How did RP help you? | PurplePillDebate

Lemon_gecko · 2025-10-30T12:25:56+00:00

RP is a tool, or so i've been told all the time, and it's not an ideology. Okay, so you like that tool and you're using it. What the...

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I was a kissless virgin that saw everyone around me in relationships, and making out, and having sex. I knew I was broken. It wasn't that I was bad at the game, I couldn't even play it at all. It was like my peers talked in a language I didn't understand.

I had the certainty that something essential about me was irreparably broken. That I wasn't good enough. I did all the things I thought I had to do. I was funny, I was supportive, I was kind. I had a lot of friends -women- that called me amazing. Yet none of them ever wanted anything past that.

Now I understand what my failings were. How I was too nice. How my niceness and support carried an undertone of desperation. How my respect carried pedestalization, and how treating women as amazing beings that have no impure thoughts and that had to like me as a person was the wrong way to go.

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RP cured me of being an incel. I was the type of guy who grew up with very progressive altruistic values, but a very hard time doing any kind of introspection of my own success/happiness.

RP got me caring more about myself and less about anyone else. That’s not always a good thing, but for me it’s what I needed. RP’s analysis of women is just objectively correct I think, although sometimes it’s delivered with a malice women don’t deserve.

Armed with this knowledge I focused on dating apps. I was a dateless kissless 35+ year old virgin so this was new and not easy. It’s not like the RP was a magic spell; I didn’t get a ton of matches, and some of the matches/dates I did get were not compatible. But, after about 6 months I had a body count of 3, and a girlfriend I’ll probably marry one day.

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I went on dating apps and followed all the best normie meta advice like what types of photos in my profile, etc. I deliberately paced myself to save ego/energy, by only swiping right once per app per day on a girl I thought was genuinely in my league and genuinely might get along with.

I also constructed one very robust lie to soften some of my red flags. I constructed a lie that I fooled around with a girl I used to play MMORPGs with. I was a dateless KHHV; but I invented this story to be a PIV virgin who’d been in one LDR. And then like any good liar, I didn’t recite my story at the first opportunity. I guarded it like a secret. But I had the story on file in my brain if I had to let it trickle out.

Over about a year I got maybe 10 good matches and went on 5 first dates. Other than my one big lie, I tried to just be myself.

But keep in mind how the female brain works. Women are wired to want to be swept away by a mysterious man from the neighbouring tribe. First dates from apps need to be safe above all else, but second dates (or first dates if you were previously friends) should be somewhere exciting where you are more in your element than her. If it’s an activity it’s something you’re good at, if it’s a place it’s a place where you’re a regular. I didn’t and wouldn’t go much deeper into pick up artist psychology than this, but this much seemed very useful.

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No I haven't studied moral development by some classification systems. You brought it up out of nowhere. Sounds like both systems ARE, well, made up. Why don't you cite the studies for this in-depth research as to where women fit in, besides telling me what the man claims with no data? Perhaps men rarely make it past as well. We all know plenty who haven't made it to a good moral place, that's for sure. None of it is an excuse to take on an equal adult relationship where you think you're superior to a woman. What is "rarely?" Whatever "rarely" is, the topic here was men controlling major decisions in couples' lives - as if these decisions are morally impacting those outside in the world? You've definitely gone off on a tangent with this, but decisions should be made together. Attempt to have a relationship where you think your word/opinions matters more is a recipe for many problems including potentially abuse. Even if you're not having problems due to the relationship, living with and creating more would be nothing but a responsibility on your shoulders. We don't need you to save us like that - it's fine to step aside, we wouldn't want to owe you anything.

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The fact that a triggered feminist had to make up her own ethics system to refute his claim is proof that he nailed her and her entire sex to the wall. You don’t work that hard to refute things unless you’re afraid they’re right.

The entire basis for an equal partnership is that the partners are equals. Women are not equals. They’re biologically weaker. They’re less morally developed. They make less money despite loudly boasting about their academic accomplishments. They’re not required to defend their country via conscription. They’re allowed to murder their children. They’re given lighter sentences for the same crimes. They’re pampered, privileged, and would crumble in a world that treats them like men and not upper class citizens.

So, men have no reason to treat them as adults. Because women have shown that they can only act “adult” when given a handicap.

