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[–]tiedyetoothpicks481 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This whole attitude/piece of propaganda is how we ended with an entire generation of men (millennials) who think they "deserve" a 10/10 conventionally attractive hottie no matter what they look like. This is why some men get SO PISSED when women express any kind of physical preferences for the men they date. They were socialized to believe that women aren't supposed to be "shallow" and should always "give the nice guy a chance!" while also believing that "men are visual creatures who need to be physically attracted to you above all else, we can't help it!"
So they wander around pissed off that there isn't an instagram baddie gf for every single schlub in the world, and this is how we ended up with so many bitter incels.
[–]whiskey_and_oreos267 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
The whole "men are visual creatures and women aren't" thing pisses me off. Have men seen their own apartments and wardrobes? The only time they care about looks is when it's a woman they can show off to their friends.
[–]Jandi18175 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
They can’t differentiate salmon from baby pink. But sure…very visual. With their brown towels matching their brown beddings.
[–]FI-REfox67 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
To be fair, the shit stains on both are the same shade of brown XD
[–]whiskey_and_oreos49 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Until their favorite sports team changes their uniforms and suddenly men are fashion designers with ✨opinions✨
[–]mashibeans168 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Also in all actuality, women are 100% more visual than they are. We put a lot of care in how well and clean our clothes/accessories look, if they match, our rooms/homes are decorated so they have a homely, lived in feeling (not just a mattress, a chair, a TV and a videogame console), care for our hair, skin, nails... Lots of us love nail art just for the sake it looks pretty.
How is it that "men are visual creatures and women aren't" only when it comes to how sexually attractive they find a body??
[–]MamaGia18 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Hahahah. Isn't this the truth.
[–]cookiemonstergirls224 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I am generation Z and so many guys my age are angry incels. They think that their looks should not matter and that sexy women owe the sex. Ive met so many guys whose main personality traits are reddit, memes, p0rn, and video games yet they want a super model.
[–]Novemberinthechair142 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Wanna piss them off? Ask, "Why can't men look like like the guys in the Marvel Universe?!" Then say that's your standard.
[–]Some-Air944240 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah how’s that working out for those fellas?
Being broke and alone is something I can’t condone. 😆
[–]ccro76 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Gross.
These angry incels will never be happy. They've spent their formative years consuming all manner of bad, brain-destroying shit and have never even learnt how to develop a personality. Since they believe they are entitled to sex with beautiful women by default of their male existence, they have royally fucked themselves over.
[–]cookiemonstergirls2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I think that men of today (gen z and millennials) are way more entitled than their fathers and grandfathers ever were. Boomer men may have held some sexist views but they at least had more common sense and knew that they had to bring something to the table in a relationship. Most of the older men I know are actually less sexist than the guys my own age. I blame the red pill movement for this. The community has gotten huge in recent years and have brainwashed young men into hating women and using us as a scape goat for all of their problems.
[–]mashibeans135 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is why I despise all those gross "romantic comedy/comedy" movies written by certain men (ex. Adam Sandler) where the main character is almost always a shapeless, unattractive loser dude with ZERO attractiveness in anything (clothing, body, personality, hobbies, socially, career, etc.) ends up with a super attractive woman like Cameron Diaz.
You see that shit everywhere, Sitcoms, cartoons, movies... It's freaking gross.
[–]Geocities_SEO_Expert99 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
As soon as baby Boomer men had a foot in the door, they released a flood media that idealized loser males. Just watch old "square" TV and movies, the most obvious common denominator is that men who are lazy, low effort, dishonest, cowardly bums are shown as traitors and villains. I grew up thinking this was unrealistic and narrow-minded, and that guys who aren't "perfect" still can be good. Honestly, those older generation male writers knew men, they knew bums aren't secretly heroes.
[–]spicyspa51 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yep. 90s on the husbands in sitcoms became silly slobs with hot wives whereas in the past husbands were portrayed as mostly looks equivalent, put together and responsible. That 70s Show was the exception in the 90s.
Some men actually blame women for that change because it makes men look stupid. However, they aren't bothered that the men are slobs and the wives, all hot but shrewish nags.
[–]extragouda42 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is true. If you look at really old black and white films, the heroes were not the ugly men who were fat, lazy, and sat around whittling sticks. They were not low effort. They showed up like Clark Gable and brought flowers.
Then the 80s and 90s came along and all those comedies where some loser gets a hot girl started happening.
