This question is for people who are red pill, who are not in "rage phase" or whatever you're calling it, and who wants or are in long term relationship. If you're red pill and want just have sex it's not for you.

I do understand the game when i want something superficial. Or i do understand that for initial steps. But when i want relationship i actually want a person who i can be as natural as i am, without any games, manipulations and so on. I don't want to see him as a child, who can't understand me, and so on. For me relationships are between equals who like each other, otherwise there is no point.

When i read what red pill guys say, they basically build relationship on the idea that you need to "manage" woman. You need to play her, you need to treat her as an "oldest teenager in the house" and so on. So my question is why do you even want women in your life then? What do they bring of value to you?