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[β]whatifimthedovahkiin 438 points439 points440 points 7 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link
"Every battle is won before it is ever fought "
-Sun Tzu
[β]MajorSagg 22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure, but I'm fairly certain this was scripted+faked, so it literally was won before it was fought :)
[β]89peters[S] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if what you claim is true -- it still perfectly describes the crazy attitudes of gender studies majors.
[β]Greg_W_Allan 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but I'm fairly certain this was scripted+faked
I am too. I've seen a number of variants over several years.
Feminists really don't need much help.
Closer to home - for myself at least - it's only a couple of years since the old guard, feminist CEO of the very large local rape crisis service took a shock early retirement after embarrassing herself and her ideology in front of her board of management.
Never interrupt etc.
[+]TherapyFortheRapy -17 points-16 points-15 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
TYou're a redditor. You're fairly certain anything that makes feminists look bad is scripted and fake. It's how you preserve your delicate ideological belief that your side is pure and good in the face of a thousand Sarah Jeongs and Amanda Marcottes.
Edit: nothing says brigader like downvoting for citicism of feminists.
[β]Liulfr 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
^This right here is why we never get taken seriously and are labeled as sexists.
Yes officer, this comment right here.
[β]theAnalepticAlzabo 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
'takes us seriously' madlibs??!!!! Fuckin' LOVE this game!! Ok ok, my turn!!
[NOUN] is the reason that [APPROVAL GROUP] doesn't take us seriously!!!
[β]Liulfr 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[You] are the reason [anyone] doesn't take you seriously.
[β]MajorSagg 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm fairly certain this is scripted and fake because I saw this years ago on iFunny, and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows that nothing on iFunny is genuine.
Also the person that posted this admitted it(elsewhere in the comments) wasn't real/intended to be comic relief, a sort of break from all the serious discussions on the subreddit.
Your desperation is making you grasp at straws that aren't there and all the genuine points/arguments suffer and look weaker because of you.
[β]MajorSagg 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You got downvoted because you don't have basic reading comprehension.
[+]TibortheChechen -52 points-51 points-50 points 7 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
How does this apply to the exchange????
[β]Hannyu 98 points99 points100 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's from Sun Tzu's Art of War. The woman was defeated from the moment she made that bad claim.
[β][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a deterministic claim. If you know all the variables and parameters of a situation, you can accurately predict any outcome. So, in theory, you can know who is going to win any battle if you know how to study the situation. You don't have to wait until the end of the battle to know who won.
[β]TheHawk71 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I reason to downvote a question. Maybe this cat didnβt have a clue who Sun Tzu is.
[β]PMmepicsofyourtits 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Heβs the one that gathered two of every animal, right?
[β]BrotherManard 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's the ol' Reddit dogpile.
[β]Mr-Zero-Fucks 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Reddit mob always win
[β]LateralThinker13 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"The only way to win is not to play."
[β]TibortheChechen 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh that cat does know who he is. Has known for at least 40 years. He just wanted to know how it applied to that exchange.
[β]TheMythof_Feminism -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Every battle is won before it is ever fought " -Sun Tzu
Also Sora from No Game No Life.
Well, more like that's where Sora got it from.
[β]Dr_Goodwood 191 points192 points193 points 7 years ago (54 children) | Copy Link
Thats fucking awesome! I work at a technology company, they have a push to hire women. When i was in school 99% of the students in computer science are men. Women are out looking for men to support them maybe. I cant think of a reason why a woman wouldnt go i to computer science, it pays very well. As a woman you would get hired right away, because of stupid policies to balance the work force, whether youare the best qualified or not.
[β]HeroWords 143 points144 points145 points 7 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
Women are out looking for men to support them maybe. I cant think of a reason why a woman wouldnt go i to computer science
It's well documented that temperamental differences make women more interested in "people" jobs like nursing and men more interested in "thing" jobs like software development.
We know exactly why it happens, that's the thing. People who cry oppression either haven't found out, or don't want to.
[β]chinawinsworlds 85 points86 points87 points 7 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
And in the most equal countries in the world, such as Norway where I live, you find the genders choosing the traditional careers more so than anywhere else. Equal opportunity = very unequal result. And that's good.
