My teacher believes in the wage gap.

GalileosTele · 2020-09-28T18:34:59+00:00

The wage gap can be debunked by the very reports cited as evidence of its existence. As they explicitly state that the 78 cent on the dollar (or similar figure) is not comparing men and women with the same jobs, but the ratio of the median incomes of all women to all men. They explicitly state they don’t account for differences in jobs, hours worked, education, age, or anything else. All one has to do is actually read what the report says, and know what a median is.

literacy + 7th grade math is enough to debunk the wage gap

EvilLothar · 2020-09-28T18:32:22+00:00

He already thinks of you poorly due to you questioning his "fact based opinion"....

You are not going to convince him, all you can do is try to convince your classmates.

TonDonberry · 2020-09-28T19:02:14+00:00

If the wage gap was real, wouldn't all employer's employ only women because they can be paid less?

Lady_Catfish · 2020-09-28T20:38:28+00:00

Don't debate your teachers like that. They can punish you later via your test scores.
Learn the lesson I learned long back: Put on the test papers and say in class what they want to hear.

Score well, get out of school/college and proceed to do well in life.

fatbody-tacticool · 2020-09-28T22:11:31+00:00

Instead of debating, if he allows it, ask open ended questions. “What study has stated they only used gender as their data source?”

JustJamie- · 2020-09-28T20:51:59+00:00

Ask him if he makes more than the female teachers. If he says yes tall him it's not fair and he should do something about it. If he says no then tell him there isn't a wage gap. Do the research and turn in a paper. The wage gap is caused by women chosing to stay home with their children not by sexism.

MasterLeonSeb · 2020-09-28T23:24:04+00:00

When you start the debate, start with

do you consider yourself open minded?

No one says no. Once he says yes the follow up question would be

Are u then open to change your posture on the wage gap?

If he says no, you are dealing with a moron who likes to think hes smart but is dumb and close-minded. and save yourself the effort and time. If you get a double yes you can proceed.

Jordan peterson has a great dive about it on youtube. Check it out

VinnyBoy45 · 2020-09-29T04:52:01+00:00

The wage gap does exist. The thing is that people dont like to discuss "why" it exist and also what it actually represents. The myth part of it is that women earns less than men for the same job.

About your teacher. Just nod and say yes. You dont have to listen to everything they say.

MadGeller · 2020-09-28T22:32:32+00:00

Ask him if work that is dangerous and physically demanding should be paid more. And tell him that men do more of those jobs.

AkwardBee55 · 2020-09-28T21:16:35+00:00

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dontpet · 2020-09-28T21:56:33+00:00

Do pin down what he means by that first. Then you have something to work with.

OneTonB3K413 · 2020-09-28T23:29:11+00:00

If its cheaper to employ women, why are men not being replaced by the cheaper option?

mattcojo · 2020-09-28T23:24:57+00:00

Just ask him

“Isn’t it already illegal according to the 1963 equal pay act?”

OR (do NOT say both)

“If companies can legally pay women less, why don’t they only hire women?”

That’s all you have to say. Don’t say anymore than that.

ModsAreHellaCucks · 2020-09-28T19:54:09+00:00

" I don’t want him to think of me poorly. "

Why give a rats ass what he thinks of you? As long as he marks your work fairly, that's all that matters.

biff64gc · 2020-09-28T23:47:29+00:00

One thing might be to clarify if he means the pay gap or earnings gap. There is an earning gap between the genders over the life of their careers which is due to personal choices like hours worked, having a baby, career field, and to a minor degree, sexism.

But a gap where a male and female of equal experience in the same position in the same company is non existent, which you can just email him a couple of links that account for personal choices.

autoeroticassfxation · 2020-09-29T03:56:12+00:00

You could ask him if women are cheaper to hire for the same work, why don't employers hire the women then? Most companies are simply hungry for the best bang for their buck.

2020-09-29T03:11:07+00:00

Oh... I get the impression you’re in high school, right?

Dude, you’re not going to do yourself any favors speaking up about these sorts of truths. You’ll change no minds and ostracize yourself. Your teacher will see you as a “far right extremist” or something like that. You’ll make yourself a target. Trust me: don’t bother trying, it will not go well and you’ll feel really crazy because you’re showing them truth, with data that backs it up, and they won’t believe you, and will mock you for it.

This info isn’t what people want to believe. It’s not a popular opinion.

VileInsidias · 2020-09-29T06:57:01+00:00

Tell him if the wage gap was real he wouldn’t have a job because everyone would just hire women because they could pay them less.

