FDS is NOT about manipulating men into getting into a relationship they don’t want to

CountingDownTheDays5 · 2020-10-11T13:19:35+00:00

FDS is for the betterment of the woman with or without a man. And if she happens to be with a man we push for him to be the best male for her. We do not promote forcing, coercing, and or suggesting men do anything. Be yourself, but remember that self maybe LV. In fact we say you either do or you don't. And if you don't we bounce.

That is what makes these men mad, we are teaching women to leave. Men are so d*mn use to us staying through whatever, whenever, however. But when there is a sub that calls them out, puts the woman first, and demand respect they get upset. They don't have this much rage for incels and they wish death upon women. Many even believe in forced relationships where women have no rights.

ManchurianCantaloupe · 2020-10-11T13:15:13+00:00

"FDS iS aBoUt tRiCkInG mEn iNtO a rElAtIoNsHiP/MaRrIaGe!!!" is one of my favorite smoothbrain insults.

Bro, if we feel like we would have to "trick" you into doing anything, you're just going to get dumped. 😂 Doing your share of domestic/emotional labor, taking care of your physical and emotional well-being, being an attentive, interested, commitment-minded partner... you either are or you aren't. We're not going to waste our precious time trying to fix you.

We don't pursue. We don't set the pace. We absolutely don't propose. How are we "manipulating" you into a relationship you asked for and developed on your own volition? Just how dumb do you think you are?

vmuzondi · 2020-10-11T13:26:39+00:00

I love how they worship their dicks so much they think women would waste time manipulating them to get them to commit. New flash: I didn’t “manipulate” men into dating me before FDS and I definitely won’t be doing that now. I’ll just let the LVM walk right out the door now. No need to waste energy on them.

lluuni · 2020-10-11T14:42:44+00:00

It’s funny because this sub literally teaches women the opposite. Pining after men and trying to beg and manipulate them into loving you is pickme behavior. The biggest rule in this sub is to only date men who show an interest in you and work hard to show their affection.

Sage_Planter · 2020-10-11T13:10:21+00:00

Lol at them. Most of us have been there, with a scrote who didn’t want a healthy relationship. It brought only negative value and this is why this sub keeps growing.

VioletRomantic · 2020-10-11T14:17:54+00:00

Because having others reinforce that I as a human being have value is totally a trick. Because having my experiences validated is just about scoring some dude. Because being told for the first time in my life that I am allowed to have boundries and standards, and that I deserve someone who loves me and treats me as well as I treat them is some huuuuge con to get some dick.

seraphinelysion · 2020-10-11T13:50:37+00:00

Men are simple creatures. They see women unionizing in any way, shape, or form and it's instantly labeled as bad no matter what it is we are banding together for - the right to vote, respect, equality, etc. As soon as women stop putting out and/or putting up with the shit men throw at us, we are instantly labeled as terrible, wrong, coercive, and manipulative. Men who cry foul are just huge manbabies because we took away their favorite toy and won't give it back.

AyemHerself · 2020-10-11T13:50:27+00:00

Not to mention men with good intentions would not be affected by what we do here. All the strategies you see in posts and the handbook are designed to weed out men with mismatched values, intent to deceive, or intent to harm.

A HVM (by our standards) would have no issue with picking up the bill on a date he initiated or treating the woman he cares about well. And I say "by our standards" because there's a lot more nuance involved here than a guy with money.

alanlighthouse · 2020-10-11T15:08:56+00:00

This projection of men onto women about relationships is really toxic. It's also pathetic because these men are deluded into thinking they have something we want and are probably secretly hopeful that a woman would want that thing and try to manipulate them.

Men don't realize how much energy it already takes just to exist and be a goddamn queen, why the FUCK would we then pour the remainder of that energy into a MAN we don't even want?

It makes exactly zero logical sense. Pull your heads out of your asses. We don't want you, we don't want to manipulate you, if you're trash, you're trash.

goatismycopilot · 2020-10-11T13:04:45+00:00

FYI PPD who routinely freak out about FDS and FDS strategies will be having a purge week soon and 99.9 of the men really get off on the idea that it will mortally offend everybody in FDS.

