64a4e1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would recommend contacting some of the other alternative tech sites ( instead of twitter, for facebook, for youtube, Infogalactic for Wikipedia, etc. )

If you can find something already in place for the same reason (getting free of SJWs), then it may behoove you to use that (so as to help get to critical mass).

If your requirements are unique enough, then by all means, build your own thing!

[–]gotnoh81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you fags seriously run out of L purple before I could get one?

also lmfao @ the number of 2XL+ shirts that are sold out. really speaks volumes about 'the community.' that DC meetup is gonna be a circus

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[–]klickclackbang3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No one forces us to sign up with Reddit but I have often felt a sort of prisoner here, for lack of a better word. It's full of hateful leftist freaks but it's also one of the biggest discussions platforms online, leaving you little choice. Then, I thought to myself, "Self? At some point, something's gotta give." With the censor-happy leftist modshits and the traction of subs like this, T_D, et al, a new dawn must at some point arrive. Hopefully this is it.

Sorry I'm not a techie, I'd love to help out any other way.

[–]Modredpillschool1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Please consider donating.

[–]tuyguy10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Reddit is totally compromised and IMO has been bought and paid for by liberal shills 5+ years ago. When I first started using Reddit my political views shifted left really quickly. I became one of those guys who thought "Scandinavia was doing it right". Now I'm almost certain it exists as a platform for converting the youth.

Not long ago a TD user was banned from worldnews and messaged the mods. The reply was something like "You complete fool, Reddit is not what you think it is. We have control of the social media sphere now, get used it"

Not to mention the armies of bots/voting machines of subs like conspiracy, TD, politics, w and news. Scary stuff.

[–]casemodsalt4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Semi related but I've always noticed reviews or forum posts that seemed like undercover posts by the companies themselves.

[–]wild_deer_man3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have decent web ui/client programming skills. If needed, I'm in.

[–]rorrr1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why do I get down voted when I say TRP is another majorly conservative, republican sub? It looks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Own it, people.

[–]ShadowPeopleAreReal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The mods are, but a majority of members aren't. They are the ones voting.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

it's not that it's conservative/republican. it's that it's anti-modern liberal/leftist. there's a difference. the bulk of TRP at the core believes that if your life is fucked, it's your fault (which is anticollectivist). TRP doesn't believe in political correctness or feelings or sugar coating bitter truths (all of which are anti-left). TRP does believe in free speech and gender differences (both extremely anti-left nowadays). so whether you're a moderate, classic liberal, libertarian, or conservative, a lot of TRP tenets are everyday life. but not for modern liberals or progressives.

[–]SILENTSAM690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Likely because many here are not right wing. It is plain wrong to think you have to be right wing to be RP.

[–]batavianguy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

ITT: TRP self-proclaimed Alphas deleting and cussing 'sjw cucks', ironically mimicking what they loathe so much about 'sjw cucks'. Lmao.

[–]SpyMonkey3D2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So the fastest way to grow a community is to write something deliberately provocative and make sure lefties hear about it. Then when lefties show up to virtue signal about your thought crimes, provoke them further by baning them and telling them to choke on your semen. Pretty soon lefties will tell other lefties about the injustice creating a positive feedback loop of publicity.

Same strategy Trump used. If it was intentional or just him not giving a fuck.

[–]TheRedManFromRussia2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

And where do you come in in this app/forum/whatever?

Sounds like a: "hey I got this app idea, it's pretty simple to build, can you do it?" Type of thing.

Most self respecting programmers won't work for free.

Gl though, maybe you can learn to code!

[–]yes_we_can_t0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I'm on the left side, but free speech is the fundamental basis of a free and strong society.

I have experience working with security and confidential information such as in banks, and if I had more time I could help out with such a project. Programmers have a long and strong history of doing that for free: open source.

If they make it open source I might contribute. If they don't, it won't be secure anyway.

Not sure about the advantages over Signal, but these are smart people, even if we disagree politically.

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[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

We just banned quite a few people over this "misunderstanding"

[–]bobsbigboi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

which is why we can no longer afford to allow Aids Skrillex and Trigglypuff to rifle through your personal messages.

This is one of the most powerful passages I've ever read. Your prose is stunning and brave.

[–]moroi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wouldn't something like r /raddi, r /zeronet or r /altheamesh be a better approach?
That is, not having a central point of failure? And then there is already a

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'm hoping this will open up the possibility of finding other RPs locally without fear.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

Looking for hot sexy single Red Pill Men in your area?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

They don't need to be single...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Somebody's trying to be a plate. Work for it bb

[–]Modredpillschool1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think that will be one major upshot of these changes.

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[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

His ideas will be integrated with

[–]RedsideoftheMoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmfao i still don't understand what the fuck TRP has to do with right/left politics besides the general notion that SJW's are extreme leftists so apparently that makes TRP'ers extreme right-ists.

Last I checked if I found out 2 weeks in that I got a girl pregnant and we both agreed that it would be better for her to get an abortion that's mainstream right-wing taboo

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[–]colmatterson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is inevitable that any "politicized" forum will have people of the opposing viewpoint infiltrate. That cannot be stopped. The issue, in my opinion, isn't about how to prevent that from happening, but should be how to confront them when it DOES happen. Because it will, 100% it will happen.