What does he teach?

Eastuss · 2020-09-29T08:31:43+00:00

Introduce him to the work length gap, the commute gap, the tax gap, the welfare gap, the life expectancy gap, and the retirement age gap. :)

Wage gap isn't even a feminist argument anymore, they adapted their argument to take into account this societal phenomenon where women don't work, and they drew their own conclusions different from ours. But it's funny when you have a feminist perspective more up to date as a MRA than people who self proclaim themselves feminists.

HitlerHistorian · 2020-09-28T23:30:31+00:00

Could also bring up the Uber study about the basically gender blind taxi app that resulted in men earning more because they drove faster and worked at better times of the day to make more https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2018/09/23/gender-paygap-uber-case-study/amp/

Brokepapa321 · 2020-09-28T22:45:49+00:00

Switch to online schooling...he's not teaching, he's indoctrinating.

SuperiorFarter · 2020-09-29T05:16:18+00:00

If he questions the feminist narrative he will be fired.

turbulance4 · 2020-09-29T05:24:31+00:00

but he ultimately told me to go do research

Do that. Seriously. Quote the studies that led to that myth back to him.

HenryCGk · 2020-09-29T05:28:28+00:00

Is he on payscale in your state. Ask him if he is payed more than his female colleagues, oh and if so what he does about it.

Maybe there will more factors wich apply in his case.

Abe_Vigoda · 2020-09-29T06:31:31+00:00

Instead of attacking his arguments point out that the real wage gap is between the upper & lower class.

Study wealth inequality and the gap between worker's pay compared to executive pay.

There's only a marginal gap between men & women in blue & grey collar jobs that fluxuates and varies between industries. Women might make more in some industries while men make more in others.

The one thing that's consistent is that rich people have been getting a lot more than everyone else.

Schools are owned by the establishment class. That's why they teach the gender gap and other forms of gender/race warfare is because it deflects from real financial inequality. Women aren't the enemy, they're supposed to be allies.

Guessman34 · 2020-09-29T06:39:55+00:00

Whether you’re in high school or university, just remember that it’s ultimately better to not sabotage your grades just to make the argument.

ElegantDecline · 2020-09-29T10:18:24+00:00

dude you're fixin to get detention or something if you challenge the common narrative too much. This is more about politics than about facts. The people who choose your material and teaching style are 90% women. you can't win this one.

If you do challenge your teacher, make sure it's privately after class. don't do it in front of class.

C2074579 · 2020-09-29T01:00:09+00:00

Lol "Go do research!". If he actually did research himself he'd see how ludicrous it is to suggest that.

Yeah, I'd recommend not debating him. Or if you do, don't do it in front of others. He'll resent you for 'schooling' him in his domain.

Aarya1324 · 2020-09-28T21:56:29+00:00

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rabel111 · 2020-09-28T22:21:40+00:00

Maybe you should be questioning some of the other self evident truths this teacher has included in your education. If he is willing to teach ideology rather than evidence based truth for the wgae gap, he has most likely done this for other issues.

sebastianss_ · 2020-09-28T22:33:44+00:00

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thefudmaster · 2020-09-28T23:33:16+00:00

Tell him to look up some Dr. Thomas Sowell.

richasalannister · 2020-09-28T23:33:50+00:00

Probably not worth debating.

But you could mention the irrelevance of it on the individual level.

I mean, men are taller than women, but I dated a girl that was 8" taller than me. So even if it were true it doesn't effect your life

AngryIPScanner · 2020-09-28T23:50:26+00:00

Yea, I had a male supervisor at an old job who thinks there's a gap, too. His evidence was that he "knows many women who got paid less".

Reptilian_Brain_420 · 2020-09-28T23:52:05+00:00

Ask him how much more he is paid than female teachers.

Riptide360 · 2020-09-28T23:58:23+00:00

Stop worrying about what people think. Argue the points using logic and be open to changing your mind when shown compelling evidence. When the student passes the master you will both have learned something.

Subscribe2MevansYT · 2020-09-29T00:06:51+00:00

I saw a post (even though it was a meme) that raised a good point - if women were really paid less, than almost all of the workforce would be female to reduce costs.

BurningOrangeHeaven · 2020-09-29T00:32:01+00:00

I saw this link on here and the intro says it all - even if someone is brainless enough to believe in the wage gap.

Link

The foreword from the department of labor. Someone else linked this in a different thread here.

