Telling A Woman You Earn More Than You Do Could Soon Be Rape (These wheels must power all of Paris)

divorcedbp · 2015-05-27T03:05:01+00:00

I cheer this law being passed, due to the fact that every woman who lies about her sexual past, is unfaithful, or 'forgets' her pill is now instantly a rapist.

Oh wait, that won't ever happen, ever, because no DA would ever file charges.

"My past shouldn't matter! I chose you!" Is EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME as "I have a seven figure job, and vacation in the Bahamas."

KurrKurr · 2015-05-27T03:55:02+00:00

"On the one hand, we want law enforcement to have the law on their side in order to go after sexual predators who try to lure victims into sexual situations through deceit,"

Surely this fair and balanced justice system will also punish women who lie about their age or partner count, women who wear makeup, and women who have had plastic surgery, as those are all forms of sexual deceit.

..the bill would make "sexual assault by fraud" a punishable offense. The bill defines it as "an act of sexual penetration to which a person has given consent because the actor has misrepresented the purpose of the act or has represented he is someone he is not."

Of course.

pirateundies · 2015-05-27T02:57:16+00:00

And yet women who commit paternity fraud continue skipping through the daisies.

ktchong · 2015-05-27T04:18:49+00:00

In France, it is also illegal for a man to get a DNA paternity test, (i.e., feminists oppose paternity test and has called it an "anti-feminist application of science.")

France

Paternity testing is regulated by the state and only allowed in certain cases:

Without a court order the express consent of the person must be obtained in writing before the carrying out of the examination, after the person has been duly informed of its nature and its purpose.

With a court order (if consent could not be obtained)

This is partially due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by society, rather than biology. French men often circumvent these laws by sending samples of DNA to foreign laboratories, but risk prosecution if caught. The maximum penalty for carrying out secret paternity testing is one year in prison and a €15,000 fine.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_testing#France

Thanks goodness I do not live in that shit hole of a feminized country.

rebuildingMyself · 2015-05-27T06:31:18+00:00

You shouldn't ever tell a woman how much you make anyway. It's none of her fucking business

Triglycerine · 2015-05-27T03:01:34+00:00

What fascinates me about this is how blatantly it underscores the transactional nature of relationships wired into people. Once you get past the spinning wheels what she says essentially amounts to this: "I made a trade, and the product was not as advertised".

Remember: Always know what you're offering. Know your price. And know when to walk away from a deal that's bound to go sour.

thefisherman1961 · 2015-05-27T04:25:18+00:00

Boy, isn't that going to open a can of worms?

I was under the impression he made $24/hr, not $23.99 an hour. I never would have slept with him had I known this. Rape.

_torn · 2015-05-27T06:48:27+00:00

what kind of program is she on? her bicepts are bigger than muh thighs

Ulfrum · 2015-05-27T05:23:05+00:00

I almost want the law to pass so blue pill men by the millions can see just how bad it is when women have any semblance of power.

Maybe untold millions of lawsuits and bankruptcy's will help pop this bubble.

Then again, maybe I'm naive.

Squeezymypenisy · 2015-05-27T04:46:19+00:00

It won't pass a court of appeals or the Supreme Court. This kind of law violates the first amendment and gives too broad a definition to rape. It would be seen as a dangerous precedent to eventually make lying illegal.

Archwinger · 2015-05-27T10:05:21+00:00

I have bad flatulence. If I hold it in when I meet a woman and she goes home with me, I denied her the choice whether or not to consent to sex with a farter.

For the good of women everywhere, I must fart everywhere I go. Constantly. It's the law.

wookieblaster69 · 2015-05-27T05:52:21+00:00

Article summary: land whale gets swindled online by a guy who tells her he is a british secret agent, she believes it and gives him money. She then gets on dateline and NJ assemblyman to introduce that can be used against practically any man that has ever had sex with a woman.

