Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule what do women get out of 50/50 relationship?

WanabeInflatable · 2024-06-30T08:23:01+00:00

I wouldn't want to be in relationships with woman who finds me unattractive, but stays in relationships because I pay.

Splitting the bill filters such women out.

If you want to pay for sex, just buy a prostitute.

K4matayon · 2024-06-30T07:13:41+00:00

It's a little odd to me that your question is based on the perspective that the woman will innately bring more value to the relationship and the man has to make up for it. You then go the extra mile and imply that the woman is offering sex to her partner. It takes two people to have sex, when she's offering sex to him he's offering sex to her and that's it. You're calling men entitled narcissists for having the audacity of thinking of themselves as equals to women. Women truly are wonderful.

Jazzlike_Worth_9908 · 2024-06-30T08:05:46+00:00

Wtf am I reading.

Women dating men they're not attracted to are NOT doing a favor to the guy. It's toxic and doomed to fail from the get go

It's taking advantage of someone's feelings unless clear communication that it's basically prostitution and that he shouldnt get attached as it's only a transaction.

DietTyrone · 2024-06-30T13:56:30+00:00

men who understand most men are unattractive to women but seethe at the idea of having to pay on dates.

So? Lizzo thinks she's on the level of Chris Evans. Men don't owe you because you're delusional. You're free to go secure that top 20% guy you feel entitled to.

What is a woman getting out of a 50/50 relationship with an unattractive man?

They get the equality they fought for. If they don't like it, they're free to keep Chasing Chads and see how that plays out.

At that point isn't she better off having a female roommate who she won't have to have sex with?

Sure, if the idea of an equal relationship is so abhorrent to her, she's free to stay single and get a roommate.

I can understand why men want these relationship but do they ever think how these relationship benefit anyone but themselves?

This is extremely ironic coming from someone who feels owed compensation for not dating someone in the top 20%, and likely not even in the top 20% themselves. What additional benefit is the average chick bringing to the table in this scenario? 🤔

This is an example of male narcissism and sexual entitlement I can't understand

I guess it's true that narcissists can't recognize their own behavior as narcissistic. You get the award for most ironic post.

shadowrangerfs · 2024-06-30T09:32:04+00:00

Why is the woman in a relationship with an unattractive man? Your answer to that question is what she's getting out of it.

Why is the man in a relationship with a woman who won't have sex with him?

To answer the main question, what a woman gets out of a 50/50 relationship is power. If a man is paying for everything, then he's the one who has the power and makes the decisions. If a woman wants to share the power, she must also share the responsibilities.

It also give her a feeling of independence. Many women don't want to totally rely on a man.

Cunning_Linguists_ · 2024-06-30T12:54:39+00:00

You're right. Since women want the same top 20% of men, they should be paying for the men. In fact, they should be completely providing for these men, and when these men decide to up and leave for a newer, younger wife, these women should just accept it because these men are rare.

abaxeron · 2024-06-30T08:59:50+00:00

seethe at the idea of having to pay on dates. What is a woman getting out of a 50/50 relationship with an unattractive man?

Are we talking dates or relationships?

The idea of 50/50 date is simply that a man does not have to pay for sex that he will never get.

50/50 relationships are rare, and I have no idea if any non-trivial share of men in them are unattractive.

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OtPayOkerSmay · 2024-06-30T07:16:51+00:00

50/50 relationships are sort of mythical, or at least tremendously underrepresented in real life for how much you hear about them.

If you believe in 80/20, you understand that there are lots of relationships where women are putting in the majority of the work to keep a 20%er; and lots of men in the 80% are putting in the majority of work to try to try to keep a spent woman happy.

CraftyCooler · 2024-06-30T07:17:41+00:00

Nothing - that is why women prefer to either be single or to be softcore prostitutes.

Bro_with_passport · 2024-06-30T11:54:32+00:00

The 80/20 rule just means that women are consistently rating their counterparts of the opposite sex as less attractive in an exaggerated manner. If this hypothetical woman doesn’t want to do something, she doesn’t have to do anything. I’m not sure why you think men have some sense of entitlement.