You should also try asking the teacher why anyone looking to make money would hire a man if they could get a woman with the same experience and qualifications to do the job for far less - is he really dumb enough to think people like to be sexist more than they like money?

majorleaguescunt777 · 2020-09-29T00:38:19+00:00

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FlyingSeaMan509 · 2020-09-29T01:00:04+00:00

Ask them why men are even hired then.

Pintayus · 2020-09-29T01:02:16+00:00

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aehei · 2020-09-29T01:02:38+00:00

Hey man, you should be proud for wanting to stand up for the truth, and being willing to discuss it. A lot of people are bringing up the consequences of speaking up, and I think it would help us all to know what area your school is in.

If the teacher's bias is real right now and it gets worse you can threaten lawsuits or appeal to higher authorities who will help ensure fair treatment.

mikesteane · 2020-09-29T01:08:52+00:00

No need to debate it. Just ask him why anyone would ever employ a man if he could get the same work done for 70% of the cost. If he avoids the question ask it again and if he avoids it a second time ask him a third time starting with "I ask you one more time..."

If he comes up with a clever creative explanation, the way creationists deal with the conflict of their views with verifiable facts, just laugh.

Stonercat123yt · 2020-09-29T01:13:41+00:00

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-WolfChop- · 2020-09-29T01:16:55+00:00

Good for you trying to educate him! I can’t really offer advice other than finding and showing him the multiple studies debunking it. Though remember this guy might be too far gone to change opinions.

psymaniax · 2020-09-29T01:30:01+00:00

Thomas sowell videos can be used to debunk the wage gap. He explains everything academically.

brahdz · 2020-09-29T01:39:21+00:00

The simplest answer to why the wage gap does not and cannot exist is capitalism. If a business owner could pay an an equally competent woman less than a man to do the same job they would do it every time. Men wouldn't be employable. The bottom line wins every time.

Ryoohki4 · 2020-09-29T02:00:16+00:00

You'll never get to admit he's wrong just let it go and move on with your life.

2020-09-29T02:03:14+00:00

It’s being drilled into everyone’s heads I guess. They’re all part of the whole system and in general most don’t question it very deeply.

corniergangrene · 2020-09-29T02:06:23+00:00

I can imagine the majority of women hating you in the class lol

kantut · 2020-09-29T02:33:26+00:00

Just tell him "I understand now why there are so many more women teachers than there are men. They're cheaper to employ!"

_Byorn_ · 2020-09-29T02:35:14+00:00

While I’m glad you were able to stick to your beliefs, don’t be afraid to challenge them. I just graduated high school and you bet your rear end I challenged some of them.

In 10th grade, my english went on praising ANTIFA which I fought a little but kept quite. She then went on saying how we shouldn’t use “the” to say “the African Americans” cause it somehow separates them (although I’m not apart of their group as I’m white). I then starting calling her out for all her bs. She tried saying stuff like “Let’s use the word stupid as an example. I hate it and I dont want others to use it” and so I hit her with “Well, what if I love that word? What if it’s my favorite one in all existence? Should I be forced to change myself cause you don’t want to change?” We went back and forth and other kids joined in a little too but class ended lmao. I transferred to a higher level though right after cause I hated her (she also tried refusing to sign the papers for me to switch so I handed them in without her)

sskkarz · 2020-09-29T03:27:46+00:00

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2020-09-29T03:55:55+00:00

We dissected the wage gap in college. Most of the gap can be accounted for but there is still a few percentages that can't. It's not as bad as they say but it does exist.

PinkSockEater · 2020-09-29T04:13:24+00:00

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pushing-rope · 2020-09-29T05:13:59+00:00

You'll need to know what defines his Wage Gap and what the numbers are. Is he talking about what a M and W are paid for the same job, or what an average M earns vs a W.

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MyUserNameIsSkave · 2020-09-29T05:36:17+00:00

All my class believe in it...

Volkrisse · 2020-09-29T05:39:16+00:00

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juliodepq · 2020-09-29T06:04:41+00:00

the wage gap is misinterpreted from my point of view. It shows the inequality between men and women in term of accessibility, not wages

spicyboi2007 · 2020-09-29T06:14:14+00:00

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Svenskbtch · 2020-09-29T06:16:01+00:00

The wage gap is statistically true, of course. It is the assumption that most or even part of it is due to wage discrimination that is not. So saying the wage gap does or does not exist is like saying you either believe in global warming or you do not: it misses the point.

Sorry for being a stickler - but making clearer distinctions might help. Besides, noting this does not per se undermine the case for discrimination, but you would have to look for it elsewhere, such as in promotions.

