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Totally worth it.

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April 6, 2013
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Title Totally worth it.
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dropcode

Upvotes 746
Comments 195
Date April 6, 2013 3:48 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/1bsstq/totally-worth-it/
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Comments

[–][deleted]325 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Hahahaha, you were banned for posting their own phrases.

[–]chowder13889 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Feminists are stupid.

[–]snuffletrout301 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Not all of them, just the stupid ones

[–]man_and_machine64 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

damnit Tautology. why you gotta be right all the time?

[–]ordinaryrendition33 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because tautology is tautology.

[–]man_and_machine14 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

damnit.

[–]Edgemere5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Relevant

[–]StopsatYieldSigns14 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

WHOA HOLD ON THERE BUDDY

"If 1,000,000 people join this group, there will be 1,000,000 people in it."

That, my friend, is not necessarily true. If Joe is the 999,999th person to join the group, but he leaves before the one millionth person joins, 1 million people will have joined the group, but there will not be one million people in it.

I realize that you didn't actually make this particular comic, but the inconsistency is still your fault.

[–]Pecanpig4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Also, the founder does not "joib" the club, he starts it. So even if 1,000,000 people joined and nobody left, that would put the total count to 1,000,001.

[–]YouDislikeMyOpinion-1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Tautology gonna tautology.

[–]WhiteThrone1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Feminist Response : Tautology don't real.

/sarcasm

[–][deleted]16 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Either stupid or evil. I like to believe most are just stupid

[–]Thomp8912 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think Hanlon's razor can be applied here.

[–][deleted]0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

nawalt. enough are.

[–]captain_slaughter0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

But that is all of them. http://i.imgur.com/aSQYt.gif

[–][deleted]0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

which is all of them

[–]smasho3-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nope they are stupid

[–]Ragnar09-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No they are all idiots

[–]lol_wats_a_reddit4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

They same the same about men's rights activists and nothing gets accomplished. Try to be open minded to their ideas and maybe they'll do the same to us

[–][deleted]-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If feminists are stupid how are they managing to oppress you?

[–]earbudz1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

too much free time while men are working full time jobs.

[–]ragenFOX-45 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

feminists are women....hmm...interesting.

[–]MechPlasma-27 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You said "women", but I think you meant "stupid". I know, I know, it's a very common typo to make. I mean, the keys are like right next to each other!

Edit: wait, how did this get -23 points?! Did... did people not realise I wasn't saying anything about women whatsoever?

[–]brilliant_fungi8 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're starting to sound like the people you're making fun of for being irrational and generalizing.

[–]canad931 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I like that we downvote those we disagree with instead of banning them. Censorship looks good on absolutely no one.

[–]brilliant_fungi0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Exactly, it's not fair to only listen to the perceived "correct" opinion. It'd just be a circle jerk of agreement if we did that.

[–]CaptnAwesomeGuy7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Stop

[–]ragenFOX-5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Wow look at the karma! I should never make such mistake anymore! So many people are hurt and now are taking stool softener for they got so many dildos up their butts their buttholes swallowed them "it hurts" I heard them scream.

[–]ghebert001157 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I have nothing but pure admiration for what you just did.

[–]dropcode87 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I actually posted it last night and got banned for it this morning. I snapped a pic right after I posted it because I had a sneaking suspicion I'd be banned.

[–]ghebert00139 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Being banned by misandrist subreddits is like a badge of honor...I've been banned by everyone from srs, feminisms, 2x (that one was my own doing...I was being purposefully antagonistic) and one or more of the anarchist subs. A lot of them ban users who don't even post or comment there but are simply posting/commenting in mensrights.

[–]MechPlasma41 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

(that one was my own doing...I was being purposefully antagonistic)

There's no honour in that. Being censored is only something to be proud of if you're speaking up for what you think is right, and are doing it in a polite and constructive way. If you're intentionally being a jerk, you deserve to be kicked out.

[–]goodknee7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

why would an anarchist sub have a problem with that?

[–]ghebert00119 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't know if it's anarchists in general or just the reddit anarchist subs but they seem to be very pro-radical-feminism.

