How the media frames the suicide epidemic.

Nightstalkerjoe2 · 2022-12-31T05:42:31+00:00

When was it tweeted

YoungEgalitarianDude · 2022-12-31T07:12:31+00:00

"Who cares about male suicide? It won't fit well with our feminist narrative"

Perfectly-Not-Wrong · 2022-12-31T06:11:51+00:00

Take Victim status.
That is the strategy Women use and they know its benefits.

Even if its not suicide Men die much earlier than women because of all the stress that he takes in his life and they will not speak about it or allow you to speak about it.

They start shivering when the facts come out and come out with more propaganda's and do more to show themselves as victims.

pappo4ever · 2022-12-31T05:05:22+00:00

This has to be a joke

VisionarySeagull · 2022-12-31T07:47:38+00:00

They're just trolling.

UN Women did the same with their tweet:

Of all journalists killed in 2021, 11% were women. In 2020, this was 6%.

On the International Day to #EndImpunity for Crimes against Journalists, let us say out loud:

STOP

TARGETING

WOMEN

JOURNALISTS

Of course they understand that it's incredibly insensitive to look past all the male journalist deaths and act as if the women's deaths should be front and center.

What they want to do is bait men into responding so they can use that as "evidence" that they're being "harassed" by men. This is incredibly common for feminists because feminists are the emotional equivalent of the 7-year-old child putting their finger an inch away from your face and repeating "I'm not touching you."

AndyBrown65 · 2022-12-31T05:50:35+00:00

“Women most affected “

Quix_Nix · 2022-12-31T06:33:37+00:00

Even the woman delta is lower

LoomisKnows · 2022-12-31T09:57:26+00:00

It's interesting that American Indian, Alaskan native, and white have all jumped up. What's happening in Alaska?

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-12-31T11:01:15+00:00

You guys need to understand something. This is beyond moral bankruptcy or selective outrage. This is a fucking psy op.

Delicious_Spite700 · 2022-12-31T09:18:41+00:00

They really don’t care about men

Anton_Ushanka1981 · 2022-12-31T14:16:38+00:00

"for women" bruh the chart you posted Huffpost clearly shows Men are more affected. Has their ideolagy rotted their brains through so much that they have become stupid idiots

OofOuch_MyBrain · 2022-12-31T08:17:36+00:00

Wow, yes, we must protect women here, they're clearly the primary victims of suicide because something something privilege/s

C834 · 2022-12-31T16:29:13+00:00

White men are 7.371428571x more likely to suicide than asian women. Really shows who is really the one society is attacking the most for "forbidden" romantic relationships.

PrimeWolf88 · 2022-12-31T09:14:15+00:00

Fuck HuffPost. It's far left opinions pretending to be news (and they don't pretend very well either).

RegumRegis · 2022-12-31T08:01:43+00:00

I'm guessing the Alaskan natives throw that number up a bit, because they live in Alaska.

cassandramas · 2022-12-31T13:04:45+00:00

Men kill themselves. Women most effected.

Your culture hates you because you were born male.

livinginlyon · 2022-12-31T08:42:44+00:00

Damn. I'm proud of black women.

Askmannen69 · 2022-12-31T14:31:02+00:00

My instincts as a sociology student would lead me to think the increase for women is more statistically significant, due to the fact that it's a larger increase percentage-wise, even though the increases are the same numerically. Such increases usually reveal how society changes over time, while an already bad statistic getting worse tells us a little less.

It's obviously a much bigger issue for men though.

Imvrasos · 2022-12-31T17:02:32+00:00

There are 106 male babies for every 100 female at birth, and only about 85 men entering retirement for every 100 women. Imagine the hysteria if these numbers were reversed.

suk-my-ballz-0811 · 2022-12-31T06:33:04+00:00

Have they finally found out how to do it they still trying?

EpicHajsownik · 2022-12-31T09:34:00+00:00

At least the show clearly what happens to men and dont hide it

TheNerdWonder · 2022-12-31T10:38:05+00:00

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/

"In 2020, men died by suicide 3.88x more than women."

Obviously, the HuffPo post was in 2016 but I doubt the numbers were any better back then.

alclarkey · 2022-12-31T16:18:53+00:00

Of moderate interest, the suicide rate for black men has decreased.

the_njf · 2022-12-31T17:28:27+00:00

Why are statistics differentiated based on race?