[β]HeroWords 40 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Yep, I know firsthand that if you can sit down a feminist and explain to them how occupational gender differences maximize in progressive societies you can blow their mind. It goes directly against a lot of what they think they know about the world.
[β]chinawinsworlds 40 points41 points42 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Believe it or not, but when money isn't the most important factor, women actually don't want to work as a plumber! Or electrician! Who woulda thunk?! Nursing is apparently more suitable for them? What?!
[β]bradgard420 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Tbf nurses deal with a lot of nasty shit as a nurse. Perhaps just as much as a plumber.
[β]chinawinsworlds 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Well, yeah. It's nasty as FUCK! But it appeals to women's nature and therefore it's overall satisfying!
[β][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Which one pays more?
[β]chinawinsworlds 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
In my country? Probably plumbing, because many plumbers work privately. Almost all nurses here work for the government, and we don't pay huge wages for safe work like that.
In America? Idk.
[β]Key_Lime 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In America, you can probably make more than a nurse as a plumber, depending on how hard you work and how motivated you are to make more money. A lot of good honest blue collar work is shunned here so there is always a scarcity of plumbers and electricians. If you are the only game in town you can almost name your own price and get it.
[+][deleted] -13 points-12 points-11 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I'm not American.
In the U.K. A non-private plumber earns on average Β£30k For a nurse, an equivalent job in your opinion, makes a maximum of Β£28k
It just winds me a little when this kind of injustice isn't recognised and is shrugged off. Don't think I'm having a go at you, I'm not finger pointing. I was only highlighting that we just accept women in society have lower wages for equivalent jobs.
[β]Hirfin 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thing is, you can stuff a plunger up a hole to stop it from spewing shit everywhere LEGALLY in one, where as the other...
Well technically you can in both, but I ain't a plumber.
[β]Hanzo44 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ya, but nursing has emotional reward. Plumbing doesn't.
[β]bradgard420 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You consider wiping some super dirty ,entitled, baby boomers ass is emotionally rewarding?
[β]kratbegone 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No but helping people get better sure does.
[β]AKnightAlone 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Feels like I'm listening to Jordan Peterson over here.
[β]HeroWords 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Learned a lot though him, and he's so efficient in his speech that it's hard to repeat something he said in a way that's very different. Without taking away from it, that is.
[β]AKnightAlone 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm very far Left in most of my values, but I think JP is a great voice for logic and truth in areas that are normally ignored by the Left. Of course, I believe both halves tend to have glaring areas of ignorance.
[β]HeroWords 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, completely.
[β][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And we reached equal opportunity, in the western world anyway, a good 30-40+ years ago.
But that wasn't good enough. Then you started to hear "why does a woman make less doing the same job as a man?" and that became a rallying cry.
And how men were systematically holding women back. If you look at the EU, and of course the UK in particular, they are naming and shaming men into taking pay cuts.
That rally cry turned into, all men and women are equal, therefore every hour of work a woman does, is equal to that of a man. Notice they never mention fashion or modeling, where it is skewed in women's favor; nor do they mention 98% of construction jobs are held by men.
They want equality in the board rooms, not in the "dirty" jobs those "men" should be performing anyway.
So now it is equality of results. "I voted for Hillary because she was a woman"; you hear that pretty often here in the states. Makes me want to blow my brains out. I voted for Barrack Obama because he was an articulate and well spoken individual.
It seems those most interested in being fragile are the ones always speaking out about how fragile their condition is.
[+]originalSpacePirate -14 points-13 points-12 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
And its proven time and again that women that do end up in STEM are miserable and end up leaving. Either with the excuse of "spending more time with the family" (translation: being a couch bison and have hubby pay the bills) or "the field isnt rewarding and im underpaid" (translation: this work is way harder than i can cope with and want an easy job instead). STEM is hard as fuck, it'll grind you down to the bone and consume most of your waking life. There is a reason its so highly paid, women simply dont understand this
[β]HeroWords 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah man, you just don't like women. And I'm anti-feminist as fuck.
