Fat and stupid are close kin.

bsutansalt · 2016-11-07T16:06:21+00:00

I think we need a new flair for "Tough Love". This kind of short and powerful accountabilty thread is what many of us need to hear from time to time.

Swole_is_life · 2016-11-06T23:04:58+00:00

In before "but I know a guy with so much game that he weighs 400 pounds and still bangs multiple supermodels a day".

Docbear64 · 2016-11-07T02:28:50+00:00

Losing weight really is a solid first step to loving yourself . I have been overweight my whole life , I am the healthiest I have ever been now but still want to lose another 50lbs if I'm honest. I lost 60 lbs last year and I can't explain how strange it was embracing the mindset of loving my body. My entire life I had been ashamed of being fat, I used my humor and intelligence to get most of the women I had been with but largely I disliked the shit out of myself . Dressing and even some basic bathing principles didn't matter to me because it felt like putting makeup on a pig . a fat lump who smells good / is dressed nicely is still a fat lump .

Losing the weight opened up my eyes to a lot of things though at first the only differences I saw were the numbers of the scale slowly going down , then small things here and there, my fat creases disappearing , my pants getting looser , eventually I could see new features of my body that I really liked. I've fallen in love with my biceps .

Being a big guy through most of my life to being a smaller guy that I am now is worlds different, Women notice me more, my dick does feel bigger sometimes, I had ED issues when I was eating shitty food but now my dick pops up like I'm 18 again ( I missed you buddy) , I can go to the store, try something , and even a few times I just knew it wouldn't fit and it fit fantastically.

If you are like me and have always been overweight losing weight is the best gift that you can give yourself . My favorite motivational quote is " It won't be easy , but it will be worth it" . That's been my experience with weight loss , I won't say it was easy , I figured out how to make it work for me though and the pride and self-love losing weight has given me has helped me to foster such strong sense of love and respect for myself .

Battle-Scars · 2016-11-06T22:43:36+00:00

The people I respect the most at the gym are the men and women who are overweight. They are the ones who decided to get off the couch and the Cheetos and at least try.

Jolly-rancher359 · 2016-11-06T23:29:54+00:00

My mom spends hours on end after work just watching TV. She's gotten fatter and bulkier over the years but today she came on a forty minute walk with me. I'm very concerned about her weight and I want to encourage her to eat healthier or do some exercise but she is legitimately addicted, and I don't know how to get through to her.

Any advice on how to get her to lose the weight? I don't want to lose my mom to an early death. :(

Bwaaarp · 2016-11-07T23:42:14+00:00

YES TO BUTTER, this is the 3rd time I've lost the same 40lbs. First time I've done it on the ketogenic diet. My blood work has never been better, my dick has never been harder, I don't feel hungry... ever. I still go out and have days or nights on refined, starchy, simple carbs but I've got full control and it doesn't feel like I'm on borrowed time until I'm a fat piece of shit again I also use tactical insulin spiking for the anabolic effects it has by spiking my blood sugar shortly before a heavy workout. Fuck the food pyramid, listen to your body, get educated, spin plates and get paid. I love you cunts

GroundhogLiberator · 2016-11-07T00:17:22+00:00

I had a busy day at work last week and didn't get a chance to eat lunch. I probably went about 12 hours without eating. I was definitely hungry, but it wasn't the end of the world.

It got me thinking about how insane it is that people think they need to have a full stomach 24/7. I'm pulling this number out of my ass, but I'd say that 90% of the people who ever lived never had their stomach full for more than a few days at a time - and if they did eat their fill, it was because they had spent hours busting their ass hunting or foraging or harvesting.

offthebeatmeoff · 2016-11-07T02:25:38+00:00

I hate the stereotype of the smart well read fat guy. Being fat is the dumbest thing you can do. Cardiovascular health is directly connected to brain health. You're brain is always sucking in constant amounts of blood and is the biggest consumer of calories in your body (pound for pound). Having good cardiovascular health will improve brain function. Exercise has also been show to the formation of neurons in the hippocampus leading to the idea that exercise can improve memory.

You have over 100 million neurons in your gut. The enteric nervous system is massive. Over 50% of dopamine and serotonin is stored there. The connections you're enteric system has to your brain is massive. Treat it well and eat right. If you love yourself then take care of yourself. No one else can do it for you.

chazthundergut · 2016-11-07T02:06:53+00:00

Well, as a morbidly obese man (300 lbs) I have to say that I agree with most of what you're saying. It is a real problem, and it has certainly had a devastating effect on my (non-esistant) sex life.

bigcitytruth · 2016-11-07T06:35:32+00:00

Cut sugar, add fiber. Download a fitness app to audit your meals and to take charge. Google your daily calories for your goal weight, and the macro ratio that suits you. Learn to cook (hell, even the microwave is okay, as long as you hit your macros). If you can't even do this, then you are hopeless. PS: it's not your thyroid or your parents that made you fat. It's the french fries and beer.