[–]CrossHook26 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Which is ironic because feminism relies on federal funding. It couldn't exist without the state supporting it.

[–]oskArtist21 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Stefan Molyneux calls it socialism with panties.

[–]hardwarequestions6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I love the intersection of my AC beliefs and men's rights.

[–]canad933 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Coincidentally, the marxist sub is extremely feminist.

[–]tiasg-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm sorry, but this strikes me as a rather silly claim. Feminism is a concept, an ideology advocating and supporting the rights and equality of women. Maybe the feminist movement in whatever country you are based wouldn't have the same scwhung without state founding, but feminism as an ideology is not based in any country or tied to any state government any more than the men's right movement.

[–]Edgemere2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

He never said the men's doesn't need federal funding too :P But you're right, in a way, equality, in a thought, shouldn't need federal funding.

[–]goodknee1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

well thats a bummer..I've always been fascinated by anarchists..I'm not one, but i've always found them to be very interesting..

[–]oskArtist5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

See shit like /r/anarchafeminism

[–]goodknee1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

but...but the sidebar says they're not for anyone having power over everyone.. :(

[–]Cyridius2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Ideologically speaking, there is actually a Feminist subset of Anarchism.

[–]goodknee1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I just don't get people sometimes..

[–]jianadaren13 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You'd think banning people would be contrary to anarchist principles - I guess expediency is more highly valued than intellectual consistency.

[–]pinkdynamite3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I dont see how being banned from 2X is worthy of pride.

[–]ghebert0012 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Didn't say it was...other than admitting I brought that on myself I should have probably specified that it wasn't necessarily one I was proud of...although they did ban me without any type of warning and never responded to any PM from me asking why they banned me without warning.

[–]Beiber_h0le692 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I saw something on a feminist sub reddit about consent that was bullshit so I said no means yes and yes means anal and got banned.

[–]Purp-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

get banned from /r/relationships for good measure

[–]almightybob171 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Google Chrome spell checker, the new arbiter of words. Move over dictionaries, your days of promoting patriarchy are over!

[–]StandsInRefuse58 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misandry

Old Webster (with a capital W) knows what misandry means. If it's good enough for him...

EDIT: Grahmmer correction.

[–]DemonOWA99 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

misandry

Date: circa 1909

"These MRAs just made this word up in the last few years."

[–][deleted]64 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Webster was an over privileged white male and he used his evil white penis to change the date in the books.

[–]Ryuragnarok16 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I laughed too hard at this, imagining an old man literally writing with his penis...

[–]rocketman073912 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

literally whiting with his penis

FTFY scum

[–][deleted]6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Scathing observation!

[–][deleted]2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good find good sir!

[–]Gr8WhiteGrammarNazi2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Webster has a capital W.

[–]StandsInRefuse6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good call. Now you've made me look stupid. I think I'm supposed to insult you now or something?

[–]Gr8WhiteGrammarNazi6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Any reflexively enraged outburst of defensiveness will do.

[–]ThetaOmega-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexism

Webster still has work to do (ex, especially: discrimination against women)

[–]ZeroError7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

True, but that's not relevant to this discussion.

[–]double-happiness45 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

MISANDRY DON'T REAL!!!

[–]HoundDogs11 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That .gif made me swallow my tongue.

[–]ordinaryrendition1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

We might have to use the heimlick maneuver.

[–]rusty8909 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's a good thing I don't suffer from seizures.

[–]ReaganSmashK37 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What's best about this is that it isn't an "anti-feminist" picture that you often see on this subreddit when you see a screenshot of an MRA in a feminist sub. This is just a "Your logic is bad and you should feel bad." post. You could post this to r/funny, r/subredditdrama, lots of subs, this is just gold.

This is also really the only screenshot of a MRA in a feminist sub that wasn't just annoying anti-feminism that takes attention from posts more directly about Men's rights. Kudos to you.

[–]Cid42034 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Transphobic also isn't recognized in browsers. It's a real word just like misandry is, so I like bringing that up to show how fucking stupid it is to decide if a word is real or not based on a browsers half-assed spellcheck.

