More Blue Pill Advice?

Hystericalprince · 2018-09-04T13:21:33+00:00

Stop reading and just go out, do things and you'll probably meet people and a girl eventually. Sitting inside all day reading dating advice is a bad idea.

rainisthelife · 2018-09-04T15:50:13+00:00

Honestly, the best advice I can give as a woman is to be confident and don’t take rejections too seriously. There’s a lot of value in being known as the confident, go getter man, who’s kind but stands up for himself and others when needed. Who’s honest, but not a blunt asshole. Who’s attractive but not vain and full of himself. Pay attention to your health/fitness and don’t be afraid to encourage those around you to do the same.

Be straightforward with women, and allow them the opportunity to make an informed decision about whether or not they want to be with you depending on what you’re offering them. Give each woman a fair shot and do not brand them as all the same. Be social, have reasonable standards. If a relationship is what you seek, be open to exploring different dynamics within it and remember that just because you think you’re right doesn’t mean that your words are the objective truth. Egalitarian relationships exist and they do work. Approach relationships with positivity and give women the benefit of the doubt, instead of living a life of cynicism and jadedness. Put your partner first and give them the opportunity to do the same. If they don’t, then you can re-evaluate.

I personally don’t have an issue with passive dread (no idea why it’s even called dread), if you think that you’re in a relationship where you’re not being valued by your partner. But the only difference is that I think that every man, woman, cat, dog, horse and crocodile should practice passive dread. Be someone of value, so that you can be with someone of value.

VermiciousKnidzz · 2018-09-04T13:47:34+00:00

work out, practice good hygiene, live your best life with or without a partner, relationships work best when partners are sharing in each other's happiness rather than struggling to fill some power dynamic, be genuine and upfront rather than passive aggressive, recognize your own and your partner's wants and needs, anger is baggage

SlimLovin · 2018-09-04T13:52:25+00:00

Stop reading dating advice. Self-help is a cash cow that isn't really interested in making a person better.

The only thing that's going to help you is experience. Reading a bunch of bullshit from bitter dinks who created this kind of content because they can't/couldn't get laid doesn't help anyone.

Ladyofblades · 2018-09-04T13:58:14+00:00

Improve your conversational skills by striking up as many conversations with people as possible, force yourself out of your comfort zone in meeting people, say yes more to unusual experiences, and rack up both life skills and interesting new talents that aren’t necessarily practical (music, climbing, etc). Be as fit as you can for that stage in your life, and find at least one thing that you’re passionate about and gives you joy. Happy, outgoing, talented and fit people often don’t need to go looking for opportunities to find a partner - they get the matches and people approach them.

storffish · 2018-09-04T13:53:04+00:00

close your computer and leave your room. stop trying to systematize your romantic life, chances are it'll make you look like a sperg.

take every opportunity to be social with as many people as possible. invite people to do shit you'd normally do yourself. try some shit that attracts a lot of women... yoga feels really good and even if nothing comes of it you get to look at some prime asses for 45 minutes.

don't focus all your energy on cute girls, it's too obvious. the easiest way to meet cuties is by becoming friends with their friends, so broaden your social network on all fronts.

make peace with the fact that most women will reject your advances most of the time. you're looking for the small minority who are DTF at any given time. don't fall to pieces because some chick turns you down and don't focus all your effort on one girl. that gets exhausting quick.

drink, smoke, party, don't stay in studying on a Friday night unless you absolutely have to. girls go to parties to let their guard down and meet guys. don't be scared of the party scene: this is the only time in your life when getting blitzed and fucking a stranger is socially sanctioned, I promise you'll regret not taking part.

Regarding the previous point, leave your standards at the door if you really want to get laid. the girls are going to be sweaty and beer bloated and you'll both have the spins and the sex isn't going to be earth-shattering. it probably won't even be good, once you have a frame of reference. but it's a life experience you'll look back on and be glad you had.