If you're confused about the gap between what I was saying and what you decided to add, I was just relaying what's been scientifically found through studies. You were giving your personal interpretation of whatever anecdotal experiences you've had. With an attitude that speaks volumes.
[β]girraween 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mate, perfectly said!
[β]What_Is_X 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I work in STEM (along with women I might add) and it's anything but a grind. Every day is different and I love it. Women are not somehow incapable of doing my job as a consequence of lacking a Y chromosome.
[β]azzaranda 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, no... You're just sexist and brought hate and emotion to a logical discussion. People like you aren't welcome here. Don't blame others just because you have a shitty mindset and hate yourself.
[β]j-dawg-94 -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Maybe women do understand this and that's why STEM is undesirable to them? Lol?
[β]originalSpacePirate -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Then why the huge push for women in STEM? If it's understandable, women are the most vocal about getting other women into STEM so i would strongly disagree
[β]Ted8367 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
why the huge push for women in STEM?
I've often wondered about this myself. Maybe because it's seen as well paid, safe, physically undemanding, and a growth area. And maybe because big employers in the area are looking for large supplies of workers (and therefore lower wages) and see women as an untapped resource.
translation: this work is way harder than i can cope with and want an easy job instead). STEM is hard as fuck,
It is. But I suspect that "caring" jobs are hard too. All work is harder than not working, so it helps to be interested in what you do; and the sexes have different interests.
[β]Mackowatosc 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And yet, despite all the perks, women dont seem to both get into, and stick to, said STEM, that much.
I have several women in the company. They rotate like mad. few months to a year tops. After that its either "i wanna be a home mommy" or "ive got a grreeeeat job at a nail saloon! half time, shitty pay, but sooo great friendly gals work there!" type of leaving talk.
Not counting the ones that were found...not good enough, diplomatically speaking, by the company, and let go after a month or so. Usually most vocal "im too good for you, and you dont pay me enough!" bunch.
Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. But Ive got my guess.
[β]Ted8367 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
despite all the perks, women dont seem to both get into, and stick to, said STEM, that much.
I think that most of them aren't all that interested. The ones that are, a minority, tend to stay.
[β]Merit_based_only -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes- getting OTHER women into STEM. Not themselves- others.
[β]tanenbaum 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I worked for a large software company as a student, where HR told me that they only wanted student programmers with a bachelor's degree. Well, except for the multiple girls they hired that year that hadn't completed the B.Sc. yet. Here in Denmark girls actually dominate some STEM studies like pharmacology but there is absolutely no effort to make it a more including environment for men. On the other hand, there's a lot of support for women at computer science studies.
[β]NibblyPig 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Makes you wonder why nobody has said that - "Why aren't all these incentives working?!?!? Could we be wrong about the systematic oppression of women?!"
[β]boxsterguy 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You still have to make it through the degree if you want to get hired, and CS and other STEM degrees are not exactly known for being easy. It's less a matter of being smart enough or being capable of doing the work, but more that you've got to love doing it if you want to make it through. The pay is good, but not good enough to suffer through something you hate, only to then have to do that something you hate for the next 3-4 decades.
I don't know what the current dropout rates are, but back when I was in school (sigh ... 20+ years ago) my graduating CS class was approximately 10% of what it was incoming freshman year. And that was during the dotcom boom years, where internet millionaires were being made left and right. The promise of that money (which it turns out was a false promise, as we found out when the boom went bust in 2000) still wasn't enough for 90% of the people who started the program, the work was that grueling. I can't imagine it's much different now. If anything it's likely even harder, given the increase in university attendance and competition for spots in programs.
[β]aerovado 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Our IS/IT department of 30 people with 4 females just hire 5 more females. We all looked around like "where did they get these women?" Either they're way over paying them or we just got some shitty employees for the sake of diversity.
[β]Ijatsu 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I was in CS engineer school, only 10% were women. None of these 10% were actually interested in CS they just wanted technical background and then go management ASAP.
The other fields of the engineer school had more women. And they often made fun of CS for being a field full of obese neckbeards or socially inapt nerds.