[–]cj5rox6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Transphobic shows up on google dictionary, but registers on misspelling when typed out. Weird.

[–]Greyfeld28 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I genuinely lol'd at this.

[–]hflol28 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How is against men's rights ok but against women's rights isn't?

[–]AlwaysCorrects3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Maybe a different label is in order... the connotations to women's rights are deeply ingrained, but to say you're /r/againstmisandrycrimes or maybe /r/neutralgenderequality and even though the latter would probably be a better choice, it might attacked relentlessly and require heavy modding.

[–][deleted]12 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

TIL Kyriarchy.

[–]baskandpurr16 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I deliberately avoid learning these words until somebody uses them in a context where they appear to have a meaning beyond making the writer sound like they studied something.

Currently debating whether to figure out what intersectionality means to feminists. I know what intersections are, I know the purpose of ending a word with 'ality'. I don't see the purpose attaching the two in that context.

But maybe that's just me, I'm a stickler for proper conjunctionality.

[–]InflatableTomato37 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Intersectionality is what happened the moment feminists discovered the mathematical operator "plus". So basically the most groundbreaking innovation in feminism since whoop dee fucking doo.

It's just a word to say that you can have more than one tick in your feminist approved "privilege card". Basically you add one point for each tick that you're able to put in the female/black/poor/straight/trans column and subtract one for each in male/white/rich/straight/cis. The higher the score you end up with, the more oppressed you are.

It's being sold as resolution to every conflict, but the content of the privilege and oppression "columns" is not up for discussion, and doesn't address other very obvious issues such as the fact that data unequivocally points to the fact that poor males are much worse off and higher in number than poor females.

[–]lol_wats_a_reddit3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If I had money you would so get gold

[–]Shiroke3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Here's an example: http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1avgnk/i_generalize_men_for_my_own_safety_but_men/c91ajke

[–]dropcode2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

shit man, to the fucking top with you. I wish I had more upvotes to give.

[–][deleted]13 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Intersectionality is when a person is 'victimized' by multiple facets of their 'identity' at once. For example, a black homosexual transgendered disabled fat woman is extremely, extremely intersectional.

Sorry I ruined it for you.

[–]baskandpurr10 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's more limited than I imagined. I had decided that it probably meant some kind of meeting or overlapping of points of view. But of course not, it's feminist vocabulary; need more words for victimisation, other points of view are irrelevant.

[–]iRommel6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

we should change the definition of "intersectionality" as when a person is victimized by a car as the person crosses the intersection.

[–]amishbreakfast3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Is this like being a gay country-western musician? Because neither cowboys nor gays will accept you as one of their own?

[–]Madocvalanor2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So I guess a bi sexual mixed race middle class american places pretty high on their list of rather or not I'm privellaged? Huh guess it doesn't matter that I have sight in only one eye

[–]dysgraphia_add1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Or disabled men.

[–]MechPlasma4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Damnit, I just looked up Intersectionality on Wikipedia. Where the article has such sub-headings as "Interlocking matrix of oppression" and "Standpoint epistemology and the outsider within".

I fear that if I look up what those are supposed to mean, I'll just end up here forever.

[–]robert3290710 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A martyr and a hero.

[–]Ma99ie9 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You have my eternal respect.

[–]HoundDogs9 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Wow. Well done. I really don't get why the concept of misandry is so crazy. If someone hates women as a group it's misogyny. If they hate men as a group, it's misandry. It's not that hard. Denying that misandry is a word makes them look unspooled. And by my calculation, internet feminists don't need more things to make them look crazy.

[–][deleted]3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Exactly! It like Adria Donglegate Richards saying that only white people can be racist. Women say that there no such thing as women who hate men.

[–]blackedout7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I just found out about that subreddit... That's certainly something.

[–]qiezidaifu7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I just saw it now too and am actually pretty shocked. I almost couldn't comprehend if I was in fact the one being trolled. Would I for instance be allowed to make a /r/againstblackrights, or /r/againstchildrens rights? I wouldn't think so, because that would probably constitute a hate crime...

