I recently ended a things with a plate and damn she didn’t take it well.
She was annoying, but I told her I was simply too busy with work and other things and she was pushing for something more serious.
After I told her I had no intention of getting serious, out came the shaming tactics “You’re not a real man are you” “You’re just a fuckboy” “You’re ugly anyways” “Maybe I should send a guy friend to fuck you up” “You wasted 2 months of my life”
Now the whole time she’s saying all this, I kept thinking of the phrase women use to shame and shut down men who get aggressive over being rejected, “you’re not entitled to anybody’s love or affection”
So I decided to use it. I said “you’re not entitled to anyone’s love or affection” And she hit the roof telling me, “I can fuck any guy I want, I can have a new guy every day if I wanted”
I gotta admit, it felt pretty damn good to use that on a chick.
Well sweetheart, why are you wasting time arguing with me? Go do that then!!
Typical woman. Feels entitled to my time but if I was being billy beta and getting Aggro about her not committing I’d get told I’m not entitled to her love and affection
in addition to the "you're not entitled" statement, one I also enjoy is the Men are not machines you can put Sex Coins into until a relationship falls out.
If you ever want to see what entitlement looks like, turn a woman down when she straight up propositions you for sex. Even if you want to get laid, it's worth doing once in your life just to watch this truly spectacular display.
“You’re gay then.” is usually the response.
"I'd rather be gay than sleep with you, ugly/landbeast/ singlemomofthree"
Or even better: "If you were the last man on Earth, I wouldn't have sex with you."
"If I was the last man on Earth, you wouldn't be in line."
And watch the fireworks.
Hadn't even thought of this one. This is fucking gold. Hahaha
I would upvote this a thousand times if I could. Hell of a roast.
Usually more like "Fuck you, you fucking faggot!"... but yeah, that's a pretty common one.
You can get that reaction, just by ignoring them.
I did this to a girl I met at my local recently. She was totally dtf, but as I talked to her more, the more red flags and alarm bells went off that I should run and hide. When I told her we could be friends and hang out sometime she went insane. Telling other people at the bar that she ruined the best chance of her life. Dear lord.
You didn’t just dodge a bullet, you dodged a fucking howitzer shell
I've never had a random do this to me but I've had girls I've dated do this. They are relentless. "Let's have sex." No. "Come on." No. "It'll be great." No. Ad nauseum.
oh yeah, it's an amazing experience
It's not that big of a sacrifice. Very average women react like this too. So you may actually NOT want to fuck them when you see the desperation meltdown. Happens to me all the time.
Yup. Happened to me, wasn't feeling it. Walked away and E X P L O S I O N S.
Been there done that. I once met an old plate for a cofee and turned out she wanted sex. The years had been rough to her and she was now overweight. I initially agreed to her request for the good old times but in the way to my apartment I just could not do it; she was too gross, so I droped her before arriving. She initially took it well but next day she called by phone and launched such a massive barrage of insults and yelling that a rapper would blush. I hang the phone just to hear her later on my voice mail. I had to block her in any communication service.
its also a way to get false rape claims for rejecting her.
Friendly warning. Now that you've burned this woman, you can't fuck with her ever again. Don't let her anywhere near you. She'll be hatching a revenge plot if you do.
I don’t plan on it She legit annoyed the fuck out of me
i'm actually scared to wrestle with them, with my luck ill get a false rape accusation. i end things on a good note. leave them in a better shape than what you find them in i say.
The fact that this was said unironically sickens me. This false rape shit needs to stop.
Only a £200 fine these days!
Only if you arrived recently. It's some kind of 'new customers only' thing.
This is especially tough if you tend to have bdsm relationships
Even if you end things on a good note, they’ll say you took advantage of them and they are the victims. Women are getting really terrible nowadays because men are no longer present in their life or listened to. They think they are making it better for women but they can’t foresee they are making it way worse. No sane men wanna deal with the. You can literally see men on 1 side girls on the other in most rooms today. It’s a travesty to western society what has happened.
"You can literally see men on 1 side girls on the other in most rooms today. It’s a travesty to western society what has happened." Ah, no. That goes all the way back to the high school proms of the 1950's.
The Boy Scout camping rule for women.
She might already be planning a false rape allegation.
Probably fuming about it right now haha texting her biatches
This is true, all of it. I recently was single for a short period (separated from my wife). I quickly had several plates working. They all acted like they were happy for me when I told them I was getting back with my wife... but then one by one... Every single one of them hatched revenge plot against me.
So even if you have a good excuse, like their Disney fairytale getting back with the wife scenario , they will still seek revenge . I saw it with my own two eyes
What did they try and do to you?
They don't like it when you play the same game they play on us.
No they do not
It’s funny, all that tall about men “taking a hint” when getting rejected goes out the window as soon as the shoes on the other foot
If you reject her, there has to be an explicit reason why and it better be good
Girls demand an exit interview LOL.
Truth. Sex and the City brainwashed them all in to thinking they're entitled to "closure" aka a final tantrum.
Right? Fuck it. Just ghost them. You don't owe them anything.