Seemed to me that women weren't interested in the field, and that the rampant misandry was the main reason why women wouldn't go there.
[β][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately you're right, they will hire any woman regardless of ability. My ex had a music Major and was hired into IT for a national company, and during the time I was with her she was totally clueless about everything but kept getting raises and promotions. Her boss was even more clueless.
Meanwhile I was working for a small computer shop doing 10x more work (but gaining more experience) making $10/hr.
They would never hire me and kept hiring more women.
[β]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Companies that hire like that will eventually put themselves out of business. I say let em so it. Just be sure to not cover for your "superiors" overwhelming lack of ability.
[β]Dr_Goodwood 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So untrue, I work for one of the leading companies in IT, and I dont really forsee them going out of business anytime. They have come right out and said they are looking to hire more women, in all positions even management. Mean while some qualified person may not get hired or will lose their job. Itβs pathetic, and discrimination. Women just have louder organizations and voices to force stuff like this. Men need to get there shit together.
[β]Mackowatosc 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In IT, you need to actually do your job, tho.
[β]Dr_Goodwood 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha, how naive is that statement? look at all the examples above where they lack the skills to do the job, and im sure countless other examples could be brought out from others.
[β]ManInTheMirruh 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hahahahahahhahahahahhhahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha. I have seen so many folks who know nothing and do nothing, fall their way into the industry. I only laugh because of how mad I am.
[β]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
at least at my company, those are weeded out within a month tops. Zero tolerance policy just works.
[β]alfredo094 78 points79 points80 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
"There should be more women in STEM fields!"
-Women in social sciences.
Also, I agree with another poster: we are better than these dumb memes.
[+]QuasisLogic1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
We need more men in womenβs studies so that women canβt get into it and are forced into a better area.
[β]Hadashi_blacksky 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As long as they don't turn into... male feminists.
[β]c_w_o_o_l_l_y 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Especially since this one is clearly faked.
[β]theboxman154 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And an incredibly old joke to probably anyone in this sub
[β]chambertlo 198 points199 points200 points 7 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
She chose gender studies because it isnβt based in science, itβs easy as fuck, and it centralizes in what women care most about, themselves.
She would never have made it past the STEM field orientation.
[β][deleted] 166 points167 points168 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Almost certainly true if that's her mindset. My ex was a statistics major that ended up switching to Sociology (eyeroll) because she "totally loved it", but I always knew it was because it was easy as shit. Her finals week was a finals "day before the final" where she brushed up on some opinion-based books that incestuously drew studies from one another as proof of their bullshit, made fun of me for having to study like crazy (I was an Information Systems and Networking major), and ate ice cream on the couch.
Best part is I know for a fact her Masters-level education pays less after 6 years of working for one place than I made in my first job right off the bat, but hey...wage gap, amirite?
[β]chambertlo 35 points36 points37 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love everything about what you posted. Long live the patriarchy!!!
[β]FadingEcho 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
brushed up on some opinion-based books that incestuously drew studies from one another as proof of their bullshit
Okay, I've said in the past that sociology is the Flat Earth society of science and has long since given up on fact. I took a few criminology courses which mostly skirts but often enough takes deep dives into Flat Earth Sociology. There's a contrived profoundness when you're a know-nothing mush-brain but when you apply a bit of critical thinking and want to know where these facts come from, shit goes south very quick.
What was the control in this experiment? uh...a study that said middle class whites something something.
[β]Mackowatosc 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
obviously, patriarchy made her suffer for her choices! /s
[β]NibblyPig 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He was just handed the better paying job for being a man! I can't believe the privilege!
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So they're making themselves dumber the more they study? Interesting...
[+]Razjir -8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cringe
[β][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey, she spent tens of thousands on a degree that I have no clue what it qualifies for. Maybe police since places just want a degree, but degree related field I have no clue
[β]TracyMorganFreeman 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It qualifies you to teach gender studies.
So, it's just a cycle of puking the same stuff
[β]Zambito1 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
it centralizes in what women care most about; themselves.
That describes literally everyone though. If you don't care most about yourself, you have your priorities messed up and you're probably going to be unhappy (with the exception of prioritizing a child).
