"Do the right thing!"

poooooong · 2014-05-09T00:11:28+00:00

On a good note, I've discovered recently that a lot of females and feminists are not even aware of this.

They always say "the draft is not an issue! when's the last time someone was drafted??"

A lot of them honestly don't know that men in the US have to sign up for the selective service at 18. Sometimes once you explain this, they change their tune regarding this issue.

DiscoPandaKungFu · 2014-05-09T00:15:32+00:00

Ah, good ol' Murica. Move to Canada to avoid selective service?

DyJoGu · 2014-05-09T03:09:10+00:00

Male Privilege.

Watermelon_Salesman · 2014-05-08T23:46:34+00:00

This has always been the most blatant evidence of feminist hypocrisy. It is beyond my imagination how the hell women have been evading selective service and conscription for decades without being called cowards, and still the entire West abide by feminism.

DreadedKanuk · 2014-05-09T02:54:03+00:00

As a Canadian, this blew my mind. I thought this sort of thing stopped after WWII. Holy crap.

Savergn · 2014-05-08T23:15:25+00:00

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TheLiberatedMan · 2014-05-09T06:32:26+00:00

Feminists always screech that womyn were viewed as property back in the day, well, guess what? Men are viewed as property of the state TODAY!

There's no "my body, my choice". Shut the f*ck up and die for a country that doesn't give a shit about you is what we get.

RichardPerle · 2014-05-09T02:43:42+00:00

...and if you don't, we might put you in prison! Now doesn't doing the right thing feel good?

AaronUFOs · 2014-05-09T04:10:24+00:00

They put so many stars and arrows, making it seem so positive.

It's like "sign up to get your arm blown off TODAY!" :D

Mexatron · 2014-05-09T02:44:01+00:00

I'm kind of confused being Canadian and all.... but what is this?

Tarkusdillo · 2014-05-09T03:16:21+00:00

Males can not get state, federal or lottery monies for college if they can not prove that they have signed up.

This is part* of the reason females "do not know about this." It does not concern them. They get the monies.

MOTHERS allow this. Feminists allow this. And all the while telling you that we are equal. Why are they not fighting this tooth and nail? Because they are OK with this.

typo

I-M-Meen · 2014-05-08T23:33:32+00:00

"SACRIFICE YOUR PITIFUL, WORTHLESS MALE BODY FOR THE GLORY OF GYNARCHY, PEON!"

statist_steve · 2014-05-09T01:54:24+00:00

As someone new to Men's Rights, should a draft occur, and women could be drafted, how would cases such as pregnancy be handled?

Fallen_Glory · 2014-05-09T06:30:06+00:00

I mean, does this aggravate you because you may be forcefully drafted to the military or because women don't have to sign up for this?

In my opinion, while a draft is horrifying among the general population (hence, Vietnam) conscription isn't the worst thing in the world. 1 - 2 years of service isn't incredibly daunting, and once the idea has been integrated into society it becomes much more accepted. I live the UAE and they just made it a requirement for all young men to do a year (don't quote me on the exact number), which I think is great. Lots of these kids don't even speak arabic because their culture has become so overly westernized, and they've grown up in a huge boom stage of the countries' economy, leaving them a tad too entitled a lot of the time. What I'm saying is that it's not really that detrimental to society as a whole, and the long term benefits weigh out the short term costs a whole ton.

As for women not being forced to follow the same process, I do believe that is an issue. That's straight unfair and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of feminists (or just, citizens) protested the idea of the draft all together.

In all honesty though this won't become an issue unless the men are actually called to arms. Nobody will care outside of the men involved unless the government exercises their power. As it lays dormant no consequences great enough to spur the attention of the people is prevalent.

2014-05-09T08:38:06+00:00

Wait, undocumented immigrants have to register, too?

Isn't that gonna get them caught?

WozzadaWalrus · 2014-05-09T04:40:37+00:00

I think this is relevant.

In the 70's, there was a proposed amendment to the Constitution. It was the Equal Rights Amendment, and it was to women what the civil rights act of 1964 was to African Americans. It passed through congress but not the states. Ironically, one group on particular opposed it and led to it's downfall. Feminist groups. The amendment would have eliminated the male-only draft and made it harder for women to win custody in divorce cases, because of truly equal rights.

2014-05-09T03:05:08+00:00

Now they just automatically sign your ass up too.

phinullfermata · 2014-05-09T03:30:29+00:00

As a Canadian who just moved the the US on a temporary work permit, I was also registered when I got my driver's license in the state I moved to. I knew about this before moving here, but was surprised to be confronted with it, given I am neither a citizen or an immigrant.

scemcee · 2014-05-09T03:58:05+00:00

I can't believe I am 35 and this still surprises me. It just seems so obviously, blatantly sexist. I thought we allowed women in combat now? So we don't require them to sign up for the draft? I'm so confused. :s

BeholdTheHypnoToad · 2014-05-09T05:48:13+00:00

You're supposed to notify them every time you move? That's absurd. looks like i'm headed to the big house.

RavenMFD · 2014-05-09T07:26:06+00:00

European here... What the hell is that?

warspite88 · 2014-05-09T10:59:44+00:00

sign up men because nothing is more equal than sending you to fill body bags for a nation that has thrown you under the bus!!