There is so much truth in this. My last one wanted me to give a detailed reason why. It took 3 months after I walked away for her to leave me alone. It got a little ridiculous, because I blocked her on all social media and communication forms, she'd make new accounts to just reach out. I'm glad she finally got the hint.
Some people are just crazy, that’s crazy
3 months? Consider yourself lucky. Have one that still wants that and it's been 2 years now.
alpha widow maker you are then
LOL I quit a shitty job without 2 week notice. My post wall hag boss who is attracted to me, demanded me to pick up my last paycheck in person. I knew something was up because I havent had to do this with other jobs I have quit.
When shes giving me my last paycheck shes acting like a crazy ex-girlfriend saying "This is how you burn bridges" etc etc. Asking me Why this? Why that? Why havent you been replying to my texts and phonecalls?
I thought it was so odd, but it makes sense. She is a female, and is attracted to me.. so she wanted closure on why I left. Male bosses just move on, give you your last paycheck and move on with life.
Well, why didnt you fuck her then?
Why do we men have to fuck anything that moves? We gotta have standards if we are to be respected. All these betas with no standards are disrespecting us
How about he respects himself? It's right there:
My guess would be to avoid a false rape charge
That's what Adele's "Hello" is basically about.
That's what all her songs are about.
Every. Single. One. Of her songs that got popular was her singing about breakup.
Some, like Rolling In The Deep, are literally her singing about enacting some sort of revenge on the guy. "Don't underestimate the things that I will do". She's not a good person.
I ruined that song for my daughter by pointing out it's about a crazy stalker woman who should be avoided and never imitated.
I don’t really listen to her. Somehow that song penetrated the Led Zeppelin/GnR Force Field I keep around me at all times. I must have been in some public space where they were playing it.
And then male singers do their own version of it, not realizing the meaning behind the song. Just that it's popular and sounds good.
Time for us to stop giving them one then, level the playing field
I don't mind giving it to them....but they always wish they hadn't demanded it after. Haha.
It's just gathering evidence that it's not her fault, for her to use when she goes and talks her girlfriends' ears off about how much of a jerk you are.
Snowflakes gonna snowflake.
Haters gone hate Waiters gone wait Alligators gone alligate
Not that they'll find any of the reasons valid. Nope, it's your fault. Shame on you for rejecting me. Shame on you for being rejected by me!
One of the base reasons many women are hit hard by simple rejection is the reality of being accustomed to male time, attention, and random favors simply for being a woman and not much else. Beta Orbiters reinforce this problem...and it’s a huge problem.
When you consider that most women have been getting chased and sought after by men since age 15, it makes sense that "a man must be the problem" when a relationship goes south for any reason. After all – she’s a special snowflake and "deserves" the best of everything…this includes male time, attention, and random favors simply for being a woman. This narrative is supported and reinforced by general society, social media, advertisements, and mainstream media.
It's one of the reasons most women hate criticism and judgment - it points to responsibility, accountability, and the necessity for self-critique, correction, and self-improvement. Case in point – simply criticize a Single Mother, reject an overweight or grossly obese woman, or state a woman is unattractive consistent with your preferences…and witness the fallout. Men are even shamed for slut-shaming...whereas years ago women were the most vocal proponents against slut behavior because it raised expectations for OTHER women to engage sexual activity external to either marriage or at least a committed relationship.
It seems many women need a "narrative" why relationship failure is never their fault. It's surprising when women accept responsibility and accountability.
Conversely – most men have been accustomed to criticism since the age of reason (ages 6 to 9, depending on the child) and are used to rejection since the overwhelming majority have experienced this reality since their early teen years. The occasional involuntary-celibate who goes crazy/lashes out from lack of female attention is the exceptional outlier, but the majority of men CLEARLY understand that a man must continuously conduct self-improvement and personal development IF they want female attention.
In a way it’s a biological cruelty that most women are showered with male time, attention, and random favors simply for being pretty at such early ages and without the need for personal development and self-improvement. It’s how a woman reaches ages 30-35 and is astounded from the significant decrease in attention and lack of effort from men.
There are some women who either instinctively learn or are taught this lesson much earlier in life – that they must be added value to a man’s life versus just being a pretty face and a basic sex object. However, many post-30s/40s women will still have expectations the same as when they were in their early teens and early 20s.
It’s sad to witness…
What a great comment, fantastic work
Succinct and loaded with truth. Thank you for taking the time to share this epic comment, u/BewareTheOldMan.
the reason you provide will be inadequate by default.
good for you bro, out of curiosity how hot was she?
how old, too, the ticking time bomb doth protest
If a girl breaks up with you, and you don't expect it, she usually has a backup to go to, and will coldly blow you off however she can.
When you break up with her however, and she doesn't expect it, she'll explode and try to get your attention anyway she can, because she doesn't have a backup in case things don't work the way she feels with you.
This one is incredibly fun:
“You don’t get one. Bye.”
Anger that you thought was at a 10 before is dialed up to 11
Denying them closure is the greatest revenge you can have, and it cements the power dynamic permanently. It ensures you will not be forgotten, and that’s going to fucking eat at her on the deepest level possible.
