Is it hypocritical for a low n-count or virgin woman to prefer/demand a high n-count man for commitment or marriage?

Orange_Paisley · 2021-12-09T16:57:37+00:00

Are there actually virgins that want this? Why ever?

goatismycopilot · 2021-12-09T17:00:42+00:00

Low N women tend to come from religious or insular conservative bubbles and tend to have highly idealized and romantic notions of men and tend to expect their future husband to also be a virgin or low N.

Feisty-Saturn · 2021-12-09T17:47:26+00:00

I think it is hypocritical to live a certain lifestyle and shun/judge someone else in a negative light for living the same lifestyle.

If a woman was a virgin and she was looking down on other men who are virgins and thinking she is too good to be with them then yes she is a hypocrite.

I don’t actually think the situation you are presenting is common.

NarniaFox · 2021-12-09T15:59:07+00:00

As with the opposite situation it depends on their reasoning. In the opposite situation, if a person believes in waiting till marriage or that casual is morally wrong or that high n-count partners make bad spouses, having high counts themselves and looking for a virgin is hypocritical. You should have the same moral standards for yourself and others.

And I really can't imagine a woman with this preference, so I can't give you any clear answer. It doesn't sound insecure/pathetic, it's just...weird. Most women who aren't into casual scene want to date men with low counts or a total lack of experience as well, not guys with triple numbers. I guess if she believed that higher counts were somehow morally better than low counts, it could make her a hypocrite. But as long as she isn't a priestess of Dibella I really doubt it can happen.

MuertaDeLS · 2021-12-09T18:26:29+00:00

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LittyKitsune · 2021-12-09T19:12:44+00:00

I have never met a virgin who felt this way, only non-virgins who assumed I felt this way or told me I should feel this way.

In any case, I do find the idea of laying the burden of performance at the man's feet (hence wanting him to have "experience") to be extremely hypocritical. If I'm not gonna know what the fuck I'm doing why is it his job to know?

quiturbitchn · 2021-12-09T16:18:03+00:00

No because he’s less self controlled in his lifestyle. The reverse would be hypocritical for a high n person to want and actively seek low n people

1Here4Bach · 2021-12-09T16:28:21+00:00

I don’t know any willing low n-count women who would want an high n-count man.

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januaryphilosopher · 2021-12-09T16:00:32+00:00

Yes, if you think that they meet some standard that you, by your own logic, do not, and is desirable in both of you. Although they tend to prefer low n men anyway, and people are entitled to whatever standards they want, even hypocritical ones.

ruboyuri · 2021-12-09T16:39:27+00:00

Do women actually do this?

CatoftheBanals · 2021-12-09T17:31:27+00:00

This is an interesting question. I find it hard to believe that a woman who’s a virgin is going to click with a guy with a lot of past partners, and that he will be willing to suddenly wait till marriage for a woman who may be sexually incompatible with him (huge gamble for someone who loves sex). But yes, if she refuses to date guys who are virgins and assigns virginity as a negative trait in others but a positive one in herself. she’d be hypocritical in my opinion.

heywoodsr · 2021-12-09T17:43:51+00:00

Not hypocritical,it is stupid to base your relationship on a count. Why were you saving yourself for all those years just to be with someone who fucked any female with a pulse? MAKES NO SENSE

chalkandapples · 2021-12-09T18:41:21+00:00

I don't think it's common for a low n count woman to want a high n count man. At least I don't (n count = 1). So I wouldn't be asking for one anyways. But if a high n-count man is like "hey, I'm not into you because I don't want to walk you through how to have sex and you probably isn't as sexual as I am", I'm totally ok with that.

DiamondLilyD · 2021-12-10T02:31:30+00:00

What virgin woman wants a whore husband?

TomorrowsWar · 2021-12-09T16:03:42+00:00

The only women who want guys that sleep around a lot are women who are pretty rare. They’re usually into some really freaky stuff, like orgies and dungeons, but are too chicken to go live that life so they find a guy they trust who does all that and does it alongside him.

But ultimately the fact is that a persons n count doesn’t guarantee you whatever it is you’re looking for. It can help you guess what they’ll be like in the relationship, it could help you understand their sexuality and attitude towards sex, but it doesn’t guarantee anything

A Virgin is fully capable of cheating. A guy that sleeps around a lot could lose interest in sexual adventure. The past can be used as a predictor but it’s just that, a prediction that will either come to pass or not happen at all.

So is it hypocritical? Not really. The intention is different. In the example you provide she wants to be taught and feels a Virgin can’t teach her, where a man who slept around who wants a woman with a low n count wants it because he doesn’t like women who are sexual with other men.

For the second reason of not being turned on by virgins I’d argue is hypocritical tho.

2021-12-09T16:16:34+00:00

No, it's not hypocritical because women's actual shared universal opinion is that EVEN CARING ABOUT ANYONE'S N-COUNT IS WRONG. Men will not accept the cold truth of that answer so women present other rationalizations. Being a hypocrite doesn't make anyone pathetic or insecure--it's that even caring about anyone's N-count makes someone pathetic and insecure.

xQueen-Bx · 2021-12-09T15:55:25+00:00

what

cccccclairee · 2021-12-09T16:47:01+00:00

Is this what women want??? I’ve never heard anything close to this. Based on what I saw in the recent threads the women responding didn’t care about their partners count, I didn’t see comments preferring a higher one than theirs.