DiversityIsDivisive · 2023-01-01T01:19:00+00:00

This Just in: World Ends : women most affected

Infamous_Entry1564 · 2022-12-31T16:38:16+00:00

What makes this worse is putting up the figure for men right next to it. Usually with these kinds of people they just life by omission but this one they are saying directly to your face they dont give a shit about the men committing suicide

liebestod0130 · 2022-12-31T16:46:57+00:00

What is so hard in showing sympathy for those men too? What do you lose in doing that?!

Mycroft033 · 2022-12-31T18:06:10+00:00

Man, so many feminist trolls in this comment section

psycicfrndfrdbr · 2022-12-31T18:09:47+00:00

"1/4 homeless people are women"

RevolutionaryAct6931 · 2022-12-31T18:25:46+00:00

The female rates didn't even go up that much compared to male rates... Damn

ruMenDugKenningthreW · 2022-12-31T18:27:49+00:00

Given Huffpost, I'm more shocked that they didn't specifically point solely at black women.

Able_Hearing8367 · 2022-12-31T20:35:35+00:00

GUYS GUYS! THIS IS PROGGRESS! THE SUICIDE GAP BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN ARE CLOSING! 🤣

djc_tech · 2022-12-31T23:27:41+00:00

So the past six months, lost another friend to suicide . One more picked up by cops because he tried to commit suicide and I know this because they asked me to help find him. Another close friend of mine lost his son to suicide. All of us are veterans/first responders and know what? No one cares. I mentioned it to the woman I’m dating as I felt responsible for my friend as he called me and called me and I didn’t pick up and I felt responsible. Her response; you need to talk to a therapist this isn’t my problem. So that’s how women usually respond. They don’t care.

Me, I sat up for nights on end feeling the guilt and helping a friend best I could. Without support or help from anyone except one guy friend who was going through his own stuff.

I realized a while back you won’t get sympathy from women or people at large in regards to this so don’t bother. Only reason I haven’t offed myself is I know it puts my kid at risk of becoming suicidal and I don’t want that for them. But no one gives two shits about me so if I go no one will she’s a tear. My kid being the only on but that’s it.

OrionBartholomew · 2022-12-31T10:12:54+00:00

The primary hallmarks of feminism are hypocrisy, double standards and self-contradictions.

CopperHands1 · 2022-12-31T17:22:52+00:00

Absolutely classic

TrilIias · 2022-12-31T18:35:06+00:00

So white men went from about 20 to 26, while white women went from 5 to about 7. About the same for Native Americans, Asians, Hispanics, and Blacks stayed about the same. Objectively, the suicide rate for men increased by 6 points compared to the women's 2.5 points. Not only is the rate for men much higher, but the rate for men increased more than the rate for women. So how did they claim that the rise in suicide rate was particularly bad for women?

I'm guessing it was something like, the rate for women went up 2.5 points, its now 150% what it was in 1999, compared to the men, for whom the rate is now only 125% what it was in 1999. These people weren't able to spin this as "women most affected" in spite of the rate being so much higher for men, they were able to do it because the rate is so much higher for men.

There's something especially disgusting about using men's higher rate of suicide as a tool to claim that women have it so bad.

tylerden · 2022-12-31T12:53:16+00:00

The expendable male.

ImARetardedApe · 2022-12-31T13:10:24+00:00

Ofc… women start living like men: it’s a depressing life for most.

Gmaxincineroar · 2022-12-31T15:45:10+00:00

I honestly thought this was satire for a moment... Like how tf do they not notice the male suicide rate is off the charts

Various-Lie-4045 · 2022-12-31T18:57:32+00:00

White*

DeDeepKing · 2022-12-31T20:17:58+00:00

what

ERiC_693 · 2022-12-31T22:12:07+00:00

Let's not forget that mental healthcare workers (psychology, counseling, child psych, psychotherapy etc) is OVER 90% female dominated so (middle-class, white) women's views dominate mental healthcare work so women are also less vulnerable as their views are over represented. This means male views are not being brought into the designing of therapy programmes so male-specific issues will be overlooked.