ThePiachu · 2020-09-29T06:30:45+00:00

If wage gap really existed, hyper-greedy companies would be 100% female. Every grocery store, every airline, everything with razor-thin wires would replace all their male staff with females if they could pay them less for the same work...

ChrisishereO2 · 2020-09-29T06:35:10+00:00

Don't rant that someone has a different opinion to you. Prove him wrong.

Dant2k · 2020-09-29T06:45:44+00:00

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flap_py1 · 2020-09-29T06:49:08+00:00

2020-09-29T06:56:08+00:00

Your teacher is a twit!

lukehart69420 · 2020-09-29T07:02:32+00:00

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Finessetheboy · 2020-09-29T07:44:22+00:00

Mine does to, but shes a great teacher nontheless so im just gonna roll with it for this year

ImStingrayy · 2020-09-29T07:48:52+00:00

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lutkul · 2020-09-29T07:52:59+00:00

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the_turt · 2020-09-29T08:09:45+00:00

ok, if he does not listen to research, then tell him this.

you have two workers, a construction worker, and an office worker. the office worker is female and the construction worker is male. they both make 40000 a year for example. the construction worker is going to have back problems for the rest of his life. + 5000. the only thing protecting him from death is a hat and a prayer. + 10000 so on.

now the office worker is in hr office. no risk, no extra payment. and then she gets pregnant. off course yo know she will be gone for a month or more, but you cant fire her. so she goes on paid leave for a few months. - 5000 or whatever. so know the paychecks are

male: 55 k

female: 35 k

there is a gap. why, because of a bunch of reasons your teacher ignored. but this needs no evidence. the teacher cant ignore this.

2020-09-29T09:20:02+00:00

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captainfuuu · 2020-09-29T10:20:53+00:00

Ah yes, finding the astrix in one study, assuming it cancels out the wage gap completely and never looking at any other studies again. There are literally studies that compare the hourly income of men and women with the same jobs, in the same company, finding a wage gap. Just because 1 Studie you found openly acknowledgedes it generalized data, does not mean the scientific concences of the topic, is false. You guys are the exact same as the people that wear an aluminum hat, believing in a flat earth or denie climate change. Your teacher is wrong though, they should teach you how to do research, but I assume they get paid way too little to deal with your Karen ideas.

DelightfulFronds · 2020-09-29T11:05:55+00:00

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." It's up to the teacher to provide proof, not you. "Everyone knows that..." is not proof.

The 'big lie' in the gender pay-gap debate is when the phrase 'for the same work' is applied (either directly or implicitly). The gender pay gap always disappears as soon as you start controlling for things like hours worked, role, years of experience. The more you control for the smaller it gets. Women do not get paid significantly less for the same work and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that they do. Again it is not up to you to prove this.

The gap they are talking about with the stupid ~30% 'shock number' is basically aggregate earnings of women vs men, ignoring every single other statistic. Of course women are going to earn less if they work fewer hours. How is that discrimination?

The interesting thing about the 'shock number' is that it basically doesn't exist until women are around ~30 years old. The wage gap is essentially nothing more than the impact of women having children. If they have to leave their full time career and go part time of course their career will suffer. It will impact future earnings.

The solution to this, of course, is improved paternity leave and fathers rights. If the women gets 9+ months leave and position as default carer to the fathers 6 weeks then what do they think will happen? Of course the truth behind it is every sensible person would rather spend time raising their own children than working a souless office job and the entire purpose of the family unit is to deal with this situation.

So we know what the wage gap is, why it is caused, and how to fix it. Of course it's such a wonderful shock value stat to wave around, sneaking in 'for the same work' as they love to do and the impact of fixing it (no mother, you must work 60 hour weeks while dad does the childcare) is so unpalatable there is absolutely no incentive to actually fix it.

All this info is in the official government stats if you are willing to go digging. It's often heavily obfuscated and editorialised but it's there.

inferii · 2020-09-29T11:07:30+00:00

I might get downvoted to hell for this but I think quite a few people have a misunderstanding of why many people perceive there to be a wage gap. Women don’t earn less than men making the same job - that’s illegal (at least in developed countries in this day and age). They earn they earn the same amount (and therefore no, it’s not cheaper to employ women as opposed to men). But women, on average, earn less than men as many women feel as though they should (and are sometimes pushed into) jobs that have been historically deemed appropriate for women, that being teachers, nurses etc which coincidentally are lower paying jobs. Simultaneously men may feel pressured into doing more esteemed jobs that have been historically deemed appropriate for a sole male provider. Therefore, gender stereotypes are harmful to both genders and help create a wage gap in which the average woman earns less than the average man.

