Trans misandry is real.

Gayfunguy · 2025-01-09T20:21:37+00:00

Wow feminists are transphobic and apparently... children "boys are icky".

YetAgain67 · 2025-01-09T19:30:56+00:00

It just goes to show how much of feminist and (alleged) progressive thought is just female privilege and supremacy.

Feminists hate men so much they are now mask-off throwing a part of the LGBTQ+ community under the bus by virtue of their identity.

Edit: Also, this is just another notch in the belt of "trans misogyny is more rooted in hatred of men, actually" that people REFUSE to acknowledge.

People, terfs, right wingers, etc don't hate trans women because they hate women. They hate trans women because they quite literally, with their own words, refuse to accept they are women. Hence, they are men. And with that comes the belief that trans women are just messed up and pervy men.

Schadrach · 2025-01-09T19:36:24+00:00

All I can think to that is "Congratulations trans men, they're treating you like cis men! Welcome to the man club, it may not be as nice as you were told!"

Butter_the_Garde · 2025-01-09T20:16:38+00:00

This is sad and all but

Masculinity is a privileged position in white supremacist capitalist heteropatriarchy.

Are they just playing fucking bingo with these words?

Revolutionary-Focus7 · 2025-01-09T21:02:10+00:00

One of the many reasons I, as a trans male, no longer consider myself a feminist. I'm proud a being a straight man because being a straight man is who I authentically and immutably am, and if that makes me a Gender Traitor to women or the LGBT community, I don't care; you can't force me to live in shame and denial just because you think manhood is unclean and evil.

Tbf though, a lot of this isn't coming from feminist women, but from tucutes who are scared of masculinity.

Wauron · 2025-01-09T21:08:40+00:00

If any trans men read this, stay strong guys. While I can't relate to what you're going through, I've had times where I was considering ending it and harmed myself. Still not exactly doing great but much better than before. Not going to lie to you and tell you it's all going to get better, I just want you to know that you have my sympathy and I truly hope you're doing okay.

hefoxed · 2025-01-09T22:01:24+00:00

There's post in trans subs (primarily r/ftm) of trans men thinking of de-transitioning or hesitent to even start due to this issue. :/

Sufficient_Heat_610 · 2025-01-09T23:26:01+00:00

Glad this is being recognized. These people are dangerous. Don't bring them into ANY space. If they hate men, they hate us ALL.

xGenjiMainx · 2025-01-09T20:29:41+00:00

Fuck all of this i wish this shit didnt exist

Dungeon_Master_Lucky · 2025-01-09T21:24:20+00:00

It's 100% real, I implore y'all to find somewhere other than r/FTMMen that actually respects men and masculinity in a LGBT space

Sleeksnail · 2025-01-10T00:01:09+00:00

Goddamn it must be lonely to be a trans man. I can't even imagine the suicide rate.

Bros, feel free to DM me if you want to vent. I'm listening.

TheDankmemerer · 2025-01-09T19:36:46+00:00

"Trans men are men even when thats not a positive statement"

I think an artery popped in my brain reading that. Trans Men are Men and anyone else can fuck right off, especially if they don't think that's a good thing. I've come to know a few Trans guys. Chill guys, all of them. They are themselves and if you don't think that that's a good thing? I'm sorry, that's bs.

Predator_Driver103 · 2025-01-10T04:58:07+00:00

I’m a trans guy and I can attest, we deal with a lot of misandry the same way as cis guys, especially if we’re stealth (=non-disclosing). Sucks, but also kinda affirming. But yes, puts a lot of things into perspective.

That misandry is one of the MAIN reasons I left the LGBT community. Not the only reason, but definitely received a lot of pushback from them for simply being who I am and minding my own business. They do see you (esp women) as a threat (unless you are non-passing = they don’t really see you as a man).

Attackoftheglobules · 2025-01-10T02:40:35+00:00

The right-wing radicalisation process is often paraphrased as “just hate the same people we do and you can be one of us.” People easily forget that most political in-groups work this way. Acceptance is the outlier.

dekadoka · 2025-01-09T19:36:58+00:00

What, the gender which psychologically has been shown to have the greatest fear, nervousness, and in-group bias also has high rates of sexism and racism? Who would have guessed.

ParkerPoseyGuffman · 2025-01-10T00:51:01+00:00

Lmao this is some intense trans inclusive radical misandry, never seen it like this

valtarri · 2025-01-10T15:35:33+00:00

As a trans guy myself I've been pissed off for /years/ at how casual misandry within feminist communities was literally going to lead to this shit, and no one took me seriously and even tell us to shut up because "misandry isn't real or systemic according to my feminist manifesto, get over it, loser". Hatred and prejudice don't have to be "systemic" to fucking hurt. God I hate how backwards everything has become

Giimax · 2025-01-09T23:33:02+00:00

> Trans men were socailised as men, and as such they benefit form misogyny rather than suffer from it.

I feel like people tend to forget that trans people dont just, pop out of thin air. No, not all of them were socialised as their gender (most of them probably aren't), some of them will never present as their gender at all (a lot of them probably won't), some of them will never even figure out their identities.

trans people can possess an entire length of experience that might be ongoing of presenting/feeling as their agab.

no matter how trans inclusive you claim to be if you make sweeping generalisations, especially fucked up bioessentialist ones, you're hitting a sizable population of trans people who aren't fully transitioned and fully confident, which is likely even the majority of them.