MixWide · 2020-10-11T14:11:30+00:00

Move to sticky this.

The self-stated goal of pick-up artists is seduction, i.e. enticing or persuading women to engage in sexual behavior. Pick-up artists openly use terms like "game" to emphasize the use of tricks and manipulation to extract sex and/or services from women.

The self-stated goal of female dating strategy is to help women set and maintain standards in dating, and to avoid becoming entangled with men who do not meet those standards. The entire "pickme" refrain emphasizes that women should not be focused on persuading men to have relationships, but rather that women should only seek relationships with men who choose to be worthy partners all by themselves.

TL;DR: Female dating strategy is the literal opposite of pick-up artistry.

ello-motto · 2020-10-11T13:45:19+00:00

We literally block and delete as soon as a man doesn't match up to our standards. We ain't got time to manipulate nobody. 😂😂😂

ItsFreezen · 2020-10-11T15:05:30+00:00

FYI. FDS women don't chase you. So what are you all worried about?

EffectiveHoneydew422 · 2020-10-11T13:36:58+00:00

omg thanky ou for putting that so succinctly.

We are not at all 'strategizing' on how to trick and lure and bait and switch and lie and cheat men into our lives. (I mean, if we were that would be hilariously easy..too easy) but we have nothing to gain from that.

I have honestly thought about making a parody female PUA group. But when it comes down to it, the exact same PUA tactics would work on men especially if we were choosing 'targets' based on low self esteem, but we don't because it would be sad and embarrassing for us, and none of us women would brag about doing something so pathetic.

annalog96 · 2020-10-11T15:04:32+00:00

For me, FDS has helped reverse the mass gaslighting of men/society/pickmeishas and validate that everything I saw was totally true and I wasn't going crazy! It made me realise society was sick, not me

gothoneybones · 2020-10-11T14:18:16+00:00

If any sub promotes forcing men to stay in relationships they clearly don't want to be in, they should be raising their pitchforks over relationships and relationship_advice. They're constantly promoting therapy and couple's counseling for women dealing with men who are clearly checked out and uninterested.

circescircus · 2020-10-11T13:43:15+00:00

Strategy after strategy post outlines, in great detail, how you can avoid getting into relationships with low value men. Which is most men.

They have this idea that women are desperate to be in relationships with them. No girl even matches with you or responds to your texts lol, get a grip asshats. No one believes your clown universe bullshit.

And they know-- the only types of women who are desperate to get into a relationship with any man with 2 arms and 2 legs-- are not the ones they want.

Male lurkers-- get a grip before it's too late to redeem yourself or your life.

rightioushippie · 2020-10-11T13:52:36+00:00

The fact they think we would benefit from being in partnership with someone who doesn’t want to be a partner shows us how low we really are on the totem pole to them. They sincerely think we benefit from association with a man no matter how fucked that man is.

feminologie_ · 2020-10-11T15:48:54+00:00

According to these braindead scrotes I must have manipulated every guy who approached ME and expressed his interest in ME out of his own free will? I literally mind my own business and men come out of the woodwork. I don't have to manipulate anyone for anything lol. These scrotes are delusional.

FDS is teaching us how to filter out low value men who are bad for us and will offer nothing positive to our lives. FDS teaches us to value ourselves and respect ourselves FIRST and put our own well being before a man. If a man is hurting us or dragging us down, FDS teaches us to leave his ass. FDS is EMPOWERING WOMEN. It is teaching us to stop being a victim, to see bad men for what they really are and remove them from our lives instead of wishing and hoping the will change some day. Because they won't. FDS is tough a sisterhood, we look out for one another because we know men do NOT have our best interests at heart! If you are a man and this offends you, you are the EXACT type of man we're trying to avoid!!