“Maybe I should send a guy friend to fuck you up” “You wasted 2 months of my life”
So... she's going to direct one of her Beta Orbiter, Blue Pill SIMPs to "fuck you up?” You should be SO scared right now - practically shaking in your boots at the thought of Mr. Soy-Boy en route to beat you to a pulp...mostly because "Chad" doesn't have time to be her errand boy.
You're absolutely right "[women and/or men] are not entitled to anybody’s love or affection" - most men are acutely aware of this fact. It's generally women with entitlement on this point as most have been receiving male attention and adoration since the age of 15.
I submit the principal issue is she misunderstood the terms, conditions, standards, and requirements of her status because...Plates have "status" not "position." Position is reserved for LTRs, potential life-mates, and wives...and women HAVE to EARN their position in the relationship EVERY. DAMN. DAY - same as men.
On a safer note - ensure women know upfront you are in fact engaging other women and you have zero intent on exclusivity. Be sure Plates understand this arrangement. They either accept it or not.
Amazing eh
How women see social power as literal power. She feels as if she personally could fuck him. Pathetic.
I had a buddy once who grabbed a bouncer to throw out some dude because he was hitting on the same girl he was (pathetically) trying to game.
After witnessing this, it was friends off. What man grabs a bouncer to remove a dude who is talking to a woman he wants to fuck? A fucking loser, that's who.
I concur - weak move and pretty Beta as well.
how on earth did he convince the bouncer?
"please do something about this guy talking to the girl I want" ?
He knew him apperently.
But the entire group in the area shared the same opinion. Everyone looked at each other like wtf?
Even the chick he was trying to get with looked floored.
Some dudes just don't get social proof, frame, game etc.
Not sure why someone would do that. It’s a chance to get information that is relevant. Never miss a chance to obtain relevant information.
I can't tell you how many times I had a mid-tier beta pointed over in my direction by a woman who was pissed at me. They would look over nasty at me and then just shy right the fuck away. Sure there are guys that can kick my ass but close to zero of those guys would ever want anything to do with nonsense like that. So on the physical front I'm clear as day.
Don't underestimate what a beta will do for his princess. A guy was convicted in my state a few years back for shooting down a girls ex because because a girl asked him to.
He gets 20-25 years for following a directive for murder and she gets 5-7 for conspiracy to commit murder. She's out in five, finds another SIMP, and SIMP-CONVICT 1 gets another 15 years to think about his actions.
Some people are just too stupid to ensure their own self-preservation.
Irony is that if you posted on any other sub you'd have brigades of people saying what an asshole you are. Hypocritical dumbasses
Which ones are that? I would love a good chuckle
relationships & offmychest tend to pull stunts like that often.
Pretty sure I got banned from that shithole
Oh yeah, I'm not allowed to comment or participate anyway. When I asked the mods why, they told me my account had restricted access because I'm active on subs like imgoingtohellforthis and redpill.
damn. reddit restricts access to certain forums just because you belong to other forums?
what the fuck?
lol you just listed my 2 fav subs.
Just let them pay for their wives kitchen so they can remember what sex feels like.
AskWomen & AskMen too.
Decided to see what I could expect. They were predictable.
AskMen would also be funny, they're so blue-pilled.
Moderated by women as well.
Bienvenue à 2018, enjoy your stay
The incels will praise him tho at their sub
"I can have any guy I want, I can have a new guy every day if I wanted"
I remember one day a girl got mad at me in a group chat and she literally said the same thing like dozens of times that day. A friend of mine even made a montage with her audio lmao.
This reveals a lot about a girl's mentality. Every girl has boyfriends, potential boyfriends, orbiters and other friends lined up
Reply with "that just makes you a slut" and watch the fire burn.
my body I can do what i want
I’ll append a brief crusher to the front of that.
“You won’t. That just makes you a slut.”
Either she’s an impotent whiny idiot (damned if she doesn’t) or she’s a disloyal whore (damned if she does).
It forces her to be one or the other.
It also reveals women know all guys want to fuck them. Women do see themselves as sex objects and they crave it (but only with the right man, not some pathetic beta).
As a beta, I thought women were oblivious or that I’m perhaps brainwashed or felt entitled into wanting so much sex with them. I was shamed and always told women are not sex objects, they are scientists, engineers, doctors, the future of humanity, blah, blah, blah. But they always knew.... they just wanted attention, and of course they wouldn’t reveal it to a stranger and beta like me.
My favorite pill so far. I feel a little nauseous.
Child mind with a teenage body. The only reason no one admits it is because team women are children and men are blinded by a haze of hormones.
This is why our feminized society has such a problem with accepting dominance heirarchies. If you loved your entire life not having to compete, someone besting you would be offensive and piss you off. Who do they think they are?! lmaoo
When women have to repeat, they show how insecure they are. If you pass a shit test yourself, you need not repeat it.
That mentality seems to prevail in most young attractive women. I once ignored a girl who was trying to get my attention. She looked so shocked. I guess she was used to men falling for her.
You're right, they're not used it because it never happenned before lolz.
It's the male equivalent of a girl denying you the friendzone.
She completely missed the point and thought you were saying she couldnt get laid or something haha
Yeah man, your wording was off. You should have said, "You are not entitled to my love or affection." The way you put it comes off as the nuclear statement: "You are unlovable."
