Apparently, men dehumanizing women is a normal part of male sexuality.

harpyprincess · 2026-02-25T19:28:17+00:00

That most men just want us for sex alone claim is misandry. It completely dehumanizes men as complex emotional beings with the same desire for love, companionship and support we desire. But like us, those with options tend to be pickier in their pursuit of that.

So generalizing men for what a minority of men do (because they can), which are those most pursued with the most options, who themselves may just be being picky and shopping around, no differently than we do (If we can) is rightfully questioned.

Men's desire for women is no different than our own for men, it just might manifest and present differently due to various reasons. We constantly talk about how hot men are, who we think is attractive, etc, yet men do it and we treat them like all they see us as is sex objects.

When I do that, it's certainly not how see the men I'm thirsting over, so why do we presume differently for men? Are you objectifying men when you tell your girlfriend a guy you like is hot, and if your answer is yes, then don't have hypocritical expectations or double standards? When one has a casual fling can she not be "objectifying" men no differently than a man that does the same?

I'm so sick of gender wars over which highly ordinary human behaviour one gender might do more than the other, or how we can twist the same behaviour to be bad for one gender but not the other. So much of this is some humans of both genders are pieces of shit, and the worst of them are in the extreme minority of both genders. But instead of calling out these actions as bad period regardless of gender, we play stupid fucking games of defense for these actions by changing it from actions and individuals that do them bad to, only focusing on gender wars over who does it more.

Gravel_Roads · 2026-02-25T17:50:51+00:00

Dehumanization isn’t a gendered behavior. There are absolutely men who dehumanize women. But there are also men who don’t, and DO push back against men who make shitty statements.

… just as there are women who make dehumanizing statements and women who don’t.

If you ONLY see men dehumanizing, but none of the men who don’t, and none of the WOMEN who do, you are only paying attention to behaviors that conform to your world view

Mela_ninja · 2026-02-25T17:55:52+00:00

I mean there are men who dehumanize women as sex objects.

But often time I see online is miscommunication and lack of understanding. Funny enough the empathy and understanding of these topics are normal in the dead bedroom subs.

Your point is heavily biased and if you are arguing about those men then yeah sure but to generalize it to male sexuality is inaccurate.

wtknight · 2026-02-25T19:07:18+00:00

Well, it's not a normal form of all men's sexuality, as not all men enjoy casual sex and some prefer romantic, loving relationships with women. But a woman who chooses to have casual sex as part of some kind of feminist expression of freedom is basically choosing to have herself potentially dehumanized. Perhaps it would be better for women to choose not to have casual sex and thus not to encourage this dark part of many men's sexuality.

Gold_Sheepherder6569 · 2026-02-25T18:11:41+00:00

You don’t have to have casual sex with a man, there is also nothing wrong with a man who just wants to have sex and doesn’t care about a relationship at least from a secular liberal perspective.

Legal-Birthday-1163 · 2026-02-25T18:02:25+00:00

Women dehumanize men to sex objects too otherwise we wouldn’t see things like “little dick energy” name calling or women’s toys that are sized to their preferences.

OkShame3452 · 2026-02-25T18:01:46+00:00

Firstly. Do you know you're not obligated to have sex? In this day and age who is forcing you to have sex? And secondly. What makes you think you're owed amazing sex every time?

All of the problems you listed here, could be solved if you took the time to actually know a person before ending up having them use you. For example, neither my girlfriend or I are sex addicts, we can delay gratification and emotional connection is more important to us than sex.

Comfortable-Dare-307 · 2026-02-25T18:02:27+00:00

Holding women accountable to the same standards as men have always been held to is not "dehumanizing women".

wideHippedWeightLift · 2026-02-25T19:08:27+00:00

what do you mean "dehumanizing"? It's human to want sex. Just go after the people who treat women who aren't virgins worse, they're the problem here.

YeaNobody · 2026-02-25T18:24:14+00:00

You're free to hate me at your leisure and vice versa...isn't that what freedom is all about?

TinyFlamingo2147 · 2026-02-25T17:53:18+00:00

I mean, I like mocking these dudes. They'll be very offended by this one. I'm really curious how many of them don't realize the e girls they jerk off to are mocking them.

Audi_fanboy · 2026-02-25T17:53:08+00:00

I don't understand what you wrote in this post, my english is kinda broken. But imagine (and I could be wrong), that it has to do with "men only want sex from woman" or a variation of it. And I also don't understand what you want with it. It's false, it's wrong, and you are thinking in very simplistic terms. You are making it a much bigger deal than it is.

Axis_Control · 2026-02-25T18:06:57+00:00

It's entitlement and pride mixed with lust

JudgmentPuzzleheaded · 2026-02-25T19:06:26+00:00

I always look forward to reading posts by LilithOfBabylon.

She's not wrong about what she says, at all, but she also fails to consider the view from the other side and can't put herself in their shoes, and so will forever remain confused !