And yes, I know that Red Pill isn't inherently political, I used the word "politicized" just to mean that, like politically-charged mediums, Red Pill is a strong stance on one side of a spectrum and a Red Pill forum will draw people from the OTHER side of that spectrum to either troll, or start chaos, or whatever else.

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[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Unfortunately, the minute somebody posts a paypal address here, leftists will immediately start trying to doxx anybody attached to it.

[–]ShadowPeopleAreReal0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

When does the app release and how much will it cost?

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The app will be free for users, and hopefully we can launch as soon as we raise enough money. We actually have something picked out.

[–]M0RKET0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Except this

"Specialized features for vetting members and preventing infiltration."

all conditions are met by Telegram. Just saying.

[–]Blastphemous0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

And when it becomes big, do the volunteers get a piece of the profits?

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you invest a significant amount of time or money into this, I'm happy to find a way to benefit all who helped. Please note that even today, the ads on only cover a portion of our hosting bill. Nobody's getting rich off this. This is a labor of love.

[–]Boring_Boris0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can we maybe have a telegram closed chat?

[–]Mildly_Sociopathic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Will there be sub communites within this app, like it is here with TRP? Like MRP, RPR, or RPW? or instead a flair/tag system that allows you to specify what sort of post it is so people can filter out whatever they don't want?

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even better- this will be used to create your own small networks of like minded individuals.

[–]JJokerFaze0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good Idea, I like it!

[–]clavabot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's times like this where I wish I learned programming

[–]Legitninjaguy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The first strike was when The_Donald called out r news and r Politics for censoring blood drive information after the Orlando shooting. While the Left loves claiming moral superiority there is nothing moral about censoring blood drive information after one of the largest terrorist attacks in American history. This was such a blow to the narrative that the admins had no choice but to shut down the entire discussion and manually remove threads themselves.

But I thought blood donations clogged up hospitals, etc. during crisis time and there is already enough blood to go around, Are you sure that's immoral?

[–]twxxx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

not why they did it, so your point is retarded. also they sure as hell take donations, just not at the hospital. fucking dumbass

[–]Legitninjaguy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Settle down dude. Conservative raising an honest point

[–]420PussyEater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I only have $2.00 worth of bitcoin but I'll donate it to the cause.

[–]Nergaal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Serious question: have you noticed any type of silencing of TRP along the lines of the one received by TD?

[–]drypumpkin200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not a programmer. Don't have bitcoin. I'll buy the shirt though.

Slightly disappointed the lion has no dick

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We should start with Signal

[–]lifeisledzep0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haha this is hilarious. Great idea. But I'd like to remind you that you can be a "leftie" and still have swallowed TRP. Like myself. Now, I'm no cuck SJW. Just making a distinction, that's all. Not butt hurt or whining. Carry on

[–]TheJedi_Lied0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I logged in for the first time in a long time to express gratitude for this project; you guys work your ass off and risk a lot to make this sub happen.

Despite not being into politics and political shit, I still appreciate the voices and platform for them because I hate censorship more than an idea I may not agree with. That said, I'm definitely in the "less politics" camp and I hope the app isn't (only) a political echo chamber.

I still haven't come up with some enlightened ideas to share on trp that would be more than the usual noise, but what I've gleaned has been transformative, so thanks a lot to you and the mods/ec's for keeping this thing moving forward.

[–]yyiiii0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

More t-shirts! M and L are already gone and the fundraiser has 4+ days to go!

edit blue is sold out of those sizes, black still has them available.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRuleZeroDAD0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

$100.00 sent.

Set it up. When I see Federalist Society guys I see socially get shot by Bernie supporters at a baseball practice, my priorities shift slightly outward.

This is becoming a true culture war designed to quash masculine leadership.

[–]feoen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It says a lot about Reddit that TwoX is set, by default, to show on my front page and cannot be removed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's a dope fucking tank top.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks. I hired a professional artist out of London to do my designs because I wanted kids here to get a fun souvenir.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If I could make a suggestion:

keep all your designs in an archive. Create a "Limited edition" promotion where "Hey boys and girls, we're reviving this particular design for <some promotional purpose> because it sold so well a couple years back. Only 200 available during this limited release and they're selling quick-- get 'em while they're hot."

With the benefit that... all the designs will be available on a a relatively "rotating" basis...

...or simply, just keep 'em all available. Either way, it would be cool to see the various designs and products over time. For example, I'm broke as fuck right now. But in a few months, I'd totally throw down for a few shirts. So, i'd like it if this one stayed available or will be in the future.

Also, some alternative shirt styles and/or colors with the same design. Such as a V-neck, with an easily tearable tag. Ideally, with a choice for in Navy Blue as it contrasts nicely with the gold (the black & dark grey are also good choices imho).

[–]imadethistoshitpostt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Being doxxed sucked for him.

But cwm got drunk on power from being a e-janitor, thats pretty embarrassing and not what you guys are trying to teach here.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The New York Times sucking your dick would make anyone drunk

[–]Z33ger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Will the TRP app have any connection with the_fraternity?