I think the point here is that women have no problem telling men, "you are not entitled to anyone's love or affection." They truly do not give a fuck if Billy Beta dies without ever getting so much as a boob touch. How DARE these mysogenistic men act like they are entitled to another person's body!
These same women see nothing wrong with getting pissed off when you just don't feel like fucking them any more.
They think there pussy is a precious unique pearl out of the ocean, and gold floats out of it, and you should be more than grateful to have it.
the reality is most of them have a cooter as precious as a urinal cake, they'll use and abuse it, branch swing from chadlet to chadlet, then live in denial of the approaching, inevitable, and non-negotiable Wall.
"I can fuck whatever guy I want. I can fuck a new guy every day If I want to"
I bet you my right nut, she thinks guys are impressed she is a cum-dumpster lmao
Women make fun of nice guys all the time and other guys jump in on it and shame the guy too. Flip the script and the guy is an asshole user, woman is victimized and gets attention. Men are coerced into a crusade against him. Fuckin disgusting, what society allows.
A woman's sense of solipsism is off the charts, especially because of Beta Orbiters.
Meanwhile, men like Billy Beta continue becoming expendable.
I hate how we're seen these days.
It depends on how you say it:
"You are not entitled to anyone's love or affection"
vs
"You are not entitled to anyone's love or affection"
Even though they both technically mean the same thing (not that particulars ever seem to matter to people), the second is more easily misconstrued.
Edit: spellings and shit
I would've said "You are not entitled to anyone's love or affection."
BTW, love
ofor affection. FTFYOr you are not entitled to my affection Pretty much the same message but just a little clearer
Wrong move. Has Cinema taught you nohting?
Real Heros don't look behind them when things explode.
You engaged in covnersation with her. You may think you've won, but the fact you continued to engage with her after you've told her it was over suggests otherwise.
Look, Women love drama. She will have loved what you said to her, as she will be slagging you off to all her friends about it, and they will slagging you off back. You've given her exactly what she wanted, the opportuinity to wallow in drama within her circle of friends. You improved her status, whilst diminishing yours.
You was right in what you said, but wouldn't it have been far more effective if you just DID IT rather than talk about it. Actions speak louder than words.
You: It's over.
Her: Massive Rant..
You: *Walks away slowly not looking behind him* her voice slowly diminishing the further the distance you put.
Trust me, you would have felt MILES better just saying it's over, and then not rising to her bait. All those things she said to you, was to get a reaction, it was another shit test that Women do. By responding, you failed.
Now imagine the difference when she goes to slag you off to her friends and when they ask what you said/did after she said all that, and she goes "nothing, he just walked off, didn't even bother looking back". They'd all have wet panties thinking about you.
Obviously it's your call, but here's how it looks. One's cool as fuck and nothing phases him, the other gets into handbag fights with bitches. See the difference now.
Ask yourself guys, which one would you TRULY rather be seen as. Life, as in art, is mostly about perception. And it's the subtleties that can make or break you.
It’s amazing how a women’s shit test for alpha behavior is only passable by LEAVING. It’s a A lose lose situation for the girl. It’s either A) Leave her(don’t engage) you win she loses you (the alpha) Or B) stay(engage), you lose shit test and alpha credit and she loses (finds who she’s with less attractive through beta actions aka even talking to her)
Women are their own worst enemies.
Lol.
That's not how it works. If it angers her that much she will make up a story or say she broke up with you. She will find a way to justify her feelings.
Whether bridges are burned depends on how soon she either gets another man or gets over it.
This. You know a woman got dumped when she starts by shaming the guy with lies like "he's too afraid of commitment" or "he was intimidated by my intelligence".
Likely true - but that's just how it is anyway...even if a woman's absolutely wrong in her behavior (e.g. infidelity, disruptive behavior, etc.) she's "not wrong." Society has helped many women believe this and it's reinforced by her closest friends, allies, and especially her Beta Orbiters.
Somehow it was a man's "lack of Alpha Frame" that caused the infidelity or unruly behavior. Be prepared to either deflect, counter, or simply ignore when and if you eventually hear the details of the "break up story."
For some - responsibility and accountability are literally foreign concepts.
Either way he's outta there, who gives a shit?
Crazy girls don't always have crazy freinds but sometimes 1 bad apple can spoil the bunch
Do you mean maybe you can't fuck the friends?
lol yes, she may make fucking the freinds difficult
Personally i recommed keeping an eye out until you're out of pistol range 👍
If a women wants to, is irrational and emotional enough, it won't matter that you walked away because she will still tell everyone you called her names and almost hit her.
Might as well be the monster
Done this....many times. This girl WILL get a reaction from you until she finds another person. She will do this by either harassing you, complaining to your friends and/or family or worse...work. She will turn obsessive and now your back to being the asshole. OP stuck it to her and whoever hates her in girl land probably liked how he did it. Either way, most girls will never clean break from you. They are too prideful and cowardly. They will cheat first so the blame is not on them.
Rule of thumb, always be dumping them if you smell the end.
Your comment should be higher up .