KerPop42 · 2018-09-04T14:50:05+00:00

Don't try to pick someone up. It's counter-intuitive, but letting them come to you works great in college, especially if you can find a large social network to be a part of. Also, develop social skills; learn how to have a conversation casually focused on the other person's interests. If you can, learn how to care about other people's interests purely because they care about it. If women see that you value them as a person and you're not a risk to hook up with, some will be interested, even over a much better-looking stranger.

petrichordium · 2018-09-04T15:28:33+00:00

You need to find things to do socially that play to your strengths and interests but that ALSO have lots of women who care about them. So, maybe no to all-male meathead martial arts scenes and pub night. You need to pivot those energies toward scenes that will get you laid.

So instead of comparing chokeholds with Biff down at the dojo, look into self defense stuff on campus. If you can teach girls how to fight off a grab (WHILE NOT BEING CREEPY) ... that could be very good for you. I’m just spitballing but figure out what you’re good at and enjoy, and then figure out how to channel that into shit girls care about.

This will, by the way, require you to get just a bit into the headspace of girls and figure out what they’re into and what gets them excited. Hope that doesn’t wreck your “frame.”

mistresswhat · 2018-09-04T20:05:23+00:00

Work out or at least eat reasonably well, get a flattering haircut, wear flattering clothes.
Think about hot boy archetypes. Which one do you fit? Which one do the type of women you like tend to go for? It's always better to appeal strongly to a smaller group than it is to appeal mildly to a larger group. Let that inform your fashion and activity choices.
When you're talking to women, your primary goal is to have an interesting conversation. Less strategizing, more finding topics that you can both enjoy discussing. Even if nothing romantic happens, you had a nice time and you maybe made a friend.
Put yourself in the middle of things. Join groups and clubs, take on leadership roles and volunteer to organize when you can. You'll meet more people that way, and more importantly people will know who you are.
People here are shitting on online dating, but there are worse things you could do than go on a bunch of tinder dates. If nothing else, it's practice.
Form genuine friendships with women. It's good to have opposite gender friends in general -- it helps you understand women in a way you don't just by dating them, and also they have friends you might get on with romantically.

ImportantWords · 2018-09-04T15:55:26+00:00

Join a fraternity when you go back to school. Don’t over think it. You read a book on dating, your already overthinking it. Just go join a frat and they’ll sort it out for you.

Whodunnit88 · 2018-09-04T13:37:47+00:00

Blue Pill Advice, and I know that the point of blue pill isn't to give advice but I'm speaking of any blue pillers who offer advice, seems to be: "I'm awesome and I have a fantastic life so stop whining you total piece of shit".

Which means that the person asking for advice feels belittled and dismissed so they search for other guidance. Guidance that might come from more controversial sources like the red pill.

And I know that technically this is a debate sub, but a large majority of posts here seem to be advice threads disguised as debate questions.

I guess what I'm saying is that every time a blue piller dismisses the pain and worry of a poster they are setting him or her down the road of redpill.

hawtsauze · 2018-09-05T14:52:57+00:00

How people do what?

I assume you mean form meaningful romantic relationships, or just have sex in general.

You work on yourself, which is the part the TRP gets right. Workout, eat right, develop hobbies, participate in group settings.

The tricky part is evolving and adapting your behavior. When you notice that people are turned away from something you did or said, take notice. Try and not do that same thing again.

Be aware that different groups have different social dynamics and beliefs. If your conversation, maybe don't bring up the border wall with liberal friends UNLESS friendly debate is part of that dynamic AND it doesn't negatively impact your relationship with that group.

Be around people. Learn how to make friends. Be social. From there, you should develop the confidence that will ultimately attract worthwhile romantic partners.

Also, don't fall in love with girls you don't know it haven't dated. It's not love, it's infatuation and almost entirely one sided.

_Last_Man_Standing_ · 2018-09-04T14:38:57+00:00

Try to do it BP way... see how you like it...
You'll come back to RP and you'll be sorry you didn't do it as soon as... ;)
I wish I found RP when 20yo... But I wouldn't listen than even if I did...

RedPill-BlackLotus · 2018-09-04T17:22:10+00:00

Read the rational male even if you are blue pill. There is so much value in learning about the other side. Even Lindsay Graham and ted cruze have read the Koran.

nomansweb · 2018-09-04T18:15:07+00:00

TRP is poison if you don't pick and choose. "Models" isn't poison, and contains some good points, but I would hardly call it mainstream/BP advice either.