I'm a man, I'm on /r/MensRights because I care about myself.
[β]NibblyPig 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Think he means stoking your own ego / feeding your victim complex to get validation via sympathy
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you know what he means, man
[β]McDudeston 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just thought I'd let you know, you used a semicolon where you should have used a colon.
[β]chambertlo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you. Corrected.
[β]curlyconscience 50 points51 points52 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I was pulled off stage for questioning why minorities and women gravitate toward the social sciences instead of pursuing stem fields or more educationally intensive fields. I was one of the few women in my accounting major who stuck it out and took it seriously. A lot just run when they decide it isn't easy. Women often take the path of least resistance if they can then bitch about it later.
[β]Rolten 30 points31 points32 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Women often take the path of least resistance if they can then bitch about it later.
Some women*. Let's not so generally discredit an entire gender.
[β]curlyconscience 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I apologize. I'm just not a fan of women as a woman. My prejudice colored my statement. I apologize.
[β]MaxStout808 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Important edit.
[+]saxn00b1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Havenβt you read? Thatβs the point of this entire subreddit
[β]cknight18 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of people on here have just had bad experiences with feminists (mostly women), and sometimes it comes out as a negative stereotype on women. We should police ourselves on it and call each other out, but that doesn't mean the whole purpose of the subreddit is to "shit talk women."
[β]Rolten 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not at all. I'm all for men's rights but I don't think that's the same thing as discrediting women. More often than I'd like you do run across some misogyny here which is a real shame.
[β]KidCoheed 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Real question, do you think some women who do quit harder fields of study, do so because of the pressure or intensity of study but blame the hardness of the field on misogyny?
Like "My teacher was a Misogynist, if not he wouldn't have given me X test"
[β]chinawinsworlds 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Without a doubt the difficulty. Many people in general drop stem studies when they understand it's not comparable in difficulty to any subject they had in school beforehand.
[β]MasterDex 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it's not just women. In my Software Engineering course, we had a common first year for that exact reason that only gave an introductory course to the different fields of study. The year started with around 100 students and ended with about 80. By the end, the numbers ended up being like 20 for software engineering and 10 for Systems Administration with the Networking path cancelled due to lack of interest.
It's not that STEM fields are particularly challenging either. Sure there's some tough concepts to get your head around but I think the biggest barrier for entry is genuine interest. You can't make it in many STEM courses if you don't have a genuine interest and like for the work you do.
[β]curlyconscience 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my experience it's often difficulty that discourages further study in stem fields. You get the rare outliers who go the distance but it's often the difficulty that bars women from advancing further in fields of their choice or the time investment necessary to advance. And then they blame it all on misogyny to make themselves look better in their new sociology classes.
[β]TracyMorganFreeman 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a chemical engineer. My class started about 40% female. By graduation it was 20%.
Whether it be interest, ability, or ease, women simply leave more. There was a ton of support and acknowledgement of women faculties and students, so anyone who thinks it's misogyny is probably just assuming it is, or thinks random complaints are representative (which if they had taken an actual statistics class would know that's not how it works).
[β]goodmod[M] 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is a needlessly blurry graphic that's difficult to read.
Copy or save the image from the original page, or take a screenshot. Then use a free tool like IrfanView to crop it. Then save as PNG or GIF so it is clear and easy to read and copy.
[β]gypsywizard72 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Make me
Edit: just kidding don't ban pls
[β][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry, this isn't r/TwoXChromosomes
I've heard somewhere that this was scripted+faked so it's probably a hand-me-down meme. Would explain the image quality too.
[β]thom430 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's always too few women in STEM, never too few in production jobs, construction, logistics and all the other shitty sectors.
Really makes you think π€
[β]toddmalm 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, gender activists are funny for that. They're always talking about how there needs to be more women in such and such a field, but yet the women who state that are always studying psychology, women and gender studies, criminology, or sociology.
"We need more female mechanics!!"
So become a fucking mechanic then? Oh right, you don't want to. You want to be an Instagram model.
