What are some everyday common examples that disprove TRP?

LSTW1234 · 2017-03-21T12:54:14+00:00

I see men expressing weakness and vulnerability to women, without the women becoming repulsed.

I see former sluts who are considered high value by lots of men, in happy healthy relationships.

future_space_boobs · 2017-03-21T12:40:55+00:00

where do you live that another couple's "constant cheating" is an everyday observation for you?

EliteSpartanRanger · 2017-03-21T15:56:22+00:00

the fact that many guys who would be "incel" under TRP rules (aka fat guys, guys who are not Chads, short guys) are usually happily married and not in dead bedrooms

Electra_Cute · 2017-03-21T12:32:19+00:00

An individual can not "disprove" The Red Pill because it a "a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based". One can argue the means in which a Red Pill user chooses to obtain sex are inefficient.

wub1234 · 2017-03-21T15:52:24+00:00

The only exceptions I see, such as a very low SMV guy with a good looking girl, aren't really exceptions at all as the girl constantly cheats or flirts with other guys in front of the low SMV guy.

This seems extremely dubious.

TheChemist158 · 2017-03-21T22:33:07+00:00

The average partner count it's only like 6 people, meaning most women are sleeping around that much. People are getting into LTRs at the same rate since the 80s, which is to say most people. There isn't a glut of women wondering where the good men are, nor a bunch of men unable to get women. It's actually the educated working women that waited to get married that have the lowest divorce rate. Most men get partial custody of their kids, don't pay alimony, and keep a fair bit of stuff fron marriage.

So women aren't sleeping around or holding out for Chad. Women are postponing marriage and getting educated, but that seems to help her love life. Divorce rape isn't much if a problem either.

That's just statistics. Personally, the dating scene seems to be much more chill than TRP makes it seem. Most men and women just want soneone to love. Women don't demand that much in terms of money or labor. Men don't put on much of a show. Sometimes they don't mesh but it's generally because of conflicting interests.

ManSentHisOwnWay · 2017-03-21T14:30:26+00:00

Couples weathering tough times and coming out stronger

People looking completely differently yet still being attracted to each other

Just all the women I wouldn't categorize as childish/impatient/emotional/dismissive/cold-hearted/manipulative/etc.

The tons of people into alternative lifestyles and with "out-there" sexual kinks

Promiscuous women succeeding in relationships

I could just keep going on and on. I rarely see anything "RP" in my daily life. Most times, reading the shit redpillers say on here makes me feel like I live on a completely different planet.

alreadyredschool · 2017-03-21T12:46:32+00:00

Go to the end of the bellcurve, the weird deviant people don't behave normal, same goes for the filthy rich or famous.

SmeggingRight · 2017-03-22T03:56:20+00:00

Shit, lemme think... Well, hell. I didn't have to think too hard.

AFBB

For that to be hardwired in women, it would have had to be happening for thousands of years. But women weren't free to pursue AF until the 1960s. They'd been pursuing BB for all time previously. THE RED PILL DISPROVED.

From what I see of women, they want babies and to settle down around the same time as men. Around the age of 30. Because they've worked/studied/travelled/done all they wanted to do. Nothing to do with your fucked-up wall theory. THE RED PILL DISPROVED

Women are the oldest teenagers

I see men doing the stupidest stuff every single day. Hurting themselves. Jumping into water where there's crocodiles (happened this week). Spazzing out because things didn't go their way. Guys still living at home in their 30s and playing video games. Guys whinging their heads off in TRP. Granted, women do stupid shit too, but so do men. THE RED PILL DISPROVED

Women want alphas

Women want confident, good looking men? That's been known forever and you can't claim it as a red pill tenet. THE RED PILL DISPROVED

FRAME

stoicism as practised by trp is shit. if someone is really able to indifferent to shit happening around them, that's all good. But the red pill encourages constant bitter bellyaching. You can't say trp is not a red pill teaching because they think TRP is good stuff for men. THE RED PILL DISPROVED
soldiers trying to be stoic and like rocks after returning from battle, only to end up alcoholic, depressed or committing suicide. THE RED PILL DISPROVED
men trying to pretend to be stoic and like rocks to their wives, as they did in the old days, only to end up with their wives and kids hating them. That was common. Check how many over 60s wives are divorcing their husbands because they can finally get free of them. That fucking rock-like shit didn't last the distance. THE RED PILL DISPROVED

WOMEN ARE IRRATIONAL. MEN ARE LOGICAL

Men are most of the criminals in this world. They're taking a high risk in being so. Men do most of the stupid, dangerous shit just for thrills. Men are mostly the people who are killing people. They are far more impulsive than women. It's all highly irrational, people.

I'd like to think it's a feature, not a flaw. Men's irrational nature led to new discoveries and progress in history. we won wars. It's just the violent shit/criminal shit that we need to get a handle on now because it no longer serves us..