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ou don’t work that hard to refute things unless you’re afraid they’re right.

It's a whole ass field of study. You can't just discount her because she believes women deserve rights lmfao. There were going to be people to disagree with him and take a different direction - especially in such a subjective thing that basically is a part of philosophy.

They’re pampered, privileged, and would crumble in a world that treats them like men and not upper class citizens.

I'm not interested in speaking with you if you think women making difficult decisions and having that responsibility on their shoulders and also medically going through it makes YOU/MEN oppressed. Stop fucking people that you don't see as adults. That is really the only thing I have to say to you. Please don't sleep with women.

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“Paying for the first date” isn’t a value. It’s a transaction. A value would be the reasons he pays for the first date. Those reasons usually boil down to (1) easier access to pussy (amoral pragmatism), or (2) antiquated ideas about gender roles that women pretend to abhor until the moment it benefits them.

The fact that the guy who’s stuck with you insisted on it tells me, at a casual glance, that he’s mid as hell, and his values suck. Your entire reason for liking it is, again, shallow.

the majority of men here wouldn't pass my vetting process for a first date

None of the men here have any interest in you, so this is pointless to bring up except as a knee jerk, insecure reaction to being judged poorly. The equivalent of a guy getting rejected by a hot girl and immediately insulting her looks. You’re a laughing stock.

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It's kind of tricky, but when women say personality they often mean how good he makes her feel. That means social skills, game, assertiveness and general compatibility, being interesting (for her). etc etc. We have to take a woman into account too. Some carry trauma and have 0 standards or used to toxic dynamic and healthy relationship isn't for her. But still it's all about how he makes her feel. People who can make more people feel good - more popular and successful, people who can't - well you know. Personality is a vague term, and maybe we should redefine that part of it to not create a confusion about being good person in general (whatever that means). Because many men have school-like mentality, where you do a task and for that you'll get a certain grade. If you don't get it - it's not fair, people lied etc. Where you have to do simple stuff that nobody cares for for a grade and approval. So they lead a granny across the street and check for women because now they are good.

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Money literally does not equal sex that's a wildly inaccurate comparison that goes directly into my perception it must be all about ego for some people. Sex with other people comes with diseases, responsibilities, and sometimes children. Sex with other people will impact your whole social life and invite people to your home - and not in the positive way that money will always just increase opportunity.

I am not trying to moralize any failures, have you read my comments? I'm saying sex for a few nights does not equal success. People who are struggling that badly, who I believe are a rare case, are ignoring the fact that "success" does not happen in a vacuum. Sharing it with someone who trashes your house or otherwise treats you poorly or someone you don't respect is almost always the reason it ends quickly - because someone wants it to. Relationships are supposed to include more than sex. I absolutely realize that relationship success can be important, but breaking that down into sex alone is a narrow viewpoint I would argue is entirely wrong and pointless.

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Money literally does not equal sex that's a wildly inaccurate comparison that goes directly into my perception it must be all about ego for some people. Sex with other people comes with diseases, responsibilities, and sometimes children. Sex with other people will impact your whole social life and invite people to your home - and not in the positive way that money will always just increase opportunity.

Uh money comes with alot of problems too, jealousy, robbery, murder, scammers, i can go on. Money will impact social life and invite people you wouldnt want in your life. Cmon now youre making it easy.

I am not trying to moralize any failures, have you read my comments? I'm saying sex for a few nights does not equal success. People who are struggling that badly, who I believe are a rare case, are ignoring the fact that "success" does not happen in a vacuum. Sharing it with someone who trashes your house or otherwise treats you poorly or someone you don't respect is almost always the reason it ends quickly - because someone wants it to

It does when your excluded from it. You are being dismissive of the privilege, you are moralizing it by claiming its some personality defect when people who are worse aren't inhibited by their destructive personalities, you are indirectly stating those who struggle are worse than those people in the sexual market. Sex in a relationship can be better(depending on what a person wants), but only having the option of having sex is way better than nothing at all.

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Money will impact social life and invite people you wouldnt want in your life. Cmon now youre making it easy.

No money doesn't do that. People do that. You can have money put away and people don't even have to know about it. You can't have sex on your own!

only having the option of having sex is way better than nothing at all.