[β]RaynEly 67 points68 points69 points 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
We're better than these dumb memes
[β]89peters[S] 112 points113 points114 points 7 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
This sub is 90 percent negative news about discrimination against men and boys. A little humor is fine now and again.
[β]RaynEly 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm all for humor, r/MensRightsMemes should be a thing
[+]ArrestedDevelopments1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
It is now just in case. How do I link it back here?
[β]JaredTheWolfy 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
... /r/MensRightsMemes
[+]ArrestedDevelopments1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean, if people were to click that link, that it automatically comes to /r/MensRights
[β]JaredTheWolfy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are you on about?
[β]YinzHardAF -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No it doesn't...
[+]NecroHexr -8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i mean, between repetitive negative news, the reposted positive news, and memes, there isn't much to go on in this sub lmao
[+]RaynEly -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure, but maybe repost it?
[β][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not a meme.
[β]RaynEly -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Via Google, a meme is "an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.
a humorous image, video, piece of text, etc., that is copied (often with slight variations) and spread rapidly by Internet users"
But I see your side of it
[β]Wai-Sing 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Genuine question: Is this a meme if the conversation was real? Are the conversation and image fake?
[β]RaynEly 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on how broadly you want to use the term meme I guess.
[β]DaveFoSrs 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Image is fake
[β]TherapyFortheRapy 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh look, another concern troll to block.
[β]RaynEly -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say I'm a troll, but I understand your concern.
[β]the_F_bomb 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Be the change you want to see"
[β]cajunrevenge 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
its probably the opposite. I imagine if your a woman in a STEM field you pretty much get your pick of jobs. Go to an interview and you see a female applying you might as well go home.
[β]NibblyPig 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just ask them what misogyny they experienced that stopped them going into STEM, and if that misogyny didn't exist which field they'd have liked to have become involved in.
[β]Reptilian_Brain_420 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"well, I had to work twice as hard just to get noticed"...
[β][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a fair amount in this thread suggesting anything in stem would be too hard for them.
[β]tenchineuro 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Touche.
[β]horillagormone 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Didn't they change it to STEAM now?
[β]Toryist 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Instead of getting a degree to point out the problem, she could have gotten a degree to be part of the solution.
[β]TheMythof_Feminism 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
REKT
I get that this is probably fake but it's still amusing.
How to end gender discrimination in the STEM fields: Women's studies is now a STEM subject.
[+]SoylentGreyGoo1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a pretty stupid argument. It makes the guy look like a loser who thinks he just went beast mode on her and totally owned that debate.
[β]89peters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, he owned the debate. Indeed.
[β]jacksleepshere 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The first reply to all "there aren't enough women in stem fields." Should be, "why aren't you?" The answer is never "because nobody will hire me." It is always "because I don't want to."
[β]Sonic-Oj 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This isn't really a good argument.
Wanting STEM fields to be friendlier toward women doeant mean you should have a obligation to enter STEM.
[β]Gambizzle 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But their point is that women as a whole (rather than them personally) are missing out as a result. Not saying I necessarily agree but IMO it's pretty petty using such logic and making a personal attack rather than engaging with the topic at hand.
[β]Odysseus_is_Ulysses 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But the point is that if women went into the field, thereβs be more women in the field. In this day and age thereβs a lot less stopping a woman from going into whatever field she wants
[β]ExpendableOne 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would argue that cultural misandry, sexism, female entitlement and toxic femininity are the inherent reasons as to why there are so few women in stem, no misogyny. Women are not excluded from STEM. If anything, men in STEM are lonely and desperate have more women around. It is women's prejudices against men, or more specifically nerdy/unmasculine men, that is incentivizing them to not only stay out of STEM but actively vilify it as well.
[β]NhlProShawn 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Burrnnnn. It's true though. Even as a man if I went to college I could of if I wanted to but I didn't because I decided I just wanted a regular job, beats any job you can get from women studies.
[β]SaggyDagger 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/murderedbywords
[β]littlefilms 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We need more men in child care!
[β]bhphilosophy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Godder
Clearly missimterpreted.
[β]DanoLock 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What would you do with a gender studies degree? Career ways...