Bolt_Ironstag · 2016-11-07T11:28:16+00:00

Yep, used to be obese. Now I'm fat, but not for much longer. My biggest regret is how much of my life I missed out on.

yayaja67 · 2016-11-07T01:51:41+00:00

Great post, tough but positive. It's a hard lesson for a lot of us life long fatsos to hear, but an important one. I've been able to drop my BF by around 2-3% in the past year, but I have a long way to.

[deleted] · 2016-11-07T03:48:16+00:00

TRUTH! TRUTH! TRUTH! My lazy ass has to lose about 30lbs!

PM_Pics_of_Your_Muff · 2016-11-07T03:26:31+00:00

This is what I needed to hear. Thanks!

subjectivealpha · 2016-11-07T04:20:01+00:00

My dad has always been overweight, even as a kid. I've always been a healthy weight for whatever reason. He's only gotten bigger as he's aged and I'm really worried about his health. He's almost 60 and has probably gained 50 more lbs over the past 10 or 15 years so I would say he's obese now.

He is convinced that he's always been fat and that's just the way it is. He thinks he's not capable of losing weight. He was also bullied as a kid about it so it's a sensitive subject.

He doesn't eat breakfast or lunch, ever. He comes home from work and eats 2-3 giantic plates (I'm talking mountains) full of the food my mom makes, a dessert, and snacks on stuff usually while watching tv til he goes to bed. He doesn't exercise minus manual labor at work.

Is this a lost cause? I would like to convince him to lose weight for his own good but I don't know how to go about it. His doctor is also overweight so I'm afraid he won't push him to lose weight. Any advice would be welcome.

Purpleroxs · 2016-11-07T16:34:10+00:00

Omg...its called being curvy /s

If women can use this, so can men...

I've had flat out arguments with other about how being fat can endanger your health.

"Oh, well I'm a big person, but ny doctor says I'm 100% healthy!"

Let's see them say that when you need emergency surgery and the fat is around the organs they need to get to, guess what?

Exactly. You only got one body. Take care of it.

squidracer · 2016-11-06T23:26:05+00:00

There's nothing wrong with potatoes

PissedPajamas · 2016-11-08T19:13:39+00:00

Truth be told I was 270lbs once and life dramatically improved when I dropped to 185lbs 12% BF, for starters I can look down and see my dick

ManowaR1488 · 2016-11-07T02:53:07+00:00

Sugars effects on the brain are similar to cocaine. Some people have addictive personalities and it's just not so easy. Look at the people who struggle with it their whole lives, It's exactly the same as a drug addiction. It's so bad sometimes that these people get depressed and even commit suicide. It's easy to say "put down the fork fatass" when you're not dealing with it everyday and it fucking up almost all aspects of your daily life. It's easy for me to tell a smoker to just PUT DOWN THE CIGARETTE/NEEDLE! when I'm not addicted.

It's not just an issue of will power for everybody. Sugar is a addictive public health hazard.

Head on over to /loseit or /progresspics once in a while and read what's written by those who have lost(alot) of weight, the comments supporting them sounds like they're straight out of an AA/Drug addiction support group meeting. They are so happy to have overcome something so challenging in their lives that it's like they won the fucking lottery sometimes.

Eternasphere · 2016-11-07T07:26:18+00:00

Following my most recent breakup 6 months ago I began hitting the gym. Lost 40 lbs of fat and gained about 12 in muscle. The weight loss is the result of strict diet planning and hitting the stationary bike for 50-150 calories per session for at least 4 days a week.

My diet consists of a high protein breakfast of sausages eggs and mushrooms, and my dinner is usually fish and potato salad/rice. In between or around these meals is when I try to get the nutrients i'm missing so i'll snack on carrots, broccoli, bananas, etc.

tedcase · 2016-11-07T10:59:26+00:00

Does stupid make you fat, or does fat make you stupid?

rumovoice · 2016-11-07T13:55:19+00:00

What's wrong with potatoes? I thought they are healthy

OXHockey23 · 2016-11-07T15:34:27+00:00

What's worse is that in my country the taxpayers have to pay for the sweaty feckless whale-people's medical bills to prevent them from succumbing to their 10 Gregs sausage rolls a day habit.

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mancozbi · 2016-11-07T05:34:44+00:00

I'm not a fan of TRP (women, even feminists, aren't the enemy), but this post is first rate. Alpha male fights the fat.

AnjaJutta · 2016-11-07T08:38:22+00:00

There is no need for "haters" or "excuses". Sugar is an addictive substance, measured to be 8 times stronger than cocaine. A fat person is an addict as much as a smoker or an alcoholic. Battling addiction is difficult but not something that can't be done. What personally helped me shed tons of pounds and brought me to a good place in my life was taking up dancing and cycling.

