What does a top 20% man look like?

Bouldershoulders12 · 2024-05-17T19:28:46+00:00

80th percentile male height in US : 181 CM or 5’11.25

Income: ~90-95k

Weight/BF: Sub 20% BF probably 180-190 pounds if adjusting for height . Average male (50th percentile) is 5’9.3 198 pounds and 40” waist so basically overweight and 30%-35% BF

Approximate physical appearance: probably a 7-7.5/10 . Not a model but objectively attractive to all races.

Body Count: 10-15 . Average guy only has 7-8 lifetime partners .

Value of his car: either higher end Japanese car (Lexus, Infiniti) or entry level German car (A4, 3 Series, C class) . This is hard to quantify because wealth =\= car driven

Job Title: Assume a career that requires at least a bachelors degree and preferably a masters. Only 1/3 of Americans have a bachelors, 1/11 have a masters.

Value of home = Depends on location. And hard to quantify because a guy can choose a condo over a 5 bedroom home if it’s just him.

I think the biggest thing to note is that if a guy were to have all this simultaneously he wouldn’t even be top 20% he would be more closer to top 5%. For instance 14% of American men are 6’ or taller and only about 15-20% of American men make 100k or more but a guy who’s 6’ and makes 100k that’s closer to 1% . That’s how statistics work

caption291 · 2024-05-17T22:36:30+00:00

Being top 20% or above in everything makes you higher than top 20% overall so just answering what's top 20% in every metric is wrong.

So instead I'll say how much bellow the top 20% you can realistically go in every metric and still be top 20% overall. By realistic I mean that you don't have to be top 1% in the rest to compensate.

Height: 20% (top 40%/above average)

weight/bf%: 30% (top 50%/average)

appearance: 10% (top 30%/above average)

Job title: 70% (top 90%/ very bellow average)

body count: 80% (it doesn't matter)

value of home/car: 70% (top 90%/very bellow average)

That's the "negative", I'm too lazy to think about it but I think the "positive" wouldn't just be the same weights but reversed.

SilentFroggy · 2024-05-18T00:23:09+00:00

Depends on what you mean by the top 20%. Most of what redpillers claim to be top 20% only attracts gold diggers.

LapazGracie · 2024-05-17T19:08:28+00:00

Depends.......

You travel to the right side of the planet and most of your average looking non-obese Western men would be top 20% men.

OtPayOkerSmay · 2024-05-17T19:02:43+00:00

Average to above average height (I've even seen short guys slay), lowish bf% or healthy bf% and physically active, above average physical appearance (strong jaw and chin [low bf% helps with this], good hairstyle), above average income, interesting/exciting career helps.

I would say the rest are inconsequential, assuming the guy isn't socially retarded and can flirt.

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MotleyCrew1989 · 2024-05-17T19:09:38+00:00

Realistically or internet version?

SsRapier · 2024-05-19T23:33:49+00:00

Height: above 6'

Weight: Around 80kgs

Bodyfat: 10% or less

Physical Appearance: 7/10+

Job Title: doesnt matter.

Body count: doesnt matter

Approx. N° of new sex partners: doesnt matter, but its high.

Value of home: Any home as long as its not his parents home

Value of car: any car as long as its his

Competitive-Ask4393 · 2024-05-17T19:00:15+00:00

Using ur things. For a top 20% I’d assume

5’10 - 5’11+
Depends on height but usually within that lean muscular size
12 - 15%
7/10 - probably has 1 or 2 desired traits like a sharp jaw, strong chin etc. clear skin, really good symmetry. No bad physical traits like severe balding.
Depends on location but 6 figures
Specialised / desired role at their job e.g. manager.
Idk it would be above average so say 10 - 30 range
Depends on the person. Some go crazy for a year or 2 then chill, others are always active
Top 20% would have a paid off place
High end bmw / Mercedes range

Also usually fairly confident + socially conscious compared to the average guy.

This is top 20%. Top 5 - 10% would be the whole very rich, very hot etc. most guys look like complete shit.

TallFoundation7635 · 2024-05-17T19:59:48+00:00

Damn, great post.

Height: 5 foot 11
Weight: Probably 185ish
Body fat % 17 percent body fat. Not a bullshit 17 percent bodyfat but a legit 17 percent bodyfat with muscle. Bench 2 plates, squat 2.5 to 3 plates, deadlift 3.5 to 4 plates
Approximate physical appearance (scale from 1-10): 6.5
Income: 100,000+
Job title (give multiple examples if you'd like): Engineer, Chartered Account, accountant
Body count- I don't think body count matters that much.
Approximate number of new sexual partners per year (assume this man is dating casually, FWB, one night stands, etc.) Probably 3 to 5
Value of home/apartment, I don't think matters as much. Women care more about the optics, so as long as you are in a good neighbourhood and have good furniture, you'd be set.
Value of his car (specify model if you'd like, but not required)-A lower end german car. Audi A4, C class merc, Bmw 3 series etc.

To be fair this is probably around top 15 percent, but close enough.

Hatespanch · 2024-05-18T09:34:12+00:00

7/10 Face and 6'/180cm with a decent social circle and a normal job is already top 20%. If you don't have those, you need more than being in the top 20% for income or job position to compensate.

SlowEffective8146 · 2024-05-17T20:49:10+00:00

None of this matters really. Why does his job matter if you're trying to determine what he looks like? Why does his bodycount matter?

All that matters is he's tall enough and hot, and can talk to women.

_ENO__ · 2024-05-17T18:49:09+00:00

Nothing of this stupid list fucking matters, if you don’t have game.

DarayRaven · 2024-05-17T18:51:42+00:00

Acceptable-Truck3803 · 2024-05-17T20:19:27+00:00

No woman won’t claim you to be a top 20% man if you attempt to cross off a “check list.” This is the same concept as putting money into the vending machine and expecting things in return after awhile

You can do things to dramatically increase your chances at dating/flings, etc.

bradlite · 2024-05-17T20:31:00+00:00

Physical appearance is simply girls would call you handsome. Women check you out as you walk by. Girls call basic doable guys like this a 5/10, they don’t rate on a bell curve. You can cold approach any girl and she wants to hear what you got to say.

Income, 90k+ is desired, $250k+ is highly desired.

Any job title that she can verify online as high salary like you work at a law firm or specialist doctor. This helps immensely with dating apps. Ugly anesthesiologists get hella dates because the girl knows what she’s getting.

Girls care about a nice place a lot, if you got a $4k/mo apartment to a $30 million mansion it’s going to help with girls a ton. You walk your date into a mansion good luck getting her to leave, let alone not dying to have sex with you.

Title	What does a top 20% man look like?
Author	Solondthewookiee
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Date	May 17, 2024 6:44 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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