Answer to every test question is men are awful...
[β]LeanMrfuzzles 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
teach gender studies
[β]Elfere 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I must have seen this pic 20 times now.
Never gets old.
There should be more men in womens studies...
there isn't enough blank1 in blank2!
then why don't you do blank2, you are a blank1?
...
[β]jimmywiddle 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol
[β][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be frank, she, as a woman, could have answered the last question: I told you already. (I'm not saying it's a good answer but, within the context she set, the guy's comeback is stupid. It's not a very good meme.)
[β]Imnotmrabut -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's only fair. Odd too how they were raising this issue so recently on Twitter.π
[β]Zsoltika1 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She should have seen the truth train comming
[+]spoofy129 -21 points-20 points-19 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
/r/thathappened
[β]89peters[S] 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Heh, it literally happens every day: feminist professors who avoided STEM like the plague because they had no interest in those fields portraying misogyny as the culprit for gender disparities.
If you think OP is somehow an unlikely occurrence you obviously haven't spent much time around gender studies graduates.
[+]spoofy129 -12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So use evidence instead of shitty memes that didnβt happen.
[β]Sturmp 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
except it did. Look at the picture. If it didnβt, it still wouldnβt be r/thathappened it would be r/untrustworthypoptarts
[+]Greecl -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
"Haha fuck gender studies women bad"
You fuckers are satires of yourself. Get a life.
[β]89peters[S] 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
women bad
Lemme guess, gender studies graduate? ;)
[β]Greecl 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, although I do study sociology and biology.
[β]Ardeiles 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You study sociology but youβre post history makes it seem like you have contemplated suicide many times. Are you ok? (As a serious question)
[β]Greecl 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm doing all right now. I have depression and a history of trauma, so sometimes it gets veey hard to live my life; the suicide attempts were low points. I'm seeing a good counselor now and I recently quit drinking. Thanks for you concern, and take care.
[β]Ardeiles 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thatβs good, you too!
[β]Gambizzle -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah there's legit men's rights discussions out there but this isn't one of them.
[β]Zepherite 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is it not a legitimate concern that men as a gender are being blamed for the choices some women make of their own volition?
And is it not a legitimate concern that those who are making the accusations have huge influence in media, educational institutions, and government?
As someone who believes that all people should be treated equally, regardless of race or gender, I feel these are absolutely legitimate concerns as there are people playing identity politics today who absolutely do not support treating people equally on the far left (and the far right too, but they're pretty powerless right now).
[+]XXLButtPlug -9 points-8 points-7 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
That doesnβt really address the first argument...
[β]bufedad 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Women who don't want to go into STEM complaining about the lack of women in STEM... or very effectively addresses the first point.
[β]XXLButtPlug -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
So you are saying itβs not misogyny that causes lack of women in STEM, but rather women choosing not to be in STEM?
[β]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
it's not misogyny that causes women to choose Gender Studies over STEM. STEM is hard. You have to prove you know what you're doing. Gender Studies doesn't require any proof. Feelings are enough.
[β]XXLButtPlug -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So you are saying, itβs because women choose to be in STEM less?
[β]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I think that's pretty obvious.
[β]XXLButtPlug -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why?
[β]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do I think it's pretty obvious that with every program pushing women into STEM and with a major hiring advantage (including pay advantage) for just being a woman in STEM (not a skilled woman in STEM, just being there), that women aren't choosing STEM because they want to?
Or are you asking why women who didn't want to go into STEM complaining about women not going into STEM makes it obvious it's a choice?
[β]XXLButtPlug -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The first.
[β]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Them not choosing STEM as a major is a clear example of women not wanting to choose STEM as a major.
[β]MaxStout808 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Epic bait.
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We need more men in womenβs studies so that women canβt get into it and are forced into a better area.
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Havenβt you read? Thatβs the point of this entire subreddit
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It is now just in case. How do I link it back here?
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I mean, if people were to click that link, that it automatically comes to /r/MensRights
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This is a pretty stupid argument. It makes the guy look like a loser who thinks he just went beast mode on her and totally owned that debate.
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