The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense.

Actually I think this is a very distinct group of people that I think are very damaging to people who actually want or need to learn the ropes when it comes to dating. There's always somebody that does this when it comes to a public space where people can discuss dating. And you have to realize how a lot of these people who talk this way work. These people are naturals so to speak and they never really had to think in a very microscopic way on how to socialize, how to make friends, how to get girlfriends, how to approach women, how to get hookups, etc.

In their mind getting women is just mind-blowingly easy. It's something you don't have to think about. Its there something you do. Like when it comes to breathing, walking, just putting on clothes, or brushing your teeth. You don't need to think about it... You just do it. So of course they can't began to understand how people who aren't naturals with women could possibly struggle.

And I'm here to stop that shit now. The idea that most men need to talk to women like they're human is such a lazy defense. Talk to them like they are human you say? No way I had no idea💡! I thought they were the some sort of bodysnatchers from the X files or something. Maybe I need to stop talking to them like they are dogs because I clearly whistle at them and tell them to fetch sticks.

Like No shit Sherlock! Most guys know that women are human. It doesn't necessarily make them easy to talk to. That's kind of how when a guy says he doesn't know how to talk to women. And somebody says something like "well you're talking to us now". Again just because you can talk to women doesn't mean you will make a good impression, it doesn't mean that you will be able to attract her, engage with her in intriguing conversation, make her laugh, keep her interested, or anything. If anything you could just talk to her about mundane things.

What I say more than anything is... Socializing is hard, getting dates is hard, attracting women is HARD. It's always has been. They have way more standards and they have way more options. So not only do men have to take they lead they have to compete with most men who already have.

If anyone has tried to make conversation with someone you don't know that well it's always gonna be hard. The idea that most men are making it too complicated is just repeated mostly by men who just want to chest thump and tell everyone to not ask for advice