[–]dropcode1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The name of the subreddit is purposely meant to annoy you, but really they're just against the mensrights movement, not necessarily against mens rights as the name implies.

[–]MechPlasma2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Don't bother posting in it. Or even caring about it. It's not so much about disagreeing with MensRights as it is cherrypicking stupid statements and misinterpreting smart ones.

[–]JamesRyder0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you're lucky, they'll put you on the list too! Unfortunately they've stopped posting it in reddit, it's distributed through their IRC now.

[–][deleted]7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[Picard]
How the hell do you even know those words??

I think you’re spending way too much time in that shithole.

Get out a bit. Healthy women are not that bad. And there’s even guys to go out with. :)

[–]sizzletron6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A hero. That's what you are.

[–]Thisismynetlife6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The hypocrisy of these stupid fucking people knows no bounds. What weak minded people.

[–]Kamen9355 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This post is being brigaded by /r/againstmensrights

http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/1bszvn/mras_arent_cisgender_theyre_normal_more/

[–]amishbreakfast8 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

/r/MensRights and /r/Feminism should get together and just have the most awkward prom ever.

[–]dropcode4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

looks like this comment is also being brigaded :P

[–][deleted]5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why do you have +44 upvotes on yourself? That's rather pathetic if you use an alternate account to try and upvote youself.


Edit: Rather than wait 10 mins to post, here is my reply


It should never be that way. The only way RES adds points to your name like that is if you upvote yourself with an alternate account as you would not need to upvote a comment on said main account, but it's an automatic upvote. The only other way is to click the res tag and change the number of votes, which doesn't quite make any sense to do so.

Just saying, it's fishy.

[–]dropcode2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

First, how would it count upvotes on myself from an alternate account? second, I have another account but I've never upvoted myself from it. For some reason it's just always been that way.

[–]dr_pepper_351 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, saw this too. Who ever took that screenshot had given 'Dropcode' 44 upvotes. Or Dropcode gave whoever made that post 44 upvotes.

[–]iMADEthis2post5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I got banned from there yesterday for pointing out their use of gendered insults against males. Apparently they didn't like them being compared to slut, slag or whore. It's just another SRS scum site, I only popped my head in as I was conversing with a chap who identified as a male feminist. I reviewed what I found there and answered the rest of his questions on why I found the feminist forum here so bigoted. I was then banned from /r/feminism and /r/askfeminists after calling the user /u/majeric an idiot for posting This link and refusing to post any supporting evidence over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Also the moderator who banned me /u/Demmian Is a shifty bastard.

[–]hardwarequestions-1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Really? I've always had a good experience with demmian.

[–]iMADEthis2post1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

He banned my SO, an egalitarian feminist and refuses to say why, answering no inboxes no matter how polite, the guy is an utter prick.

[–]hardwarequestions1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Interesting. Maybe I've just been lucky as I honestly haven't had that type of experience.

[–]iMADEthis2post1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It looks like he is very careful about what he says, which is probably why he has given no response to my SOs banning. One person does not have the right to control the mentality of an important forum like he does, he is breading hatred by insuring only one view is expressed. You have to ask yourself what he has to gain from making /r/feminism look like an anti male distopia.

[–]Caelamid4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Petty. But a perfect match for the pettiness you faced. So.. kudos. notbadface

[–]rightsbot3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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[–]Redskull6733 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

welcome to the banned club

[–]liquidfirex3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Is that not considered a hate group? Does reddit allow stuff like that?

[–]dropcode4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's not really a hate group. They're against the movement, not actually against mens rights. They consider those to be different things.

[–]Slicktoxic5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just the same as some men are against the feminist movement, but not against women's rights.

[–]dropcode0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

equally valid positions? or equally invalid positions?

[–]Slicktoxic2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Anyone who denies the rights of another human being and demands more rights for themselves is invalid in my opinion.

[–]rocketman07392 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Does reddit allow stuff like that?

Of course. Reddit has a very permissive policy--remember what a big deal it was when r/jailbait was banned?

Besides, you'd better be thankful Reddit allows stuff like that, because you can just bet that, if they didn't, there would be a zillion SRSers clamoring for /r/MensRights to be classified as a hate group and banned.