Seriously click the link and look at her. She thinks a British secret service agent fell in love with her, and now you could go to jail because of it.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T03:56:16+00:00

the actor has misrepresented the purpose of the act or has represented he is someone he is not

Only men can be convicted. Oh boy...

SleepNowMyThrowaway · 2015-05-27T06:21:24+00:00

So.much.wrong.

...Absolutely, says Mischele Lewis. The 37-year-old suburban-mom-turned-activist is the inspiration behind a bill in New Jersey...

First of all, GTFO of Jersey; I won't even drive through that fascist shit-hole.

Secondly, a woman with a name spelled Mischele should automatically be nexted.

Mischele, a fat single mom got pumped and dumped and somehow lost 5K, so let's criminalize whatever makes her feelbads?

That BMW was a rental?! RAPE!

This system cannot burn fast enough.

calzenn · 2015-05-27T05:15:16+00:00

Well, I think theres an easy method we could use to make the job a lot better and easier for everyone of course.

Maybe, we could be assigned, oh, I dont know, how about say a star shape with a colour that would be sewn to all our clothes? or maybe even a semi-permanent tattoo?

That way someone could easily determine what we "really" are by a, of course, impartial tribunal with annual reviews... that could asses us guys and weed out those pesky liars and bullshitters...

Black Star: Know liar as to his monthly income or actually rented a car for a date.

Red Star: Usually a low wage employee with only a high school education.

Gold Star: High Income, has a great shoe collection, takes holidays outside of the country and has assets over 200,000

Blue Star: Will pay for all dates, has a mid-size car and some assets.

There surely is a good list of colours and stars that could help defenceless women sort out who is who. We need to make life safe, safe and easy for everyone... everyone being those who are not male, because, hey, thats what society is all about...

FuriousMouse · 2015-05-27T09:13:01+00:00

A man that uses "tricks" to make a woman believe his SMV is higher that it actually is, is no different from a woman using "tricks" to have men believe her SMV is higher than it actually is.

Women judge SMV based on social status but men base it on the looks.

So a man telling a woman that he earns more than he actually does, is like a woman using push bra, lipstick, shaving her legs and armpits or having fake breasts. It is also deception.

deathsnuggle · 2015-05-27T08:20:30+00:00

Holy shit, when landwhales and ham planets write the laws, men are fucked

DRMMR76 · 2015-05-27T09:41:53+00:00

Of course it's a fatty pushing this.

tatebequert · 2015-05-27T07:43:02+00:00

"I couldn't have committed these crimes because I am gender fluid and was a man when it happened, today I am a female victim of male headmate patriarchy!"

rygar_the_red · 2015-05-27T11:05:18+00:00

So wait... that chick paid five thousand dollars to have sex with that guy?

And she isn't being charged with soliciting prostitution?

JamesK1973 · 2015-05-27T04:41:55+00:00

Never moving to New Jersey. Crazy fucks, one and all.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T04:51:52+00:00

It's like women are so helpless they can't be allowed to live. If a woman feeeeeelss wronged in any way, big daddy gov't comes in to save the fucking day. Fucking nanny state if I've ever seen it.

malariasucks · 2015-05-27T10:04:26+00:00

foundation of this bill is a bitter divorced woman:

Lewis.... is recuperating from the shock of discovering that the man she met on an online dating site back in 2013 was a con artist.

oh great, I know this is going to get even worse, she has to be a bit off her rocker... and then....

When she was handing over $5,000 for a phony security clearance, she had no clue that she was just Jordan's latest victim.

so the woman is a dumb ass...

through_a_ways · 2015-05-27T05:36:50+00:00

It already is rape in Israel. Arab had consensual sex with Jewish girl, failed to mention he was Arab and not Jewish.

Arrested.

Although to be realistic, that's probably got a lot more to do with Jews hating Muslims, than with feminism.

rockumsockumrobots · 2015-05-27T06:31:40+00:00

As someone from New Jersey, such a law is not outside the scope of possibility for this state.

