First of all, I am posting this just to complain (I know mods here hate pure complainers), I legitimately want to add value and provoke discussion.

1) Not everything is a shit test – Sometimes women just hate you. I even saw a thread here where the OP posted “Girl told me she wasn’t interested. Shit test?” People forget that there is no such thing as a “shit test” in the real world. “Shit test” is just a term PUAs made up to help you deal with certain situations. In the real world, if a girl calls you a douchebag, well, then, she probably thinks you’re a douchebag. Now, it is true that in certain situations if a girl says something disrespectful or disqualifying to you, you can increase her attraction to you by turning it around or ignoring it. And yes, there are certain situations where girls will “test” you. But… if she calls you a douchebag, no matter how you react, she called you a douchebag. Even if you do fuck her, your relationship is based on assholery and emotional warfare and she will eventually disrespect you in the future when your “shit test” guard is down. The way I see it, if a girl “shit tests” you more than 3 times she probably just doesn’t like you and/or she is a just a jerk. Stay away! I feel sorry for some of you chumps who keep chasing girls that are mean to you or disinterested because you think everything is a “shit test.” I’ve been in that situation before. I am a very quick, witty guy that is good at dealing with insults and zings, but at some point I realized that the girls I was dealing with were just bitches.

2) The answer to every situation is not a witty/funny line. Every single time a person posts “girl just said X to me, how do I respond?” 90% of the answers here are “say this stupid witty line.” No no no! Witty lines are only appropriate in certain situations: the conversation is lighthearted, she is joking (or she knows she is being silly), you are joking, etc… Sometimes a woman is trying to have a genuine conversation with you, or ask you a serious question, or genuinely trying to insult you. In those situations, you have to respond seriously or else you look like a clueless moron. If a girl calls you a piece of shit, and you “agree and amplify” you are being a sleazy weirdo and a weak dork. And furthermore, there is no more hated person on earth than the guy who is always trying to be funny. I can’t tell you how many girls have told me that there is nothing they hate more than the douchebag who thinks he’s funny. Comedy only works when its unexpected, it fits the situation, and the other person is emotionally invested in it. I even saw a thread where an OP posted “girls get angry at me when I answer them with funny lines” and half the responses were more funny lines.

Part of this “make everything a joke” mentality is based on a deep-seeded misogyny that looks at women like they are frivolous children that are only entertained by jokes and games and can’t hold a serious conversation. There are a lot of women who get very offended by men who won’t take them seriously. This also contributes to the stereotype that PUAs are misogynistic creeps who prey on stupid girls with low self-esteem. Mature, educated women in their late 20s and 30s are going to have some serious questions and if you respond to them with a joke then they will next you.

3) Just because this one thing worked for you one time doesn’t mean it will work for everybody. I think this is the biggest problem here – in fact, it’s the biggest problem in the PUA community in general – people try something out on a girl, it works, and they feel like they’ve found the Holy Grail. Entire books have been written and systems have been sold based on the idea that one thing worked for one guy and now he thinks he knows everything. The reality is that women are human beings and they are all different and there are no magic lines that work on all of them (or even a majority of them). Something that will drive one girl crazy for you will sometimes make another girl hate you. The point of the PUA community is to figure some general propositions about how men and women interact and try to expand on that. But just because you told a girl on Facebook that you wanted to eat a chocolate sundae out of her asshole and it worked doesn’t mean it will work for everybody.

4) Your “gimmick” doesn’t work if you can’t get her to date you. There are a lot of “gimmicks” to “trick” a girl into talking to you or giving her your number. These gimmicks are mostly stupid because they are relying on the element of surprise or trickery to get a girl to do something she wouldn’t otherwise do. An example of a gimmick like this is the one where you walk up to a random girl, hand her your phone and just tell her to put your number in. Yes, this gimmick somtimes works because girls are usually so surprised/intimidated/confused that they just do it. But will that girl call you back? Hell no (if you haven’t established attraction). 5 minutes later, she will realize what happened and she will remember you as the creepy weirdo at the club who got her number using a trick. Girls aren’t stupid. Shit, you could get Kate Upton to talk to you if you ran up to her and yelled “oh my god, my father is having a heart attack in the other room, I need your help.” Shit, she might even give you her number. But that doesn’t mean she will date you. Your goal is to establish a real, genuine connection with her, not to get her to talk to you using a worthless trick.

