I often hear complaints about hypergamy in men's dating discussions. That it's increasing because of modern dating where the dating pool is so big that people, especially women, are always looking for something better. From there, it's pointed out that this is bad for society because the majority of the people on the bottom will be partnerless and unfulfilled.
There's also an idea that the ranking is based on a genetic lottery where the physically attractive people are on the top, and the ugly people are on the bottom, and that there's very little that can be done to change one's place in the pecking order.
The common result seems to be lamenting one's place in the pecking order, resenting dating, giving up on improving oneself because it doesn't matter, and finally advocating for some sort of a traditional monogamous relationship because it would force a one man/one woman pairing.
Assuming this summary is fair, is this really happening? And is it increasing?
The original definition of hypergamy seemed to focus on social status and the notion of marrying up. But it's predominantly used to describe dynamics in societies with rigid caste systems where status and wealth are tied up with class.
Given we no longer have these rigid classes, wouldn't the practice of hypergamy go down or at least become much more difficult to identify?
The focus of the term hypergamy now seems to be on genetic traits rather than wealth and status. Is that because this is being used in the context of causal dating, where attraction matters more?
Let's assume some form of hypergamy, where women are trying to date higher status/more attractive men, really has increased. Is that even bad? One would think it's self-correcting as it becomes more difficult when competition increases. Everyone gets to determine for themselves how much effort they want to invest in the 'game' of finding a partner, and how much they're going to try to either aim up or better themselves.
Luckily, marriage is less about economics and livelihood these days. We get to marry out of choice. And in this world it's likely that less people will choose to get married because it's not worth it. Or they will get married to a same-sex life partner, which may or may not be romantic. These all seem like positive developments for society.
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This post will garner no responses because it’s truth. We spent time across two decades in the body positivity movement focused solely on women to the point where the average woman now believes she deserves the top men in every category. Meanwhile, men are told they need to earn six figures, be over six feet tall, and have six pack abs or they’re trash.
Anyone complaining about this is either labeled an incel, a creep, or a misogynist. There is a ridiculous amount of pressure on men today and it’s ever increasing. This will lead to bad outcomes on a large scale for everyone - it’s already happening.
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I googled this and thought I had found the wrong podcast cause there’s nothing special about the hosts imo
Edit: To a lesser degree but still in general though this the dynamic out there. I’m in California and see it consistently
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But they are lusting for their six figures, that early 20s dudes aren't yet able to provide.
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LOL, their sex drive is like fraction of a dude's.
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In most cases though abs and jawlines aren’t sticking around unless you yourself as a woman bring something to the table for said man many others girls don’t offer since these guys have their pick.
No matter what women say being alone is ultimately still being alone and a worse outcome in the big picture than having someone. On this board which I think skews younger this drives a rage about settling because in youth it feels that way. But enough of this thought process and one day you wake up at 35 and wonder where all the good guys are and eventually you’re 50 with two cats, your pink trucker hat, and an oversized glass of rose feeling lonely.
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If he’s not super hot guy though is that really the characterization of miserable? I’m not saying be with a neck beard. Being alone isn’t filled with joy, it’s the opposite of joy. Men don’t see their partner this way. It’s like saying we all only want the top 5% and you can step outside any day of the week and see that’s not the case.
There are other models to raise kids that work I guess but empirical scientific evidence shows it’s sub performing to the nuclear family and in some cases it’s not even close.
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