Hell, if the state could tax us every time we wiped our asses they would. The only thing more repulsive and infuriating than the smug face on the fat bitch pictured in that article, is the State that is empowering her.

Seriously. Fuck the state of NJ. I can't wait to get out of this shit hole.

Dr_Red_97 · 2015-05-27T07:22:14+00:00

What the fuck is a side jawn?

warcroft · 2015-05-27T11:14:00+00:00

Gee, chicks aren't shallow at all. "You're rich? Here, let me spread my legs for you. What? You lied? You're not rich!? RAPE!"

And its called 'Sexual Assault'? But its only sexual assault AFTER the chick finds out the guy lied about being rich?

Shaft-of-Patriarchy · 2015-05-27T12:36:19+00:00

Am i remembering the story wrong, but was it not Eve who ate the apple?

TheDay1Alpha · 2015-05-27T07:19:40+00:00

So I guess highlights, hair extensions, fake lashes, push up bras, make up, high heels etc are not deception

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T11:43:09+00:00

Isn't it interesting that it's always whales that promote these kind of laws?

GayLubeOil · 2015-05-27T07:12:00+00:00

If Germany would have won none of this would have happened. Im not saying that Germany winning would have been a good thing. Certainly not. But this definitely would not have happened.

OKJaded · 2015-05-27T05:52:00+00:00

Holy shit. Saw the ham beast butter troll headlining the issue...

CMidnight · 2015-05-27T10:35:23+00:00

This would effectively make sex transactional.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T13:47:31+00:00

TL:DR?

This fat fucking ham got duped out of some money because she was so desperate to get laid.

End

notmyusualreddit · 2015-05-27T05:17:36+00:00

How does anyone get convicted of any of this shit? Is someone making written statements somewhere? Or is it just he said she said?

Pretty soon dating will be like talking to the police. Plead the 5th (yes I know this example wasnt in the US).

Or better yet, make your money without women and then just visit se asia, brazil, eastern europe for professionals. This kind of bs is getting scarry and old.

RPaccount1000 · 2015-05-27T05:34:10+00:00

So make-up, push-up, spanx, perfume, etc, should then also be rape...so 99% of women are rapists.

StrikePrice · 2015-05-27T06:01:51+00:00

The bill defines it as "an act of sexual penetration to which a person has given consent because the actor has misrepresented the purpose of the act or has represented he is someone he is not."

I like how "he" is built right into the language of the law. Classy.

"The purpose of this act is to spooge on your tits and I am indeed Superman!" RAPE!!

DalekJay · 2015-05-27T07:05:01+00:00

Lewis. The 37-year-old suburban-mom-turned-activist is the inspiration behind a bill in New Jersey that would make sexual assault by deception a crime.

She is Lucky that she ia having sex... So why everytime I see this kind of news it's a fat SJW with a lot of free time ?

CowardlyPetrov · 2015-05-27T10:42:38+00:00

I can't help but notice the obvious. It is very clear in the language that this is about men lying to women for sex, but doesn't cover women lying to men for sex, money, marriage, children, rape, status, work, etc.

tedcase · 2015-05-27T12:05:26+00:00

Does "I'm on the pill" count as rape now too?

the_red_scimitar · 2015-05-27T13:04:49+00:00

So, this would acknowledge that women seek wealth as a sexual strategy.

I suggest that padded bras, all forms of cosmetic surgery, all forms of hair augmentation, including coloring, extensions, etc., makeup, telling an age younger than her actual one, any form of "tummy" control, and pretty much anything a woman does that presents herself as better looking than without these accessories, would all be forms of rape.

MattyAnon · 2015-05-27T13:27:22+00:00

Holy shit I'd lie just to get out of sex with her. That's still legal right?

exit_sandman · 2015-05-27T13:56:19+00:00

But if rape is sex without the victim's consent - as many courts, state statutes and scholars say it is - then sex-by-deception ought to be rape, because as courts have held for a hundred years in virtually every area of the law outside of rape, a consent procured through deception is no consent at all."