[–]LinkFixerBot2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

/r/jailbait

[–]rocketman07399 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That one was intentional, bot

[–]SneakyJap2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Never forget..

[–]BeautifulLieyes3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't quite get what you did.... Maybe I'm just stupid... but an explanation would be welcomed.

[–]dropcode7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

members of that subreddit were making a snarky joke about misandry not being real, so I made a snarky reply showing them a bunch of things commonly used in feminist theory that "aren't real" according to their logic. They're all actually valid terms, though some here might disagree.

[–]tankertodd3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You, sir, are the sand in their lube.

[–][deleted]3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

TIL there is a sub dedicated to being AGAINST men having rights... That is fucked up

[–]Victory_Disease2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Pretty sure it's spelled Kyriarchy.

[–]AlexReynard1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Pretty sure it's spelled Kyrie Eleison. ;)

[–]rocketman07391 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

"kyrios" is Greek for "lord"--so yes, it's the same thing

[–]AlexReynard1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I know, I just wanted to make a pun.

[–]javastripped2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

WTF ... there's an AGAINST mens rights movement?

W T F

[–]dropcode4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

yup. And they're a "friend of the fempire"! :)

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSMeta/comments/r6h1s/the_srs_fempire_directory/

[–]HokesOne-1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No we're a counter movement to the men's rights movement. As in, against the MRM or as more common being from reddit, against /r/mensrights and related subs. We work to expose the rhetoric dressed up as research and the violent misogyny that's being promoted in these here parts.

[–]ManUpManDown1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Haha, nice!

[–]bobuhbeartoe1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't get it. Why alienate those who could benefit from your cause? Any person who identifies as a man, be he cis or trans* or genderqueer, should be able to feel welcome to participate and feel accepted in a community fighting for civil rights.

I especially don't understand the point in bashing intersectionality, as that is a construct which could perform in any movement, even your own.

[–]dropcode7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I wasn't bashing any of those things. I was implying that just because misandry doesn't show up in google chromes spellcheck doesn't mean it has validity as a term. Just like all those other things.

[–]bobuhbeartoe-1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

yeah, I didn't necessarily mean I agreed with the comments you replied to in the OP, but more to your fellow MRAs replying to the hidden comment at the bottom of this thread, dehumanizing and taking away the agency of trans people by calling cis people normal, as well as pointing out a distinct lack of support for LGBTQ people in this sub.

Or maybe not, maybe those aspects are overshadowed within this sub

[–]Armageist7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

dehumanizing and taking away the agency of trans people by calling* cis people normal

nor·mal
/ˈnôrməl/

Adjective Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Noun The usual, average, or typical state or condition.

http://helenhill.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/ucla-study-estimates-approximate-700000-transgender-people-in-the-usa/

Key findings from the research brief are as follows:

 An estimated 3.5% of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay,or bisexual and an estimated 0.3% of adults are transgender.

Sorry, but 'cis' people are normal. That's the definition. Transgenders, etc. are not the norm, nor will they ever be. That's the cold hard truth. Whether they take offense to that is up to them. There's nothing wrong with NOT being normal. Unless you want to start a campaign to list Webster's Dictionary as a 'hate group' because the word 'Normal' is included within it or is used to define an average in the quest to re-write Reality. I hear book-burning is another way to get rid of such things. Besides, in many respects, we all have something that isn't 'within the norm', unique qualities that are only shared among certain people.

Furthermore:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape#section_1

British Home Office study (2005)

A 2005 study, "A gap or a chasm? Attrition in reported rape cases" was the largest and most rigorous study to date commissioned by the British Home Office on UK rape crime, from the initial reporting of a rape through to legal prosecutions. The study was based on 2,643 sexual assault cases (Kelly, Lovett, and Regan, 2005). Of these, police departments classified 8% as false reports.[5]

The researchers noted that some of these classifications were based simply on the personal judgments of the police investigators and were made in violation of official criteria for establishing a false allegation. Closer analysis of this category applying the Home Office counting rules for establishing a false allegation and excluding cases where the application of the cases where confirmation of the designation was uncertain reduced the percentage of false reports to 3%. The researchers concluded that "one cannot take all police designations at face value" and that "[t]here is an over-estimation of the scale of false allegations by both police officers and prosecutors."

