The wage gap you've mentioned is a myth. The homeless stats you mentioned are wrong. There are not 300 MILLION homeless people in the USA. That's the total population. If you look at your own source there are more men in homeless shelters than women and that is not even counting homeless people who are not in shelters.
So as you've said, you don't have to make shit up, making shit up weakens your point.
How many wars were women allowed combat positions for? Fault women because men are better at killing themselves? More men die in a male-dominated industry? It's like someone filtered for highly disproportionate statistics without even thinking about context. Shit post
If said women can pass the physical tests at the same level men do I'm all fucking for it. The issue is that women are given more lenient requirements to join the army and go to combat. If I was injured on the front line as a big 6'3 200+ pound male, I would not trust a female to be able to carry me back to safety. Call me a sexist all you want, but the average man is physically much stronger than the average woman.
Okay well then you can't argue that it's unfair that men have more dangerous positions. The strongest 10% of females are barely stronger (if they are at all) than the weakest men. If you expect women to have the same baseline strength as men (or work exponentially harder than men have to to get to the same level of strength) then you're going to have a much lower percentage of women.
If a man can carry 10 boxes at a time and a woman can only carry 5 who should get paid more? Has nothing to do with supply and demand at all. Obviously this is a specific situation but the general idea can be applied to most trades.
Point is if men can't complain about women taking less dangerous jobs just because they're women then women can't complain about being paid less for doing less work.
Just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean I need to "get a grip" take your condescending shit elsewhere.
At least you acknowledge one obviously shit statistic. Many women want to fight for their country just as much as men so this is one of those awkward instances where r/men's rights agrees with feminism. Working in a dangerous industry is a choice so if men feel threatened by the job then just don't work it. Can women control if they are killed? I'd agree with your conclusion if half the statistics weren't so bad to the point of being adversarial
Most men don't want to do a whole lot of jobs and take factory work over it. Men can be a secretary if they want or a clerk or they can go to school to be a nurse or a hairdresser. Maybe the issue is with the idea of masculinity causing these issues not some half-assed sarcastic joke saying male privlage. Men have a higher suicide rate but women have the much higher rate of asking for help and seeking preventative services. This post is pure number porn.
Maybe the issue is with the idea of masculinity causing these issues
Men being men is not an "issue" and masculinity is not a bad thing. Just like women choosing to raise a family instead of pursuing a career aren't making a "wrong" decision. The point of this graphic is to illustrate that men have problems too, and talking about privilege is stupid. Feminists don't get to bitch about "muh wage gap" while they work a safe office job doing clerical work.
So when are you going to THANK male "patriarchal" bastards for providing you with safe birth control and abortion? Never? I thought so ;)
You're scum. You hate men due to envy but you deny the obvious fact that men have always worked toward trying to help women. Because men are -- shock of shocks -- decent, kind, caring human beings.
One thing you SHOULD recognize -- your hatred of males bleeds over into hatred of girls. Little girls do not have magical armor, and indeed it turns out that little girls suffer just as much from feminism as little boys. Remember that, as you go about your idiotic crusade, in which you attempt to deny girls contact with their fathers. To re-iterate -- YOU are the bad guy here, not anyone on this thread. The statistical data demonstrates that conclusively.
And many dangerous jobs are mostly impossible for women. Women aren't often allowed to be in combat. The fact of the matter is that a lot of women aren't physically strong enough to work on oil rigs and things like that.
The point of the image is that "male privilege", like having a higher average income, is earned. A job that can kill you pays more than being a hairdresser or some other safe job women are more likely to fill. The entire point of the image is to shut up the whiny feminists bitching about male privilege.
But they also could correlate. For example men who commit homocide will lose custody of their child. The argument of this poster is ridiculous both ways and doesn't do justice to illuminating legitimate mens issues, it's just whiny.
So are you are such a weakling that you won't stand up for you think is right?
Let's find out: prediction: you are a pussy, and won't do anything to stand up for male rights. Am I wrong? No, I don't think so. You're a pussy ergo you won't stand up for male rights. That's not exactly a controversial subject. You are a coward, ergo etc. you are a pussy.
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I fixed this fucking graphic YEARS ago. Doesn't matter, the quality of the image posted at reddit continues to degrade beyond legibility.
Fucking HOMOCIDE.
JFC reddit.
https://i.imgur.com/yT7i1AQ.jpg
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But how much less likely to be murdered with a knife?
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Show me the way, sensei.
I upload a .png to imgur, it compresses it to .jpg, I share the link.
Still it is not good enough.
I will kill myself now.
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Do I look like I know what a Jay peg is?
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Yeah I hate it so much I fixed it like 5 years ago, but it still keeps getting posted, more and more compressed over the years...
9gag pls
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Hmmmmmmmmm?
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hey its me ur ded
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You have anything concrete that happens enough to affect stats?
Or are you going off of feelings?
Cause a few random cases isn't enough to impact it considering it happens to men too.
I'll assume too, you're going off of feelings.
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Do you actually say that to people? Trying to assert yourself as an authority is not a great start to a conversation.
Also, the comment they were replying to didn't need any evidence either. I don't know why you're replying this to me and not them.
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Homelessness Women 20% Men 80%
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The wage gap you've mentioned is a myth. The homeless stats you mentioned are wrong. There are not 300 MILLION homeless people in the USA. That's the total population. If you look at your own source there are more men in homeless shelters than women and that is not even counting homeless people who are not in shelters.
So as you've said, you don't have to make shit up, making shit up weakens your point.