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bigtarget005 · 2026-02-25T21:45:30+00:00

- Stating that there should be more to a relationship than sex and not seeing it as a way to get sex.

this may be a standard you want in your relationships but that does not stop 2 consenting adults from having a relationship purely based on sex

- Criticizing treating women not immediately having sex with a guy as a moral failing.

i am kind of shocked people are saying this, what i reckon is being extrapolated is that there is a lot of rhetoric surrounding men and insecurities (valid and not) that the lady who hooked up with dudes before is making him wait

More to the third point: Even if she did have casual sex in the past, with a 33% orgasm rate for casual encounters, why should a woman keep risking awful sex for men’s benefit?

it isnt awful sex, ive enjoyed lots of sex where i dont finish. Its a bit silly to reduce women down to casual sex= bad sex

Sidenote: You cant tell women to “choose better” and to “reward” good men, but then look down at women for wanting “beta bux” just because women want a dynamic they also benefit from.

i dont think anyone is saying this. I reckon the idea is more that if you are made aware that you have been settled for then that can be difficult for your confidence and self perception- this is not the fault of the women but just an inherent to a dynamic where theres a high chance someone will become insecure

matthedev · 2026-02-26T03:07:50+00:00

A man can have physical intimacy with his date without losing respect for her. Some do, some don't. Personally, I'm of the opinion that it takes two to tango, so it would be hypocritical to lose respect for someone if you're doing the same thing.
There's a spectrum of relationships between one-time hook-ups to committed, monogamous, long-term relationships. Even short of a serious, committed relationship, men can spend time with a woman beyond physical intimacy. There may be major lifestyle or values incompatibilities (or just where people are in their life at the moment) that would make a serious relationship unworkable for one or both, but they can still enjoy a spectrum of activities together.
There's a bit of a cultural trope about the third date. People shouldn't feel pressured before they're ready, but realistically, I'd hazard a guess that most men are going to start thinking about moving on if there isn't physical intimacy within one to two months. If you find you usually wait significantly longer or don't value it in a relationship much at all, you should probably mention this in your dating profile.

ModPiracy_Fantoski · 2026-02-26T09:47:23+00:00

More to the third point: Even if she did have casual sex in the past, with a 33% orgasm rate for casual encounters, why should a woman keep risking awful sex for men’s benefit?

If women prioritized having an orgasm, they wouldn't have biologically evolved them into 33 percents to begin with.

Other_Comparison_264 · 2026-02-27T04:12:46+00:00

The second of your two parts I agree with. I’ve not seen much actual misandry on this sub (there are other subs where you can definitely find some, though).

The first part I’m having some trouble understanding. But maybe you’re simply referring to examples like the one below:

So if this is common for men to feel that way, why wouldn’t women generally see male sexuality as disgusting if it implied to be inherently exploitative and humiliating?

True. One could ask: if a woman having sex with a man makes her “dirty”, doesn’t that imply there is something inherently “dirty” about male sexuality?

A more interesting part though, where we might disagree, is what exactly constitutes “dehumanization”. For example: a man sees an attractive woman. He gets horny. When he comes home later, he masturbates while thinking of her. Isn’t she literally a sex object to him then? It’s not like he is ever going to have a conversation with her or anything.

Similarly, there is an infinite amount of sexualized content of women on the internet that men routinely “enjoy”. If all this counts as dehumanization, I’d say yes, dehumanization of women is a normal part of male sexuality.

Enough-Business-8287 · 2026-02-25T21:24:06+00:00

As an average-looking overweight girl, I can tell you that causual encounters totally suck, I'm generally not gonna draw the kind of men I like and the large majority of them would treat me like an object to be used.

However, during events like boarding games or language exchanges where I have intelligent conversations with people, it often feels very good to see that several guys really appreciate my knowledge and my wits AND my cleavage and try to flirt with me :-)

I don't think there is anything wrong with the sexual desires of straight guys, the problem is that so many of them REDUCE you to sex and forget that you're a person.

This trend is greatly reinforced by the misogynistic porn industry that makes lots of profit by dehumanising women and presenting them without personality, thoughts and wishes of their own. And now, the red pill ideology is consuming the minds of men who might otherwise have developed a healthy personality and flirting style.

secret_mysteries86 · 2026-02-25T18:13:10+00:00

There are always gling to be those types of men though some who back up men like this are often those types of men when it comes to objectifying woman but not all men. Also casual sex can lead to orgasm if both are willing to help each other out. Again though even if a woman does mot orgasm or the man it doesnt men it was bad sex too. Some men cant orgams due to being nervous and having preformace anxiety. No woman should not told to choose better I agree but some woman end up with men like this due different life experiences.

wtknight · 2026-02-25T18:14:02+00:00

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blklionhart8 · 2026-02-25T20:33:05+00:00

sounds like men only want just from YOU. think about it.

Title	Apparently, men dehumanizing women is a normal part of male sexuality.
Author	LillthOfBabylon
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Date	February 25, 2026 5:42 PM UTC (5 months ago)
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