If Feminists and LGBTQURS communities scoff at the 'statistical anomaly' that is False Rape accusations in their eyes, why should we take their community seriously when they represent an even smaller percentage of Humanity/America?

[–]YouDislikeMyOpinion2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Great fucking argument. I love it.

Thanks for taking the time to post it up.

I tried to debate feminists like that, look what happened to me. I'm banned.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1bil30/why_do_so_many_people_have_the_viewpoint_that/

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1blma3/if_a_man_asks_a_girl_for_sex_and_she_says_no_at/

I cornered them, and they stopped replying to me.

[–][deleted]5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I am a "G" man. I have never felt a lack of support in this subreddit

[–]frankie_q3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I am also a "G" and I also don't feel un-supported!

GMRA buddies 4ever

[–]dropcode1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It does exist here, but it exists everywhere. Those comments are all buried under downvotes because most of us here aren't bigoted.

[–]bobuhbeartoe0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's good to hear. But in regards to the downvoting, I meant that users like herbandmargie, memymineown, CrossHook, etc are positive in voting with their cissexism (and apparent inability to differentiate between sex and gender).

But I digress. I don't want to bash on people, just those pervasive ideas. Your comments throughout this thread haven't exhibited any of those bigoted thoughts, but your cohorts do.

[–]CedarWolf1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

While I appreciate your standing up for us, it often seems like neither group, feminist or MRA, gives a shit about those of us caught in the middle. We don't seem to be man or woman enough for either; instead we say "Hey, these views are compatible after all, let's try to work together."

And that cry often falls on deaf ears. So help me, we will stand on our own if we have to.

[–]rocketman07393 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The point isn't that none of the other things are real, the point is that the Chrome spellcheck is a ridiculous standard to judge by.

[–]bobuhbeartoe1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]EclipseClemens1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

YOU PROVED THAT WE ARE EITHER IGNORANT OR HYPOCRITES. OBVIOUSLY YOUR SEXISM KNOWS NO BOUNDS /s

[–]themangodess1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Here's the comment

I gave you an upvote.

[–]funnyfaceking1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

that is a much better way to get banned from /r/againstmensrights than what happened to me

welcome to the club

[–][deleted]1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

These bitches are so fucking stupid.. So just because google chromes spell check doesn't recognise the word misandry, men can't be hated?

Well will you look at that, google chromes spell check doesn't recognise the word recognise. I guess no such word exists.

http://i.imgur.com/K0B0YLj.png

[–]jrmunro112 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Could that possibly be because it's spelt recognize in the US? If you set your language to UK it shouldn't be underlined

[–][deleted]2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nope, using feminist "logic" if it has red squiggly lines under it it doesn't exist.

[–][deleted]1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A few more;

transman, transwoman, womyn, wombyn, heteronormativity

[–]20rakah1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

wombyn didn't realise the b was silent and ended up thinking about wombles.

[–]Planner_Hammish1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I got banned today via my first post on /r/SRSfunny for saying that a survey should use a different tense to better align with the point it was trying to make. I will wear it as a badge of honour.

[–]contrarianism1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How does it feel to be a sexist pig?!?!?

[–]Pecanpig1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Awesome...you definitely deserve your place on the front page for this one.

[–]Whisper1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Oh, god, the lulz...

[–]atomcrusher1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

http://i.imgur.com/NZFw6d1.jpg

[–]Tommy22551 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Don't worry, I fixed it.

[–]blinderzoff1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Hoist with their own petard.

The Bard would be proud!

[–]kurokabau1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That subreddit exists?!!?!

[–]YouDislikeMyOpinion0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I got banned for this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/1blagj/i_got_banned_from_ramr_without_reason_12_does/c99k7n6

[–]NovaLovesFrogs0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Firefox doesn't recognize the word mysogyny.

[–]HokesOne3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

mysogyny

that's because you can't spell.

[–]NovaLovesFrogs7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I checked the spelling before posting it.