2020-09-29T11:46:18+00:00

What good will proving him wrong do? If you do try there's a high chance that he wont accept your arguments and will still say you are wrong. Just let it go

Yoshiezibz · 2020-09-29T11:56:08+00:00

I have tried to talk with people about this. I'm complete civil and calm but they usually get irate or ignore my points. I have come to the conclusion that it's almost impossible to get someone to change their beliefs. The only thing when changes someone's beliefs is if they do their own research and self reflection

Bace834 · 2020-09-29T11:59:27+00:00

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2020-09-29T13:29:56+00:00

Always stand your ground, his opinion of your argument is irrelevant if you know the facts.

Pintayus · 2020-09-29T17:49:38+00:00

did you get out alive?

thejordanhall · 2020-09-30T02:45:58+00:00

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69Human69 · 2020-09-30T05:24:05+00:00

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Bace834 · 2020-09-30T12:03:34+00:00

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Long-Chair-7825 · 2020-09-30T22:29:19+00:00

Well, that was anti climactic.

Tbone139 · 2020-10-01T01:15:15+00:00

Thank you for updating, I think him admitting it's 98 cents is a huge concession and other students will realize he's picking nits if he keeps at it.

DevilDrives · 2020-09-29T02:16:52+00:00

The gap exists. However, the reasons for it are not because of gender-itself. The reasons are based on the actions of people.

Premise one: Hard work pays more Premise two: More men work harder jobs than women Conclusion: More men are paid more than women for working harder jobs.

The gap is logic-not patriarchical oppression. Acknowledge the gap. Embrace equal pay for equal work. If they want equal pay, work harder.

gbreb · 2020-09-28T21:10:59+00:00

I view it as equal work for equal pay. Are the men on average doing more on the job or vice versa? You didn't give us his take on it or yours. What is your point?

kangaroo312 · 2020-09-28T21:24:56+00:00

Ya the “78 cents to a dollar” note is better described as an “earnings gap”-not a wage gap. It doesn’t account for different careers/jobs.

When looking at the same jobs out of college, men and women earn basically the same (no gap).

When comparing earnings in the same jobs, most of the earnings gap in the US is not attributed to gender, but rather motherhood. There is a huge gap between earnings of fathers compared to mothers in similar fields. And while lots of people point to choice (like women are choosing to be home with kids - ie work less hours or less demanding roles or whatever)...If we stick with the idea that it’s due to personal choice ... we tend to get to the question-why aren’t women choosing higher earning roles?

The other side of that coin is- why aren’t fathers choosing more time at home or with their children? Are we not valuing fatherhood as much as motherhood? That could be an interesting question to pose to the teacher.

Throwing in a plug for Dr. Warren Farrell’s book “The Boy Crisis” which delves into the crisis of lack of support for fathers and the gaps and challenges fathers face in the US.

GoldMembership4715 · 2020-09-28T22:23:43+00:00

He’s a retard

EverydayEverynight01 · 2020-09-28T22:51:06+00:00

Personally I would just nod my head, hold my nose, and put on the homework or test it whatever what he (that’s the funniest part xD) wants to hear. Don’t screw up your grades to own the teacher.

EspWaddleDee · 2020-09-28T23:03:48+00:00

As much as you want to, I don’t think you should try and debate your teachers unless you know that they are open minded and looking for discussion. Angering your teachers could lower your grades in that class, and you may even be labeled as a “Sexist” and get scrutinized in your school. Just get through it and you’ll be alright.

EverydayEverynight01 · 2020-09-28T23:30:35+00:00

Listen kid, don't bother debating with your teachers about who's right or wrong. Ignore them. If he really does believe in the gender pay gap and he's teaching it, doesn't that mean he did some research? But if he did do a thorough enough research why does he still think it's real? If he doesn't bother about facts that he doesn't like he won't give a damn about you. Worry about passing his class with a decent grade. He won't believe you so why bother.

flowerpower2112 · 2020-09-28T23:32:51+00:00

This is something where there isn’t a simple answer. It’s all about the details. When you get down to it, it’s about discrimination which is fucking rampant - and it’s in all these different directions at once... so the “wage gap” is at the same time a cause and an effect, while being both true and false on its face. This is probably too deep for reddit and y’all will hate but whatever

petrol_sexual · 2020-09-29T00:05:58+00:00

A classroom isn't a democracy, and it's not a debate. It doesn't matter how wrong you're teacher is, they are the dictator and you're just there to regurgitate what they say and their opinions. You're only going to frustrate and alienate yourself by attempting this.

