The men constantly whining that "Women will never date the average man :( :( :( " all look like me, or very similar, and are projecting their experience onto everyone else. They then seek out data from dating apps to show (well it is to prove it to themselves really) "I'm average and the only reason I can't date is because women only go for Chad in the top 5%".

They believe they are average, they are not.

Yes if you look like I do women are going to find you rather repulsive. But just because you're uniquely ugly does not mean that women hate all '''average''' guys. Your experience is just unique and you think of yourself as average when you are, definitively, well well below average. Like very bottom of the barrel.

But nobody wants to admit that they're fairly disgusting to look at so they go "Wahh I'm average and women won't date me wahh" and just fucking cry about it.

However I think both Red Pillers and Blue Pillers actually contribute to this. instead of just saying "You're well below average, you have nothing to contribute to this conversation" everyone just goes "Ah yes those darn women who only want the top 20% of dudes!" or will obfuscate in some other way.

What I'm saying is we need to be significantly more mean to people who look like me. Bring back bullying and remind them "Hey you're not average, yes women are going to find you repulsive, no that says literally nothing about the modern dating market, find a hole to cry in while everyone else actually has a productive conversation".