Wait a second. So you mean that if you consent to marrying a woman (by saying "yes I do") only because she fraudulently made you believe that she had been a decent girl in the past, that marriage is null and void?

Guys, you might be onto something here.

InscrutablePUA · 2015-05-27T14:42:16+00:00

The comments section is great. Top comment currently:

"Any women who lie about being on birth control and gets pregnant should be charged with the same."

Triglycerine · 2015-05-27T14:43:30+00:00

If this shit ever exists in the US I am going to pack things up and go live a cold solo life in the wilderness of Alaska. I'd rather get fucked by a bear than by uncle sam.

RS73 · 2015-05-27T22:00:38+00:00

California's about to pass a law where a woman can ask guys at her job how much money they make and, if she doesn't like the answer, the government can step in and force the employer to raise the woman's salary. I just heard the author of the bill, Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson (D-Santa Barbara), talking about it on the radio. Pay in California will no longer be at the discretion of the employer but instead it will be as ordered by the government.

https://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=153490

"It would prohibit retaliation against employees who discuss or ask about pay at work. It would allow employees to challenge pay discrimination based on wages paid to other workers at different worksites of the same employer. For example, a female grocery store clerk who works at a store could challenge higher wages being made by male grocery store clerks at a store owned by the same employer just a few miles away. Employees could challenge pay discrimination based on wages paid to those doing substantially similar work. For example, a female housekeeper who cleans rooms in a hotel could challenge the higher wages being paid to a male janitor who cleans the lobby and banquet halls. It would require employers to show that differences in wages are due to factors other than gender, that the factor is job-related and reasonable, and that these factors - rather than discrimination - account for the difference in pay. For example, if a male chef is making more money than a female chef because he works weekend shifts, the employer would have to show that the weekend shifts are busier and require more work and account for the difference in wages. In addition, the employer would have to prove that the weekend shift position was open to all chefs, and that the employer hired the male chef because he was the most qualified or willing to work the shifts. In 2013, a woman in California working full-time made a median 84 cents to every dollar a man earned, according to the Equal Rights Advocates, co- sponsors of the bill. The gap is significantly greater for women of color. Latinas in California make only 44 cents for every dollar a white man makes, the most significant Latina wage gap in the nation. African-American women are only paid 64 cents on the dollar. As a group, women who are employed full-time in California lose approximately $33.6 billion every year due to the wage gap."

mbooter · 2015-05-28T00:44:15+00:00

If you find out your wife lied about her sexual history then the marriage should be considered fraud.

If her partner count is 'just a number' then my salary is also 'just a number'

JanLul · 2015-05-27T09:40:35+00:00

She was defrauded (because she has no intellect) which already is illegal.

live52 · 2015-05-27T10:45:32+00:00

The whole article assumes a man lying to or duping a woman. Surely the same happens when men are the dupee and women the duper. Only a guess but I'd expect the statistics to be pretty even male/female, but the the context would be different. That is, a woman probably wouldn't show her potential victim a photo of her house. I'll leave it to you to imagine analogous situations where the man was duped. I'm upvoting the OP so this gets needed attention, not because I agree with the proposed legislation.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T11:42:21+00:00

How I Met Your Mother really isn't gonna stand the test of time now. Gonna have a very rapey feel about it.

Mouthpiece · 2015-05-27T12:11:03+00:00

But think of this: a woman has to publicly admit that she only slept with a guy because she thought he had money.

That may be true, but almost no one would ever admit she's a whore.

TerriChris · 2015-05-27T12:14:31+00:00

Just as long as the courts still use her word against the guy's word as evidence /s

Redpillc0re · 2015-05-27T14:38:28+00:00

"Women will have sex if you show them you have a big home" is surely no less morally contemptible. I want a law that compensates me with huge stacks of $$$s when i discover she wasn't into my beautiful soul, but just wanted my money.

It's unfortunate that this law will not pass; it would be hilarious to every person who wears makeup.