Scared_Note8292 · 2025-01-10T01:23:15+00:00

This is basically TIRF (trans-inclusionary radical feminism) for you. They will basically reduce everything to gender and ignore that opression is not black and white. There have been instances of trans men who were victims of corrective rape such as Brandon Teena.

https://prismreports.org/2019/08/09/there-is-a-hidden-epidemic-of-violence-against-transmasculine-people/

Trans men are also specially vulnerable to violence as well.

Quinlov · 2025-01-09T19:57:50+00:00

Sorry but as a gay man I am closer to chaotic good than lawful evil

No-Knowledge-8867 · 2025-01-10T08:55:59+00:00

Too often, everyone is concerned with the trans exclusionary part of terf, but the radical feminist part is just as bad

eli_ashe · 2025-01-10T18:16:43+00:00

proximity to masculinity is proximity to being targeted for hate.

fascism always targets men primarily. the targeting of men, be it transmen, or transwomen (treated as if men), queer men, straight men, black men, white men, etc.... doesnt matter as much as folks may think.

what matters is that it is some category of men that are targeted.

the 'good women' avoid those men, but the men are the main targets, bc people fear men. That fear, phobia, of men spreads especially among the feminine population.

'protect women' is the fascists call.

this has to be addressed in leftist and feminists spaces.

Sanguiluna · 2025-01-09T22:30:06+00:00

Really putting the F in TERF…

Indoda98xx · 2025-01-12T02:08:51+00:00

Bisexual man here.

I have generally enjoyed LGBT culture and community but recently it’s become kinda hard. There is a decent amount of male bashing, demonizing of men and diminishing of male suffering, contributions and experiences.

I have several trans male friends and they say it’s hard for them too. They get categorized as almost “pseudo men” by more mainstream feminists and treated like deformed women who aren’t really men. TERFs treat them like mentally screwed up women and other varieties of feminist treat them like traitors to womankind. It’s disturbing and deeply offensive to me. I appreciate my trans brothers and hope they can find more camaraderie in male spaces.

Great posting.

Sleeksnail · 2025-01-10T00:23:03+00:00

And "intersectional analysis" is really just a repackaging for what most of anarchism has been doing for hundreds of years.

Disastrous_Average91 · 2025-01-12T22:50:36+00:00

True. I’m a trans man and I always see this stuff. I will say in general, trans women have it harder but I think a lot of that is also due to misandry. They’re seen as dangerous and a threat to women bc transphobes see them as men.

CR9_Kraken_Fledgling · 2025-01-09T22:51:37+00:00

What no intersectionality does to a mf

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2025-01-10T00:42:46+00:00

Surprise surprise, the victim narrative that we let go unchallenged for two plus decades led to this.

gazerbeam-98 · 2025-01-10T07:38:15+00:00

First day being a man? Welcome to hell.

Altorrin · 2025-01-11T18:46:01+00:00

trans men have systemic power that they can and do leverage against women, including cis women, regardless of the status or type of their transition

Are they really saying a closeted trans man or a trans man who literally just started transitioning has systemic power over women???

ParhTracer · 2025-01-10T09:55:04+00:00

That is a wall of pure crazy.

steed_jacob · 2025-01-10T19:37:00+00:00

Where on earth are you finding these takes? Have these people seen the sun lately?

ashfinsawriter · 2025-01-13T09:36:39+00:00

I'm a trans man, and yep. I don't really feel safe anywhere because of this. Even in trans male communities themselves this sort of attitude is pervasive.

Your_Nipples · 2025-01-09T21:59:56+00:00

I'm curious but I'm not reading that

StandardFaire · 2025-01-09T22:19:58+00:00

I agree that the “trans community” is too vague and nebulous of an idea, and…

That’s about it

AirlineUnited · 2025-01-10T08:10:38+00:00

Hey, may i ask you where are these screenshots from?

ameyaplayz · 2025-01-10T15:13:48+00:00

tirm(trans inclusive radical misandrist)

throwburneraway2 · 2025-01-10T23:39:27+00:00

Chronically online takes all of them, they recede to the internet and overanalyze their bad beliefs over and over again and this is the result of that

Optimal_Offer_5663 · 2025-02-05T16:32:41+00:00

The tranny part reminds me of the time a friend/classmate signed my yearbook and wrote in something along the line of "have a good year , you fucking tranny".

😠 I'm lawful evil, not chaotic evil...this is slander

But also, I've heard it's very common for trans men to end up losing friendships, especially with women.

https://glaad.org/reference/trans-terms/ I searched up about tranny, and ended up reading through this reference. Who the hell breaks down topics like this? I think I'm falling in love.

Can depression make you dramatic, I feel like I've lost footing in reality these days?

DesoLina · 2025-01-09T20:44:10+00:00

Let them fight

purpleblossom · 2025-01-10T00:39:15+00:00

I’ve always felt the worst part of transmisandry or transandrophobia is the claimed that “being a trans man mean you are the oppressor now” except we will never be on the same level as cis men when we are discriminated against by them as well, so no, we don’t suddenly “become privileged” by transitioning.

zoonose99 · 2025-01-09T20:34:14+00:00

Would you call someone an anti-racist if all they did was repost other people’s racism?

What other kind of advocacy involves collecting examples of people saying dumb shit on the internet?

Don’t men deserve actual organization, collaboration, legislation instead of this constant stream of pearl-clutching over how much misandry there is in the world?

Title	Trans misandry is real.
Author	Forgetaboutthelonely
Upvotes	289
Comments	153
Date	January 9, 2025 7:27 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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