Have women tried to manipulate you to commit or treat them well by saying these things?

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-06-04T13:19:04+00:00

I was always gonna treat a girl well, and just be a little more understanding depending the situation, but I wasn’t gonna start treating her “differently” than I normally would have.

I’m gonna treat her right, if that’s too nice for her that’s cool: it was a fun time, good luck with your search. If it’s not “good enough” same thing.

Difficult-Ad-2866 · 2024-06-04T16:44:03+00:00

It’s not hard to manipulate a man who finds you attractive. And yeah, there are a lot of manipulative people out there. And yeah it works for a little while. It’s not a recipe for a healthy long-term relationship, but sure, saying stuff like this is great if you was to use someone…

TRTGymBro1 · 2024-06-04T12:47:51+00:00

Every woman I’ve dated magically has the most toxic, abusive, serially cheating ex. Many woman that I dated would openly talk about how good they are in bed and how men have never had any complaints.

When this doesn’t work, they may bring out the big guns like saying “everyone in my life abandons me sooner or later” or some variation of that.

kongeriket · 2024-06-04T13:10:14+00:00

Have girls tried to manipulate you by saying these things? What else have they said?

Yes. Here's some other examples:

Х did this and it's so nice you don't [unbeknownst to her that I knew X and could verify she's lying]
I'm more traditional so let's wait until it's God's will [trying to play my desire to get married only in Church and in the meantime keep me sexless]
I've had the best sex with you [while maybe technically true, I also knew she had said the same thing to the previous two guys]
Various cheesy obviously scripted love statements she used before

They all ended with a similar line: "The door is that way, honey."

And this stuff works! Guys eat it up.

Yes. Because men are starved of compliments from women - so they'll take even those they know are fake.

What I find the most amusing is women's anger about the unjustly high value of manipulative whores. The same women get really upset when you suggest that they should compliment men more which would, for sure, lower the efficacy of such strategy and would in fact benefit higher value women. But because this would first help men, women will not do it. Because having any empathy for men is kryptonite to the overwhelming majority of women.

As a result, this stuff continues to work with most men. /shrug

Gravel_Roads · 2024-06-04T13:48:57+00:00

Ah yes. Another post from a very clearly DEFINITELY REAL woman, making observations about how she and all of her male friends are completely mystified and suspicious of... WOMEN, and how it's impossible that they could just be normal humans who don't put MASTERMIND level of thought into every offhand comment they make on a date.

It’s making me think average and below average girls manipulate more.

What makes you categorize these women, (who are clearly NOTHING like you because you're a SPECIAL woman, who doesn't do NORMAL woman things!) are "average or below average"?

To answer, no, I don't think any of those things are particularly manipulative.

“you have the biggest dick out of all the guys I’ve been with” to manipulate guys to like them/commit.

This isn't "manipulation" this is called "giving a compliment". Sometimes, people might compliment you because they like you, and want you to like them back. In this case, it's a sign that your partner liked having sex with you and would like to have more sex with you.

Do you consider it 'manipulative' to be nice to someone because you like them, and went them to like being with you?

“my girlfriends get pumped n dumped by guys” to manipulate guys to treat them well and commit

It's not manipulative to say "I know someone who wasn't treated well." It's calling out a negative behavior. It's only "manipulative" if you were PLANNING to pump and dump her, and her calling it out shamed you out of it. (Which... I don't think anyone would consider a bad thing?)

“my ex(es) were abusive” to manipulate guys to protect them and treat them well

You blokes really need to figure out if you want women to lie to you or not. Her telling you that her ex was abusive isn't "manipulating you" into treating her well. Again: PRESUMABLY, you were already treating her well. She's telling you what she's experienced in the course of her life, because she's a human being who has had experienced in her life.

I gotta ask - if you had an abusive ex are you suppose to HIDE it like a dirty secret?

“I broke up with all my exes” to manipulate guys to see them as high value.

This is just a bizarre flex, but it's not manipulative. It feels like you're TRYING to describe what RP calls "Dread game", but without the actual context, she could also be telling you a funny anecdote about how unlucky she's been in dating.

abaxeron · 2024-06-04T12:56:53+00:00

I noticed women manipulate guys by saying the same things.

Takes an asexual golddiger to have a "water is wet" moment :)

These particular things, No; I'm not an athletic millionaire, so women usually start manipulating me only after we get together. The "biggest dick" maybe came the closest but it was more in line with "OH shit slow down wawawait, it hurts a little, give me a sec".

wardenferry419 · 2024-06-04T13:09:19+00:00

First girl I dated, me 25 and her 21, said everyone of her previous boyfriends (5 or 6) raped her. Weird sorta guilt trip to put on a guy.

Ok-Dust-4156 · 2024-06-04T13:17:17+00:00

No, never. Those tricks are cheap and can't work for any guy who know his worth and not dumb as rock. Tricking somebody into commitment is a very dumb idea by itself, you'll have to live with that person somehow. And it will lead to a lot of pain and troubles in the future. Including waste of time that could be used to find a guy who don't have commitment issues. In same time woman who can do those things aren't a women that decent men want, so of course nobody would want anything serious with them.

Those things only work on low-tier dumb men, I assume there's an enitre world of them and women who are around them somewhere down there.

Pegmaster6969696969 · 2024-06-04T14:10:06+00:00

Yeah, i got this after sex.

"It's been a while since a was with a guy, but after meeting you I felt like you were the one for me."