MisterJitsu · 2016-11-07T03:23:40+00:00

Guys, you can eat potatoes. They're pretty good for you actually, and great on a budget. Everything is spot on.

OneInAZillion · 2016-11-07T05:24:53+00:00

Would you mind making another one of these except instead of "fat", you replace it with "skinny as a god damned twig" ?

Akela_hk · 2016-11-07T04:35:37+00:00

Excellent post and on point. I disagree with the potato thing though. As long as it fits your macros for a caloric deficit, you'll be fine. I've lifted for years and have gone off and on with proper dieting. The quality of pussy slain is directly proportional to your fatness, I know from experience.

onehardtard · 2016-11-07T14:55:37+00:00

Any advice on getting the mind set? I'm a fat ass and I just lose motivation easily. I don't exactly have money for a gym membership and it's kind of hard to find time with two kids. But I really want to lose 100lbs. I just keep making some excuse. I'm also horrendously addicted to porn. I started reading TRP posts because I wanted to change but wanting to and doing is two different things.

Bigcasanova · 2016-11-07T17:14:10+00:00

I'd take this even a step further. This applies not only to the lazy fucks with man boobs ( disgusting ), but guys like me . I have nice big shapely pecs and big arms ... and a gut to go with it . All that muscle isn't going to jack shit for you if you aren't lean . So whether you are a skinny fat couch potato , or a fat weightlifter , drop the Weight .

yummyFunTime · 2016-11-07T20:32:26+00:00

Ever since I lost weight (went Primal, which is a offshoot of Paleo) I've been happier and less annoyed by small dumb shit.

I went from 240lbs at 5'10" to 175lbs with just walking and dieting. Cut the sugar, shop in the meats/veggies, maybe have a dark chocolate bar (80% cacao) for something sweet.

I was 31, and by 32 I went from that fat whiny asian nerd to a slim asian nerd with a new body fit wardrobe and a better attitude (currently 36). Girls started talking to me again (I was 185 lbs in college) and I liked being me.

I wish my current roommates would make the change that OP is saying. They'll cook tons of food (Gravy N Biscuits, Lasagna, Mexican Corn) then get bored and leave leftovers in the fridge. There are literally 3 weeks worth of food that just gets left in the fridge to waste because they become "bored" by what's in the fridge.

If I say "you should cut down on sugar" the whining, moaning and excuses just flows like shit from a sewage spout. The mindset of making excuses for shitty environment/lifestyle is ingrained too deep.

If it was just that, I wouldn't mind, but it spills over into daily chores or just keeping the place clean. They are both fucking slobs. The living room and their rooms are just stuffed with Man Child nerd toys (i.e. figures, legos, etc) and piles of clothes strewn across the floors. I rarely hang out at the house other than my room because of the "Toy Encroachment" happening everywhere. The idea of even having casual FBs or even actual friends over seems horrifying to me because of just how gross the place is.

I don't even want to talk about the bathroom. Being the only person who even cleans is ridiculous.

The few times I've hung out with them outside for walks (down by Pike's Place or the Waterfront in Seattle), it feels like it takes 3 times longer to do anything because of how slow they are on foot.

My point is that being fat is misery, for your friends, for any girl that wants to be with you and for yourself. If you're tired of being miserable, than fucking do something about it and stop making excuses. Fix your life.

chris_sydney · 2016-11-06T23:13:22+00:00

Second that. Losing fat is not hard.

stickhater · 2016-11-07T05:22:33+00:00

Why so much meat ? that isn't good either . Im not fst and completely aggree with your Statement , but too much meat is neither healthy nor " manly " . Thats also a lazy way of thinking , learn about cooking and start to prepare yourself healthy Food with less meat and more diversity . I've recently started to follow a strict diet : as little sugar as possible , no nicotine , coffeine , alcohol , only one meal with meat a week , only water , Tea and juice with 100% fruit , a wide variety of vegetables , fruits , nuts , berries , a little bi t of milk products . Thats enough , I've bought myself a book called " no meat athlete " which has great recipes and honestly ive never felt better , i get up earlier in the morning without being sleepy at all , work out more , i am just more productive , i have much more energy compared to what I used to have before . Learning how to cook is fun , it makes the whole ordeal less of a chore . Also im no native speaker , just to clear that up .

Tron10000 · 2016-11-07T08:18:14+00:00

OK BUT IS IT REALLY NECESSARY TO CUT OUT CARBOHYDRATES?

ihateporkbuns · 2016-11-07T08:32:29+00:00

what's your opinions on being overweight (not obese)

billsmashole · 2016-11-07T11:34:50+00:00

I won't hate on this post. Fat people need to lose weight. Most are lazy from what I've noticed, and even if they're not, special considerations must always be made for them in life. There is no excuse to be obese.