I have literally only ever turned that down, and while that may soothe the ego in some sense, it doesn't stop a person from having very genuine feelings of loneliness and self-worth struggles if they never do have a healthy family or someone to share their vacations and their home and their retirement with.

you are indirectly stating those who struggle are worse than those people in the sexual market.

Some of them might be. Who are you to say you are better than some strung-out junkie who has sex a time or two when you can't see the difference between seeking sex and seeking a full relationship? All I'm saying is that it's important to know the difference.

I don't know anyone online. Y'all are all strangers to me. I have no idea why any of you struggle or for low long you've struggled. I only see the difference in communication between "oh no I'm struggling because sex" and some deeper analysis that acknowledges sex doesn't occur in a vacuum, what you're looking for matters.

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Money does do that, like anything of value, money, sex, drugs, it will absolutely do that.

I have literally only ever turned that down, and while that may soothe the ego in some sense, it doesn't stop a person from having very genuine feelings of loneliness and self-worth struggles if they never do have a healthy family or someone to share their vacations and their home and their retirement with.

Im not denying the loneliness that comes from not having a family, but youre still doing better than the person who gets neither.

Some of them might be. Who are you to say you are better than some strung-out junkie who has sex a time or two when you can't see the difference between seeking sex and seeking a full relationship? All I'm saying is that it's important to know the difference.

So I am correct then its not a personality flaw when people in worse situations have access. Thank you for proving my point cause I didnt say those who struggled where better than junkies, just pointing out the mid is more successful which you tried to deny.

You ignoring your privilege against those who get nothing, wont make it any less true.

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First of all, I am not single but I am childless right now. I am not denying my privilege - I am lucky my husband found me. There have probably been good people to be lonely, and that's a tragedy, but also in order to be this successful I absolutely had to learn about myself and what I want. I had to be a good person and exercise self-control and work hard and learn to compromise. If I were just unlucky OR I wasn't able to do those things because of my life choices, I would be better off celibate than having unsatisfactory sex with unsatisfactory people.

It's situational. There are junkies who have sex. Are they successful? Because they have sex? I assumed that's what you meant because you were pretty specific about it. I don't look at success in those terms at all, actually. I often got offers from men like that. I turned them down. Could've still remained a virgin and that would be my version of success. Is that not making sense to you?

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I am surprised at someone being so wrong in so little text.

Sigh.

Okay, I'll address it:

You’ve been told by the redpill that’s it’s not your personality, it’s your looks/height/status that woman go for because they are shallow etc

No. "Personality" is important. Personality includes things like charisma, assertiveness, confidence and competence, all critically important traits when trying to be attractive.

What doesn't impact attractiveness is being kind, supportive, respectful, dedicated, listening or emotionally available. Those aspects of personality, however useful they are in their right moderation for someone already attracted to you, are at best useless and at worst counterproductive when securing attraction.

You don’t have a nice one, your not a nice person to be around or to be with.

When I said "at worst counterproductive", this is a shining example. Niceness is overall a negative trait, and a mostly unattractive one. By becoming "nicer" you're guaranteeing infinite disappointment, and those who encourage niceness do so in an attempt to make you easier to deal with, not more successful.

You can blame your height, money, women all you want, but the problem is ultimately you

Two out of three examples you give go back to ultimately you. And the red pill insists that your lack of success is... ultimately your own doing. And yes, most of what can be improved is "personality". Just not niceness.

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Exactly! Redpilled men are a constant double standard and a complete no win situation fir woman

Remain a virgin until you meet the right guy, but you also must offer him raw sex in the first date so he knows you are attracted to him but if he mistreats you in anyway it’s your fault for not vetting better. Have all the sex you want with as many guys as you want but you’ll only get to 30 with cats and no man will take you seriously and as a woman you’ll never make that much money so you’ll be desperate on the streets and if your not it’s because your secretly a prostitute or your using men on the side to pay for you Be naturally beautiful but don’t wear make up do skin care or even exercise to much Remain skinny even though I want you to eat the same as men

(Christ I feel like it’s the gonegirl speech with redpill men)

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This will apply to the narcissist comment as well. Some people care more about character, some care more about optics. Character will always be reflected in actions, not just how charismatic you are or how good of a talker you are.

