Nothing wrong with dating actually

Junior_Ad_3086 · 2025-12-20T16:34:30+00:00

there is no your truth, my truth or whoever else's truth. truth is objective.

RealityCold4693 · 2025-12-20T16:23:24+00:00

Why don’t yall have the same energy for the women who have these exact complaints and the big difference is most of complaints from men from age 15-23 while most of complaints from women are 27+ it just funny to me

s0ngsforthedeaf · 2025-12-20T15:43:29+00:00

If you're good looking, you can have whatever you want.

antenonjohs · 2025-12-20T15:50:21+00:00

I’d argue there’s still a lot of dissatisfaction with being single or being in a bad relationship, and this is “wrong”. Societal norms/expectations play a big role and there’s more nuance than people just being free to make their own choices regarding it.

It’s also interesting to me how differently you treat men and women in the body of the post.

PuzzleheadedGrab8375 · 2025-12-20T20:53:40+00:00

Is it a mother’s job to make sure her daughter doesn’t gain her self- confidence from relationships to men? And if yes why are so many mothers failing at that job?

Or is it indeed the job of someone’s son to make women feel self worthy?

SpookyPutin · 2025-12-20T15:39:38+00:00

Oh yeah this is the best time in human history.

Men and women have been given the freedom to experiment but now we have to figure out what works for everyone.

This is a transition period while men and women figure out the new dynamics. The only thing I can say for certain right now is that neither men nor women are currently where we'll be when the dust settles.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2025-12-21T02:08:22+00:00

The biggest problem with dating is most women’s body fat percentage is way too high for their standards because they lack self control with the fork and are too lazy to lift weights.

IgorXY · 2025-12-20T16:08:11+00:00

I can say the same about any discrimination: free people making choices. Why is it ok in dating but not ok in other areas?

jazzmaster1992 · 2025-12-20T15:48:46+00:00

You cannot blame women for having their sexual preferences,

In a roundabout way, this is or at least was what the Red Pill aims to do. It was essentially "women have standards and they like masculine men, if you want relationships with them then you need to understand this". For some reason many folks will take what TRP says and spin it as blaming, which I can sort of understand why. It's just odd when i.e. someone says "women trend to prefer tall men" and there is a torrent of responses saying that this person is "blaming women for their dating failures", or even drag it as an "incel talking point", even though said observation is very real to basically anyone. There is sometimes this air of resentment or bitterness that really drags down meaningful and helpful TRP messaging, but ultimately The Manosphere was at least at one time, largely about helping guys overcome their struggles in life, primarily in regards to attracting women, and you'd actively get shit on in forums if you just wanted to cry about how hard dating is instead of doing anything to make your own life better.

TheOneWhoThinketh · 2025-12-20T17:18:00+00:00

women are just women and don't owe us to teach us how a man should date, act, think, speak or behave

Actually, women do owe us that. The reason they didn't before was because the patriarchy enforced gender roles. If you're gonna argue that women aren't a monolith, everyone has individual preferences and that sexuality is fluid and different for each person, then each person has to teach their partner their sexuality. That's actually part of consent and the whole basis of communicating about sex with your partner. With freedom, comes responsibility.

You cannot blame women for having their sexual preferences,

Yes, you cannot blame women for their sexual preferences, but their sexual preferences are not the problem with dating. The problem with dating is women's unrealistic expectations. Not necessarily their unrealistic expectations of what they want in a relationship, but what they believe men should want in a relationship. Just like women's preferences matter, so do men's.

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bafun13 · 2025-12-20T16:08:49+00:00

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Disastrous_Agent9307 · 2025-12-20T17:00:12+00:00

I think both parents have the job of showing their children what to expect and seek in a relationship via how they themselves treat their partner.

I think if you look at this dynamic, it explains way more of the dating struggles than anyone is totally comfortable with acknowledging.

So it's more than mom assuring, she should be demonstrating to a son what he should seek and expect and be mindful that if she's not showing up in a healthy way, he'll seek unhealthy patterns himself. Same for dads with daughters.

Otherwise, I basically agree it's not women's job to teach men how to be in romantic connection with them to the degree men here seem to want. They can only give feedback via words and actions.

Healthy-Unit-8830 · 2025-12-20T18:59:50+00:00

I’m confused, what does any of your comment have to do with what I said?

bluepillarmy · 2025-12-21T02:00:36+00:00

Smartest words I’ve seen on this sub

Vaudeville_Clown · 2025-12-21T08:42:51+00:00

Would have been an excellent thing to say a decade earlier. The problem now is that almost everyone's a shut-in these days. Normal people begin to sound like autists with too little social muscle or skill.

Heck even many women can be sort of "buh?" when you attempt to speak to them. I'm not talking about cold approaches, just regular interactions where you aren't unwelcome or anything either.

It's just that holding and actually feeding into a conversation is a strain now somehow and too much work. Until they get back to their phone.

It's like you yourself have to be even more now, the brave social corrective everyone else is waiting for?

Axis_Control · 2025-12-21T16:45:24+00:00

People are free to choose who they want to be with now so that's really all there is to it.

Flying_Fortress_8743 · 2025-12-20T16:02:46+00:00

You cannot blame women for having their sexual preferences

Why not?

DankuTwo · 2025-12-20T16:35:08+00:00

Ah yes, because we all know that collapsing birth rates are truly the sign of a healthy society….

Nothing wrong with dating actually

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