[–]LittleWinn14 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is why I watch things like I Love Lucy or The Andy Griffith Show where the focus is on being honorable, decent, dependable for the men. Andy is a guy I can respect, he treats women with respect, and he’s a good sheriff too. I don’t care if I have to spend my evenings living in Mayberry it’s better than spending it with some scrote.
[–]BBQCoolRanchQueen5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I love the Andy Griffith show! Gunsmoke is another one of my old favorites.
[–]extragouda8 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I have been approached by many, many men like this. It's unfortunate.
[–]cookiemonstergirls371 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Wow she is a mega pickme. If the genders were reversed people would make fun of the woman and call her a cow and say that the guy deserves better.😳
[–]Jinxhourglass140 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
They absolutely do. A video of a plus sized woman went viral a long time ago that showed her fit boyfriend bringing her breakfast and dinner in bed. There were sooo many comments like “good idea, keep her fat so she wont leave you.”
[–]lansburysoda321 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This isn’t groundbreaking or controversial at all. This is what we’ve been taught since we were girls: that our looks matter but his don’t, that we can learn to be attracted to someone based on “who they are inside.” Meanwhile, men don’t give us even a fraction of the grace we give them.
So it’s a no from me. I refuse to date a man I’m not attracted to. I like muscular men who take care of themselves. I eat well, work out, and I expect any man I date to do the same.
[–]Bbqchilifries41 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Honestly I learned this very early on at 19. I had a crush on my friend who was mildly chubby. Like overweight BMI but he had a cute face. There were garbage insecurities that he would never grow out of.
He did not improve. He never learned to take care of himself or his surroundings. He perpetuated incel ideology more the fatter he got. And he absolutely tried to neg me, because I was young pretty and rejected him when he tried to touch my thigh while we were hanging out. He idealized our shorter friend as his manic pixie dream girl. He was the pornsick epitome of a future redpiller.
[–][deleted]40 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's a whole other level of humiliating when a f** ugly guy treats you like s* or cheats on you or lies to you. You realize you've wasted precious years of your own youth where you look the best so to speak, I would hate to give my best years to some f**** ugly guy just to get left when we're 45 and have to start over. This is why you don't date ugly or broke men it's not worth the risk of your time on this earth
[–]capresesalad198533 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is legit the description of a guy I dated in my 20s. He was overweight, short, balding, and he was nice at first but then got super douchey. And good lord was I a pickme. I had to avert my eyes when we had sex because I just didn’t want to see his giant belly. And guess what!? He cheated on me with another queen of the pickmes!!!!! They are married now but he wanted a girl to stay home and be barefoot in the kitchen and that ain’t me sister. I’ve seen a few pictures of him now and thank god I dodged that bullet.
Wanna know one of the reasons he said it wasn’t working out? I am 5’10” and my height made him self conscious.
[–]TikiTikiTata-chalala8 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
10000% truth right here
[–]ForestDwellingSkunk297 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is actually infuriating. When this video began I was like okay this isn’t a bad message - I’m not standard shaming anyone by saying this, we should all date people we find attractive, but I do think as a society we are too looks focused and we’d all probably benefit from not being so focused on outer appearance.
HOWEVER, for her to basically go on and basically say that men NEED attractive women while women don’t need attractive men is just so fucking infuriating and like other commenters have mentioned, feeds into this narrative that all men DESERVE hot women regardless of their own qualities. It reminds me so much of the self improvement subreddit lately, which I had to unfollow because it’s basically the new incel sub with a bunch of guys who complain that since they are chubby/short/unemployed they will never find a girlfriend and then a bunch of short scrotes commenting being like I’m super short and/or ugly and my girlfriend is super hot so don’t worry about it. Like NO!!!! So women need to look past the fact that you don’t meet society’s standards for being attractive but you, the man, absolutely need and deserve a fucking Victoria’s Secret model. It just makes me want to barf. And of course these ugly dudes are even more focused on finding a “hot” woman so they can show her off like a status symbol, and stunt on the haters lol. I just can’t this type of shit makes me so angry my comment is probably barely coherent, lol.