For those that care about optics, the plate spinner will seem desirable and has likely gained enough experience to know the right things to say invoke those "vibes" or "sparks." It's superficial, but it clearly works or he wouldn't be able to do what he's doing in the first place. The results speak for themselves. And just like how the kid will likely talk himself into going to the candy store, then make excuses that it was outside his control afterwards, a lot of women will buy whatever the guy is selling and claim they were bamboozled to feel better about it after the fact.

The RP woman is aware of this clearly, but most aren't as self aware, or they wouldn't be complaining about this all over social media and making sites like "are we dating the same guy." Like, we all know Leonardo Di'Caprio MO when it comes to dating at this point. Yet young women keep lining up because he's achieved what they desire, so they'll take the risk.

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Sure. Hell, I'll tell you how I got my wife.

I was travelling, blablacar (a shared ride company). I was a passenger. Hadn't slept that night, so I was completely zombie.

On the front seat was a good looking woman. Roughly my age (I was 25 at the time). When we made a pit stop to have a coffee and the like, I struck some casual conversation.

I can strike up a casual conversation because during my teenage years (well closer to 20s) I practiced and practiced and practiced, got rejected so many fucking times, to the point that I have absolutely no nervousness talking to women at all, no matter how attractive.

So I struck up conversation, asked if she was on holidays, learned where she was from, that she was visiting my city as a tourist, ETC. Made some jokes, some casual chat, told her a few things about my country, and back to the car.

When we arrived to my city, in that brief moment of taking the packs out of the car, I gave her my number (I'll reply myself to continue because reddit gets stupid about long comments)

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I made up a stupid excuse ("If you want a guide of the city, I'm free this week"). No one cares about the excuse, both she and I knew it was an excuse. It doesn't need to be tricky or elaborate.

Also, you need to give your number, because if you ASK for the number you're more likely to trigger some defenses. So you give your number and let her decide.

Finally, I knew the occasion wasn't ideal (Traffic, cars, language barrier) but a lot of practice again helped.

When she texted, I proposed a very central park (think Hyde Park) for a picnic. Because a park is chill enough that you can talk and relax, but public enough that the woman won't feel unsafe (Maximizes chance of a yes).

The moment she arrived, I made a point of looking her from head to toes in a very obvious manner. Again basic red pill stuff: you need to show romantic and sexual interest EARLY to set the tone of the "date".

As we walked and talked, I also made an effort to touch her. Briefly, shoulder, or hips when dodging between people. Touch her hand a couple times during conversation, ETC. This is in every fucking PUA book.

Long story short, by the end of the day, I had kissed her, we made out.

By the end of the week we had fucked twice, and then she returned to her country and we stayed friends.

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Was it that hard?

You see, when someone says something racist, or makes a sexist joke, it's extremely funny to pretend not to get it. The reaction is the same as yours.

"Well you know"

"It's the stereotype"

"If you don't get it..."

You decided to go with racial stereotyping and some extra sprinkled sexist assumptions, and I had a lot of fun seeing you struggle.

And you know what's the cherry on the top? The thing that had both me and my wife laughing our asses off?

You are so prejudiced, so blinded by whatever odd jealousy or fucked up feeling that you needed to see it as what you described it.

"Oh no, this guy talking about a company I've never heard about, about a practice that barely exists in my country! He sounds robotic in english... and he isn't familiar with expressions. He must be an autistic dunce only being used for his money. He's so confused about my initial insinuations!"

Not once it went through your head that maybe I'm not american. That english could be my second (third, by the way) language. Must be autism.

Maybe russian people aren't known to be "mail in brides" here because I don't live in a particularly richer country. Maybe the possibility didn't go through my mind as she met me when I wasn't even working, and we married when she was already making significantly more than I make. But that breaks your bigoted mold, so it's much easier to think I didn't get it because autism.

Not gonna lie, I had a blast. Thank you, Beth.

I rarely have the pleasure of talking to someone so basic.

"He doesn't know all English jargon. He must be... autistic."

Still cracking up.

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You see, when someone says something racist, or makes a sexist joke, it's extremely funny to pretend not to get it. The reaction is the same as yours.