5) DON’T TRY TO FUCK YOUR FRIENDS. Just fucking don’t. Go find somebody else. That’s the whole point of abundance mentality, isn’t it? If your friends wanted to fuck you, they would tell you (or let you know somehow). There is nothing more horrifying for a girl than a guy who she thought was her friend telling her he is in love with her. Imagine your best friend – the guy you’ve known for second grade and who’s been with you through thick and thin. Now imagine him telling you that the only reason he was your friend this whole time was because he wanted to fuck you. Now imagine how you would feel.

6) “How do I tell a girl I like her” – YOU FUCKING DON’T. Your words mean nothing to women and telling a girl you like her is only going to make shit weird. The only time I can think that it would ever appropriate to tell a girl you like her is if you’ve been hanging out with her romantically for a while and she is wondering where it’s going. Otherwise, actions speak louder than words. Any girl that looks even remotely pretty in our society is constantly getting approached and being fed a bunch of fake compliments and bullshit, so she learns to just stop listening to men’s compliments/professions of love. That’s just a sad fact of our society – most men can’t control their emotions and are constantly spewing all kinds of verbal diarrhea at women. I have a friend who works in Hooters and she gets 3-4 marriage proposals a day – they mean nothing to her. Meanwhile, she thinks I’m a really nice guy because I gave her a ride once when her car ran out of gas.

Furthermore, you probably don’t “like” her. You most likely just want to fuck you and are suffering from a weird infatuation because you don’t understand your emotions. Every girl above the age of 16 has been in a relationship with a guy who told her he liked her and then 3 weeks later changed his mind and/or became a psycho maniac.

7) “It won’t hurt to call her one more time.” Yes it will. Even if you’ve given up on her and want to throw one last Hail Mary, you are lowering your value in your own eyes. You are what you do and every time you get rejected, your brain undergoes a chemical reaction where it thinks its more of a piece of shit than before. Feelings of social anxiety, inferiority and attachment are emotions that we can’t completely control, and pursuing women that are rejecting us just make those emotions worse. And “she’s really hot” isn’t an excuse.

8) There is more to self improvement than lifting and dressing well. There is nothing wrong with lifting and dressing well, but there is much more to life. You should also become intelligent, articulate, creative, and find a passion in life that has nothing to do with women. If you think self improvement is just lifting and buying new clothes, then you’ve already made your life all about women and getting laid, which is the first step to unhappiness.

9) Fix your life first. I see a lot of guys post here with serious problems (anxiety, depression, low self-esteem) in their life that need to be fixed with therapy or something before they should even think about getting laid. If your life has a hole in it, trying to fill it with the attention of women is the last thing you should do.

10) “Girl said X. How do I respond?” Jesus Fucking Christ – figure it out yourself! You can’t rely on other people to tell you what to say in every single sitatuion. The point of PUA is to learn general principles you can apply in all situations, not to learn a bunch of canned lines that may or may not work with your particular girl. What happens when you’re on a date? Are you going to go to the bathroom and post on r/askseddit a question about how to respond to her last “shit test”? Also, you can’t obsess about every word a girl says – in every conversation both sides are going to make mistakes and say stupid things, you will literally go crazy if you overthink every word you say. And finally, most of the answers you’re getting are from weirdos on the internet who have never actually tried these lines or will try these lines in real life.

11) “I have low self esteem/ I have approach anxiety / I don’t know how to talk to girls, etc..” – You just gotta practice. There is nothing anybody here can tell you about how to conquer your anxiety or talk to girls. You just have to practice. In fact, I would characterize “confidence” as a skill like weightlifting that you have to practice to get good at. JUST DO IT.

12) Stop relying on TV and movies for guidance!! Not only are those things not real, they often actively promote ideas/beliefs/tactics that are the opposite of what you should actually do. In fact, I think one of the biggest reasons the PUA community even exists is that our society teaches men how to deal with women in the complete wrong way, and that includes TV and movies. The writers of TV and movies oftentimes know nothing about PUA, so they just depict men and women as they think they are or how they wish they would act. Just as you wouldn't pick up seduction techniques from a porno, neither should you try to learn anything from a James Bond movie or a Youtube video.

13) "What's the deal with college/coffee shop/cruise ship/library/airport game?" Women are women are women - they are all the same. There is no difference between game in a coffee shop or in a college class or at a White House dinner. Just act appropriate for the situation and for the person you are talking to.