Ylduts · 2024-06-30T07:56:35+00:00

Society is better off. I lived pre internet, couples forming from common interests was exceedingly common. Post internet this is less common because most are focused on the physical.

SecondEldenLord · 2024-06-30T13:47:12+00:00

A woman wouldn't ever be in a relationship with a man she is not attracted to anyway, so your question is invalid.

Contrapuntobrowniano · 2024-06-30T14:01:43+00:00

This is an example of male narcissism and sexual entitlement I can't understand

Nah, you're just womenpilled, which is stupid.

DBEternal · 2024-06-30T14:33:25+00:00

I'm attractive but the problem is that women find like 90% of men unattractive, so you're automatically dismissing 90% of men calling them entitled for asking for equal partnership

purplish_possum · 2024-06-30T15:01:42+00:00

Apples and oranges. Unless you're asserting that women are basically prostitutes who trade sex for fancy dinners when they're young and a nice house in the suburbs when they're older.

No-Rough-7390 · 2024-06-30T12:28:03+00:00

Women want kids, they want a wedding (not necessarily a marriage), and their FOMO and biology will push them into a “50/50” dynamic they’d never choose otherwise.

Making necessity a virtue is like a disease today (possibly along with the way hormonal BC fucks up how they perceive men they want to fuck) and it’s precisely why marriage is down, birthrates are down (women don’t find the guys they do pick worthy of having their genes propagated), and divorce is as high as it is.

Women THEMSELVES ask for an equal partner. Not sure how you missed the messaging on this one. And it’s because they know that any guy that signs up for that is inherently unequal to them.

Flash_4_Crab · 2024-06-30T08:53:30+00:00

The irony of your post. Narcissism is the EXCESSIVE admiration of oneself. If you're a 50% woman and think you're deserving a LTR with a 20% man you're a narcissist. The problem is you're ALSO unattractive but your narcissism doesn't allow you to see that.

PercentageForeign766 · 2024-06-30T12:25:31+00:00

I'd like to think that both men and women can take the lead in an aspect of a relationship and still see each other as 50/50. Being a slouch means you're not contributing, and being overzealous can be to domineering (depending on the circumstance).

I don't agree that the majority of men are unattractive to women, but paying for dates usually is a token of how one feels. If you are attracted to her, why not pay for a date? It's a kind gesture that indirectly tells her how you feel. I always see paying 50/50 is a sign that the relationship doesn't go any further beyond the date. This obviously isn't the rule, but it's more of a gesture that doesn't feel cheap or blindsight the other person when he or she works out it's not moving forward.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-06-30T13:28:47+00:00

What is a woman getting out of a 50/50 relationship with an unattractive man?

there's no 50/50 relationship, you're aways providing for other things like attention and protection also, the spending behavior of man and woman are different.

Involved_Currently · 2024-06-30T16:02:54+00:00

Women like men. They are different, provide a different dynamic. Im not going to date someone who just wants to be with me to stave off loneliness, or for social reason, if she doesnt actually value spending time with me.

Maybe im naive and deluded, but I also expect that women im dating find me attractive, so more than friend (whatever that means to them), finding out they dont would offend me. I do my best at sex, I know sex for sure isnt 50/50 so im going to have to put in the 80 there for sure and being aware of that im trying to do that, when im in the mood.

Wouldnt start dating anyone seriously without this stuff being present at least in the beginning years.

PMmeareasontolive · 2024-06-30T16:53:15+00:00

It's an entertaining but false premise because women don't settle, and they especially don't have sex unless they want to have sex.

If you want to try to claim "no, they have sex because they want the meal paid for, not because they want to have sex", you're wandering into a realm of absurdity.

All that for a Wendy's Doublestack?

Gravel_Roads · 2024-06-30T07:32:10+00:00

men who understand most men are unattractive to women

I understand that most men are not attractive to women, in that most PEOPLE are not attractive to most people. I'm a bisexual man, so I'm even attracted to both genders and I'm still not attracted to most people.

HOWEVER, you lost me with the second half:

but seethe at the idea of having to pay on dates

I don't even understand the correlation between "most people not being attractive" with "people being 50/50 in a relationship".