GreenDiamond1337 · 2016-11-07T14:20:40+00:00

What if your too skinny or underweight, that is often never talked about?

SeekingTheWay · 2016-11-07T17:19:09+00:00

Having experienced both sides of the spectrum, I wholeheartly confirm that this OP of a gentleman is 100% right.

[deleted] · 2016-11-07T17:39:54+00:00

Low body fat is key for facial aesthetics. I see many people thinking that lifting will only get a super muscled body.

First, for the average man is very hard to get super muscled unless you get steroids.

Second, lifting is the best exercise to promote fat loss and have many heatlh benefits.

Third, if you are lean, ideally 10-12% body fat you're face will be more attractive. There are guys thinking they are ugly when the truth is their face are covered in useless fat!

redwormcharlie · 2016-11-07T18:40:22+00:00

I read this in Shia Labouf's's voice and JUST DO IT!

[deleted] · 2016-11-07T19:35:51+00:00

No bread, no sugar, no potatoes. Lots of meat and green veg cooked in real butter.

As I am edging on destitution, I am finding I get 2k calories of food a day pretty cheap... 2lb things of almonds/mixed nuts (you want more almonds than nuts but they're more expensive than peanut filler). 18x locally laid eggs. 2-for-1 cheese blocks. Whole chickens. That's keto right there, because I am poor but still lifting. I lost 50lbs on Keto years ago, habits stayed. Check out -r-ketotreats even if you don't follow the diet.

Mukato · 2016-11-07T21:16:13+00:00

OP is right. I am down 30 pound of fat and up 10 pounds of muscle since starting my MAP 6 weeks ago (measured with multiple scales, and regular BF% monitoring with variables controlled for)

Keto at a 30% deficit is hard, especially while doing SL5x5 at the same time, but holy shit if it isn't worth the pain to get the massive confidence, discipline, and testosterone boosts.

[deleted] · 2016-11-07T22:09:12+00:00

This time next year I'm gonna be that muscly cunt other blokes hope is gay

ThrowingMyslfOutther · 2016-11-07T22:28:09+00:00

Who told you not to eat potatoes?

villa_gotaha · 2016-11-08T00:47:56+00:00

and you have everything to gain.

Your dick will look bigger too! (Was a fat kid until I turned 16).

stoicismexpress · 2016-11-08T01:20:09+00:00

Any retards that are upset, I bet you're hamstering this post to believe that OP is a meanie who gets pleasure from hurting your feelings. He's not. He's a good man that's trying to help you.

MrAnderzon · 2016-11-28T15:32:25+00:00

So it's set on the food you eat

SirWilfred · 2016-11-30T07:11:26+00:00

Theres nothing wrong with bread or potatos.

[deleted] · 2017-02-18T04:25:50+00:00

It's a good feeling when you have to buy a new belt, and then cut it down to size and make another hole.

Dirkz · 2016-11-07T01:44:27+00:00

I must be missing the part of this subreddit that supports being fat?

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suske127 · 2016-11-07T11:54:10+00:00

While I agree with this post there are some flaws in the logic

The point is that fat people are "losing at life" ~ Well, life is not inherently a competition. We all have our own goals we'd like to accomplish. Most guys want to bang lots of chicks and so it's fair to assume that if you're fat, you're not banging lots of chicks, and hence you're failing your life goal.

But not all people live to bang chicks. And not all fat people are thirsty. Some fat people do have lots of game to make up for being ugly af, and still get laid

With that said, nobody can argue that being fat is simply bad for you. I think everybody can agree that our time here is short and we should all be doing what we can to get more. You can never get your time back, but you could lose weight and get more time.

verify_account · 2016-11-07T17:21:06+00:00

No bread, no sugar, no potatoes. Lots of meat and green veg cooked in real butter.

Please no meme shit.

It's calories in > calories out. It's that simple. If you eat over your TDEE with either carbs or butter, you're going to keep getting fat.

This is basic basic basic science people.

KetamineKyle · 2016-11-07T17:13:11+00:00

Ah yes, a very strong and well researched theory /s

flatox · 2016-11-07T10:41:07+00:00

On a sidenote though, fat is better than skinny with no muscle. Both are bad though.

A skinny guy is the male equivalent to a fat woman.

Mckallidon · 2016-11-07T02:27:48+00:00

From the title, since you're talking about fat, you must be stupid.

rolledrick · 2016-11-07T10:46:44+00:00

I'm fat I eat because I'm fat because I'm eat.

Chromania · 2016-11-07T12:47:41+00:00

But bro, many medical experts claim that this whole "man tits" issue is not some simple fat based phenomenon, but a hormonal anomaly which can be solved only through surgery. What's your take on this claim??

Title	Fat and stupid are close kin.
Author	Balderdash74
Upvotes	601
Comments	306
Date	November 6, 2016 10:22 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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