Basically just act like Clint Eastwood and you're laughing all the way to the bank
I appreciate this perspective and didn’t consider it previously but find it to be most accurate.
You: "It's over."
Her: "Massive Rant."
You: "\Walks away slowly not looking behind him* her voice slowly diminishing the further the distance you put [you and her]."*
Well played Good Sir - well played.
Imagine if you could moonwalk out of that
That's why ghosting is now the standard because who wants all that drama?
Yup, cheerfully ghost away. Carousel riders aren't entitled to anything.
I don’t even call it ghosting anymore. I call it delete.
The correct reply to any female who plays the "You're not entitled to sex" card, is exactly what OP said: "You’re not entitled to anybody’s love or affection”.
"Good luck getting them to stick around tho"
Lol she would have assaulted him at that point.
Worth it for the satisfaction
Year right. Wait till she finds someone she judges to have higher SMV than you, and you will witness the ultimate level of "moving on".
Think about that statement. The implication is that simply being with you and spending time with you is not the goal, she derives no pleasure or happiness from it - she's with you merely to achieve some profit, namely, committment of some kind for her provision. When that promise of provision is cut off, the time spent with you becomes "wasted".
thats exactly it. so shes looking at the long term. whats your point?
That her purpose is not to share her day-to-day life with a man, but to invest time into an endeavor with an eventual payout. The goal is not the relationship itself, but the end reward for enduring the relationship.
Thanks for clarifying. I agree with your conclusion of her desired outcome. I also agree with her that he's wasted her time if she was clear about her intentions.
A lot of people waste their time dating people who string them along, both genders do it. What makes it really crap is some lame excuse at the end, and no explanation why....generally because ithe person cant/wont own up to how manipulative and deceitful they have been.
Pro-tip: never lead a girl on to think a relationship is going to be more than you are really interested in.
This will only lead to drama. It sounds like you did lead on to more than the relationship really was. She was starting to go into betaizing mode as all women will eventually do to try and get you to settle down. I am relatively sure that this process was helped along by you, consciously or subconsciously. What's done is done now, just be aware of it.
Any boyfriend behaviours you displayed towards her will only accelerate this process. The fact that you already reached "The Talk" at 2 months really says it all. So next time, if she really is just a FB for you, go easy on the boyfriend behaviours. See her less. Contact her less. Discuss the relationship and your future and all that shit less. It sends a wildly incongruent message to her and you are essentially lying which will just add to drama down the line: exhibit A - your recently blown up relationship.
I also don't believe to ever let a relationship blow up like this again as far as in my control. If everybody is honest from the start, it never has to end this way. Lesson learned. Good luck bro.
Women are the gatekeepers to sex
Men are the gatekeepers to relationships
I’ve heard it said as “men are the gatekeepers kd commitment”
No woman is obliged to continue fucking a man she no longer wants to fuck.
No man is obliged to continue a relationship with a woman he no longer wants a relationship with.
With these axioms in mind, I see no moral issue with implying a relationship is possible then changing your mind. Might not be the best choice from a strategic / tactical mindset, but the morality of it is, to me, unassailable.
Girls lead themselves on. Remember that it is always 100% the fault of a woman if sex doesn't lead to a relationship. If she had put in the effort to be better OP would probably love to be in a relationship with her. But she didn't.
Haha while I like the sentiment, this is certainly false. Guys bang girls all the time who they would not consider atttactuve enough to date.
Yeah, but not for two months. Or at least I assumed from the OP that the girl was hot, but you're completely right about girls that aren't attractive. I wouldn't sleep with an unattractive girl though.
Also false, called plates for a reason, some guys have open relationships with certain women for much longer. Just because they're physically attractive and I want to stick my dick in them doesn't mean I like that person much. OP barely found the girl tolerable outside of sex, and when she gave him an ultimatum of sorts, he bailed.
These Girls will make up whatever they want the relationship to be. Even if you just say for sex, it’s all dependent on what she told the women social circle. It’s the self entitlement and spoiled child. She was desperate and didn’t want to get rejected and look stupid in front of her friends. Same things happen to nice guys.
OP did nothing wrong here. he was being harassed, forced and coerced into a relationship. He didn’t want it and he told the hard truth.
Don't believe in a relationship at all. Keep slinging plates even when she might be the one you think is best. Work Dread Game if you do go for it, but don't get overly attached and remember she doesn't have to try as hard as you to branch-swing.
Spot on. I get the feeling though that some Men like the Drama as much as Women.
Hence why the OP is taking delight at winning an argument with someone he's only moments earlier told he wants nothing to do with again.
At that point he simply should have walked off, job done.
By continuing to engage with her AFTER this fact is yet another example of giving out mixed messages.
She's probably written a similar article on reddit about him.
Personally, I can't tell the difference between the two of them.
So the fact that women pull shit like this 99% of the time is irrelevant to you?
Being bitter towards women and having a "I'm going to fuck you over because that's what all you bitches do to men" attitude only leads to more drama. It is an acknowledged phase that you have to go through when taking TRP but you should eventually moved past it.
Then you simply start managing your plates with honesty while rooted in the realities of the differences between the genders' sexual dynamics. You should never end your TRP journey being at war with women. It should come full circle with you being back in control without all the drama.