[–]COAT_REMOVAL_SERVICE0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Litecoin is cheaper to send than bitcoin, FYI!

[–]DirtJellyBeanz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just curious what is the APP called exactly ? I can't find it on the APP list

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[–]tiberius140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Crap.. I had no idea about the censorship here on Reddit. I was under the impression the Reddit infrastructure/corporate team (don't know what to call it, really) was founded on libertarian-leaning principles. What the hell happened??

[–]JJokerFaze0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy could be THE solution. They just released the Beta Version yesterday. - decentralised - P2P - End-To-End encryption - no metadata

What do you guys think? Worth a try? The App works grate even has a "blog" and "forum" feature!!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Ridiculous how a sub preaching "outcome Independence" is scared about getting doxxed. Not very alpha if you ask me..

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

To some people, not me because I'm worthless, their status depends on other people not knowing their thought crimes.

[–]yes_we_can_t1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not caring whether a particular girl fucks you is not the same as not being worried about being witchhunted for having the wrong ideas.

[–]twxxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

outcome independence is a state of mind. some people like you use it to justify being a pussy.

[–]President-of-Reddit-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck you hater pussies for not seeing what is going on. It isn't a safe space, it is about being freed from snoopy big brother bullshit that Reddit has obviously become. Its about free ideas, and free speech something you do not have on Reddit no matter how you kid yourself. You go into to news and tell someone to quit being a faggot and you are run out and banned. You should be allowed to stand on the words you say bad or good, right or wrong. "They" police Reddit for everyone's muh feelings. Whaaaaa. Fucking babies. Everyone that is ragging on this is a total bitch, it is because they are scared of change and being away from their comfortable Reddit space.

[–]BobLordOfTheCows0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's funny; my partner and I were planning to make a new forum to compete with reddit for that same reason (She's the programmer, I'm the eye candy). Perhaps we can work together?

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm very interested to see what ideas you had. We've got right now as backups... perhaps we could expand on that.

[–]aga0800 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I dont agree with migrating to another platform, in fact that sounds beta as hell backing down from these cuck mods and admins on reddit

[–]Modredpillschool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nobody's migrating. We're developing new features to enhance the community.

[–]thisisathrowaway69990 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Wait wait this doesn't make sense. You are making a chat application to replace Reddit? What's the point of the chat app if we already have irc? Shouldn't we be focusing on making a Reddit like website instead of iPhone apps?

[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In tandem with reddit, for

[–]thisisathrowaway69990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can help with making an "4chan like Reddit" have similar experience. Truly anonymous and make it not possible to modify messages and shit like that. Deep web is overkill tbh. I also honestly think that for chatting the IRC channel is enough and think our efforts would be better spent on moving off of Reddit first. One thing to consider is that we will not be as discoverable so we likely want some sort of mirroring functionality. A bot to replicate all created port bidirectionally. Again, I can help

[–]Oakley_Boy10300 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm all in on this as well

[–]AntiWhite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TRP is not a threat to anything. Once in a while a leader like Cis will emerge but even on this sub most people got punked out by his rape bait Mexican comment. There is a reason TRP and T_D haven't been banned. They are at least somewhat in line with the narrative. Any of you fuckers want to show me your Alpha and I will follow you. GLO is the exception you're great. The rest of you won't even show your face.

[–]flowkingfresh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm in. Pumped when I first found this sub. I can see why others would not want us around, they are afraid.

[–]MessianicJuice-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Posts like this make me think I'm the only lefty in this sub lmao. You can accept the truth of hypergamy, acknowledge the importance of personal growth, and embrace the shattering of social illusions while still being a leftist.

In fact, socialism is entirely about red pilling the working class and inspiring them to stop being betas. Socialism isn't about dumbing down the masses and letting them be lazy cucks. It's about telling them they're getting fucked and inspiring them to become alpha enough to overthrow the decadent billionaires in order to end a system that keeps people from fulfilling their potential.

There are many leftist philosophers from Badiou to Zizek who think that identity politics is vapid and that SJWs do more harm to the struggle of the working class than capitalists do.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I will be the first one to jump on Zizecs hairy penis. In fact a lot of my big theoretical posts cite him. Is TRP compatible with leftism? Well I guess it would have to depend on the brand of leftism.

If we look at Che, Fidel, Tito Stalin Mao it would be very difficult to call them beta cucks. Ideologically we might have disagreements with these historical figures however on a personal level they were definitely not meek submissive men.

Growing up I had front row tickets to Soviet Values and I can tell you that what my grandparents belived is diametrically opposed to the current brand of SJWism.

Finally I would argue that TRP is more ideologicaly complex than most people here realize. On one hand the general consensus here is that of biological determinism, that people can't be saved from their fate ie the Pareto principle. You can't Red Pill the working class because we can't even Red Pill AskTRP.

On the other hand the Communist Chinese Party believes the west to be decadent losers obsessed with amoral acts, masterbation, virtue signaling and superfluous causes. The Red Pill shares this thesis.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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