THCanadian17 · 2015-05-27T16:16:34+00:00

Yet it is okay for women to lie about how many dicks have been in their mouths

alritealritealrite · 2015-05-27T17:29:51+00:00

Well then what the fuck is makeup? Is makeup not a lie?

wile_E_coyote_genius · 2015-05-27T17:37:03+00:00

Isn't wearing make-up deceptive?

CoolRunner · 2015-05-27T04:55:53+00:00

1st amendment violation, won't make it to a vote I bet.

Kalepsis · 2015-05-27T07:19:12+00:00

Illegal to lie to your lover...

So it's going to be illegal to wear make-up, push-up bras, high heels, corsets, dye your hair, get a boob job, put on perfume, visit a tanning salon, etc., etc., etc.

Can't wait to flip that stupid idea on its face.

Reddit_SuckLeperCock · 2015-05-27T11:01:47+00:00

Holy shit... it's classified as sexual assault even though the bitch was willing and consensual at the time? Lol. I can see that law working out well for everyone. Hate to say it 'Murica but that shit is a fucking joke.

bassivemalls · 2015-05-27T11:04:46+00:00

This would never actually be a law. This is just ridiculous. This has to be a parody of a proposal that SJWs would put forward, not an actual thing. If this does gain traction and becomes a law, I'm leaving the country--literally and actually leaving the country. This can't be real.

ben0wn4g3 · 2015-05-27T11:40:52+00:00

THE SIZE OF HER ARM!!!

So is this a man only crime...

themanbat · 2015-05-27T11:41:39+00:00

High heels. Makeup. Push up bras. Spanx. Women are in disguise practically all day every day to exaggerate physical assets. But if a guy exaggerated his income? That's dishonest.

Lashlarue123 · 2015-05-27T12:01:34+00:00

"It's wrong every single time, and in a lot of cases illegal what they're doing. In some way, sometime, it's going to catch up." You got that right fatso, but youve got the wrong gender in mind - this sub is now over 100k with less men than ever getting married.

muddynips · 2015-05-27T13:01:45+00:00

It's kind of shocking how readily the article admits that women will sleep with somebody for material gain.

Oh I lied about having a beach home? Well, you slept with me to get to my beach home, so who's more in the wrong here? And on that note, how many beach homes do you own?

Candman91 · 2015-05-27T13:27:01+00:00

So, if I girl "requires" me to take her to dinner before I ever think about getting into her pants, would that qualify. She's scamming me out of a Chipotle burrito, just so I could even have to privilege to initiate.

scarletspider3 · 2015-05-27T13:43:07+00:00

It was only a matter of time before feminists pushed for a legally backed insurance policy for their hypergamy. This is why we need MRA.

oldkingkole · 2015-05-27T13:53:45+00:00

Looking overseas for a LTR is looking better and better. To hell with Western women.

windowstapedshut · 2015-05-27T14:03:11+00:00

"...back when she was falling madly in love, Lewis, a labor and delivery nurse, knew nothing about Jordan's nefarious ways. When she was handing over $5,000 for a phony security clearance, she had no clue that she was just Jordan's

~~Woman~~ Moron scorned.

This whole narrative of withdrawing consent after the fact makes my skill crawl.

tpsmc · 2015-05-27T14:08:30+00:00

Red Pill Trolling level 11!

blue_27 · 2015-05-27T14:15:57+00:00

What about high heels, pushup bras, (the corset that this bitch obviously needs), colored contact lenses, makeup as a whole, or altering their hair color? Does all of that shit count as deception? I mean, fuck ... women should be required to carry photographic evidence of how big their mother is, so that we know what we're getting into.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T14:17:23+00:00

It won't pass and if it does it won't be enforceable.

For one thing it will work both ways. Like another poster said if they lie about being on the pill then that would be rape because that is lying to get sex.

And they have to prove you lied. At that point it's her word against yours. She says you claimed to make X amount of money. You say you never even had such a conversation.