Dunno though, I completely don’t care how many people my partner has slept with so I’m not your target for this question.

deste_eloise · 2021-12-09T15:58:58+00:00

Pathetic? Sure. Insecure? Maybe.

Context matters …and I don’t in what universe that would happen.

Vyrnoa · 2021-12-09T16:15:41+00:00

Marrying someone solely on the fact theyve fucked a lot sounds stupid and unrealistic. What hypocrisy is there? Next.

rredirt · 2021-12-09T16:19:23+00:00

This post is stupid

back_in_blyat · 2021-12-09T16:53:01+00:00

The notion that "hypocrisy" in a vacuum is somehow a gotcha or indicates wrongdoing is a faulty premise on its own.

Shorter women want taller men, technically "hypocrisy" but nothing wrong with that. Same with earnings, temperament, heck I've dated a girl that really loved my tattoos and is into that type but had none herself. Yes, it's "hypocrisy" but the notion that hypocrisy = problematic is just absurd. Just like how high N men wanting low N women is not only perfectly fine, but actually completely justifiable beyond just lizard brain predispositions.

Vtridolla · 2021-12-09T16:49:35+00:00

Nah they just want someone really experienced. I always want partners who are experienced. I do not understand the obsession with virgins they are justifiably really bad in bed.

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flapperfemmefatale · 2021-12-09T17:24:40+00:00

Depends on why you have a low body count. If you think having sex with a lot of people damages you, you're choosing to date a damaged person.

Educational-Ad6210 · 2021-12-09T21:40:12+00:00

It’s a matter of what you can negotiate for yourself. If you can’t offer anything to obtain what you want it’s hypocritical. If you can obtain what you want it’s preference.

Think4Yoself · 2021-12-09T21:50:22+00:00

I don't think the entire concept of hypocrisy applies to the sexual marketplace in the way most people try to apply it. Men and women aren't the same and they don't want the same thing in a partner. If every person had to possess all the qualities they want in a partner, everybody would have to be gay.

As far as relationships between men and women go I think the hypocrisy you find is that people who have standards get upset that they don't meet somebody else's standards and so shame them for having those standards. If you're a woman with 100+ n-count and you want a guy with a six figure income who's six foot tall and wants kids, you don't get to shame him for having standards that include an n-count in the single digits. If you're a man who's got a BMI of 40 and makes $9/hr and you want a supermodel, you don't get to shame her for having standards that include being in shape and economically secure. That's the only thing I find hypocritical.

f1vepointoh · 2021-12-10T00:48:40+00:00

I took an 18 year old girls virginity when i was 24. I didnt know her age or that she was a virgin. im the type to always lead and tell them what to do so i couldnt tell. She wanted more i didnt... so its happened to me before but shes since moved on and im not interested in doing that again anyway but i think some girls realize you cant date a boy who likes their freedom.

RealNiceLady · 2022-03-05T03:01:39+00:00

Is it hypocritical for a low n-count or virgin woman to prefer/demand a high n-count man for commitment or marriage?

It's really rare for a low count or virgin woman to prefer a high count man.

Or maybe virgin guys just doesn't turn her on.

Virgin girls want virgin guys but can't get them.

such reasons would this woman be considered "insecure" and even "pathetic"?

No

Catherine772023 · 2022-05-23T17:38:11+00:00

If anything the reverse and hypocrisy is more likely. It’s like “traditionalism for thee but not for me”. It’s like he expects her to go without sex and even get mocked for being a virgin in some circles to please him after he’s been sleeping around as he pleases. I want to reject guys like him.

I don’t think it’s as likely as red pill bs likes to claim for the reverse to be true.

It’s unlikely but if it did happen it would be hypocritical unless she slept around herself a bit first or planned to so she could make her preference less hypocritical. It’s not a preference I would have or recommend. And I am not saying she should go down this path at all. She can have sex with guys who have had one or a few women if they could have had practice in bed etc. Still she might have some of her own sexual fantasies so idk if she would be led. All this seems like wanting to avoid the 2 awkward virgin situation but many couples happily figure out good sex together. And given access to information it’s less relevant to have a more experienced partner than in past she’s when women were virgins and not always even taught about she’s before marriage so husbands could lead them in bed. Now there’s the internet and sex books and sex education.

Wanting a guy who’s slept around with tonnes of women and could be a player from a virgin is bs.

So yes it’s hypocritical and she probably was brainwashed by red pill. And I don’t think it’s usually what virgin women want since many are religious or at least have ideas about sex that won’t encourage them to want to hop in bed with players.

Catherine772023 · 2022-05-23T17:47:10+00:00

It’s hypocritical for a virgin woman to look down on a virgin man.

Title	Is it hypocritical for a low n-count or virgin woman to prefer/demand a high n-count man for commitment or marriage?
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Date	December 9, 2021 3:51 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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