It's such a ridiculous idea. Sic'ing guys on you like dogs.
Do these people not realize that like 30% of people in America have a gun or some nonsense? If someone tries to "fuck me up" I hope for their sake I'm in a patient mood that day.
This was EXACTLY my thought
'oh really? At least give them a uber gift card so they can have a ride to the hospital when we' re done... Cocks gun in front of her face'
Seriously though... Im sure she STILL wouldn't care at all.
she'd call the cops and say you threatened her with a gun.
the cops won't care about anything you say, the context, or anything. they'll see her tears, beat your ass, and lock you up.
she wins.
leave your gun alone until you ABSOLUTELY plan to use it.
Lmao thats so true I didn't think of that...
Of course i would never ACTUALLY physically do that... Although unfortunately I think even in that case, just the fact that she may know i even have firearms will be enough for her to come up with a sob story regardless.
And here in Florida we now have that dumb red flag law... So the last thing I want is to get into any problems where I get all my firearms and ammo (this hobby can be really expensive) confiscated.
“I can fuck any guy I want, I can have a new guy every day if I wanted”
You should have said that thing about a key: What's better a key that opens all locks or a lock that is always open.
She's bragging about being a fuck toy and wasting her assets, but she didn't realize it. She judges your outcomes on male standards, just wait till she gets a little older. "/Dating over 30".
Another saying along the lines is A man is like a key and a Woman a Lock. A key that can open many locks is a great key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock.
It's the same one but paraphrased.
How do you go about cutting off a woman who has mutual friends and will probably shit talk you to them? It seems enticing to just say “i have no time or any will to commit to someone” but the backlash with female friends we both know is the only thing holding me back. Thoughts?
Remember: In all relationships with women, you will be the monster at the end of it all.
Accept it. Internalise it. And get over it.
All women I have ever fucked (single, married, dating, engaged) all have stories about how horrible their dudes are. The stories of how monstrous their husbands, boyfrieds, exes are told even as they suck dick and swallow the cum.
True - despite being a husband who NEVER faltered in husband or father responsibilities (especially father responsibilities post-divorce), the ex-wife managed to concoct a story of how terrible I was as a husband and even attempted to turn my own children against me.
Mind you - I was NEVER physically abusive, financially irresponsible, overtly unfaithful, or had no major personality or disposition changes from when we started dating, throughout the marriage, or post-divorce. The aforementioned issues are what I refer to as "husband/relationship disqualifiers" – none of which I ever demonstrated any point.
However, she had numerous disqualifiers – the biggest of which was falling extremely short in her basic wife and mother duties and failing to self-correct. By failing to make corrections she was summarily dismissed via divorce. Even the kids eventually understood why I left the marriage, especially now since they're adults. I'm not saying there are no terrible husbands, it just wasn't an accurate and still isn't an accurate description of my time as a husband with the ex-wife.
It seems many women need a "narrative" why relationship failure is never their fault. It's surprising when women accept responsibility and accountability. The "I didn't know he was…a liar, a cheater, a bad seed, abuser, etc." gets old. It assumes women can't discriminate between Good Men and douchebag losers/deadbeats.
It's one of the reasons most women hate criticism and judgment - it points to responsibility, accountability, and the necessity for self-improvement.
Sometimes it takes years - but friends, family, and even children realize why men exit this type of situation. Ex-girlfriends are easy as most of them will rarely, if ever, cross your path after breakup - assuming there no children, a man easily moves on with his life.
Why the fuck do you care what her friends think of you lol
I believe he said "mutual" friends. You know, as in they're his friends as well as hers. He obviously got with a chick from the circle of friends. Bad idea in my opinion. But he has done it and wants to know how best to clean up the shit on his playground.
well, then why the fuck do you care what the mutual friends think of you?
if your friends can't accept your decisions and remain a friend, then fuck them too.
just went thru this. if they are your friends they will come to you for your input implying thry care about b.s.. I just kept doing me.
You could tell them that you don't date within your social circle.
You’re ugly AND a fuckboy. Gotta love when they contradict themselves in succeeding sentences. Surprised she didn’t tell you that you had a small dick. That’s always a favorite.
"every woman has a hole to fill" really triggers them when they try to act like their shit doesnt stink.
In terms of respective male/female sexual dynamics, this is akin to me bragging "I could decide not to approach every woman I see, if I wanted!"
Feminism has really fucked women up. So many of them actually believe getting fucked is an indication of their sexual value. I've had multiple girls bring up their high N-count as if it's a positive; they're actually bragging about. It's fucking lunacy.
She will be back in a week seeking that validation you refused her, ignore her for the first day then fill in the rest.
probably with accusations and claims of sexual assault once she can't get her way.
Ya can't be mad when you get rejected unless beauty and pussy is all you have to offer
I remember the last ex girlfriend I had, I broke up with her in august last year, she started to act like crazy texting me calling me a lot of bad names, insulting and chasing me, did the same and even called me a cuckold. I blocked her in everything, deleted her in instagram and facebook! Thank God I dumped that fat religious slut! Oh my God I'm ashamed I dated her!