I guess "Models" is a good start. My advice (assuming you're not autistic and already have friends) would be to:

looksmax (get fit, get some muscle, get a better haircut/facial hair style that suits your face, drink lots of water, eat vegetables and go out in the sun so your skin looks better)
watch your posture and learn more confident body language
get female friends you're not interested in romantically (they'll make you more social, may have interesting female friends, make you appear less desperate, can take you out of your social bubble, and they can pick up signals from other girls that you can't)
go find a hobby/activity that isn't a sausagefest, but make sure you actually enjoy it (maybe some sports, to help with the first point of advice)
don't be afraid to make jokes that are a little on the edge, don't be afraid to disagree with a girl
go to social events
don't do online dating: it may seem like the easy way out but it's actually going to be worse for your self-esteem
learn your demographic (don't go chasing after 6' girls if you're 5'7", just to give an example) and pray that at least some of them appeal t you

But in the end you still need some luck and there are no guarantees and some of the people on this thread might not understand that because they don't realize they threaded the needle, luckwise, or have looks or preferences that make it really easy to find someone.

Finally, I might get crucified for this, but IDGAF if it end up helping you: if physical intimacy seems really daunting to you because you're a virgin, to the point where you're afraid of touching a girl even when you suspect she'd be into it, then you could go see a prostitute or have sex with a girl you're not attracted to, just to get it out of your system.

PearsOfWrath · 2018-09-04T13:57:05+00:00

Go talk to women. Just get out of your shell, that's all. If you are a pushover, be more aggressive. Be more confident, be more of an asshole.

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wtknight · 2018-09-04T14:04:26+00:00

Do the things that you like doing and communicate with the women there that also like to do the things that you like doing. Personally, I’ve had success in the past online, but that is often slow, takes patience and is probably not a good option for every man out there.

dudewheresmytest · 2018-09-04T15:00:16+00:00

I'm not exactly a bluepiller but I'll give you some advice that may be helpful.

All dating advice is pretty much either bullshit or mental masturbation. There's a good reason why only desperate people who fail at dating resort to this advice out of desperation. Mark Manson while may have some success in dating (not much else though besides self help shit) is only parroting his opinion. Which if I recall is "neediness is the most unattractive thing to women"; however there are needy men who still do really well with women anyway so it's ultimately bullshit (even if there's some truth to it).

My advice, do and try new things and see what happens. Finding some "one simple trick to success" is just you holding onto all you think is safe and is the path to nowhere in the end. There's no guarantees in life, you could still fail after doing everything. There's more to life than attracting women, for some men it may well be a losing game anyway.

Do some things you enjoy and try to find something that you love and is greater than yourself. You'll find peace there. I learnt these things the hard way in life, I suffered and hopefully you can learn from my lessons.

flamingoinghome · 2018-09-04T20:58:59+00:00

Well, first of all, I don't know if it's helpful to identify as a "virgin"--I was a virgin when I was 20, but it was hardly an influential part of my identity. Try and think about it less and you'll read as less worried.

Be as sociable as you can possibly stand--not all failure is created equally, and it's better to fail by being too outgoing, too chatty, too gregarious and making a slight fool of yourself than to fail by skulking in your room, wondering what you're missing. Join clubs--there's so much cool shit going on at your average college. You might meet women there, you might make friends there who will invite to other fun stuff, and at any rate, knowing how to do metalworking or being an advanced rock climber or whatever will give you something interesting to talk about that most people don't have.

Get a few dating apps and just ask women on dates--be really direct about it, don't spend lots of time derping around on the app, and don't get sexual AT LEAST until you've met in person. NOTE: if you photograph poorly, try and find a friend who's handy with a camera to take some pictures for you. If you meet someone you like IRL, ask them out on a date. Not ambiguously--come up with a thing to do for a date, and ask them on it; if you're broke, something cheap like a free concert in the park or visiting a museum is just fine.