MagicalPowerfulEvil · 2014-05-09T21:40:38+00:00

Oh yeah, the feminism on my facebook won't shut up about how unfair this is. LOL J/K

Can you imagine??

awwwwyehmutherfurk · 2014-05-09T03:07:21+00:00

Ah yes, conscription. Always been opposed to this, old people here in Australia often say that they should bring back national service and as someone who was in the Army and often contemplates returning to it I am fully against it. I don't consider it ethical or justifiable in the least. It says on that pamphlet that not registering may loose your entitlements to a large degree of social services - that pisses me off most of all. If a citizen looses access to those, then he shouldn't have to ever pay taxes. But no, I bet he'd still have to pay taxes throughout his life despite being denied the benefits he is paying for. It's disgraceful.

Hypersapien · 2014-05-09T04:39:46+00:00

Here's a question they didn't list. "Why does the law say I have to register?"

Also "Why don't women have to register?"

McFeely_Smackup · 2014-05-09T03:36:32+00:00

The most obvious element of female privilege in relation to the draft is they could be drafted and still not serve in combat...there's a large percentage of rear echelon support roles that could be filled by women. But we won't even do that to the precious little princesses.

hunthell · 2014-05-09T06:42:15+00:00

With the huge budget cuts and the largest manning cuts the military has ever seen, why is this even still a thing?

shibbidybibbidy · 2014-05-09T10:23:28+00:00

Didn't even know this existed until recently. Shocking to be honest

kadivs · 2014-05-09T10:28:40+00:00

Just wondering, why do they even have to do this? Wouldn't they have this info already from taxes or something?

Rootkit9208 · 2014-05-09T14:16:59+00:00

Good old selective services. The government mandate that practically Godwins its own discussions.

mvrk10256 · 2014-05-09T15:35:02+00:00

If you have a drivers liscence you are automatically regestered at the time. 18th Bday you get a new lic and boom, registered.

thisisnotatoaster · 2014-05-09T15:35:27+00:00

This is just wrong...it would be equal if either all of us had to or none of us had to.

Israel wised up to that, at least as far as equality goes. All citizens there are required to do military service for a certain time. Ideally, there should be no selective service, period.

That, and the fact that they are trying to represent the idea in a way where they maintain some false moral high ground is idiotic and insulting.

Sigbi · 2014-05-09T15:42:47+00:00

lmao. what idiot would actually sign up for this?

Pacokyle · 2014-05-09T15:51:19+00:00

On a side note, I'm not sure whether, if I just took a bullet through the leg, I would want to have to count on a female to fireman carry me to the nearest medic. But I guess equality of military fitness standards is a separate issue completely.

Bolmung_LK · 2014-05-15T16:57:39+00:00

As where I'm all for women being drafted just like men, it just makes less sense in some scenarios.

There is the irrefutable fact that if you drafted EVERYONE in that age range, reguardless of gender, then you have eliminated everyone in the most fertile reproductive period of their life.

Are we to leave the elderly in charge of the children? What if we went to war with say China or Russia and it took our entire nation's population of ages 18-40 (just an example of an all-out WWIII), that's literally everyone within child-bearing range.

I'd say instead of making the draft gender orientated, why not make it physically/mentally fit orientated? Imagine an 18 y/o girl with the physique of a 12 y/0 stick out there fighting? Or how about an 18 y/o 300lbs dude who can't reach down to grab his gun? Or an 18 y/o guy who can't even run 10 ft without his inhaler or lift something over 35 lbs?

Drafting based on gender is an outdated way of doing things. This should be changed already.

TL;DR Women planning on being mothers soon (not yet pregnant) and those who are unfit physically/mentally should be automatically excluded. The only reason I think women who are planning pregnancy should be excluded is because they shouldn't be out fighting with a baby in there, not because women should be pampered more.

Furthermore, the age range of 18 is way too low in my opinion. At 18 I would have run around with my head cut off or commit suicide immediately upon being informed I was drafted. I do not deserve the freedom I was given. I admit it. But that doesn't change the fact that the draft is entirely unfair as it stands. That athletic girl on track should get drafted INSTEAD OF the wimpy guy.

veyron1001 · 2014-05-09T12:31:42+00:00

What would be fighting for? It's not for freedom that's for sure.

Roddy0608 · 2014-05-09T07:43:59+00:00

I wouldn't do it. I'm just a pacifist.

Fhwqhgads · 2014-05-09T12:44:34+00:00

Yes, men. Do the right thing. Die for the womenfolk, the holiest of holies. They are vastly more valuable than your filthy worthless life. You should be eternally grateful to have such an honor bestowed upon you!

Lawtonfogle · 2014-05-09T15:15:15+00:00

Why not just push for a law that only those who are registered with selective services can vote. We don't discriminate based on gender, we are just saying that if you want a say in how the country runs, you gotta ensure some of your skin is in the game? I wonder what the response to that would be?

Title	"Do the right thing!"
Author	Savergn
Upvotes	496
Comments	277
Date	May 8, 2014 11:10 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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