Why invite the drama?
“You’re not a real man are you”
"Your opinion is up to you, and it's frankly none of my business."
“You’re just a fuckboy”
"Okay."
“You’re ugly anyways”
"Okay."
“Maybe I should send a guy friend to fuck you up”
"1. You just threatened me with battery. 2. How do you know your guy friend wouldn't agree with me?"
“You wasted 2 months of my life”
"You knew I wasn't offering a steady relationship. I had no reason to assume you weren't seeing other guys as well. This is on you."
No need for the drama. Straight and direct and don't let her argue, don't stay and argue. Wish her the best as you send her on her way.
For the record, being rejected is hard on every one, not just women. If you didn't care about being rejected, I posit that you would not be on this sub.
As nice as it must have felt to be the one in control (congrats, you did it good!), I think it is not a good AWALT example. I saw exactly the same behavoir from guys countless times, but never witnessed it from a woman.
A lot of comments here, but no one has said anything about what is the interesting point here: why can't women handle rejection at all?
So let me try to give a consistent answer to that question:
The reason why women can't handle rejection lies as well as the same reason that explains other defining female traits, such as hypergamy.
So women are hypergamous, can't handle rejection, bear no responsibility, demand affirmative action, etc because they are INFERIOR. Female inferiority is the common reason.
A woman is just a body for sex (='inferiority'); her body is her main, most important and valuable personal asset. So if you reject her for sex you'll be rejecting her most important and valuable ability. She is entitled to sex with you because if you don't accept her body for sex then she won't be able to give you or contribute you any other better, 'more superior' or valuable thing or capability from her than sex in order to transactionally earn from you all the benefits of your superior male capabilities that are out of her female inferiority's reach.
They are supposed to have all the control of the sex game. Way to flip the script.
This is interesting.
And it seems to be a causal element in play. It’s the emotional nature of a woman that creates the tendency of them throwing out games and can’t handle them back.
I don’t think they’re that smart to think they control everything. They just let the natural flow flows which is driven by their emotion. Somehow they’re so good at playing with emotions and men have to learn to not hand over the control wheel.
Sounds like you sent her hamster through the roof because she seemed to malfunction and brag about how she could be or is a huge slut.
Wasted 2 months? Seriously? I'm guessing you had possibly 4 meals follwed by fucking met and Netflix n chilled and fucked like 12 more times if that.
What was she investing in? Was she expecting the all expenses paid weekend away? Were you supposed to take her to (insert random music fest weekend here) on your dime?
You did not handle this well. You perhaps should have made her well aware of her plate status by winding the fling down slowly. Not abruptly ghosting just fading away. Space out bang sessions to 10 days then 2 weeks. Be seen on social media with other female friends. Tell her it's just " friends" nothing to worry about. Same technics wimmenz use all the time......
I had that shaming stunt from a girl before and I'm not gonna lie shit fucked me up a bit. That's of course if you're still in search of reaching your potential and know thyself.
Pump and cut contacts immediately. There's no point explaining yourself, why.
This is why I really vet my plates. I won't even get sexual if I sense (excessive) instability or a difficult exit.
lol I always wonder, do chicks really not realize that this applies to very decent or better looking woman? Or do they think guys don't know this?
Can confirm OP's experiences...have had so many girls over the years completely light up, start screaming at he top of their lungs, try to physically trap me (grabbing, blocking doors or standing in front of cars etc.) become absolutely feral when they realized we were 'done'. They act like the strung out junkies on COPS
Yep that wall is inevitable. Sometimes at 30 sometimes at 40 but still looks only go so far, if you're a crazy biatch, it's going to be a short ride.
HOLY SHIT!
I was always bothered by this, but now I understand women don’t care so much about sex, especially not as much as having relationship with the alpha. It’s the shit test I’ve always failed.
For women: Relationship > Sex
This is why women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships.
“I can have a new guy everyday if I wanted” lmao why would anyone want to get serious with a literal roastie
The threats of violence are punishable by with jailtime. Did you press charges?
Women are completely insane.
nah, they're not insane. they can be VERY logical when they need to be.
otherwise, they're just engulfed in emotional logic, living in fairy tale land... having champagne tastes with beer money in their accounts.
oxymoron if there ever was one
I was just saying this to a friend. I'm a personal trainer and damn it if they don't still try to make me their beta bitch.
Problem is that I have invested in other businesses and make good cash without having to get new clients if i don't want to....meaning I train mainly because it makes me happy....and i can cut any woman who makes my job stressful.
The last client I cut has still yet to be officially cut from my training. She knows I'm going to cut her because she broke my training agreement and decided to turn into a bitch for reasons unknown (I know the reasons).
For an entire week she has given some lame reason for not showing up to class mainly because she knows I don't do text message. (I always reprimand her in person if she slipped)
Reminds me of a child who knows it will be punished so it stays away from home for as long as it can.
Can you describe your training agreement please? I’ve been looking into getting back into training myself.
It's a pretty simple agreement. Just involves committing yourself to a minimum of 4 workouts a week. (Staying in shape and healthy doesn't mean you have to work out every day, But u have to commit to a minimum).