SirBlankFace · 2020-09-29T00:40:49+00:00

Dude, don't go picking fights with the people who can influence the trajectory of your entire future. Choose your battles wisely. You're less likely to actually change his mind and more likely to paint a big target on your back because this teacher of yours is an ideologue. If you see a sudden dip in your grades, despite being on track, don't assume why because you already know. There's a time and place for everything, don't let this be the hill you die on.

WhispyDespairDonut · 2020-09-29T00:46:48+00:00

This reminds me of the time my sister had a teacher dock points off of her lab report because she called the rat she disected male despite it visibly having a penis and the provider literally labeling the rat male.

Ello-Asty · 2020-09-29T01:12:35+00:00

I believed that there was no wage gap for the longest time. I still believe that to be the case most of the time. My wife got a job for a builder as the financial controller. Guys who are much lower ranking than her treat her like a secretary. The owner had to reduce pay during this covid-19 recession. Her and the only other two female employees took a 25% cut but the male project managers took a 10% cut. The women get 1 week total vacation and sick time while all the men get 2 weeks. So, it does exist in small business and private business. I have always worked for large corporations where the pay schedule is fixed for all and never witnessed it there.

tsawsum1 · 2020-09-29T01:23:03+00:00

The wage gap, for certain careers and under certain bosses is legit. I had a great professor in high school who literally did not get paid as much as her husband (who joined at the same time and taught the same number of classes), even tho she had a PHD. It’s not as bad as people say but it is still important to be mindful and to work for equality of opportunity.

HmNeely · 2020-09-29T13:21:40+00:00

This is crazy. Why is it so hard to believe in a gender pay gap. So it might not be as straightforward as some feminists may have you believe but that doesn't mean it doesn't currently still exist.

Men are underrepresented in some industries. Also in other industries women are underrepresented. That's ok to state. Things are moving forward with this. Men often work more hours than women. There are many factors to this both good and bad to both men and women. Man I'm more likely to be promoted higher than women. Again a complicated factor, with prayers and cons with both genders. There is so much to consider in this subject. But I don't see a problem with admitting there is a gender pay gap because there is. There are so many legitimate reasons why there would be. And that doesn't have to be a problem.

Maybe before arguing with your teacher, listen. Listen to the facts. Look around you. Do your own research. Instead of being offended by the gender pay gap try and listen and understand why. Why it exists. What it really is, Not what people say it is. What is good about it and not so good about it. And what should change for equality and what needs to stay the same.

It's ok that the 2 genders are different. Value the differences between us.

greasygut69 · 2020-09-29T02:41:05+00:00

The wage gap exists. There is no debating that. But it doesn’t mean shit about inequality, just because it’s there doesn’t mean it’s bad. To say it doesn’t exist is foolish, however to say that it’s an unnecessary statistic that doesn’t look at other factors is the right thing to say.

laptopdragon · 2020-09-28T23:33:28+00:00

for ever dollar a man makes, 96% of it goes to wahmyn, rent, bills, food, entertainment, and everything else.

for every dollar a wahmyn makes, 98% of it is all hers and never spent on others.

2020-09-28T23:34:11+00:00

Just ask how do you compare 73 genders, not only 2.

donger_spanan · 2020-12-09T18:53:48+00:00

is the pay gap real?

DieselDan88 · 2020-09-29T01:44:34+00:00

This is why she will always psychologically hold herself back ... And blame men for it. She will have a less happy and prosperous life because of this. If she cannot see past the lies of Feminism ... She's lost. Let her go and better yourself. It's not worth investing time and effort trying to help victims who don't want to be helped. Once she's seen the truth and become a survivor of Feminism ... She can be helped. But it's up to her to choose that path.

DefNotForPornAccount · 2020-09-29T07:14:18+00:00

Maybe the fact that you came to Reddit for this instead of doing some actual research about the wage gap should tell you something. Don’t follow these other guys down this path of mysogyny. I hope you listen to your teachers lesson and don’t stew on what you want to say the whole time.

Title	My teacher believes in the wage gap.
Author	AmIRightOrLeft
Upvotes	1604
Comments	362
Date	September 28, 2020 6:29 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/j1hq04/my_teacher_believes_in_the_wage_gap/
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