Future__Author · 2023-01-01T01:36:20+00:00

I refuse to believe this isn't satire

Designer_Able · 2023-01-01T02:18:38+00:00

I'll at least second that. Last gf encouraged me to each time I got to that point and actually tried to kill me with a knife once ( finally, did manage to, somehow, find-my-way and climb/break out of that hellish haze of horribly-and-uttery-wasted, abusive, spent-time and sizeable-chunk-of-my-life, so...there is at-lest that, so...), AND...one before-that made a baby with me, won't let me see her, destroyed our relationship, talks absolute trash about me behind my back, and I'm (now, from a long-distance, forced to have-to-be) watching her deteriorate as a humman-being, morally, ethically, etc., as a kid/teenager, just-turned-15-this-month-and-soon-to-be adult and as a human-being...generally-speaking, due to the abuse from this 'mother,' who, all the while, mocks, humiliates, and destroys me, as I continually call and text and leave vm's, every single day, on every number I know, to do-so on, and yet, for which, I am continually-denied any-of that contact-with her. All of this, coming from someone who's daughter could do no wrong, prior to much-of-this, as-of-late, and never had these types of issues (quite the opposite, to be exact) with women in my life, prior to the last-two, and now, doesn't know what his purpose even might remotely be on earth, has every 'friend' and even family turn out to not be friends or even family at-all, from someone-also, who goes for months at a time between hearing his daughters voice over the phone, extremely-briefly -- when her 'mother' gets a wild hair up her ass or the stars are aligned the way she likes, or maybe the weather, or who-knows-what -- but decided to let me 'talk' to her for maybe 5-minutes, and who now barely-knows his little girl, anymore at-all. Did I mention my daughter was my little princess and my whole-entire-world? Did I mention her mother speaks to me like I'm human garbage when she does allow her to speak to her own father ( well now she just confused her not to want to speak to me anymore and doesn't make her talk to me which is even worse of course, as hard as worse-than-this is for me to-imagine), as in "where have YOU been??? Why haven't you talked to your daughter. She's blah blah blah now you know..." and just fill in the blank with startling horrifying information about my daughter, of which I'm not sure which is true, which isn't, if any-of-it is..actually I know some, definitely, is.? I don't know my daughter now and my meaning as purpose are stripped, as of the current-situation. Turning 399 this month. No career, yet...

so yeah, women suck and ABDOLUTEL NO ONE gives a flying..at least in my case but hey, what would I know? Don't take my word for it. Just leave me to wrought.

But good news is, whenever I wanna lift myself up, before the two...had a lotta success with business, meaning, purpose, career, women, went to college for a bit ...but that was before.

I feel ya dude. Fuck this present day bass-ackwards situation.

ThatGIRLkimT · 2023-01-02T05:06:33+00:00

I hope suicide will stop

ajomojo · 2023-01-02T13:48:44+00:00

Feminism; boys growing up without their fathers, fathers living without their boys. Moms marrying and remarrying multiple times, bringing multiple men around. A complete disregard for the importance of the group to the development of manhood. That’s why men suicide when they leave the army when they loose their band of brothers. Turn it around or die

Complete_Anything681 · 2022-12-31T11:14:11+00:00

Now there's a HuffPo Women? The HuffPost was already feminist tripe.

Breakfastcrisis · 2022-12-31T13:23:52+00:00

Jesus fuck. Not been in this sub Reddit before, then encountered this. This is some crazy shit.

gafgone5 · 2022-12-31T13:51:53+00:00

Just like how we gotta lower the number of homeless women because 1 in 4 of them is one

SecondEldenLord · 2022-12-31T14:06:37+00:00

Disgusting article diminishing the suffering for men. I wish nothing good for whoever think that male suicide is a joke.

immrdadguy · 2022-12-31T14:08:01+00:00

Of course that’s the narrative when the chart shows that all men are higher on that list than all women but women are the ones they want to talk about.

matrixislife · 2022-12-31T14:16:20+00:00

This is always to be expected from those sites and accounts "especially for women", a singular contempt for any problems men have. You can see this in the huffpo for women above, the UN women's account, and any newspaper female section, including the Guardian and the Mail. The political stance of the newspaper doesn't seem to make any difference.

Shadowdragon409 · 2022-12-31T15:19:43+00:00

Women's suicide rate isn't even increasing as heavily as men's

"particularly for women" is literally an untrue statement.

biopsia · 2022-12-31T12:30:40+00:00

*-- particularly for White and Native people. There, fixed it for you. It's the same but true, and without hate speech.

gmax9000 · 2022-12-31T15:34:51+00:00

How many of those women are M to F trans?