[–]ashcantcatchabreak20 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Honestly it seems like an ego thing for her - she’s so hot and her bf isn’t, she feels like she’s the Queen of Sheba and a good counterculture rebel at the same time. Imagine what it will be like when she starts aging and her “nice” but unattractive partner decides to trade in for a newer model
[–]misscyansiren138 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This woman's smile is so disingenuous. Unwashed obese men already have out-of-control ego and she's making it worse with this tiktok. From personal experience, fit women who date fat men are highly insecure and want to be the "pretty" one in the relationship. They think that being with jabba the hut means he's not going to cheat. Somehow, her being "pretty" means that his tubby ass is going to value her more. WRONG.
Pickmeism: Not even once.
[–]drowsypillowprincess39 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
In my observation, women who date down are more often cheated on because the LVM start thinking they’re entitled to ALL women and will shoot their shot 24/7 or just buy sex. It’s gross.
[–]DatCatLove132 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This was quite painful to watch: yes, people can fall in love no matter their appearances… but normalizing that women don’t choose their partners based on appearances at same time stating men do it all the time is so wrong 😑
[–]IDontAgreeSorry130 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
NO I will NOT BECOME attracted to someone I initially find unattractive nor do I want to 🤢 If this was told to men they wouldn’t even be respectful about it lmao, why should we be ok with this?
Very happy that my guy is talll, muscular, works out often, keeps his hair and beard tidy, has a sense of style, etc etc 😍😍😍❤️❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍 No uglies for me! Cry about it !
Edit: I watched it again and I just hear that she also says “Men work the opposite way, they first need to be physically attracted to a woman before they get interested” LMFAOOOOOOOO girl me too?! The fuck?! I’m so done with this “men are visual creatures (but women are not)” bs. WE ARE VISUAL CREATURES AS WELL LOL
Edit: lmfao a scrote commented “I completely agree. No fat woman for me” Ok and?😂😂 This dummy things this will get any one of us triggered. Like yeah that’s exactly what we’re saying; it’s ok to have preferences, but it’s dishonest that men can say “no fat woman for me” but women get judged when we say “no fat man for me”. I don’t care if I get judged though, I do NOT find fat men attractive. Hit the gym, or don’t, I don’t care.
[–]extragouda33 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
When I meet a guy who is overweight and his profile pictures are NOT, it tells me that 1) maybe he's dishonest, and 2) it is medically possible for him to be a healthy weight but for some reason he has not made his health a priority.
Both of these are reasons not to date... no matter how charming their personality.
[–]donttextme_k124 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Literally all her videos are about how as long as you meet the bare minimums, you will find a woman
[–]Tharwaum81 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
She figured out there’s an audience for that trash I guess. Men love to hear that I’m sure! Wonder if she makes much or any money by spreading that um.. worldview
[–]Platipus6115 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
He's so weak I thought he was going to snap his back picking her up.
This is not your sign guys. Don't go for the girl. Just stop. Go to the gym.
[–]herbivorouscarnivore107 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I didn’t get through the entirety of this pick-me’s video. All scrotes believe that women should be racing to f-ck their “sparkling personalities.” This pick-me is doing a disservice to all women by posting this rubbish.
[–]DuchessDurag103 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I hate when pick-me’s shame another woman’s preferences in men.
“Give him a chance” “It’s the inside that counts” “You’re missing out” “Stop being picky” “He’s a great guy”
The fact that men can be brutal when judging a woman’s physical appearance and feel entitled to an attractive woman while they look the opposite tells you everything.
I feel like the girl in the video is pitying the young overweight man than being genuine. Most young women prefer men of similar attractiveness.
It’s also annoying that men are offended by a woman’s preferences in a man. So many scrotes get mad when taller attractive men are what women usually go for.
[–]curlyhaiir78 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
So true!!! The ugliest men go around and call women ugly or make comments about her weight. They don’t see women who they find unattractive as human. There are sooo many TikTok’s I saw recently where chubby women talk about how men ignore them when these girls are out with their skinnier girlfriends. I have never seen women acting the same way, treating a chubby man so disrespectful. We women are just conditioned that men -no matter how unattractive you may find them - deserve a chance and that their personality matters, whereas an unattractive girl is treated like less than trash by men.
[–]DuchessDurag64 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
🤣 I had a male friend who would nitpick and always judge a woman’s appearance. One day he asked for my other friends phone number, so I decided he needs a taste of his own medicine. When he asked about my friends , I told him that he wasn’t their type (he’s balding and short) and that they want hot tall guys 😂😂😂
[–]sleepysiri102 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
In multiple ways, this is just plain BS.