How do you spell it, then?

Edit: Nevermind. Apparently the result when I looked it up was a misspelling. Yeah. Can't spell that word apparently. Sorry.

[–]roganrocks19970 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Great job bro. You shit on those sluts.

[–]HokesOne-2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

OMG i see me!

[–]blarghargh2-6 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

try writing misogyny and see what happens.

[–]dropcode2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Chrome recognizes it.

[–]blarghargh2-4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

that's the point...

[–]dropcode3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

yeah, I guess that kinda proves the existence of misandry in a really ironic way.

[–]blarghargh2-8 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

misandry:

men telling other men they're being silly.

[–]dropcode2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I still fail to see what your point was with this post? It's like you missed all the irony.

[–][deleted]2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Can men be hated? Yes or no. Simple question.

[–]blarghargh21 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

yes of course they can, but if the word misandry is to have any kind of meaning we need to use it in the same way misogyny is used, which is more than just hating women.

[–]replicult-28 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I hope that you weren't trying to imply 'cisgender' in particular isn't a valid or relevant term.

[–]herbandmargie22 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It isn't. It is a feminist buzzword just like rape culture. You are a victim.

Plus it was obviously stolen from their roommate in college's textbook.

[–]replicult-28 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Seriously?

I hope you're not cisgendered (though that'd be my guess), because otherwise I have no idea how you'd describe yourself.

[–]herbandmargie21 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Cisgendered is a made up word that is a play on "trans" that is used in "transgendered".

"cis" and "trans" are used in chemistry to denote molecule orientation.

They literally stole it from a chemistry textbook because they thought it sounded cool.

Sorry, I'll pass on the buzzwords made up by the oppressed social progressives.

[–]rocketman073911 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The prefixes "cis" and "trans" originated in Latin long before they were used in chemistry or gender studies.

[–]alecbenzer1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Seriously, I don't know what the whole downvote brigade is about. People "make up" words by attaching prefixes to other words all the time. Those words in chemistry were "made up" by some chemist once, too.I don't see how you can recognize "transgender" as a legitimate word but not "cisgender" as a word meaning the opposite of "transgender" when cis- means the opposite of trans-.

r/MR seems to be becoming increasingly fickle and less and less conducive to conversation.

[–]alecbenzer7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

They literally stole it from a chemistry textbook because they thought it sounded cool.

Um, what? Are you sure they didn't just "steal" the latin prefix cis- and affix it to the word "gender" to mean the opposite of "transgender", as "cis-" means the opposite of "trans-"?

Or are you also disputing the legitimacy of the word "transgender"?

[–]robert3290710 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Normal.

[–]memymineown9 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Normal.

[–]hardwarequestions-1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Haha...this is why I love you.

[–]themountaingoat9 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't have cystic fibrosis and find myself able to function just fine without a word to describe that about me. Cisgendered is used almost exclusively by people attempting to shame people for acting in the way their gender typically does.

[–]breads5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Cisgendered is used almost exclusively by people attempting to shame people for acting in the way their gender typically does.

Do you really think this?

[–]johnmarkley4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't agree with him, but if his exposure to the term comes mostly from online feminists/social justice advocates I can readily understand why he would reach that conclusion.

[–]Shiroke3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I've rarely seen it used positively.

It's usually used in a "privilege check" format.

[–]YouDislikeMyOpinion8 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If he is a man that was born a man and thinks of himself as a man, he would describe himself:

"A man that was born a man"

Change things around a bit, and he could say:

"A man that was born a woman"

It's really not that hard.

[–]CrossHook5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A man who thinks he's a man?

That's called normal.

[–]replicult3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Transmen are men who think they're men? How would the men who are not transgendered describe themselves?

[–]dropcode20 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I was trying to imply that, while those are all relevant terms, chrome spellcheck doesn't think so.

[–]YouDislikeMyOpinion3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good one.

[–][deleted]7 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If we're judging it by the same standard as Feminists judge the word misandry (IE: the all-powerful and all-knowing Google spellchecker), then it isn't.

Thankfully, most of us recognize how asinine that is.

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