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How many wars were women allowed combat positions for? Fault women because men are better at killing themselves? More men die in a male-dominated industry? It's like someone filtered for highly disproportionate statistics without even thinking about context. Shit post
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If said women can pass the physical tests at the same level men do I'm all fucking for it. The issue is that women are given more lenient requirements to join the army and go to combat. If I was injured on the front line as a big 6'3 200+ pound male, I would not trust a female to be able to carry me back to safety. Call me a sexist all you want, but the average man is physically much stronger than the average woman.
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Okay well then you can't argue that it's unfair that men have more dangerous positions. The strongest 10% of females are barely stronger (if they are at all) than the weakest men. If you expect women to have the same baseline strength as men (or work exponentially harder than men have to to get to the same level of strength) then you're going to have a much lower percentage of women.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/
See top comment for all sources.
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Then you deal with the consequence of men getting paid more for labor jobs. Men and women are not equal.
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Exactly they're not equal. Which makes this whole infographic fucking dumb.
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If a man can carry 10 boxes at a time and a woman can only carry 5 who should get paid more? Has nothing to do with supply and demand at all. Obviously this is a specific situation but the general idea can be applied to most trades.
Point is if men can't complain about women taking less dangerous jobs just because they're women then women can't complain about being paid less for doing less work.
Just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean I need to "get a grip" take your condescending shit elsewhere.
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You do realize that 80% of all perpetrators of violent crime are men too right?
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My source specifically says homicide.
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Fine I can change my original comment to say that 85% of all homicides are perpetrated by men. Is that better?
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It is better, because now you are correctly sourcing your statements.
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At least you acknowledge one obviously shit statistic. Many women want to fight for their country just as much as men so this is one of those awkward instances where r/men's rights agrees with feminism. Working in a dangerous industry is a choice so if men feel threatened by the job then just don't work it. Can women control if they are killed? I'd agree with your conclusion if half the statistics weren't so bad to the point of being adversarial
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Women were barred from combat though. They didn't have a choice
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Most men don't want to do a whole lot of jobs and take factory work over it. Men can be a secretary if they want or a clerk or they can go to school to be a nurse or a hairdresser. Maybe the issue is with the idea of masculinity causing these issues not some half-assed sarcastic joke saying male privlage. Men have a higher suicide rate but women have the much higher rate of asking for help and seeking preventative services. This post is pure number porn.
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Men being men is not an "issue" and masculinity is not a bad thing. Just like women choosing to raise a family instead of pursuing a career aren't making a "wrong" decision. The point of this graphic is to illustrate that men have problems too, and talking about privilege is stupid. Feminists don't get to bitch about "muh wage gap" while they work a safe office job doing clerical work.
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Just curious, do you think talking about privilege is important? If so, why?
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Can I blame the system for both? Help is always there if you ask for it. Men just don't ask for it because it's perceived as "weak" to do so
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Were you born into a factory job? Were you born enlisted in the army? Not the same as slavery at all
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And women couldn't be drafted so that is a shit statistic and men aren't forced into working dangerous jobs because they have a penis.
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But women use their disproportionate statistics as evidence of societal misogyny.
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I see nothing about the enormous amount of alimony we have to pay.
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So when are you going to THANK male "patriarchal" bastards for providing you with safe birth control and abortion? Never? I thought so ;)
You're scum. You hate men due to envy but you deny the obvious fact that men have always worked toward trying to help women. Because men are -- shock of shocks -- decent, kind, caring human beings.
One thing you SHOULD recognize -- your hatred of males bleeds over into hatred of girls. Little girls do not have magical armor, and indeed it turns out that little girls suffer just as much from feminism as little boys. Remember that, as you go about your idiotic crusade, in which you attempt to deny girls contact with their fathers. To re-iterate -- YOU are the bad guy here, not anyone on this thread. The statistical data demonstrates that conclusively.
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TIL the only babies that die during child birth are female.
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And many dangerous jobs are mostly impossible for women. Women aren't often allowed to be in combat. The fact of the matter is that a lot of women aren't physically strong enough to work on oil rigs and things like that.
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Huh? I don't consider that a "privilege". It's just the truth, unless you know something I don't.
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The point of the image is that "male privilege", like having a higher average income, is earned. A job that can kill you pays more than being a hairdresser or some other safe job women are more likely to fill. The entire point of the image is to shut up the whiny feminists bitching about male privilege.
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So men are more likely to kill each other but you want them to have custody?
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But they also could correlate. For example men who commit homocide will lose custody of their child. The argument of this poster is ridiculous both ways and doesn't do justice to illuminating legitimate mens issues, it's just whiny.
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Too bad they didn't show the ratio of murderers or industrial workers. How convenient.
Not everything is bigoted. It's possible to oppose FemiNazis without copying their tactics.
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Why do they "have to"? They choose to do that job, probably due to societal expectations. But that doesn't change anything about it being a choice.
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Yes, but that also applies to women, doesn't it? They choose a lot of unpleasant jobs, it's just that these tend to, on average, be safer.
But does that mean men wouldn't be hired as cleaners? Or that women wouldn't be hired as factory workers?
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Which is a smart decision. Shit's dangerous. They apply for safer jobs such as cleaning.
Am I supposed to condemn them for that? It's not my fault these men feel the need to apply to dangerous jobs.
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And men don't? Does the kind of world you live in exclusively feature men with manual labor jobs?
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Let's find out: prediction: you are a pussy, and won't do anything to stand up for male rights. Am I wrong? No, I don't think so. You're a pussy ergo you won't stand up for male rights. That's not exactly a controversial subject. You are a coward, ergo etc. you are a pussy.
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Seems like not dying horrible deaths or having your children taken from you seem like pretty big privileges.
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