Imagine your partner telling you something along the lines of, “yeah, when we first met I wasn’t attracted to you, but I fell in love with your personality.” Gag. Basically, you’re saying, “you’re ugly but you’re super nice so I tolerate your appearance.”
And that whole men are hardwired to be this and women are hardwired to be that is some primitive pile of shit.
[–]East-Willingness51396 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah that’s why we were all attracted to Jonah hill and not Channing Tatum 🤣
Girl enjoy that weak sweaty many on top of you, I married for a hot guy with a great personality because I’m hot with a great personality. I refuse to downgrade with this pick me bullshit.
[–]misscyansiren54 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Enjoy that weak sweaty man on top of you
😂 dead. But yes to everything you said. This "growing to be attracted to him" mentality encourages overthinking and women to gaslight themselves out of dating the Channing Tatums.
[–]slayeroftruth28 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That attitude is why women divorce men more and one of the reasons why men get dead bed.
[–]NUTELLALOVER9713 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
GOALS!!!! 👌👌👌
[–]capresesalad198512 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ewwwyyyy when I see couples like this that’s all I can think of!!!!! He’s gross flub as he gets tired after a few pounds and then makes her get on top. Get yo self a tripod girl it’s the only way to go!!!
[–]wonkyeyes887758 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's one thing to be attracted to and love someone who isn't considered attractive to many people.
It's another thing to tell men they don't have to take care of themselves, or even be healthy, in order to land a girl.
[–]ShittyPianist57 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
If you flipped the genders around, it's still massively toxic. Could you imagine your man being like, "I fell in love with this one, despite her looks. I know that's not the norm, but it can happen! Girls, aim for any man you want!"
I'd break up with someone on the spot if they tried that shit. You're not winning anything by "dating down" and then "bragging" about it. You're just destroying someone's self confidence.
[–]CroneRaisedMaiden27 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I did this twice I will never do it again
[–]biwinny26 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ah yes, in order to feel genuine affection for us, men must need to deem our bodies worthy of their seed 🥴
Shoot me
[–]DivineGoddess111111124 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That video is just offensive.
[–]ItsFreezen18 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
She's with a Scrote who doesn't like her and most likely gives her a low looks rating. This blob thinks he can do better.
Ohhhhhhmygooooddddddd this is insane. If she’s happy, great. But that dude can’t be healthy. And the reason we have subconscious attraction standards is because we are programmed to be attracted to health. Just like a guy wants a small waist and big hips we are allowed to want big shoulders and a small waist.
[–]UnitedHoney9 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Honestly face wise I think they are on the same lvl but I agree.
[–]spinsterchachkies6 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is fucked up. Why lie to people like this?
[–]Sewud5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is not a new idea. We're bred since we are young to be told "you have to be pretty, and also it's cool if you don't care about the guy's looks". And every time there's a pretty girl with an ugly guy the masses cheer.
There's a reason the body positivity movement is female. Because that's subversive. Saying guys can be fat is not subversive.
[–]W3remaid4 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
The comments are a shitshow as expected. Some scrote whining about:
”the way you women are currently acting is red flags for all men. look how hysterical you are”
“that why divorce rates are so high and when the man is asked, he thought the relationship was fine. women file for divorce far more to boot?”
So women are “hysterical” and emotional, but also secretive and impossible to read to the point where we hide our marital issues from our spouse until the moment of divorce? You’d think hubby would get the hint once his wife started getting “hysterical” ? Lmao, make it make sense 🤡
[–]blackmetalbetty4 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
MeN aRe ViSuAl cReaTurEs
Shit, better call me Bob, then lol
[–]VanessaViews3 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I mean there is a little bit of truth to this. You don't have to be the best looking guy in the room if you actually have a ton of other things going for you personality wise. Problem is most guys just don't... Everything else she said is garbage
[–]One_Bat_25252 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I can’t believe that she’s putting this shitty advice out there! I used to fall for this crap and dated some complete uggos. I remember getting peer pressured into dating a guy that I was not attracted to and it was truly awful. He was overweight, jealous and was just gross in general. We would go out and all he’d do is have his arms around me the whole night as if he was mate guarding. One time he followed me to the bathroom in a club just to wait outside for me because he was so insecure. The thing was, I could never bring myself to sleep with him and only realised why when I noticed myself looking at a guy I felt physically attracted to. I broke it off and decided never to believe this shitty advice again.
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