WR1GT · 2022-12-31T11:20:35+00:00

Ah they talk about the women again huh? What a surprise

ANIKET_UPADHYAY · 2022-12-31T11:39:55+00:00

American Indian means Natives right?

nalydpsycho · 2022-12-31T18:38:18+00:00

You went to a woman's issue Twitter account and then framed it as all media takes a woman's perspective.

Are you seeking things to be outraged about? Is that a healthy way to spend your time?

Aren't you basically using nbadraft.net lacking hockey coverage to highlight how sports media doesn't cover hockey? Whether the conclusion is true or not is irrelevant to how useless an example it is.

Edit: .net, not .com

Snezzy_Anus · 2022-12-31T12:54:00+00:00

Raise of 5 and 7 against 2 and 3

B1G_Fan · 2022-12-31T16:10:49+00:00

Ah, yes…

It’s only a problem when it affects me approach to suicide

EDIT: forgot the “/s”

Jbr74 · 2022-12-31T14:31:54+00:00

Narcissists generally don’t kill themselves.

SaltyBawlz · 2022-12-31T14:30:19+00:00

Put your pitchfork down. It was tweeted by huffpostWOMEN. Obviously they are going to gear it toward their audience.

JustAu69 · 2022-12-31T10:20:47+00:00

To be fair, if you count the percentage increase only as a percentage of the original percentage, then there is a bigger growth in Alaskan, Native American and white women than men.

But it is still concerning how suicide rates are way higher in men and they don't even mention it

ned_rod · 2022-12-31T17:44:24+00:00

I don't want to be that guy, but the rise on women's side is bigger then on the men's, percentage wise.

socialawkwardfrutit · 2022-12-31T14:50:40+00:00

It is a huge rise? Or are men's rights just complaining anytime a headline about an issue with women comes up? Like why can't y'all just make a claim and not involve constantly bashing women and saying they have no empathy. It's psychotic

AuntieAthena · 2022-12-31T15:43:02+00:00

Thanks lockdowns!

zach4000 · 2022-12-31T12:50:41+00:00

Oh my god a magazine section focused on women focused on women. This is absolutely indicative of ALL media.

You are gonna have to do better r/mensrights.

Seamonkey_Boxkicker · 2022-12-31T15:37:08+00:00

Wait. What’s wrong with a women’s-focused media source making a point about the increase of suicides of women? It would be like women being upset because us here on r/MensRights make note of the increase in the number of men being sexually assaulted and harassed. Do you understand how silly your complaint is, OP.

shadowBaka · 2022-12-31T12:01:22+00:00

cjgager · 2022-12-31T16:59:16+00:00

yes - this is dumb - - - but do you really need to go BACK to a POST FROM 2016 to prove some sort of point?
present-day suicide rates are also horrendous no matter WHO is dying!

Forcetobereckonedwit · 2022-12-31T20:23:57+00:00

🤡🌎 did you expect rational fact based conclusions? Remember who you're dealing with. Even while directly staring at data that says XY, they will claim xx.

It's time we made watching "The Taming of The Shrew" mandatory. Perhaps watching a bunch of Nature docs. As men, we have dropped the ball by bending over backwards to appease women and their objectives for decades now...and they have abused our generosity in spades.

The problem is there was a balance between the sexes long ago that has been lost.

Good luck getting it back. Ever try teaching a puppy not to chew on the furniture after allowing it happen for 6 months?

TracyMorganFreeman · 2023-01-02T20:11:56+00:00

It's pretty obvious the slope for white and american indian men is higher than that of women.

The slope for Black and Hispanic women is higher than that of men, and they're just ignoring the bigger increase.

badautomaticusername · 2023-01-02T21:49:48+00:00

TBF, while this 'women most affected' bias exists, Huffpost is a special level of cancer.

godcomplex2004 · 2023-01-13T20:11:47+00:00

Suicide is always a tragedy so we should make this into a contest of ho suffers more. Woman try to commit suicide just as often as man, but in less violent ways e.g a man killing himself with a gun is less likely to be able to survive, but a woman killing herself with an overdoes can still be saved. We should instead focus on providing better health care for all demographics

Title	How the media frames the suicide epidemic.
Author	MachiNarci
Upvotes	2310
Comments	221
Date	December 31, 2022 3:36 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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