If it sounds like something you're interested in, find your local kink scene and check it out--they often do low-pressure pub nights at a normal bar, so you don't have to deal with a bunch of naked weirdos or anything.

Good luck!

AlanHalworth · 2018-09-04T21:25:04+00:00

I had a post where I listed some blue pill advice, which I called "blue pill ++":

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9biv9l/cmv_blue_pill_and_red_pill_are_both_flawed_blue/

Some examples of advice I would give: maintain networks of friends, have something to say that isn't video games or computer programming, take the initiative / be proactive rather than waiting for someone to come to you, look presentable, don't get one-itis, don't try to "court" women by waiting for months to make a move, be courageous and assertive, learn to be appreciative of women while not self deprecating.

A lot of this is the same advice RP gives, just with certain parts removed. (I.e. the parts where you put women "down," either in your own mind or verbally in conversation with them, in order to boost your ego "up" relative to them).

[deleted] · 2018-09-05T14:22:36+00:00

Fuck the blue pill and fuck the red pill-Follow your own path mate

IncomeByEtnicity · 2018-09-04T16:52:39+00:00

Be Yourself. I'll tell you How. To be yourself you have to discover yourself. 2 methods.

A lot of people here will preach socializing. And statistically it helps 90% of all men to gain confidence and be less introverted and introspective. This method works like this. By discovering others, caring about them you see in them reflections of yourself. Little mirrors that give you puzzle piece glimpses into yourself. Do this enough and you start building a more complete picture.This route to self discovery has an exponential growth. The more pieces you have, the better you know where to look for the next piece.
There is another method. It's not for everyone. But it is the one I took. Chronic Isolation.

You need to be financially secure enough to give yourself at minimum of a year to do this. Cut everybody off, and avoid all kinds of media non observational information. What you are doing is choking out the noise. There is 2 parts inside of you. The processor that feeds on information. And the being/life force. In this method, you are choking the processor by cutting off stimulation. There is 3 stages to this.

The Maddening Echos.

As you shut down outside noises, voices start coming in your head. They start of quietly and get louder over time. I had 4 distinct personalities in mine, 3 of them were vocal and hypercritical. The 4th person was different. He stood in the background watching and hearing, but he never spoke. I felt great power in him, but also distance. At the 3 month mark, these voices, which I feel were the echos of reality were the loudest. I could'nt walk outside without talking to these voices. I was merely defending myself from their ridicule. This was the hardest part as it pushed me to the edge of insanity. In retrospect, this is the processor trying self preservation because it was starving without stimuli. The processor that controlled my life thus far was panicking as I took away it's control by dragging it through the abyss.

The Arch Angel of the Abyss.

I had repeated visions of a pea on a plate. Our definition of small or tiny is quite innate. When you picture "tiny". You picture object. Singularity. You also surround it with a ton of empty space. The pea that sat in the middle of the plate is small, but it is also the God of the plate, for over that emptiness, it has full Dominion. Our ego is similar. And our ego is a fabrication of the processor. Choke the processor, you shrink your ego, you kill the 3 voices and the characters they represent. Finally I had the trust of great power within me. The Arch angel of the Abyss is the closest I can describe this powerful inner being.

The bliss.

Time was as still as I have ever experienced. I went to bed at night, fearless about tomorrow. Because without the noise, tomorrow would be identical to today. Armed with my new confidence, life was a noiseless paradise. Everything I saw, I saw deeply. Everything I tasted, I tasted deeply. At some points in your life, you realize that what you have at that moment, you will never get again. It is like flashes from your future letting you know how good the present is. One day, I over-heard a person say "This coming Saturday was (Month) (date). " It was the day after my birthday. I wanted to ask her which year. I soon realized I've had been in this state for 2.5 years. It felt like a lot more. This realization was a little painful, because I had nothing to look back on. Nothing to "Show" that lived these 2.5 years. No memories. And it was this feeling that I had gotten older without realizing pulled me out.

Good luck. And if you want to try it, do it after University. You need to have a fully developed brain (around age 25) to do this right.

Title	More Blue Pill Advice?
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