When I train I commit myself to you and getting your goals met...so my agreement requires you commit to the program also and to your goals.
This is exactly how to get a woman to obsess over you. She's going to do everything she can to win you back
reason to be VERY selective in plates... or then again, just stay away from women. overall they are pathetic. its that pussy drug that gets us.
I like how you handled this. Nice, simple, and not prolonged.
My reason is always the same.
I met someone else.
That shuts things down PDQ.
All they can say after that is;
Is she better in bed/prettier/younger than me?
It's always about them.
Eek. Stay away from this person.
I have had a similar experience with a man. We only dated two times. I didn't hear from him so I moved on. Months later he came back and said many of the same things that this girl said to you. I came away from that believing that men don't handle rejection well either lol.
can you list exactly what she invested over the 2 months? apart from sex or time, what exactly did she put in? did she buy you gifts? make you meals? buy you tickets to football? buy movies? give you amazing massages? anything?
The most satisfying thing to say to a woman who you don’t want:
“I just don’t think we have chemistry, is all it is.”
Good for you, they really can’t. One girl back in high school days was just too boring, couldn’t communicate at all with her and when she did try it was bare minimum. I told her I didn’t think we were a good fit and she unironcially yells, “ what?!! I’m going to have my friend burn your house down” and stomped out of my place. Then left 37 voicemails in two days . Red flags galore
If quora and internet articles containing the words "Rejected by crush" are to be believed, women really don't take rejection very well and part of that is because they've never really had to chase boys and men around nearly to the extent that veteran men have to, and when they do take the effort, they really tell themselves they must have really special feelings for that guy that they go against nature's norms to get him.
But the most interesting part? Girls really play the beta game to the hilt when they have a crush on an attractive guy. And if a girl were to share her rejection story to 10 guys, most of them would be ready to ask her out. If a guy did the same, he'd get friendzoned another 10 times!
In general, 80% of girls in their peak are attractive with little effort except basic hygiene, while hardly 15-20% of guys usually are - just to keep a guy's body at a muscular athletic peak, he needs to work and diet very carefully. And sometimes he really has to show it off on the field to get noticed. Not to mention the rest of it, including personality, mindset, style, success, grooming, and the like.
The result is that girls' egos in the attraction games are indeed significantly bigger than all but the biggest asshole guys (and even those tend to act extremely beta and needy when rejected). As a result, they're really sensitive and don't take it anywhere near the same country as a red pilled guy. Older women on the declining side of SMV get really bummed and pissed by rejections.
Girls really often demand an exit interview if they're rejected, and obviously none of the reasons are ever going to be convincing and she'll hamster it away that there must have been something wrong with you that you couldn't give her a proper justified reason. There's no getting out of the fact that there's one bruised ego there. Lol!
As an example, you will find a lot of advice on the internet for girls trying to do what it takes to be attractive enough down the road so that the guy does approach her, and she gets to reject him, and a lot of people support that too. Guys on the other hand would be shamed if they don't take rejection very well. On the other hand, you will also find advice on telling guys how to deal with girls' rejections better.
Just read it yourself : https://www.quora.com/Is-it-normal-for-girls-to-get-friendzoned
LOL @ 1 woman acted this way > all women act this way. feels so weird reading trp and realizing posts like this are not actually ironical.
Holy shit, for some reason that’s a barbaric level of savagery. I guess being a man I’m just used to being shat on and don’t realize how out of line some things are until they are used on a wamen?
In contrast this is completely normal for women. I was talking with a lady friend of mine about her boyfriend and she said she'll probably only date him for at most a year.
We're just casually discussing this mans planned obsolescence down to the month. If I tried having this conversation with my male friends about a girl I planned to dump, they would make me feel like the biggest piece of shit for pretending to care about her.
I have no problem with people wanting to be loose on their sexuality, I just can't stand the dishonesty and double standards that come with it.
I dont condemn sluts, I condemn liars. I actually like sluts a lot. You can be a decent person and enjoy getting ploughed by different men, its kind of cool. You'd be surprised how accepting people are these days of any lifestyle that doesn't directly cause harm or emotional pain to others.
I'm sorry if I'm rambling now but I just don't understand how deception suddenly became okay as long as it involves sex.
Because here at TRP, one story about one woman represents all women in the world
If she gave you that hard time, it looks like you didn't handle your plate appropriately and instead did some boyfriend-girlfriend stuff with her which gave her mixed signals.
Most likely all this shit is your fault. Take the responsibility and don't make her look like the crazy bitch. Learn how to manage different types of relationships right.
Haha no. Give a girl good dick and they become like this.
Try it sometime.
Nah, I only visit my plates for 1-2 hours and they never give me drama but they do keep fucking me because my EFA is strong that I have other girls, I won't commit and I'm nonmonogamous.
Try it sometime.
Get your own jokes.
Try it sometime.
Why are you refusing to learn from your mistakes?
That is because she was right: you are ugly. If you would look like Jeremy Meeks, you could do whatever you want to her and she would be fine with that.
Probably someone new. Go start at the sidebar.
Seems like he's spouting incel ideology to me.
Right, read the sidebar. And don't forget on coping in the meantime.