I was like "Uhm okay, let's see where this sex goes and maybe I'll consider a compromise, maybe she's different from other women I have met."

That bitch was 2 months pregnant at that time and "found out" a month later. I feel like she genuinely didn't know, but there were things she suspected but decided to not confront reality. Still, I have met high schooler's with higher self accountability and responsibility.

Yeah no compromise from me.

We went from the daily conversation to me telling her that I was gonna "give her time to figure things out", and that if we meet again we wouldn't be anything but casual. She got kinda annoyed at that but understood it, I feel she wanted to have all control.

I still left the door open for sex because, well, she is really good at sex Lmao

untamed-italian · 2024-06-04T14:11:14+00:00

Most women say shit like this. Just let them think it makes you like them more, write down which ones are liars, and only commit to the ones who never do this crap. Piece of cake.

edgyny · 2024-06-04T16:44:58+00:00

I'm too old for this shit and super neurotic and untrusting of everyone by default. (n.b. "The Manipulated Man" instantly made my eyes roll with how dumb the manipulations are and was one of the major frictions I had with TRP). But these in particular come across as desperate cringe game playing to me. At least read the Satanic Witch if you want to play games for christ's sake.

wtknight · 2024-06-04T17:02:32+00:00

No. I never dated women who had been with enough men to even try to use lines like this.

obviousredflag · 2024-06-04T17:05:10+00:00

No, women have not told me these things. I can see how making compiments is a way to get a man to like you more, but why would a story of how her friends get pumped and dumped make a man commit to her? Commitment is about if the man sees equal value and a match in the woman, not about wanting to refrain from breaking her heart because her friends got their hearts broken.

Girls that have been lower mating value than me tried to win me over by complimenting me, acts of service, gifts, being available, showing effort, planning dates, checking up on me, etc. You know, things that make me like them a little bit more. But ultimately, lower value is lower value and there is no reason to settle for less than i can get.

Women who have been equal value show equal effort, it's mutual courting and an understanding of being on the same level.

If a woman told me she was abused by exes, i will distance myself from her. Being attracted to abusers is not something i want to deal with. The childhood, the trauma, the issues, no thanks. She broke up with all her exes? Desperate attempt, like claiming all exes have been crazy. No, she picks her exes and i rather want to know why her relationships ended and what she learned from that.

This kind of manipulation doesn't work on me, and achieves the opposite. If she tells me my dick is big, i'd tell her don't lie to me, it turns me off and you look desperate.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2024-06-04T18:57:26+00:00

you have the biggest dick out of all the guys I’ve been with

Yes. But this is probably true.

“my girlfriends get pumped n dumped by guys”

No. They mostly said that her and her friends weren't like most girls

“my ex(es) were abusive”

Hell Yes.

“I broke up with all my exes”

No.

LaloTwinsDa2nd · 2024-06-04T19:53:25+00:00

Lmao Asexual Gold Digger is a woman

left_shoulder_demon · 2024-06-05T14:22:07+00:00

So far, no one has tried that on me.

The closest I got was a "can you stay here tonight so I feel safe?", and getting woken up at 2 AM with "I heard a noise, can you go and look?" and when I found nothing, "I'm way too wired to sleep now, can you do something to tire me out?"

I still fell for it because I found it cute that she was trying so hard to manipulate me.

jay10033 · 2024-06-05T17:11:23+00:00

"Sadfishing, however, is the act of manipulating others’ emotions for personal gain. While people naturally feel empathy and are inclined to offer help when they come across such posts, discovering that the person was feigning sadness can leave them feeling deceived and vulnerable."

"Researchers also found that during adolescence, boys tend to engage in sadfishing more frequently, but this inclination tends to decrease as they grow older. On the other hand, for girls, the tendency to sadfish actually increases with age."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2024/06/04/a-psychologist-explains-sadfishing-the-art-of-performative-suffering/?sh=401d3fc2adc5

Research shows this.

Sure_Tourist1088 · 2024-06-04T13:18:49+00:00

A woman told me I had a nice cock once. I figured it was just her way of saying even my cock was too good for her. I ejected soon after.

KayRay1994 · 2024-06-04T14:20:24+00:00

The first one is the most likely to be manipulation (even then, not for sure - but also, it frankly doesn’t matter) and for the rest, while they certainly can be manipulation and i’ve certainly had women say these things, i’ve also met who said these things and they were honest. Context is everything when it comes to a lot of a lot of these. What was the overall conversation you were having? Was she sharing it in a way of opening up or in a form of creating a power play? Did she say it when she was in a vulnerable state of when you were in a vulnerable state? or both? etc

I don’t think it’s fair to call these statements manipulation because, even though i have been manipulated by these statements by some, but others i’ve just been told it as a form of opening up and that was that

OkProfessional9405 · 2024-06-04T12:58:23+00:00

So yes to your question, but I had always seen phrases like “my ex(es) were abusive” as a complete failure to take any accountability.

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boom-wham-slam · 2024-06-04T13:21:58+00:00

Yes but none of these ways... with the exception of the "my ex was abusive" but I never took this as I should protect them, I took this as a red flag and usually not get in a relationship with them. What psycho only dates abusers, or just stays in an abusive relationship for a long time? Serious mental issues. Not for me.

Title	Have women tried to manipulate you to commit or treat them well by saying these things?
Author	asexualgolddigger
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Date	June 4, 2024 8:28 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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