Women have far better frame from what I've seen. They're more likely to internalise stuff than act it out like men do and more likely to think things through.

Women can get irrational at times of the month. Mostly when their FEMALE hormone levels drop and their MALE hormones start dominating. It's weird for them. They don't know what to do with the anger they feel inside and the greater testosterone. THE RED PILL DISPROVED

OmLiLi · 2017-03-21T12:20:33+00:00

I'll tell you when I figure out what TRP is.

Sunhappy_DC · 2017-03-21T12:50:20+00:00

fat men getting laid and making meaningful relationships with attractive women who are attracted to them BECAUSE of their charisma and masculine behavior.

Ercole-- · 2017-03-21T15:21:34+00:00

Egalitarian and feminine led relationships are probably possible. Masculine led relationships can fail too. TRP is not for everyone. I wouldn't actually advise it. It works for me, but I'm possibly psychopathic and to the fortune of my wife, I'm benevolent. I'm not sure it'll ever work for a guy who's not inherently filled to the gills with testosterone, and I'm not even sure it would guarantee a happy LTR for him if he's too selfish.

Also, just because men are more geared to high stress/short time frame than women doesn't mean that all men are leaders and all women are followers. An above average woman still handles high stress far better than a weak man. I've had good bosses that were women.

OfSpock · 2017-03-22T03:03:54+00:00

There's the OKCupid study and the marriage statistics which show that women don't actually like older guys. Sorry men, you don't age like wine.

trail22 · 2017-03-21T15:30:36+00:00

I guess its the idea of the priesthood / nuns.

These groups would not exist if TRP were the main driving force behind men and women.

Unabummer80 · 2017-03-21T14:57:13+00:00

I see lots of married couples who seem content to put everything into the family life and where there is lots of love in the whole unit. I can't look at them and think "hmm I wonder if it's a dead bedroom" etc. Plenty of people do genuinely mature past the have lots of sex stage.

Some single guys I know in their 40s are getting laid but they're much too busy to juggle several women at a time. They're more restricted to one date or so a week cos of their other hobbies and pursuits.

Also, a while back I did the old 'picture of a male model on Tinder' thing, and whilst I got some slutty women interested, if I was direct in my intentions most of them disappeared.

Rufus_Reddit · 2017-03-21T16:02:39+00:00

TRP is a bunch of narratives, and not a falsifiable hypothesis. A bunch of the assertions in TRP are also pretty uncontroversial.

Suppose someone asked you, "What are some common examples that disprove Shintoism?" Could you come up with persuasive ones? (Or, if you prefer, plug in some other religion or sect that you don't subscribe to, but are more familiar with.)

Really, for this kind of question to make sense as a debate topic, you would want to pick a specific assertion in TRP that is both controversial, and falsifiable, and then talk about that. As it stands, this post looks more like lazy confirmation bias than any attempt at sensible debate.

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80_20 · 2017-03-22T00:59:39+00:00

such as a very low SMV guy with a good looking girl

what makes you think you are able to judge that objectively and not through your own attractiveness bias?

soccerstar77 · 2017-03-22T05:44:47+00:00

Well I see exceptions but I never see things that go against the sexual theory side of TRP.

For example, I knew several guys who were 5'5" and regularly hooked up or dated hot white blonde girls, but all of those guys wer extremely jacked and muscular.

Fontess · 2017-03-23T15:17:31+00:00

Its impossible to prove or disprove TRP. This is not science, although sometimes you will feel like it is when you read it. Its more like " jack saw that woman do x when y. John saw that too. And all other bunch of guys saw that too". I have tried Blue pill tools. It didn't work for me. Maybe it did for someone. But for me it didn't. But red pill tools did. Also we shouldn't be so quick minded with some conclusions like LSTW1234 said. Man can express weakness to their woman and don't get any reaction back because not every woman will automatically cheat or dump you if you show weakness. Every woman has its own " loser threshold". Some will cheat or dump you if you show weakness, some will cheat and dump you if you show weakness and some other guy comes into play. Some will cheat and dump you if you show weakness and do x,y,z.... The point is that every woman will treat you with some kind of disrespect if you pass her loser threshold. Second former sluts who are considered high value. By who? Are these guys high value by themselves? To many, many,many man the mere fact that girl has vagina gives her value. The real question is would you also consider her high value? For some the fact that she "was" slut equals her value to zero. Did she marry the guy with options who could have 100 other girls but he just wanted to marry former slut? He doesn't have problem marrying former slut. Great for him. I know some guys would.

SockSage · 2017-03-21T17:10:10+00:00

My whole life.

I see it working like clockwork with little to no exceptions.

Confirmation bias.

Title	What are some everyday common examples that disprove TRP?
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Date	March 21, 2017 12:12 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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