Something racist

From Research gate:

Although Eastern Europe is one of the top three regions of origin for marriage migrants, little is known about who chooses this type of marriage arrangement. This study describes demographic characteristics of Eastern European-U.S. international marriages using a nationally representative sample

Spouses in Eastern-European-U.S. couples were found to differ significantly by age, income, education, and number of previous marriages.

Women who immigrate from developing nations to wealthier ones also have heightened odds of being in age heterogenous partnerships, demonstrating how nationality and youth are exchanged in gendered ways

You might want to contact researchgate, I'm not sure they're aware that documenting trends with women who marry foreign partners is in fact racist.

You are so prejudiced, so blinded by whatever odd jealousy or fucked up feeling that you needed to see it as what you described it.

I'm prejudiced against... my own race?

"Oh no, this guy talking about a company I've never heard about, about a practice that barely exists in my country!

What company? What the actual fuck are you talking about?

He must be an autistic dunce only being used for his money. He's so confused about my initial insinuations!"

I never said you were being used for money, where the fuck are you getting this?

Not once it went through your head that maybe I'm not american.

I never said you were American, I'm not even American.

Maybe the possibility didn't go through my mind as she met me when I wasn't even working, and we married when she was already making significantly more than I make. But that breaks your bigoted mold, so it's much easier to think I didn't get it because autism.

That doesn't negate anything I said.

Again, I must be missing something being bigoted against my OWN race?

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I was a turbo virgin. Used to get asked out frequently but got a little chubby. so the grade school romances stopped and was ignored by women, even women in my friend groups. Had really strong male friends, was well liked in three friend groups. But the ladies never liked me. They wouldn't want to engage in conversations, respond shortly, change the topic often. Well it stayed this way well through my university education. Tried OLD, for years. Women would want to talk for weeks before a date, but would never accept a date. Or would ghost by three messages. Or simply unmatch. Years of that. It's okay, I was focusing on other things and my career.

Well implemented the red pill in my life. 8 first dates with 8 different women within 2 weeks of updating my photos. 0 first dates in 10 years to 8 just by becoming chad.

these women would invite me over for dinner date 2. And these were NOT dinner dates. Not with what happened without fail.

The red pill works. It factually describes male female behavior dynamics and its teachings make relationships successful.

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I started reading about the RPW concepts about 7 years ago, while I was in a relationship with a guy who had mostly feminine/ beta traits. It didn’t match my desires at all. I was working, paying for everything, AND taking care of the house. I was both roles while he smoked and played video games.

I was miserable and fat and angry, and resented tf out of him. (Don’t worry, I know I had a role in it too, not blaming just explaining).

Anyway - through RPW I learned more about my femininity, what it means to me, how to identify what I want, improve myself and go after it. I grew up under a single mom who taught me to be angry with the world and masculine, so there was a lot to fight through and uncover in me.

Lost a bunch of weight, got pretty for the first time, was very open and vocal about the type of man I wanted and found him on Reddit!

I’m not gonna say our relationship has been perfect. He’s very dominant / had a lot more “alpha” traits which means learning to listen, emote, accept criticism etc was hard for him.

But RPW also taught me what it’s like to be masculine. How to approach it, nurture it and get the best out of it by complementing with my feminine.

I focus on cleaning up my side of the street. Taking care of myself, being gentle and submissive, but never a doormat.

We recently worked through some big issues on his end and were in a great place after 6 years of us figuring it out together. But leaning into the RPW teaching, reading books on the philosophy are the reason I was able to get here.

He is not red pill, btw. I think he’s naturally aware of what red pill for men teaches, but he’s never spun plates or viewed women in the same type of light it seems that sub does.

Idk if it will help anyone but I found he understands some things about emotions, opening up etc. better if he learns it from other men. It’s not because he doesn’t trust me or want to know what I’m saying…but sometimes men and women’s approaches are so different it just doesn’t resonate with the other person.

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Title	How did RP help you?
Author	Lemon_gecko
Upvotes	20
Comments	373
Date	October 30, 2025 12:25 PM UTC (9 months ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1ojy9s4/how_did_rp_help_you/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/how-did-rp-help-you.1565395 https://theredarchive.com/post/1565395

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