That said, if you are doing it right you aren't giving her any specifics about yourself anyway. By the time she knows anything about you she's probably already slept with you.

The only guys this will affect are BP dudes who are lying to get sex.

If a RP shows up in court looking sharp with muscles and good looks and oozing confidence and a frumpy bitch like the one pictured on this article shows up who do you think they will believe?

They'll think she jumped your bone and when you didn't want to take it further she started making shit up.

The only thing this law will do is cost the government even more money and put more men in prison thus reducing tax revenue.

I'm not worried about this at all.

cariboo_j · 2015-05-27T14:23:03+00:00

Next law: men are required to disclose a copy of their pay stubs, bank records and last years tax returns before engaging in sex.

But don't get the wrong idea: women never get with men for their money... They just want what's best for the children. They need a good provider, you see.

trp_que · 2015-05-27T15:27:43+00:00

This article is over the top and stupid. No one actually subscribes to the idea she is proposing. I didn't see a single comment supporting this from both men or women. Just ignore.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2015-05-27T15:58:56+00:00

Egad. How did the guy lie to that land whale? Did he tell her she was pretty?

screamingATtrees · 2015-05-27T16:26:43+00:00

Wasn't there a Japanese man who sued his wife because their kids turned out ugly because she had plastic surgery and never told him?

Noctis_Cloud · 2015-05-27T16:39:10+00:00

No man would have to lie to that desperate ham-planet of a woman.

What a joke.

thenarrrowpath · 2015-05-27T16:43:06+00:00

The beauty of this law is that women who lie about anything will be charged with rape as well. The author clearly dodges that idea by only pointing out examples of men lying. Its a one sided article.

theBergmeister · 2015-05-27T16:51:57+00:00

Ultimately, having a penis is rape in the minds of these people.

Lorska · 2015-05-27T16:55:21+00:00

"Whether it's as simple as . . . they slip off their wedding ring and then they engage in a relationship with someone, but the man or woman has no idea that the person they are with is married,"

This is why a law like this won't happen. Married women cheat at a rate of almost twice as much as men on Tinder.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T18:27:01+00:00

Barney Stinson will be pissed

theproudbanana · 2015-05-27T19:33:22+00:00

Soon to be ParISIS. First the anti dna test, now this. no wonder ISIS has such an easy time there.

Transmigratory · 2015-05-27T22:40:17+00:00

You can use this to deter women who lie to you too.

Also, another angle: the degenerates who have so little SMV that they have to lie are effectively eliminated in the competition.

Unless you're a PUA type whose SMV entirely depends on the words he says and the presence his words creates (without any backing), then this law shouldn't worry you. Despite the hysteria over it. Obviously not promising anything (which has the effect on you being mysterious) will help you too; law is about word play.

Another thing: lie about your earnings; say you earn less. DAs will be hard pressed to sell to the jury that a woman has a right to sue a man for rape because he said he earns less than she expected him to earn.

Of course some of you here have a confirmation bias as far as pussy pass goes. (Not to say it doesn't exist.) So for those lot, this message will go unheard.

NotUpToAnythingGood · 2015-05-28T00:40:34+00:00

That law as proposed (as indicated in the article) violates the 14th amendment's equal protection clause.

I would think it's a potential payday for any guy prosecuted under it and gets a decent constitutional lawyer.

ChocolateHead · 2015-05-27T14:48:45+00:00

Watch out, lovers who lie! Sexual assault by deception could become a criminal offense

Jesus Fucking Christ. Has this place become the National Enquirer? There is absolutely 0 chance that such a law could ever get passed. This is just the media fearmongering and you fucking idiots believed it.

JohnGalt316 · 2015-05-27T22:29:25+00:00

if you tell a girl you are a doctor and she assumes you make 180k but you only make 60k/year, are you a rapist?

Title	Telling A Woman You Earn More Than You Do Could Soon Be Rape (These wheels must power all of Paris)
Author	Triglycerine
Upvotes	497
Comments	225
Date	May 27, 2015 2:55 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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