AFineDogMom · 2020-10-11T12:53:32+00:00

👏👏👏

daisy_0720 · 2020-10-11T17:36:48+00:00

LMAO at these men flattering themselves that they're worth 'manipulating' into a relationship. Listen up buckos: We don't want you. The second you expose your ass to be LV, we toss you right back in the trash can where you belong. Ain't no queen here fighting to keep your grubby dick in her life.

thepastamancer · 2020-10-11T14:16:00+00:00

My partner tells me (and anyone who asks) that im the perfect partner for him, the best thing that ever happened to him, and the love of his life.

Because if you're a genuinely mature adult man capable of caring about people besides yourself, then a woman with strong boundaries and a sense of self is appealing, not threatening.

Its men who can't fathom not manipulating their partner who think FDS is all about tricking them. They have no other way to relate to a partner and can't imagine it for anyone else.

ThatGirl60 · 2020-10-11T16:31:03+00:00

They want us to be so badly like them. To need them. To validate their sexual existence. To fuck them. They can’t possibly conceive that we have no problems letting them be.

Solaresa · 2020-10-11T21:37:58+00:00

FDS: If a man isn't enriching and improving your life, you shouldn't be with that man.

Men: I cannot believe this level of misandry!

MBBchick · 2020-10-11T13:31:45+00:00

For FDS to work on a guy...he has to be willing. Can't see where the manipulation would fit in even if we tried 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sabrinacolada · 2020-10-11T14:07:51+00:00

This needs to be stickied.

fim_de_semana · 2020-10-11T13:31:29+00:00

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pencilbride2B · 2020-10-11T20:20:26+00:00

FDS is NOT about using men, or using some weird strategy to win or coerce men.

Its about women learning its okay to be alone, that external validation is not that important and self-love and self-care is important!

JiltedGroupie · 2020-10-12T00:04:09+00:00

Since outsiders like to focus on the “men should pay on dates” tenet of this dub, I’ll focus on that to further illustrate another way that FDS is nothing like PUA.
If we acted like PUA in here, the “men pay on dates” thing would just be part of our plan. Part two would be to go on as many dates as possible, with any man out there, to get as many free meals as possible, with no intention of continuing the relationship beyond just getting our free food. (I mean that’s basically how PUA are about sex right?)
But no, we don’t behave like that here. Time and time again we are telling each other to be extremely picky, screen 99% of guys out. Filter, screen, filter, screen. So that by the time we actually say “yes” to a date, we are reasonably sure he’s a HVM worth considering.
PUA does not teach this type of choosiness to men. It is not the same at all!

AnneRB13 · 2020-10-11T15:41:18+00:00

FDS is NOT about manipulating men into getting into a relationship they don’t want to

Is about giving women the tools to get out of bad relationships or know how to avoid one.

2020-10-11T17:28:03+00:00

Don’t ever try to explain anything that benefits women to LV men.

2020-10-11T14:51:18+00:00

QUEEN SIS RIGHT HERE!

Leavix · 2020-10-11T16:41:19+00:00

Exactly. It's manipulating yourself so you don't get in a relationship YOU don't want

Maude2010 · 2020-10-12T00:46:04+00:00

Exactly. If you meet a man you like, and he’s not texting or he doesn’t follow up after a date, FDS will tell you to delete his number and move on. We don’t want men who don’t want to be with us. There is nothing in FDS about manipulating or ensnaring men. If they’re not feeling it, we wish them well and forget about them.

Gourmay · 2020-10-11T16:39:28+00:00

Had someone just yesterday in the /vegan sub tell me we were an incel terf sub. Dafuq.

JiltedGroupie · 2020-10-11T23:57:40+00:00

Yes! Yes! Yes! I say this all the time! I hate when we are considered “the female equivalent” of pickup artistry. We’re like “no, sis... put him back down and walk away.”

2020-10-11T13:00:29+00:00

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Title	FDS is NOT about manipulating men into getting into a relationship they don’t want to
Author	fim_de_semana
Upvotes	1327
Comments	120
Date	October 11, 2020 12:51 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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