A relationship being 50/50 is just normal equal distribution of resources in a relationship. It's not why people enter a relationship - presumably, people enter a relationship because they like each other and want to spend their future together.

TL:DR - LOVE, duh. Company, support and someone to play with.

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-06-30T07:57:40+00:00

“most men are unattractive to women” based on what exactly, a two decade old OkCupid blog post? This is low effort trolling.

YasuotheChosenOne · 2024-06-30T07:50:41+00:00

Are we talking true 50/50? Or that 50/50 where dude makes 2x her income but they split the bills but he pays for damn near everything else and she complains about “unpaid labor” and shit?

Even we talking full 50/50 that means combined their spending power is doubled, and if she has the looks advantage over him then it’s very likely he’s doing whatever to keep her happy.

So she likely gets a more loyal simp who she can abuse, exploit, cheat on, gaslight, and then leave for a more attractive partner 🤷🏾‍♂️😂

The easy W.

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Melodic_Structure928 · 2024-06-30T08:26:46+00:00

Simple a relationship won’t last, unless there’s some effort being applied on both ends. That why sayings like “it doesn’t matter how hot she is someone’s sick of her shit” exists. you won’t be able to sustain a relationship long term unless one plays an active and productive part. (This apply to both genders btw)

Ill use you own logic here, as now I’ll talk about women. cause you know they often do the same thing with men they actually like. Since these men are usually at the top of the attraction hierarchy And/or finical hierarchy, Why should said men enter a committed relationship with a girl who offers only sex when at the same time plenty of other girls are also willing to offer sex to him as well? How does a LTR relationship with an average girl benefit this kind of men with all the options available to him?

Women then try to shame this kind of guy into said LTR and force him to commit to her. Wouldn’t that be an example of female narcissism and sexual entitlement?

btw I agree with your statement no ones owned a relationship however this is a two way street. That’s why womens main complaints in dating are usually that the guys they like are never committing or are playing them, its cause these men are usually significantly more attractive then the women there dating and just want casual sex.

thedarkracer · 2024-06-30T07:51:35+00:00

What is a woman getting out of a 50/50 relationship with an unattractive man?

Bcz women stress how they are equal to men so why can't they show it? It's hypocritical. Also, you are putting your own value in terms of money so ....

that point isn't she better off having a female roommate who she won't have to have sex with?

So you are saying a woman doesn't want sex? Or a straight woman doesn't like having a dick in her? Ofc she desires sex too, a girl has needs right?

Cyrrow · 2024-06-30T08:11:46+00:00

Presumably she finds the man attractive, why else is she going on a date with him? Is she butthurt that even ugly men insist on cheap coffee dates so as to not waste their time?

63daddy · 2024-06-30T15:42:10+00:00

Hypergamy ensures relationships are not 50/50 overall.

just_a_place · 2024-07-01T06:31:47+00:00

Your error is in believing that the 80% - in the 80/20 rule - are the ones going on those 50/50 dates.

Only the top 20% have enough sexual credit to make a girl pay. That's why girls pay, they are paying the entrance fee to have access to that top dawg.

Dertross · 2024-07-01T15:28:02+00:00

I'm so glad that I was born as this attitude began and not centuries in the future after it leads to the collapse of civil society. It's really fortunate we'll all be dead before the real consequences start happening.

This is an example of male narcissism and sexual entitlement I can't understand

Ah yes, that narcissism and entitlement of extrapolating trends and educated guessing on what happens when the population shrinks and no one wants to do real work because everyone is out for themselves because they have no family or community.

Women are "supposed" to do 50/50 relationships ( more accurately, monogamy ) for similar reasons people are "supposed" to pay taxes. Society doesn't function when enough people collectively decide "well -I- don't get any benefit from this, I'll stop paying forward into the system"

SwaySh0t · 2024-06-30T09:10:26+00:00

Women get to brag about the guy all her friends want to fuck. Aka me. That’s all that matters. I’m nothing more than a status symbol really… an attractive guy she’s actually caught( first time in her life probss) that she compares to a designer hand bag at best. That’s me. King dingaling.

Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule what do women get out of 50/50 relationship?

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